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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #25 on: January 08, 2016, 05:06:20 AM »
The 'half a 251' is reminiscent of the RA Dragons from the '20s-'30s.  ;)



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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #26 on: January 08, 2016, 06:58:04 AM »
Steyr half-track below seems to be a private conversion - note the skis front & rear .... and the massive spuds on the track links !!

Opel Kapitan with crawler-tracks (NSU Kettenrad parts), 1942. This car was part of a project by the WaffenAMT to improve traction of light vehicles in sand & snow - it seems that during the war, Stock Motorpflug AG Berlin were building NSU Kettenrads for the army & took part in the project.  Stock made motorcycles in Berlin until 1932 & are still in business in Heidelberg, Germany.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #27 on: January 08, 2016, 09:37:45 PM »

One can get a number of kits/conversions for these:



You could, in theory, make any of these half tracks

http://www.americantracktruck.com/index.php?page=videos-pictures
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #28 on: January 19, 2016, 07:15:00 AM »
US Amphibious projects.


July 1942 'Pelican' project, 50' long, 400hp engine, water speed:8 mph, 20,000lbs (empty), 40,000lbs (loaded),
cargo space large enough to carry 6X6 truck. No full size built, but several scale models for tank tests.






May 1944 15 ton project, design and engineering by Sparkman & Stephens, Inc. 37,000 lbs (empty),
30,000lb payload. Continental R975 with Torqmatic transmission. Original design had five road-wheels
per side, later increased to six. 21" wide tracks as developed for T87 105mm howitzer motor carriage.
Front wheels were driven. Twp 28" diameter propellers for water propulsion. 30mph (land), 8mph (water).
Was to be designated T32.


Later revised arrangement with six roadwheels and rear hull profile modified to allow the vehicle to enter
an LST from the water.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2016, 09:16:52 AM »
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #30 on: January 20, 2016, 10:27:53 AM »
I just find the names of the Japanese APC & halftrack too amusing to take them seriously ...... Ho-Ki & Ho-Ha ...... Really? ;D
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2016, 07:03:11 PM »
I just find the names of the Japanese APC & halftrack too amusing to take them seriously ...... Ho-Ki & Ho-Ha ...... Really? ;D

I find this to topic be more Ho-Hum.  :o
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #32 on: January 20, 2016, 11:08:22 PM »
That's some really sharp line art.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #33 on: January 21, 2016, 01:34:44 AM »
That's some really sharp line art.

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From Tank Power 11: Japanese Armor Vol. 3, Andrzej M Tomczyk, AJ Press 2003
Drawings by Slawomir Zajaczkowski.
The drawing is 7 views of the Ha-ho in 1/35. Several photos of the vehcile are also included

The bok also covers the amphibiious tanks (experimental and production), amphibious tractors,
halftrack, full track APCs and utility tractors and engineering vehicles. Interesting and off the wall
stuff.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #34 on: March 05, 2016, 08:55:27 AM »
This just appeared on our newscast today

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2016, 02:43:40 AM »
Here's one for you:  1925 Alfa Romeo RM Winter Sports Half Track



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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2016, 02:44:12 AM »
Then there's this...


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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2016, 02:46:35 AM »
A couple more:




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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2016, 03:05:06 AM »
BTW, I think one of these:



Just screams to be given a half track conversion... ;)
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2016, 03:08:02 AM »
One more...

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2016, 02:24:07 PM »
Couple of pages about the Citroen half-tracks:

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille.html

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille-2.html





http://www.tbauto.org/cars/citroen_halftrack.htm

"In the 1920s and 1930s Andre Citroen put his marketing expertise to use by sponsoring expeditions meant to show off the marriage of his body design with Kegresse's track system, as well as to demonstrate the ability of a half-track to cross extremely inhospitable land.

The first expedition (1922-1923) involved 12 people crossing the Sahara Desert from Toggourt, Algeria, to Timbuktu, Mali. It was the first exploration of that desert by motorcar.

The second, also known as La Croisiere Noire, traversed Africa from north to south, beginning on October 28th, 1924, and ending on June 26th, 1925.

The third, and most famous expedition, known both as the Citroen-Haardt Expedition and La Croisiere Jaune, commenced on April 4th, 1931 in Beirut, Lebanon, and followed Marco Polo's Silk Road route to Beijing, while seven other half-tracks left the Yellow Sea City of Tianjin to meet them part-way. The expedition was covered by publications such as National Geographic. The half-tracks survived Russian bureaucracy, arrest, bandits, rebels, severe weather, and the death of Georges-Marie Haardt, who succumbed to pneumonia at the end of the journey, but finally arrived in Beijing on December 2, 1932."

There was also an attempted crossing of Canada in 1934, La Croisiere Blanche, that failed because of the weather.
http://citroen-c4-c6.forumgratuit.org/t19-la-croisiere-blanche-canada
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2016, 05:04:28 AM »
Here's an RAF David Brown tractor.





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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2016, 06:34:30 AM »
I thought of using a Steyr RSO as a post-war vehicle, maybe as a half-track. I assumed that there would be a large supply of partially wrecked trucks, tanks and tractors that could be combined into useful vehicles.
It turns out that the Germans did just that post-war, with the Waldschlepper 1500:





Achim Icke Klinger built one in 1/35 using an RSO kit:
http://home.arcor.de/waldschlepp/waldschlepp/index.htm


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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #43 on: March 08, 2016, 03:15:32 AM »




This one makes me think of doing a Beau Geste style armed French Foreign Legion Halftrack in North Africa - kind of an early version of the later LDG armed vehicles.
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #44 on: April 19, 2016, 05:13:59 AM »
Because US halftracks are eternal, like the DC-3. I can't wait for the 2100s, when US halftracks in South America have adaptive camouflage and mount rail guns.





These appear to be M5A1s, to me.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #45 on: April 21, 2016, 10:18:01 AM »
Nice find Logan  :)

If the Ejército de República Dominicana is still keen on halftracks, how about adapting the M3/M5 suspension to the domestic Dominican RM-79 APC?
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #46 on: April 21, 2016, 04:45:40 PM »
Because US halftracks are eternal, like the DC-3. I can't wait for the 2100s, when US halftracks in South America have adaptive camouflage and mount rail guns.
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That's some funny stuff right there!  ;D  ;D  ;D
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #47 on: April 21, 2016, 10:54:05 PM »
Dare I suggest a LAV-25 variant half-track? ???
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #48 on: April 21, 2016, 11:13:02 PM »
That looks great, apophenia! Almost like an M3/OT-810 hybrid.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #49 on: April 22, 2016, 02:11:11 AM »
Here is a photo showing a prototype of a tank destroyer based on the Halftrack that was armed with six 105mm Czekalski recoilless guns.



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