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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2019, 04:30:04 AM »
In the Ar234 nighfighter (which flew one mission) they crammed the dumbass who volunteered to be the radar guy - and all his equipment - in the space behind the rear fuel tank (where the camera is shown in the line drawing).


Yeah, you can see here:




It would have been very cramped though.
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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #31 on: June 18, 2019, 11:08:08 PM »




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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2019, 01:39:16 AM »
AWACS with a punch! ;)

Neat! 8)
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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2019, 03:26:07 AM »
Given the Ruhrstahl/Kramer X-4 was wire guided I wonder if some sort of prop guard would be required?
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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2019, 05:13:02 AM »


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I wonder if some sort of prop guard would be required? 

Good point ???
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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2019, 06:28:54 AM »
Greeaat study of Ar-234  :smiley:

First thought is 1/48 built as 1/72 AWACS.  Pick a country and time period.

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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2019, 09:51:58 AM »
Given the Ruhrstahl/Kramer X-4 was wire guided I wonder if some sort of prop guard would be required?

After weapons testing with the X-4 wire-guided missile the Ar-234 was converted to pusher turboprops, which, coincidentally, led to the ability to carry a second pair of X-4's inboard of the engines & to the outer missiles being able to be brought closer in, thus reducing the loading on the outer wing sections! ;)
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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2019, 12:22:32 PM »
Given the Ruhrstahl/Kramer X-4 was wire guided I wonder if some sort of prop guard would be required?

After weapons testing with the X-4 wire-guided missile the Ar-234 was converted to pusher turboprops, which, coincidentally, led to the ability to carry a second pair of X-4's inboard of the engines & to the outer missiles being able to be brought closer in, thus reducing the loading on the outer wing sections! ;)
The engineer in me wonders if those would be gearbox driven propellers as on Allison's propfan design or exhaust-driven propellers like the aft fans on the CF700 and CJ805-23 or the aft propfans on GE's GE36 unducted fan engine.  Personally, I think the gearbox driven approach would be more feasible for the times.

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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2019, 07:23:06 PM »
It was just a design exercise as early turboprop engines would have had little advantage over internal combustion engines at the time ... with the added complications of un-reliability, complexity and high maintenance.

So, at a time when speed and firepower were critical in the defence of the Reich I give you ..... 













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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #39 on: Yesterday at 04:55:34 AM »
Given the Ruhrstahl/Kramer X-4 was wire guided I wonder if some sort of prop guard would be required?

After weapons testing with the X-4 wire-guided missile the Ar-234 was converted to pusher turboprops, which, coincidentally, led to the ability to carry a second pair of X-4's inboard of the engines & to the outer missiles being able to be brought closer in, thus reducing the loading on the outer wing sections! ;)
The engineer in me wonders if those would be gearbox driven propellers as on Allison's propfan design or exhaust-driven propellers like the aft fans on the CF700 and CJ805-23 or the aft propfans on GE's GE36 unducted fan engine.  Personally, I think the gearbox driven approach would be more feasible for the times.

The BMW concepts used a gearbox, the first design being a contra-prop with planetary gearing in a
ducted spinner, second contra-props with a long spinner, short annular intake and gear drive moved
aft to in front of the compressor.

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Re: Orchard Studios
« Reply #40 on: Today at 02:04:53 AM »
What's the source of those images Jon?
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