Author Topic: This build is to shut Scooterman up! A patrol bomber Spruce Goose. Sort of.....  (Read 15565 times)

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Pair of sea urchins in a speedo... that makes me cringe so hard...

The build itself looks ... challenging, but I get the impression the finished product is going to look great!
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The nose turret will make a fine addition!  :)
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I am amazed by your abilities to build in such a tiny scale.  No matter what the outcome of this project, you sir, have a gift for tarting up the tiny stuff. 
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What Jeffery said !!   :D

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Progress shots from yesterday:



The 1/144 Cobra Company resin ERCO nose ball turret in place. When the transparency is in place, you won't be able to see much of the opening behind it. Not sure where the gun barrels are from the original conversion kit, but those are easy crafted from styrene rod. You can see the flight deck is gonna need some work.



Side view of the ERCO turret. I may need to some touch up sanding work to improve the way the sidewalls fair into the rest of the fuselage. If I still have the motivation, I may add a spray guard below the nose turret.



Dry fit of all the major assemblies. It's always great to get this point in a build when you can start to flesh out what you've had visualized in your head. I may decide to stick with the tall single tail as opposed to kitbashing a twin tail assembly. While the Consolidated PB2Y Coronado had twin tails, the even larger Martin PB2M/JRM Mars had a single tail. I may go with some of the features of the Mars like adding smaller cantilevered struts off the floats. There'll be a radar in a "doghouse" fairing above the flight deck which should help camouflage the seam work I needed to do there. The Catalina waist blisters will go behind the wing (obviously) but now jugging what to do about the rest of the defensive armament. I was going to add the B-29's tail gun position under the vertical fin plus a dorsal turret from the Minicraft B-24 kit. The PB4Y Privateer in its later variants had two dorsal turrets, I thought about doing that as well.

I thought about adding a gun turret just aft of each inboard nacelle on the tops of the wing, but that may require more slinging of putty than I want to do as I'll need to a lot of work on the wing/fuselage junctions and possibly the tail gun position depending upon what I did there.

I was reading that the waist turrets on the Privateer when depressed fully downward converged on a point 30 feet below the aircraft which meant that the ventral ball turret could be dispensed with. I'll need to position the Catalina blisters to try and replicate the same effect.

Also now thinking about options for the weapons bay. I was originally going to build bomb bays into the wings, but then I thought with as large as the PBK-1 Tarpon is, I could do it Sunderland style with doors on the sides of the fuselage that open up to rails under the wings that torpedoes, bombs, and mines could be rolled out onto for dropping. I'll need to figure something out before I attach the wing assembly for good.

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So interesting to see how this coming together.  Much like I have in work converting Spruce Goose to 1/72.
Am doing same with a Lancaster turret mounted in nose and Catalina side blisters.
Been busy with Spring outdoor stuff.  Inspiring me to get back to building.
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Wow that nose turret looks great! Detail like that in 1/144 is amazing! Love the "money shot" of it all together too!

You've got me looking very much forward to your next installment, Mr Chicken!

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Wing turrets would be natural for this...perhaps a couple of the B-29 remote turrets?
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The 1/144 Cobra Company resin ERCO nose ball turret in place. When the transparency is in place, you won't be able to see much of the opening behind it. Not sure where the gun barrels are from the original conversion kit, but those are easy crafted from styrene rod. You can see the flight deck is gonna need some work.

Amazing amount of detail in that Cobra Company ERCO ball turret. 


Wing turrets would be natural for this...perhaps a couple of the B-29 remote turrets?

Mounted on top and underside of wing would be absolutely wicked in providing a strafing option with anywhere where from *eight to sixteen guns firing forward to service targets of opportunity. 

*If the aircraft is armed with two turrets on each wing containing four-machine guns or two-machine guns would give you eight to sixteen machine guns firing forward plus nose gun turret with two machine guns provides ten or eighteen machine guns.  With all weapons aimed at the same spot it would certainly shred anything in a matter of seconds. 
« Last Edit: May 30, 2012, 05:49:34 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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This is looking great! I wonder if the Minicraft kit is the same as this one. While not impossible, I find it unlikely that two companies would come up with a model of the same unusual aircraft in the same non-standard scale.

The step on the flight deck canopy is going to be fun! Fill in the gap or cut down the step? I guess it depends on which way the transparency fits best. Nice job on fairing in the nose turret!

Offline finsrin

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This is looking great! I wonder if the Minicraft kit is the same as this one. While not impossible, I find it unlikely that two companies would come up with a model of the same unusual aircraft in the same non-standard scale.

The step on the flight deck canopy is going to be fun! Fill in the gap or cut down the step? I guess it depends on which way the transparency fits best. Nice job on fairing in the nose turret!

Minicraft is same.  Same step on the flight deck canopy.  Every thing I see any where in pictures is identical.
Only construction techniques here are cleaner and more refined than mine.

Offline elmayerle

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Wing turrets would be natural for this...perhaps a couple of the B-29 remote turrets?
I'll second this suggestion, much like the remote-control ones on the Piaggio P.108 which worked well (the engines, well, that's another story).

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Time to work on the tail gun position. This is the first weekend of the summer for the kids, so after breakfast they all stampeded upstairs to play Xbox, leaving me a bit of undisturbed time to do some work on this kitbash. I used the tail gunner's position from the Minicraft B-29A kit. That kit's vertical fin sucks, so I'd never build the kit as a B-29 anyway so it's now a what-if parts donor as well. I cut away the aft fuselage and removed the vertical fin with a good old fashioned Dremel attack. I found that in 1/144 scale this part of the B-29's fuselage did fit quite nicely as a replacement for the Spruce Goose's tail cone. Fortunately I got the cuts right on the money which should help minimize the amount of putty-sand-repeat-putty-sand-repeat.

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Using a B-29 tailgun is absolutely inspired, Mr Chicken! It looks like it belongs there and those cuts are indeed excellent!

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Got a bit more time after the kids all went to bed to try and finish up the tail gunner's position on my kitbash. In this shot I've dry fitted the tail gunner's transparencies as well as the guns and gun fairing. What passes off as the twin guns in the Minicraft B-29A kit is a joke and a half, I'll probably just make some out of styrene rod which will look better. Sprayed the assembly with a light coat of gray to help visualize any spots that might need more putty-sand-repeat. I think I'm about done here, though.