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Offline elmayerle

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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #300 on: April 07, 2019, 11:10:11 AM »
Odd thought for the A-4, reduce the leading edge sweep on the outboard portions of the wing (much as the Chinese did on later J-7/MiG-21 variants) and mount launchers for IRAAMs (Sidewinders or equivalent) on the wingtips, freeing up under-wing hard points for more offensive stores.

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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #301 on: April 07, 2019, 04:51:06 PM »
Speaking of twin engines:



It's a beautiful looking aircraft/model Greg!!😮
I'd be the first to admit, I do prefer an attack aircraft having two engines for redundancy.......and never thought of a Skyhawk being so equipped!!


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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #302 on: April 07, 2019, 09:55:18 PM »
Hmm! let me see now ---- there's a 1/100 scale A-10 available ----  hmm --- EDIT:  no maybe not --- I've got a 1/100 Global Express close by and I just did a comparison with the A-4 in my cabinet. I think that a 1/100 A-10 engines would be too big still. 1/144 though ----
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #303 on: April 07, 2019, 10:34:52 PM »
Engines off some biz jet might work. Maybe that Honda jet. Those engines are tiny.

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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #304 on: April 08, 2019, 02:27:17 AM »
Hmm! let me see now ---- there's a 1/100 scale A-10 available ----  hmm --- EDIT:  no maybe not --- I've got a 1/100 Global Express close by and I just did a comparison with the A-4 in my cabinet. I think that a 1/100 A-10 engines would be too big still. 1/144 though ----

Depending on which version of the Global Express was involved, a pair of nacelles/engines from a 1/100 one might be a close match for 1/48 F124s or RR Adours on a A-4.  Likewise, a 1/100 pair of TF-34s from an A-10 might also translate roughly into the right size to be 1/48 engines.
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #305 on: April 08, 2019, 02:28:31 AM »
Engines off some biz jet might work. Maybe that Honda jet. Those engines are tiny.

Yeah...tiny on thrust as well.
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #306 on: April 08, 2019, 03:16:27 AM »
Hmm! let me see now ---- there's a 1/100 scale A-10 available ----  hmm --- EDIT:  no maybe not --- I've got a 1/100 Global Express close by and I just did a comparison with the A-4 in my cabinet. I think that a 1/100 A-10 engines would be too big still. 1/144 though ----

Depending on which version of the Global Express was involved, a pair of nacelles/engines from a 1/100 one might be a close match for 1/48 F124s or RR Adours on a A-4.  Likewise, a 1/100 pair of TF-34s from an A-10 might also translate roughly into the right size to be 1/48 engines.

Not sure on which Global Express the model is based on, but it's a genuine Bombardier snap-together desktop kit. 
But all that nice info doesn't work for me though, I do 1/72 scale.  Mind you, the S-3 Viking had TF-34s too ----  ;)

I think a couple of nacelles from a 1/72 Hawker Domini might be better for a 1/72 kit bash.
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #307 on: April 11, 2019, 10:05:42 PM »
For twin engines without the rear CG issues, possibly a wing root twin layout like the Javelin or CF-100 Canuck?

A pair of PW-308s in the roots in big-ish nacelles with the jet pipe exiting just behind the trailing edge and the intake just ahead of the leading edge to alleviate any high AoA issues. High bypass may trade a titch of speed for a lot more range based on a lower cruise TSFC and using the central fuselage for new tankage. About 20% more thrust and the ability to curve the inlets to hide the fan face from radars (and also even out inlet flow) would also lower the RCS a modest amount.

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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #308 on: April 12, 2019, 03:00:32 AM »
Anti-shiiping Skyhawk......
Taking some of this, one could potentially have a scenario such as this based around a different A-4AR Fightinghawk......

Potential centreline hardpoint ordnance:
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #309 on: April 12, 2019, 04:08:36 AM »
Definitely.  Or the Hsiung Feng-3 if it will fit.
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #310 on: April 13, 2019, 03:45:27 AM »
Definitely.  Or the Hsiung Feng-3 if it will fit.

I'm a bit skeptical about the existence of an air-launched HF-3 paper project.  The HF-3 is nowhere near Moskit-level big but is still quite a bit bigger than the HF-2.

« Last Edit: April 13, 2019, 10:29:18 AM by dy031101 »
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #311 on: April 28, 2019, 08:59:02 PM »
Stumbled upon this page. The AQM-37 photo is from here on page 3.

The Airfix Tribute Forum:  Airfix 1/72 Douglas A4B/4P Skyhawk (A03029)

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/airfixtributeforum/airfix-1-72-douglas-a4b-4p-skyhawk-a03029-t47356.html?sid=21b9b0d4f2e48f1a6e4d20ff0324f7e6
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Re: Douglas A-4 Skyhawk Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #312 on: April 29, 2019, 06:29:04 PM »
That's my accuracy thread for the Airfix A-4B Skyhawk Big Gimper!!!!
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