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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => : AXOR September 13, 2012, 03:37:56 AM

: WHIF's found on internet
: AXOR September 13, 2012, 03:37:56 AM
I love this : link (http://partyzany.blogspot.ro/2012/08/nutcracker-maschinen-krieger-hasegawa.html)

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-58u96J-aPa8/UCA3nSQrD1I/AAAAAAAAAV8/eAzCQYTI4FE/s1600/P8060994.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1Twr7bbr29I/UCA32be-KYI/AAAAAAAAAWc/mRTeRqEm10Y/s1600/P8061016.jpg)



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: GTX_Admin September 13, 2012, 02:58:04 PM
 :)
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: Alvis 3.1 September 26, 2012, 12:24:08 PM
While killing a couple hours on AviationHumor.net I discovered this gem:
http://aviationhumor.net/canadian-f-18-sea-hornet/ (http://aviationhumor.net/canadian-f-18-sea-hornet/)

I've come full circle!

Alvis 3.1
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: apophenia September 27, 2012, 02:49:37 AM
And, of course, there's the two-seat Sea Hornet for retreiving the Minister of National Defence from his fishing trips.  >:D
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: Alvis 3.1 September 27, 2012, 11:30:27 PM
Oh wow, how did I miss that idea? That just screams to be done, and I DO have a surplus of F-18s.


Muh-wah-hahahahaha!


Alvis 3.1
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: finsrin September 28, 2012, 07:05:44 AM
Oh wow, how did I miss that idea? That just screams to be done, and I DO have a surplus of F-18s.


Muh-wah-hahahahaha!


Alvis 3.1

Oh Yea --- Way cool bash.  8)
You know: with intakes on top of wing to avoid water ingestion; same can be kit-bashed for F-117 and B-2 in Navy colors/markings.
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: Daryl J. November 15, 2012, 02:58:52 AM
A Fw-190 as seen by my former IPMS Club's new president, Chris Binnett

http://conceptvehicles.blogspot.com/2012/11/railbike-vehicle-model-by-chris-binnett.html (http://conceptvehicles.blogspot.com/2012/11/railbike-vehicle-model-by-chris-binnett.html)

(http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptvehicles/2012/strangeworld/strangeworld_01.jpg)
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: Jeffry Fontaine November 15, 2012, 03:24:09 AM
A Fw-190 as seen by my former IPMS Club's new president, Chris Binnett

[url]http://conceptvehicles.blogspot.com/2012/11/railbike-vehicle-model-by-chris-binnett.html[/url] ([url]http://conceptvehicles.blogspot.com/2012/11/railbike-vehicle-model-by-chris-binnett.html[/url])

([url]http://www.igorstshirts.com/blog/conceptvehicles/2012/strangeworld/strangeworld_01.jpg[/url])


That is without a doubt the best Fw-190 I have ever seen ;)

Interesting arrangement for the operator, like the little elbow pads, a very nice touch on the details. 
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: Jeffry Fontaine November 15, 2012, 10:07:00 AM
(http://i127.photobucket.com/albums/p160/szaloga/T28b.jpg) (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1352936385/M28A1+McNair+Assault+Tank)

Click on image or html to view original article at Missing Lynx

DML 1/35th scale M28A1 McNair Assault Tank built by Steve Zaloga as a WHIF (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47208/thread/1352936385/M28A1+McNair+Assault+Tank)
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: Jeffry Fontaine December 01, 2012, 10:57:16 AM
For you Luft'46 fans this link will be a real kick in the pants: ------> http://www.txsquadron.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1658.0 (http://www.txsquadron.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1658.0)

There is one image that I will describe as the "Mother of all Mistels" that is about half-way down the page.  You will know it when you see it.  :)
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: finsrin December 01, 2012, 11:29:40 AM
For you Luft'46 fans this link will be a real kick in the pants: ------> [url]http://www.txsquadron.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1658.0[/url] ([url]http://www.txsquadron.com/forum/index.php?action=printpage;topic=1658.0[/url])

There is one image that I will describe as the "Mother of all Mistels" that is about half-way down the page.  You will know it when you see it.  :)


Right: "Mother of all Mistels" it is.
Love the art work.  So many kitbash concepts.  If only I could build faster.
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: GTX_Admin December 02, 2012, 03:08:56 AM
There are some classics on that page. :)
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: Jeffry Fontaine December 03, 2012, 02:42:29 AM
His screen name at Flikr is dizzyfugu and he has some really nice models in his image gallery.  The one that caught my attention first is his 1:72 Italeri - MiG-37Sh ‘бе́лая сова́’/ ‘Snowy owl’ (Ferret G); Russian Air Force "305 Grey"; 970th IISAP, Lipetsk, 2001 (Whif/kit conversion) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/?reg=1). 

Click on html or thumbnail image to access dizzyfugu's flikr page and his image gallery.  Enjoy! 

(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8342/8222242626_f15dfd438d_m.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/?reg=1)


His MiG-37 includes a series of images showing the finished model along with a back story/alternate history and build history on the kit.  This is the same guy that was making an aircraft model display base using hexagonal tiles.  Yes, invitation sent.  Had to create a flikr account in order to contact him but it is part of Yahoo so it was easy enough to do since I have a Yahoo eMail address.  Now to hurry up and wait for a reply or see if he joins our rebellious little group. 
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: kitnut617 December 03, 2012, 03:09:19 AM
dizzyfugu is also a regular on the What-If Forum.  Some of his stuff is really interesting.
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: The Big Gimper December 03, 2012, 09:38:45 AM
This is one of my favorites from Dizzy:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7172443585/# (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7172443585/#)
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: GTX_Admin December 03, 2012, 07:16:09 PM
dizzyfugu is also a regular on the What-If Forum.  Some of his stuff is really interesting.

Someone should invite him here as well.
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: Jeffry Fontaine December 04, 2012, 06:41:14 AM
dizzyfugu is also a regular on the What-If Forum.  Some of his stuff is really interesting.
Someone should invite him here as well.

Sent message to him via flikr.com and did that.  But it won't hurt to follow up with an eMail from one of the other members here that has access to his eMail address over at what if modelers forum or any of the other forums where you know that he is an active member. 
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: Frank3k December 27, 2012, 02:56:40 AM
Adam Rehorn's EP-6D Seamaster. (http://adamrehorn.wordpress.com/model-kits/planes/box-scale-ep-6d-seamaster/) Great Whif of a dog of a kit!
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: Jeffry Fontaine December 27, 2012, 03:55:38 AM
Adam Rehorn's EP-6D Seamaster. ([url]http://adamrehorn.wordpress.com/model-kits/planes/box-scale-ep-6d-seamaster/[/url]) Great Whif of a dog of a kit!


His improvements to that old Revell kit are quite impressive.  Back story was entertaining as well.
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: ChernayaAkula December 27, 2012, 05:38:43 AM
Really nice indeed!  :) The Seamaster is one I wouldn't mind to see repopped in Revell's "Classics" line.  :D
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: Jeffry Fontaine January 08, 2013, 02:52:57 AM
1:48th scale JF-17 Thunder What If in Russian Service built by Phil Goodier (aka on ARC as Phillmodeler) (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/181056028922?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649)
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: GTX_Admin January 08, 2013, 03:24:03 AM
Both those latest are outstanding.
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: Jeffry Fontaine January 08, 2013, 05:11:00 AM
Found on the what's new page at Modellversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/) this afternoon:

1:48th scale what if Mikoyan MiG-28 Hawk built by Florentin Manea (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/10227-mikoyan-mig-28-hawk-verschiedene-hersteller.html)

Click on html or thumbnail image to view.

(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/2/2/7/10227-tumb.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/10227-mikoyan-mig-28-hawk-verschiedene-hersteller.html)

***update with some additional details.  Herr Florentin used parts from an Airfix Hawk and the Italeri (old ESCI mold) MiG-27 to create his MiG-28.  A nice combination of the parts and that Hawk windscreen/canopy looks a lot better than the original two-seat MiG.
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: GTX_Admin January 08, 2013, 05:56:47 AM
Interesting
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: ChernayaAkula January 08, 2013, 10:20:14 AM
Ooooh, that Russian JF-17 is niiiiiice!  :-*
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: Daryl J. February 15, 2013, 01:47:04 AM
I'm no fan of the JF-17 but that one is great! 

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: Jeffry Fontaine March 08, 2013, 06:15:30 AM
1:72nd scale Anigrand Craftswork Firefox and "Mother One" built by Chuck Holte (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/ani/build_ani_6014.shtml#.UTkQcjdW-Vo)

Click on html or thumbnail image to view. 

(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/ani/images/ani_6014_titletn.jpg) (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/ani/build_ani_6014.shtml#.UTkQcjdW-Vo)
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: The Big Gimper March 27, 2013, 06:24:16 PM
DHC-4 Cari-bou-bou?

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/kevincallahan/2007%20IPMS%20Seattle%20Spring%20Show/940.jpg)

He-280 Pulse Jet

(http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/kevincallahan/2007%20IPMS%20Seattle%20Spring%20Show/954.jpg)

URL: 2007 IPMS-Seattle Spring Show (http://z15.invisionfree.com/72nd_Aircraft/index.php?showtopic=754)
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: GTX_Admin March 28, 2013, 02:01:34 AM
DHC-4 Cari-bou-bou?

([url]http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/kevincallahan/2007%20IPMS%20Seattle%20Spring%20Show/940.jpg[/url])



Looks like the original design.  I have thought of doing that too.
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: Frank3k March 28, 2013, 03:58:55 AM
This is from one of our own: Hamza's (Lisppisch) Deviant Art page (http://hamzalippisch.deviantart.com/)

I have the Unicraft version of this:

(http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/075/a/5/golovin_ivs___isf_massive_launch_by_hamzalippisch-d5y7826.jpg)
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: jcf March 28, 2013, 04:51:58 AM
DHC-4 Cari-bou-bou?


Looks like the original design.  I have thought of doing that too.

Yep, done by Seattle modeller and Canadian ex-pat Morgan Girling.
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: Jeffry Fontaine April 02, 2013, 04:55:18 AM
An interesting what-if/April Fool's model of the Tracked Vehicle Land Speed Record Holder based on a Sherman tank.  The Sher-Moon built by Mark Neville (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1364754304/The+Sher-moon+saltshaker)

Click on image or html to view additional images at Missing-Lynx forums. 

(http://i857.photobucket.com/albums/ab136/Derhetzer/shermoon6_zps01605602.jpg) (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1364754304/The+Sher-moon+saltshaker)
(Image source: Mark Neville/Missing-Lynx Forums (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1364754304/The+Sher-moon+saltshaker))
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: ChernayaAkula April 03, 2013, 01:51:19 AM
Wicked!  ;D


Sherman racing tank - tearing up the Bonneville Flats!  :) Literally!  ;D
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: Weaver April 03, 2013, 05:13:53 AM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....
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: Jeffry Fontaine April 03, 2013, 05:25:08 AM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....

Apparently the Scorpion holds the land speed record for tracked vehicles in real life :)
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: Daryl J. April 03, 2013, 05:42:27 AM
Oh that's a crack up! 
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: Weaver April 03, 2013, 05:49:20 AM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....

Apparently the Scorpion holds the land speed record for tracked vehicles in real life :)

Exactly, but the vehicle in question is still in full military trim because the company that did the speed record are in the business of selling Scorpion upgrades. Can you imagine how quick it would be if you could strip it down and tune it up to a pure "dragster" as per the Moon Sherman?

I've been looking at the AFV Club Scorpion: it's perfect for this because the engine cover is separate and all the military fittings you'd want to lose are separate. It doesn't have an engine, but I'd imagine you could scaleorama a suitable 1/24th car engine.

Exactly what you'd do to it would depend on what rules you invented for it to meet. Mark Neville didn't go into detail in his Moon Sherman, but from what I can see:

Remove all hatches, periscopes and external stowage boxes.

Remove the night sight (box next to gun barrel) and plate over the hole (you can see this on some real Scorpions, particularly prototypes).

Fit a small screen in front of the driver's station.

Fit the upgradeed engine with no hatches and it's supercharger scoop protruding above the deck level.

Remove the exhaust and replace with a small, oversized stub (chromed, of course... )
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: Jeffry Fontaine April 03, 2013, 05:53:31 AM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....
Apparently the Scorpion holds the land speed record for tracked vehicles in real life :)
Exactly, but the vehicle in question is still in full military trim because the company that did the speed record are in the business of selling Scorpion upgrades. Can you imagine how quick it would be if you could strip it down and tune it up to a pure "dragster" as per the Moon Sherman?

I've been looking at the AFV Club Scorpion: it's perfect for this because the engine cover is separate and all the military fittings you'd want to lose are separate. It doesn't have an engine, but I'd imagine you could scaleorama a suitable 1/24th car engine.

Exactly what you'd do to it would depend on what rules you invented for it to meet. Mark Neville didn't go into detail in his Moon Sherman, but from what I can see:

Remove all hatches, periscopes and external stowage boxes.

Remove the night sight (box next to gun barrel) and plate over the hole (you can see this on some real Scorpions, particularly prototypes).

Fit a small screen in front of the driver's station.

Fit the upgradeed engine with no hatches and it's supercharger scoop protruding above the deck level.

Remove the exhaust and replace with a small, oversized stub (chromed, of course... )


Better yet, remove the turret and place your engine in that location.  Keep the driver where he is and use the previous engine location for the fuel supply.  Might need to add something at the back to keep it from dancing on its tracks as it accelerates :) 

The U.S. Army apparently modified an M113 with a pair of Chrysler V8 engines (http://www.jedsite.info/fulltrack-mike/mike-number-us/m113_series/hotrod/hotrod.html) and placed both in the troop compartment with a modified power train to connect to the transmission/cross drive at the front.  Rear ramp was removed and replaced with a large metal grate for ventilation and a small roll bar was featured on the roof of the vehicle behind the drivers hatch.  I have no idea if this was an actual attempt at a land speed record or just an engineering test vehicle but the idea of a high speed tracked vehicle is a bit scary considering the stability issues of something like an M113 with a high center of gravity it would certainly require a spatula to remove the driver from his seat after a speed run.
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: jcf April 03, 2013, 05:54:08 AM
 Amusing Sher-Moon, but, El Mirage and Bonneville are two different places, the former being in California, the latter in Utah. While both are dry lake beds, El Mirage isn't salt.

As to speed records, Christie claimed 60 mph on tracks, 120 on wheels for his Model 1932.  ;)

If one was to try and actually build a drag or LSR tank, you'd probably need to use a longitudinally
ribbed, continuous band track like that used in the B-50 and XB-36 tracked landing gear experiments.
(http://aerofiles.com/B50-trackgear.jpg)
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: kitnut617 April 03, 2013, 08:20:34 AM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....

Apparently the Scorpion holds the land speed record for tracked vehicles in real life :)

Exactly, but the vehicle in question is still in full military trim because the company that did the speed record are in the business of selling Scorpion upgrades. Can you imagine how quick it would be if you could strip it down and tune it up to a pure "dragster" as per the Moon Sherman?

I've been looking at the AFV Club Scorpion: it's perfect for this because the engine cover is separate and all the military fittings you'd want to lose are separate. It doesn't have an engine, but I'd imagine you could scaleorama a suitable 1/24th car engine.

Exactly what you'd do to it would depend on what rules you invented for it to meet. Mark Neville didn't go into detail in his Moon Sherman, but from what I can see:

Remove all hatches, periscopes and external stowage boxes.

Remove the night sight (box next to gun barrel) and plate over the hole (you can see this on some real Scorpions, particularly prototypes).

Fit a small screen in front of the driver's station.

Fit the upgradeed engine with no hatches and it's supercharger scoop protruding above the deck level.

Remove the exhaust and replace with a small, oversized stub (chromed, of course... )

My wife's dad was in the REME and for a while on the 'Heavy Recovery Team'.  They were called out one day to go to a wreck (Army) which happened to be a Scorpion.  He told me the Scorpion had been on a high speed run down some highway (they figured it was doing over 90 mph) when it shed it's tracks, the tank then barrelled along on it's idlers for quite a way with no way to stop, running over a few cars that were around until it hit a bridge abuttment.  They then had to clear up the mess ----

Afterwards the father-in-law said, they fitted a governer into the transmission to restrict just how fast they could travel at ---
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: Weaver April 03, 2013, 07:35:21 PM
Heh - someone should do a souped-up Scorpion along those lines: great big supercharger scoop sticking up through the engine deck....
Apparently the Scorpion holds the land speed record for tracked vehicles in real life :)
Exactly, but the vehicle in question is still in full military trim because the company that did the speed record are in the business of selling Scorpion upgrades. Can you imagine how quick it would be if you could strip it down and tune it up to a pure "dragster" as per the Moon Sherman?

I've been looking at the AFV Club Scorpion: it's perfect for this because the engine cover is separate and all the military fittings you'd want to lose are separate. It doesn't have an engine, but I'd imagine you could scaleorama a suitable 1/24th car engine.

Exactly what you'd do to it would depend on what rules you invented for it to meet. Mark Neville didn't go into detail in his Moon Sherman, but from what I can see:

Remove all hatches, periscopes and external stowage boxes.

Remove the night sight (box next to gun barrel) and plate over the hole (you can see this on some real Scorpions, particularly prototypes).

Fit a small screen in front of the driver's station.

Fit the upgradeed engine with no hatches and it's supercharger scoop protruding above the deck level.

Remove the exhaust and replace with a small, oversized stub (chromed, of course... )

Better yet, remove the turret and place your engine in that location.  Keep the driver where he is and use the previous engine location for the fuel supply.  Might need to add something at the back to keep it from dancing on its tracks as it accelerates :) 


I got the impression from Mark Neville's write up that his tank-racing "formulas" included a category for "turreted", implying that the turret needs to be left on to qualify, which is why I left it on. However, if you just wanted a fast tracked vehicle, then yes, a turretless Scorpion would go like the proverbial waste product from a mechanical digging implement...

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: AGRA April 04, 2013, 08:30:16 PM
A real life whiff kit bash:

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a150/deattilio/Amtracs/Barstow/IMG_2713.jpg)
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: GTX_Admin April 05, 2013, 02:02:07 AM
What the... :icon_surprised:
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: deathjester April 05, 2013, 04:45:20 AM
What the... :icon_surprised:
My first reaction too !!
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: AGRA April 05, 2013, 08:22:49 AM
The photo is from the Marine Corps vehicle dump at Barstow. Looks like a tank destroyer version of the LVTP5. Which would make a great whiff for a tank. Cut down the LVTP hull like in here and add the turret from a M60A2. The Navy wanted to use the 152mm gun-missile launcher for ship to ship (or boat to boat) actions so you would have a sea going, land going fighting machine.
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: father ennis April 05, 2013, 02:18:11 PM
Speaking of racing tanks, I remember there used to be a fellow who raced a "show car" As a special performance at the drag strips it would do a quarter mile !!!  I remember the chassis was from a Stewart light tank. I can't remember what kind of car body was on it,though. 
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: Daryl J. April 06, 2013, 11:20:45 PM
http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234937581-english-electric-p10-sr2/ (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234937581-english-electric-p10-sr2/)
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: GTX_Admin April 14, 2013, 02:27:09 AM
An outstanding...and dare I say, amusing build (click on image to see more including a full build description):

(https://images-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com/gadgets/proxy?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-Bvhdx58eVjY%2FUWlo1y33V9I%2FAAAAAAAAf3Q%2FNR10GA9CG6A%2Fs1600%2FEduard%2BBunny%2Bfighter%2Bclub%2BMig%2B21%2B(2).jpg&container=blogger&gadget=a&rewriteMime=image%2F*) (http://www.themodellingnews.com/2013/04/eduard-148-mig-21mf-bunny-fighter-club.html#more)
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: Daryl J. April 14, 2013, 02:37:57 AM
 ;D :) ;D
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: GTX_Admin May 12, 2013, 06:21:58 AM
Some nice Fokkers:

(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67584&stc=1&d=1339867195)
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67588&stc=1&d=1339871956)
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67590&stc=1&d=1339874821)
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67594&stc=1&d=1339877377)
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67608&stc=1&d=1339885506)
(http://www.sim-outhouse.com/sohforums/attachment.php?attachmentid=67612&stc=1&d=1339901535)
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: Jeffry Fontaine May 24, 2013, 01:16:41 AM
Anigrand Resin 1:72nd scale 'MiG-31 Firefox' in Syrian Air Force Markings built by Peter Burstow (http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/misc/scifi/sf/burstffox.htm) at Modeling Madness

Click on html or image to view.

(http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/misc/scifi/sf/burstffoxd.jpg) (http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/misc/scifi/sf/burstffox.htm)
(Image source: Peter Burstow via Modeling Madness (http://www.modelingmadness.com/))
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: GTX_Admin May 24, 2013, 02:26:08 AM
 :)
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: perttime June 04, 2013, 01:55:09 AM
A German forum had (has?) a Battlestar Galactica Viper group build.
My favorite is Dizzyfugu's "18 Yellow", personal mount of Cdr. Fred Gosebrink

(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2874/8902451115_71b277e698_z.jpg)

more, including build photos:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/sets/72157633463085087/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/sets/72157633463085087/)

Other entries can be found at:
http://www.phoxim.de/forum/index.php?board=111.0 (http://www.phoxim.de/forum/index.php?board=111.0)
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: GTX_Admin June 04, 2013, 02:11:40 AM
Wow!!!
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: perttime June 04, 2013, 03:20:15 AM
Dizzyfugu definitely can make a model ... and he is pretty decent at presenting one too  :D
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: perttime June 07, 2013, 12:46:27 AM
Speaking of Dizzyfugu... Have you already seen his Grumman Sabrecat Mk.II?

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5458/8967190954_3549e09323_c.jpg)
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37198.0/topicseen.html (http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37198.0/topicseen.html)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 07, 2013, 02:50:21 AM
That makes a nice companion to the Sabrecat in the banner of this forum.

Someone should invite him here... >:(
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime June 07, 2013, 03:29:29 AM
Ahh, that's what it is in the banner. I was trying to find it but didn't know what to look for.
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=55.msg289#msg289 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=55.msg289#msg289)

http://s253.photobucket.com/user/sotoolslinger/library/GTX24?sort=3&page=1 (http://s253.photobucket.com/user/sotoolslinger/library/GTX24?sort=3&page=1)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 07, 2013, 03:35:16 AM
Now you know. ;)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Goonie June 17, 2013, 01:59:07 AM
Yesterday I have found something interesting on one of the Polish forums.

link to the topic: http://www.modelwork.pl/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=35600 (http://www.modelwork.pl/viewtopic.php?f=68&t=35600)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 17, 2013, 02:34:51 AM
Nice.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime June 20, 2013, 03:55:01 AM
Browsing deviantart for "seafire"...

A weird Seafire 47:

(http://fc01.deviantart.net/fs24/i/2008/004/c/3/Seafire_by_GKamui.jpg)
http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Seafire-73248763 (http://browse.deviantart.com/art/Seafire-73248763)

and a Spacefire:

(http://th00.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2011/142/9/7/battle_above_the_clouds_by_0greyfox0-d3gxxcv.jpg)
http://0greyfox0.deviantart.com/art/Battle-above-the-Clouds-209855263 (http://0greyfox0.deviantart.com/art/Battle-above-the-Clouds-209855263)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper June 23, 2013, 04:57:09 AM
Found this website while looking at images the XP-4x series of US fighters:

JP’s Panzers Wargame & History Forums - Thought experiment - National Re-armament Program (http://panzercentral.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93&t=45983&start=0&sid=4a9e3034e593ccdf688f409cb30ca262#p650418)

A few examples:

(http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/janissarius/World%20War%20II/Alt-Equip/Britain/WindsorCarrier.jpg)

(http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/janissarius/World%20War%20II/Alt-Equip/Britain/Matilda.png)

(http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/janissarius/World%20War%20II/Alt-Equip/USA/Bell-XP-45.jpg)

(http://i373.photobucket.com/albums/oo172/janissarius/World%20War%20II/Alt-Equip/Portugal/He-117M.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 23, 2013, 04:59:34 AM
Cool.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: elmayerle July 01, 2013, 10:28:45 AM
Found on an artistic site (for those of  you with an aversion, yes, it's a "furry" site, be warned):
(http://d.facdn.net/art/baroncoon/1372622471.baroncoon_parosal_fighter_concept.jpg)

The original write-up is here: http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10968499/#cid:71357370 (http://www.furaffinity.net/view/10968499/#cid:71357370)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine July 12, 2013, 04:44:23 PM
What do you get when you kit bash a 1:72nd scale P-51D Mustang with a 1:/72 Alpha Jet?  Click on html or thumbnail to find out. 

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12301-12400/gal12381-X51-Narin/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12301-12400/gal12381-X51-Narin/00.shtm)

This interesting combination of parts comes together to be known as the X51-T Alphabrid, built by Narin and can be found at ARC (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12301-12400/gal12381-X51-Narin/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin July 13, 2013, 03:37:49 AM
Nice.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine July 16, 2013, 02:49:53 AM
Lockheed Superstarfighter WHIF built by Kees Kuyper (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12403-Superstarfighter-Kuyper/00.shtm)

Click on html or thumbnail image to view additional images and description. 

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12403-Superstarfighter-Kuyper/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12403-Superstarfighter-Kuyper/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin July 16, 2013, 03:13:36 AM
Nice
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver August 09, 2013, 10:42:23 AM
Fantastic spoof box art here from Francisco Ruiz Velasco:


(http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g10/201910/201910_1296021487_large.jpg)

(http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g10/201910/201910_1296021632_large.jpg)

(http://features.cgsociety.org/newgallerycrits/g10/201910/201910_1296021759_large.jpg)
 

Found these here : http://chocobananas.cgsociety.org/gallery/952349/ (http://chocobananas.cgsociety.org/gallery/952349/) Check out his impressive CV...

This is his blog : http://fruiz-fruiz.blogspot.co.uk/ (http://fruiz-fruiz.blogspot.co.uk/)

What can you say except Top Banana!   :) :-* 8)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 09, 2013, 10:44:54 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime August 12, 2013, 09:29:01 PM
Seen on whatif:

slava_trudu's "Gustloffwerke, 1946"

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1096998_568506459878050_1029304594_o.jpg)

More pics on his FB-page: https://www.facebook.com/slava.trudu/media_set?set=a.544454412283255.1073741881.100001561035760&type=1 (https://www.facebook.com/slava.trudu/media_set?set=a.544454412283255.1073741881.100001561035760&type=1)
or Flickr set: http://www.flickr.com/photos/slava_trudu/sets/72157633952503684/ (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slava_trudu/sets/72157633952503684/)

edit: and the Blohm und Voss BV P.208

(http://karopka.ru/upload/85d/photo_3_1375907497.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 13, 2013, 02:25:17 AM
Wow!!!  Someone should invite him here.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine August 14, 2013, 05:34:50 AM
From ARC:  A very serious looking kit bash by Narin called the MF 08 (Modified Project Number Eight) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12455-MF08-Narin/00.shtm)

Click on thumbnail image or html to view the description and additional images.

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12455-MF08-Narin/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12401-12500/gal12455-MF08-Narin/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper August 27, 2013, 06:26:02 AM
From Hyperscale:

Testor's 1/72 scale XR-7 Thunder Dart (http://www.hyperscale.com/2013/galleries/xr772pd_1.htm)

(http://www.hyperscale.com/images/xr772pd_1.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: arkon August 28, 2013, 11:07:12 AM
^ looks like the "hydro applied paint style" where they float the paint ontop of water then submerge the item to be painted. very cool.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Frank3k August 28, 2013, 11:23:30 AM
^ looks like the "hydro applied paint style" where they float the paint ontop of water then submerge the item to be painted. very cool.

Unfortunately, it only works with enamels. Most acrylics are denser than water (they won't dissolve that quickly). Metalizer (at least Testors) won't work, either. Maybe acrylics floating on glycerin... hmmm... must go back to the lab...
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin August 28, 2013, 01:49:35 PM
^ looks like the "hydro applied paint style" where they float the paint ontop of water then submerge the item to be painted. very cool.

Unfortunately, it only works with enamels. Most acrylics are denser than water (they won't dissolve that quickly). Metalizer (at least Testors) won't work, either. Maybe acrylics floating on glycerin... hmmm... must go back to the lab...

That is something I want to try.  Its the oil floats on water principle.  Have a few containers with sealing lids for reuse.  Each with a different paint color.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 August 28, 2013, 08:45:42 PM
Hmm! I think it looks like a map ----  ???
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime August 29, 2013, 02:01:46 AM
Westland Whynotte

A Queen's Cup Racer built from the remains of a Westland Whirlwind. It seems that the blokes hadn't noticed all the small print in the race rules, which led to its disqulification: the aircraft had to be able to taxi to the start line unassisted...

It is presumed that this wonderful machine, robbed of its chance for glory by a mere technicality, was broken up for scrap.

Found on a site for flying models: http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=13056.0 (http://www.hippocketaeronautics.com/hpa_forum/index.php?topic=13056.0)
Originally published in a "Flying Aces Club" newsletter.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat August 29, 2013, 09:58:27 AM
The Westland Whynotte II would be an interesting build, with wing-tip balancing wheels on fold-back struts or the same mid-wing, between the flaps & the ailerons. Hmm! ::)

:)

Guy
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick August 31, 2013, 09:02:03 AM
^ looks like the "hydro applied paint style" where they float the paint ontop of water then submerge the item to be painted. very cool.

Unfortunately, it only works with enamels. Most acrylics are denser than water (they won't dissolve that quickly). Metalizer (at least Testors) won't work, either. Maybe acrylics floating on glycerin... hmmm... must go back to the lab...

That is something I want to try.  Its the oil floats on water principle.  Have a few containers with sealing lids for reuse.  Each with a different paint color.
I have never seen a paint job like that before!
Would you do all the colors at the same time?
Seems like it might work better if the subject were submerged first, put the paint on the water and bring it up through the paint. I saw a video where a gunstock was given a camo paint job by putting it in the water then laying basicly a large decal on the surface of the water then bringing the gunstock up out of the water. The decal stuck to the gunstock and wrapped around all the curved surfaces.
Something really worth trying.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine September 12, 2013, 01:09:49 AM
Lockheed CL-282B What If built by Thomas Brückelt (1:72 Eigenbau) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/10724-lockheed-cl-282b-eigenbau.html) shared on the front page at modellversium.de.

Click on thumbnail or html to view.

(http://a.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/7/2/4/10724-tumb.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/10724-lockheed-cl-282b-eigenbau.html)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime September 18, 2013, 11:56:00 PM
(http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2013/261/5/0/lekolahto_by_maketsu-d6ms4jd.jpg)

http://maketsu.deviantart.com/art/Lekolahto-401060857 (http://maketsu.deviantart.com/art/Lekolahto-401060857)

This guy's drawing often tend towards the surreal....
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin September 22, 2013, 05:01:10 AM
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/gundamgunit/F-22N/DSCN8364_.jpg)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/gundamgunit/F-22N/DSCN8391_.jpg)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/gundamgunit/F-22N/DSCN8394_.jpg)
(http://i868.photobucket.com/albums/ab249/gundamgunit/F-22N/DSCN8401_.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine September 22, 2013, 05:19:34 AM
Absolutely wicked looking Raptor!  Any idea on who built it Greg? 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin September 22, 2013, 05:36:59 AM
Someone on ARC I believe but because their forum is still down I have been unable to get on to confirm and more importantly to invite the creator here.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Volkodav September 22, 2013, 07:56:17 PM
Wow...
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper September 22, 2013, 08:27:36 PM
Cue the sound of jaw hitting the floor.

LM, please take note of the NG Naval Stealth Strike Fighter. 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: dy031101 October 02, 2013, 06:01:45 AM
(http://i.imgur.com/NHYoNgy.jpg)

ARL-44...... from the presence of the white star insignia...... maybe Western Front '46?

Scroll down as needed here (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47210/thread/1357498174/WEEKLY+UPDATE++6.1.2013....) for the rest of the pics.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 02, 2013, 04:03:53 PM
Nice
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper October 04, 2013, 12:07:18 AM
I have some Rotodynes I need to WHIF. I like this one as it has the E-2C NP2000 props:

(http://i1045.photobucket.com/albums/b452/PaveShadow/2012%20onwards/DSCF0935.jpg)

Nice camo:

(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h94/XN923/Models/Rotodyne05small.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine October 19, 2013, 08:35:02 AM
There is a Sherman tank in there somewhere according to the description provided by the Nigel Rostance, the builder of this Martian Heavy Tank Herbert George (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/nr_072713_marsmech.html) in the recent Starship Modeler gallery update.  The engine deck and the VVSS suspension give it away but at first glance you could easily miss those key recognition features. 

Click on html or the thumbnail image to view the rest of Nigel's build. 

(http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/nr_072713_marsmech_h1.jpg) (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/nr_072713_marsmech.html)

Some of the other models in this gallery update at SSM:

1:4 Scale Spy Drone built by Jeff Semprebon (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/js_072913_helodrone.html)

NKL 26-inspired Kinder Sled built by Eric Marradi (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/em_040113_ski.html)


Link to SSM Gallery (http://www.starshipmodeler.com/gallery/gallery.cfm)

: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke November 01, 2013, 09:20:34 AM
Here's some for Tophe:

Fokker G.1 with Merlins
(http://www.luijken.com/images/inprogress/merlinG1.jpg)

Fokker G.1 with DB 601s
(http://www.luijken.com/images/inprogress/DB601G1.jpg)

Fokker D.XXI "twin"
(http://www.luijken.com/images/inprogress/DXXIZ3.jpg)

More of his work on www.luijken.com (http://www.luijken.com/)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Queeg November 01, 2013, 10:05:23 AM
That D.XXI twin is gorgeous !!!!  It'd look great in camo .......
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 November 01, 2013, 11:02:32 AM
Wow, those are gorgeous!
 :-*

Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Frank3k November 01, 2013, 12:25:14 PM
The G.1 with the DB 601s got me thinking - mate the fuselages from two cheap Me-109 kits with the center pod from an Airfix F-189 (or the BV-141) or even with either type of Dinah nose (stepped or smooth). It would make a pretty robust A/C compared to the 189. Something similar in concept to the Soviet Su-12 (but with inline instead of radial engines)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: elmayerle November 02, 2013, 01:37:40 AM
That gets me to thinking of a new center nacelle for the P-38 to make a more dedicated recce bird or a heavy fighter.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin November 02, 2013, 03:19:33 AM
I love the first Fokker G.1 with Merlins...hmmm, have a couple of Fokker G.1 kits + a Beaufighter Mk IIF conversion...I wonder, maybe a Fokker G.1 derived night fighter?
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: jschmus December 08, 2013, 11:08:13 AM
Turboprop COIN Mustang, from the Plastic Model Builders Group on Facebook
(https://scontent-b-iad.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/1451488_10201527646887285_1963863317_n.jpg)
And yes, I did send him an invite.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper December 29, 2013, 08:43:17 PM
While looking for Canberra / B-57 ideas, found this:

(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd288/deanflyer/merlinfinished1.jpg)

(http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd288/deanflyer/merlinfinished8.jpg)

Source is here (http://s3.zetaboards.com/locate_and_cement/topic/746170/1/).
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin December 30, 2013, 03:32:54 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Queeg December 30, 2013, 04:30:44 AM
Very  8)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Daryl J. December 30, 2013, 07:55:30 AM
 :) :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper January 03, 2014, 05:08:11 AM
Found this over at ARC:

1/72 Airfix Spitfire Turret fighter (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12736-Spitfire-Hoel/00.sht)

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12736-Spitfire-Hoel/01.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 03, 2014, 05:09:08 AM
Sweet!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Frank3k January 05, 2014, 12:03:36 AM
Found this:
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2374/1547715777_d9e6c737da.jpg)

More pictures here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpl3k/sets/72157602385172837 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpl3k/sets/72157602385172837)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine January 05, 2014, 02:51:50 AM
Found this:
([url]http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2374/1547715777_d9e6c737da.jpg[/url])

More pictures here: [url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpl3k/sets/72157602385172837[/url] ([url]http://www.flickr.com/photos/jpl3k/sets/72157602385172837[/url])


I recognize the main fuselage section of a P-61/F-61 Black Widow as the main body but the rest of it is a mystery.  The rock crawler and Jeep both look very good in the link provided. 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: arkon January 06, 2014, 12:14:06 PM
  the jeep looks good but the led lighting looks to bright for the diorama. nice touch with the little cars in background.  :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper January 18, 2014, 07:46:46 PM
Found this over at ARC.

S.H.I.E.L.D's OTHER Ride (http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12757-B-1-Harv/00.shtm)

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12757-B-1-Harv/01.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper January 24, 2014, 07:39:49 PM
I just got a Matchbox Lightning T55. Found this while researching what folks have done with this kit.

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal6/5701-5800/gal5713_Lightning_Mansfield/01.jpg)

Arc Silly Week 2007 - USAF T55 (http://www.arcair.com/Gal6/5701-5800/gal5713_Lightning_Mansfield/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat January 24, 2014, 08:29:42 PM
Nice Lightning! 8)

Arc call it "Silly Week", we call it "Business as Usual"! ;D

:icon_music:

Guy
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 January 25, 2014, 01:15:05 AM
I have to tell you, getting Silly Week going on ARC all those years ago was like pulling teeth. From a grumpy tiger. For years, we'd get people asking in the forum "How long is silly week going to be? (Usually by day 4) I'm getting tired of seeing such horrible things".

It only made me make more.
:)


Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 29, 2014, 06:41:48 AM
Click on pic for story

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12785-F-14-ONeal/01.jpg) (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12785-F-14-ONeal/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver January 31, 2014, 09:57:47 AM
Supersonic, vertical take-off electric fan business jet anybody?  ???

Patent filed, apparently:

http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbb&plckPostId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbbPost:99e3b9b2-44a5-4128-91ec-b67686c8e8cd (http://www.aviationweek.com/Blogs.aspx?plckBlogId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbb&plckPostId=Blog:7a78f54e-b3dd-4fa6-ae6e-dff2ffd7bdbbPost:99e3b9b2-44a5-4128-91ec-b67686c8e8cd)

(http://sitelife.aviationweek.com/ver1.0/Content/images/store/1/11/31b90e61-e19a-4c64-bb87-641a367b8a3d.Large.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine February 12, 2014, 04:11:18 PM
What-If "Ice Patrol" Vessel built by Christian Groth using the 1:288th scale Revell USCGC Burton Island (WAGB-283) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/11045-burton-island-revell.html). 

(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/0/4/5/11045-tumb.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/8-flugzeuge-modern/11045-burton-island-revell.html)

Pretty much out of the box with a different paint scheme. 



Wikipedia - USCGC Burton Island (WAGB-283) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USCGC_Burton_Island_(WAGB-283))
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin February 12, 2014, 04:41:56 PM
Nice work on wood deck look  :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: upnorth February 15, 2014, 01:56:32 AM
Not on the internet, but seen at one of my local shops today:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/cancze/models/Photo0384_zpsfa1247bd.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/cancze/media/models/Photo0384_zpsfa1247bd.jpg.html)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e59/cancze/models/Photo0385_zps0a274beb.jpg) (http://s37.photobucket.com/user/cancze/media/models/Photo0385_zps0a274beb.jpg.html)

Sadly, I only had my mobile phone to take the photo with and had to shoot through glass.

Still, a Salvadoran Wyvern is pretty cool stuff.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin February 15, 2014, 02:35:25 AM
Wicked!  Any idea as to the creator…and if they are interested in joining us? ;)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: fightingirish February 15, 2014, 03:17:22 AM
Boeing SP-52H Sea Fortress
Wonder Whale Nr. 205
Coulson Fliegen Tankers
Nord Oregon

(http://sobchak.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/b52water.jpg)

Source: http://sobchak.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/boeing-sp-52h-sea-fortress/ (http://sobchak.wordpress.com/2014/02/03/boeing-sp-52h-sea-fortress/)

But don't ask me why it has a X-51 WaveRider on its backboard pylon.

Dear mods, if posted before, please delete this post.   :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Cliffy B February 21, 2014, 08:34:22 AM
Guy sees this photo:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/russion-ship-wreck-21_u.jpg)

And makes this:
(http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/IMG_2481_zps99d23008-557x417.jpg)


Enterprising Russian Scrap Dealers 8)
http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/1998-ussr-recycling/ (http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/1998-ussr-recycling/)

: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ChernayaAkula February 21, 2014, 09:22:28 AM
Wonderful diorama!  :-* Love stuff like that.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Daryl J. February 23, 2014, 04:42:08 AM
While looking for inspiration for designing & decorating my hobby room, this page came up.   Check out the Suchoi about 1/3 of the way down!   :)

http://www.coolstuffdirectory.com/2013/01/creative-street-art-by-reflux-16-photos.html (http://www.coolstuffdirectory.com/2013/01/creative-street-art-by-reflux-16-photos.html)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ericr February 23, 2014, 05:34:48 AM
While looking for inspiration for designing & decorating my hobby room, this page came up.   Check out the Suchoi about 1/3 of the way down!   :)

[url]http://www.coolstuffdirectory.com/2013/01/creative-street-art-by-reflux-16-photos.html[/url] ([url]http://www.coolstuffdirectory.com/2013/01/creative-street-art-by-reflux-16-photos.html[/url])


beautiful indeed!

just have to print it on a decal sheet  ???
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper March 21, 2014, 08:20:51 AM
Found this over at ARC:

Northrop heavy fighter (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal13/12801-12900/gal12894-F-89-Kuyper/00.shtm)

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal13/12801-12900/gal12894-F-89-Kuyper/01.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin March 21, 2014, 08:40:41 AM
  :o --- Yet another wanna build 8)

 Need a new suffix letter for F-89
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: PR19_Kit March 21, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
That ScorProp is EXCELLENT! It must have the MOTHER of all piston engines back there.  :)

And of course being a Northrop it just HAS to be tailless!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin March 22, 2014, 03:07:38 AM
Looks great.  Invite sent?
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper April 21, 2014, 10:35:22 AM
Space 1999 Eagle Heavy Lift Transport (http://www.modelermagic.com/?p=56817)

(http://www.modelermagic.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/cid_74B301F3-0F72-4DB5-94BA-6A627B13F8A9@ed_shawcable.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 April 21, 2014, 11:55:15 AM
Hey, that's pretty cool and funny at the same time!

Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine May 01, 2014, 10:47:09 AM
Found at Starship Modeler: Zombie Apocalypse Bushmaster built by Brian Thewlis (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/bt_123113_zbm.html)

(http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/bt_123113_zbm_right2.jpg) (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/bt_123113_zbm.html)
(Image source: Brian Thewlis via Starship Modeler (http://www.starshipmodeler.co/gallery15/bt_123113_zbm.html))
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Frank3k May 01, 2014, 11:54:30 AM
I think that's by Buzzbomb
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat May 01, 2014, 01:03:53 PM
I think that's by Buzzbomb

Yep! That's the bunny!

Immortalised ( ??? ) by being the pilot of my Supermarine Surefire.

Love that beast!

 :P
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver June 06, 2014, 06:41:11 PM
Splendid diorama by Paul Helfrich, posted on Modelwarships .com:

(http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t75/paulhelfrich/Figure%20models/GvsHatsuyuki6_zps075dbe07.jpg)

Thread with more pics here: http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=153234 (http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=153234)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 07, 2014, 03:30:58 AM
Wow!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine July 07, 2014, 04:34:51 AM
Ahmad Syalabi has shared some images of his Schutzenpanzer Caracal (based on a modified Panther G hull) (http://www.track-link.com/gallery/9360) in the gallery at Track-Link forums.  Unfortunately hot-linking images is disabled so use the html provided to visit that page and see the WIP images and finished model. 

Description provided by Ahmad:
Building upon the idea of the Kratzchen, the Caracal APC was born.

The Caracal uses Panther G's chassis with some slight modifications -
- Engine was moved to the front right
- Slightly less armour than the Panther

The Caracal's designed to carry 10 men in addition to the 3 crew on board. Unlike the lightly armoured half tracks and armoured cars, the Caracals are able to engage in combat along side panzer grenadiers as well as the tanks that they accompany.


Schutzenpanzer Caracal (based on a modified Panther G hull) (http://www.track-link.com/gallery/9360)


More of Ahmad's work can be seen via this link to the Track-Link Gallery (http://www.track-link.com/gallery/modeller/asyalabi)

Track-Link main page (http://www.track-link.com/)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Daryl J. August 11, 2014, 10:00:59 AM
 https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=307389472756364&id=100004559402279&set=pcb.10152313052433932&relevant_count=4&source=48  (https://m.facebook.com/?_rdr#!/photo.php?fbid=307389472756364&id=100004559402279&set=pcb.10152313052433932&relevant_count=4&source=48)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: LemonJello August 28, 2014, 12:24:48 AM
Here's something to spur the imagination:

VFA-154 A-19B Frisbee

http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=27714 (http://www.zone-five.net/showthread.php?t=27714)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 28, 2014, 07:39:40 AM
Nice
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper October 16, 2014, 02:15:54 AM
Messerschmitt Me-262 Z (http://www.airwar1946.nl/whif/L46-me262z.htm)

(http://www.airwar1946.nl/whif/images/P0002087m.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper November 26, 2014, 07:34:06 AM
Jeff and I were exchanging ideas on ALBMs and I found this bad boy looking for Skybolt info:

(http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx168/jasper999/P1090676-1.jpg)

(http://i752.photobucket.com/albums/xx168/jasper999/P1090683-1-1.jpg)

Full story of the 1/144th Vickers VC10 Skybolt Poffler; Next generation V-Bomber... here (http://s3.zetaboards.com/locate_and_cement/topic/745753/1/).
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine November 26, 2014, 09:43:29 AM
Nice find Carl! 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Volkodav December 03, 2014, 10:58:14 AM
That does look good, at first glance I thought it was an MPA version with anti-shipping missiles.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine December 09, 2014, 01:03:06 AM
Found today at Modellversium.de: Jurassic Park Part 17: Robot Wars built by Bernd Heller (Jurassic Park Teil 17 Robot Wars von Bernd Heller) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/10-space-scifi/11508-jurassic-park-teil-17-eigenbau.html)

Click on html above or thumbnail image below to view the rest of Bernd's images.

(http://a.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/5/0/8/11508-tumb.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/10-space-scifi/11508-jurassic-park-teil-17-eigenbau.html)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine December 09, 2014, 05:07:29 AM
Modeling Madness has a nice little 1:72nd scale what-if today from George Oh that I am sure you will appreciate :)

Luftwaffe A6M2 Zero (http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/axis/j/jnaf/oha6m.htm)

Click on html or image to view. 

(http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/axis/j/jnaf/oha6mh.jpg) (http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/axis/j/jnaf/oha6m.htm)
(Image source: George Oh/Modeling Madness (http://www.modelingmadness.com/review/axis/j/jnaf/oha6mh.jpg))
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: KiwiZac December 21, 2014, 05:29:30 AM
This Polish bloke on Britmodeller has bashed a seriously cool ground-attack variant of the Do335: http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959947-dornier-do-335-f5sf-conversion-hobby-boss-172/ (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959947-dornier-do-335-f5sf-conversion-hobby-boss-172/)

Apologies if it's been posted already...but no apologies as it's so darned cool!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine December 28, 2014, 03:36:16 AM
LOH-7 Scout - Ein "What if"-Projekt von Thomas Brückelt (1:48 Eigenbau) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/1-hubschrauber/11651-loh-7-scout-eigenbau.html)

Click on html or image to view at modellversium.de. 

(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/img/6/5/1/11651/3174166/loh-7-scout-eigenbau.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/1-hubschrauber/11651-loh-7-scout-eigenbau.html)
(Image source: Thomas Brückelt/modellversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/1-hubschrauber/11651-loh-7-scout-eigenbau.html))

The way I understand it, the guy used his own sketch, made some CAD drawings and had them printed out. Therefore, I'd say it a fairly involved scratch-build.

Moritz
At first glance, I thought this was an actual production model kit.  In a way it is but not for mass consumption.  Thomas designed his model from scratch, starting with a sketch that then progressed to a 3D CAD model and from there to an actual 3D printed model.  Very impressive and something that should be an inspiration to us all, provided we have the time, resources, and capital to accomplish something such as this for our own devices.  As I was not sure about my own translation of the description in the article, I asked  Moritz (aka ChernayaAkula) for assistance and with his confirmation of my interpretation I realized that this belongs here in this discussion instead of being reported as a new model kit it even though it is technically a new model kit it is for private consumption and not yet for sale. 

I suppose you could contact Thomas and see if he is willing to have a model printed up for your own use if you wanted to give it a shot.  :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine December 29, 2014, 03:13:32 AM
Mark Rau has started a WIP thread on the Missing-Lynx forums to cover his what-if kit bash of the DML/Dragon-Black Label M103 kit:
M33 Gen. Hood - Whif M103..or what to do with that pile of...... (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1419697149/Whif+M103..or+what+to+do+with+that+pile+of......)

(http://i34.photobucket.com/albums/d107/uarkram/Mockup1_zps4ccd259a.jpg) (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1419697149/Whif+M103..or+what+to+do+with+that+pile+of......)
(Image source: Mark Rau/Missing-Lynx (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47209/thread/1419697149/Whif+M103..or+what+to+do+with+that+pile+of......))

Mark's WIP thread at this link: M33 Gen. Hood progress (http://www.network54.com/Forum/110741/thread/1419730958/M33+Gen.+Hood++progress)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime January 14, 2015, 01:49:40 AM
Turbospite, or something...
Found on secretprojects, was intended for the Hushkit site but not published there.

http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23539.0.html (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,23539.0.html)

: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke January 16, 2015, 05:52:35 AM
Here's a neat one from DeviantART. (http://tiagoporto.deviantart.com/gallery/) It looks kind of like a combination of a Short Sandringham (layout, configuration), Grumman Albatross (cockpit, engines), and Antonov An-10 (nose).

(http://th02.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2015/014/2/d/tiago_porto___03_by_tiagoporto-d8dyefm.jpg)

(http://th04.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2015/015/0/9/tiago_porto__close_067_by_tiagoporto-d8e10lq.jpg)

(http://th01.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/f/2015/015/f/4/tiago_porto__close_0202_by_tiagoporto-d8e11v4.jpg)

If it's a real plane, I'm not familiar with it.

http://tiagoporto.deviantart.com/gallery/ (http://tiagoporto.deviantart.com/gallery/)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 21, 2015, 02:52:54 AM
On Arc:

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13201-13300/gal13279-A-10-Lara/01.jpg) (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13201-13300/gal13279-A-10-Lara/00.shtm)

Click on image to see more details
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat January 21, 2015, 11:41:53 AM
Nice! :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver February 25, 2015, 09:43:42 AM
Post-apocalyptic dioramas by Lori Nix. Lori makes these entirely physically with no digital manipulation involved:

http://www.lorinix.net/ (http://www.lorinix.net/)

(http://www.lorinix.net/images/the_city/16.jpg)

(http://www.lorinix.net/images/the_city/05.jpg)

(http://static.squarespace.com/static/5413523de4b05407cce21690/54885e54e4b0bb40c8b144fe/54886025e4b0bb40c8b16149/1418223653752/DSCN1320.jpg?format=original)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver February 26, 2015, 07:05:09 AM
Miniature vintage synthesisers:

http://boingboing.net/2015/02/25/tiny-models-of-vintage-synthes.html (http://boingboing.net/2015/02/25/tiny-models-of-vintage-synthes.html)

(http://media.boingboing.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/screenshot10.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin March 04, 2015, 03:00:55 AM
This may have been posted before:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/2a/5d/f4/2a5df4d9aca23e0d19255fdeb68bf3c4.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick March 04, 2015, 04:50:28 AM
I've seen it before and its still cool!
Hmmmmm... front half of a Hind to make the strike version of the V-22????????
Wanders off to hobby store......
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin March 05, 2015, 02:24:18 AM

Hmmmmm... front half of a Hind to make the strike version of the V-22????????
Wanders off to hobby store......

Oh yeah!!!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Cliffy B March 19, 2015, 03:50:38 AM
Catamaran S-boat with the turrets of two Panther tanks with 7,5 cm guns, a twin 8,8 cm gun in the starboard bridge, two Fiesler Fi 103R Reichenbach IV kamikazes and a Bachem Ba 349 Natter  ;D

(http://www.modellmarine.de/images/albums/zeiskam15-4/zeiskam15-143.jpg)

From here: http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_imagebrowser&view=gallery&folder=zeiskam15-1&Itemid=55 (http://www.modellmarine.de/index.php?option=com_imagebrowser&view=gallery&folder=zeiskam15-1&Itemid=55)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke March 19, 2015, 09:13:45 PM
Here's a couple that I think some on the forum would appreciate:

(http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2014/223/a/8/wasteland_traveler_by_darkki1-d7uqpkq.jpg)

Wasteland Traveler by Darkki1 (http://darkki1.deviantart.com/art/Wasteland-Traveler-474897914)

(http://img01.deviantart.net/56ba/i/2015/077/1/a/wasteland_truck_by_darkki1-d8m73js.jpg)

Wasteland Truck by Darkki1 (http://www.deviantart.com/art/Wasteland-Truck-521012152)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 29, 2015, 02:56:02 AM
Found on ebay (here (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BUILT-1-48-SKUNKMODELS-MQ-9-REPEAR-WHAT-IF-RAAF-6-SQUADRON/381229315872?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3Dc95d256883c745e1b477c085d1ff5aa0%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D261861420100)) - soon to become a reality as I understand it (though not with 6SQN per sae):

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57_zpsiul5dmfg.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-2_zpsrgi7nmdy.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-3_zpscb14i4wb.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-5_zpsk04chmyg.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-4_zpscpj3yrbu.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-6_zpslr16cqhf.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-9_zpsivnhvpff.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-7_zpss7zy4xwy.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-8_zpsyz9hmm5b.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-11_zpsekysmpvd.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-12_zpsctqdz0e5.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/_57-10_zpsxkoa7w3w.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin May 05, 2015, 03:19:10 AM
An old one:  1949 Schneider Cup Racer Brewster/State Aircraft Factory 'Vesipuhveli' ('Water Buffalo') By Scott Kruize

(http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/april/aviation/finn_vesi.jpg) (http://www.internetmodeler.com/2005/april/aviation/Schneider-4.php)

Click on image to see more
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper August 08, 2015, 07:17:29 AM
Stumbled on this  (http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959947-dornier-do-335-f5sf-conversion-hobby-boss-172/)Do 335 mod over at Britmodeller:

(http://images54.fotosik.pl/353/5172a29a259abb3e.jpg)

Base on this:

(http://images52.fotosik.pl/353/b97e589744e30c84.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 09, 2015, 02:39:06 AM
Interesting
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ysi_maniac August 13, 2015, 05:10:31 AM
Stumbled on this  ([url]http://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234959947-dornier-do-335-f5sf-conversion-hobby-boss-172/[/url])Do 335 mod over at Britmodeller:

([url]http://images54.fotosik.pl/353/5172a29a259abb3e.jpg[/url])

Base on this:

([url]http://images52.fotosik.pl/353/b97e589744e30c84.jpg[/url])


WOW!!!!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 16, 2015, 05:03:46 AM
Kiwi SeaApache:

(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-xK70aiIkH10/ULRSnz4KuFI/AAAAAAAADwo/SmTefo8ZRmk/s800/IMG_4589.JPG)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-UQp-pf9K-o0/ULRSnBlMFkI/AAAAAAAADwQ/qM7v7XrKabQ/s800/IMG_4577.JPG)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 21, 2015, 05:22:32 AM
(http://www.szetor.com/albums/SZR_CAV66/DSC06395.sized.jpg)

More (http://z11.invisionfree.com/Work_In_Progress/ar/t5104.htm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 22, 2015, 06:27:29 AM
(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13501-13600/gal13578-Typhoon-Kuyper/01.jpg)

More (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13501-13600/gal13578-Typhoon-Kuyper/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper August 22, 2015, 06:40:40 AM
Cool. A Floaty-phoon?
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 30, 2015, 08:44:24 AM
Surely someone can be tempted to model this one:

(http://2chart.fc2web.com/2chart/pic/shaasennyousensha.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver September 03, 2015, 06:17:53 PM
Can't read the Japanese, but mech/anime/sci-fi fans need to check this guy out on Twitter:

https://twitter.com/benigumoha?lang=en

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CJCrIdCVEAA3pp8.jpg)

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CLKEpQ5UYAAeqCC.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin December 20, 2015, 01:41:47 PM
Is one of you responsible for this?

(http://i126.photobucket.com/albums/p110/GTX_Christmas/e77615c6e0b97231f112be050723e956.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: jcf December 20, 2015, 02:06:47 PM
Val Bueno from Hawai'i.

One of his 2014 completions.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1418415102 (http://www.network54.com/Forum/47751/message/1418415102)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine January 02, 2016, 02:22:08 PM
Dave Bailey (aka The Rat) has created a very nice what-if Transall C-260 in 1:220th scale (four engines) for Silly Week 2016 at ARC (http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/00.shtm)

Click on html or thumbnail image to view at ARC.

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/00.shtm)




I purchased a pair of C-160 kits with this same idea in mind and seeing what Dave has accomplished in 1:220th scale makes me wonder how this would fare in 1:72nd scale.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper January 02, 2016, 10:56:50 PM
Dave Bailey (aka The Rat) has created a very nice what-if Transall C-260 in 1:220th scale (four engines) for Silly Week 2016 at ARC ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/00.shtm[/url])

Click on html or thumbnail image to view at ARC.

([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/01m.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal14/13701-13800/gal13740-C260-Bailey/00.shtm[/url])

I purchased a pair of C-160 kits with this same idea in mind and seeing what Dave has accomplished in 1:220th scale makes me wonder how this would fare in 1:72nd scale.


Silly Week  is every day here. It should be renamed to "Normal Week".  ;D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 January 03, 2016, 12:20:07 AM
I'm not sure if I'll have anything for Silly Week this year. I may be able to find something I built earlier this year and shoot some pics.
Blah.

Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver January 09, 2016, 12:58:39 PM
BAe Hawk 100 in Nigel Mansell F1 colours.

Model by 'The Migrant'.

Posted on the official Airfix forum here: http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/forum/post/view/topic_id/12904/?p=1 (http://www.airfix.com/uk-en/forum/post/view/topic_id/12904/?p=1)

Based on a profile by Claveworks Graphics here: http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_racing_teams/fantasy_FR017.html (http://www.clavework-graphics.co.uk/aircraft/fantasy_racing_teams/fantasy_FR017.html)


(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Migrant/0nlineFinishedNew/BAeHawk_Mansell/1000px/BAeHawkNM_1000_05_zpsen86yybd.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Migrant/0nlineFinishedNew/BAeHawk_Mansell/1000px/BAeHawkNM_1000_01_zpsfwpeqzzb.jpg)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/Migrant/0nlineFinishedNew/BAeHawk_Mansell/1000px/BAeHawkNM_1000_03_zps6o3b093l.jpg)
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: Alvis 3.1 January 09, 2016, 01:57:49 PM
 :-*

Whoa nelly! That's amazing!!

Alvis 3.1
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: GTX_Admin January 10, 2016, 04:35:57 AM
Sweet!!!
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: ericr January 10, 2016, 08:31:48 AM
Silly Week  is every day here. It should be renamed to "Normal Week".  ;D

 :) ;D
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: finsrin January 10, 2016, 11:19:59 AM
Sell advertising space on military aircraft as income to reduce total operating costs.  Such a deal !
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver January 10, 2016, 01:07:33 PM
Sell advertising space on military aircraft as income to reduce total operating costs.  Such a deal !

Yes, until the company sues the air force for loss of reputation when a jet with their logo on it is filmed dropping a bomb on a hospital instead of a headquarters.
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: Weaver January 10, 2016, 01:09:39 PM
On the other hand, imagine a world where the mercenary business was totally legal and above-board. You might get jets proudly painted up with trade marks of Executive Outcomes or Blackwater International.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin January 10, 2016, 01:42:51 PM
Sell advertising space on military aircraft as income to reduce total operating costs.  Such a deal !

Yes, until the company sues the air force for loss of reputation when a jet with their logo on it is filmed dropping a bomb on a hospital instead of a headquarters.

Carefully drafted language (fine print) would be necessary to exempt military from such lawsuits.  Mishaps of war like that and friendly fire mistakes happen.  Signing up to advertise has its P.R. risks.  Doing this type advertising is at the option of a company as are other business decisions.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 10, 2016, 02:12:44 PM
Sell advertising space on military aircraft as income to reduce total operating costs.  Such a deal !


You were saying...

(http://www.flygplan.info/images/Lockheed_S-3B_Viking.jpg)
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: kerick January 10, 2016, 11:23:11 PM
Nice! I love the NASCAR sticker!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: LemonJello January 12, 2016, 08:42:23 AM
On the other hand, imagine a world where the mercenary business was totally legal and above-board. You might get jets proudly painted up with trade marks of Executive Outcomes or Blackwater International.

Have you read "The Profession" by Steven Pressfield? It has a very interesting take on PMC/Mercenaries. 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 13, 2016, 03:34:17 AM
Have you read "The Profession" by Steven Pressfield? It has a very interesting take on PMC/Mercenaries.


If you have an interest in this field, I highly recommend the following book:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51Vs2EywY5L._SX327_BO1,204,203,200_.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 13, 2016, 03:35:23 AM
You might get jets proudly painted up with trade marks of Executive Outcomes or Blackwater International.

You know that Blackwater did have their own aircraft?  If you now look up "EP Aviation" you will see some of them.  It is all fairly boring though...

(https://img.planespotters.net/photo/227000/original/n4399t-ep-aviation-casa-c-212-df-aviocar_PlanespottersNet_227983.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke January 18, 2016, 01:40:50 PM
A "real" Whif. I was surprised at how convincing that looks.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/panzer-6888-61bbe9b7-07c2-44df-a686-37f45c0a753f.jpg~original)

Cheers,

Logan
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: jcf January 18, 2016, 02:27:00 PM
... another very dangerous fault was found. Switching on the heating system could lead to the main gun firing the round in the gun. This problem was caused by the fact that some systems shared the same electrical circuits. This problem never led to any accidents. In a sarcastic headline, Swiss tabloid Blick commented: "The Panzer 68 is much more dangerous than it seems!"

 ;D
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: The Big Gimper February 28, 2016, 07:57:25 PM
Here is something from a local modeler. I met / influenced / converted him the via the mutual friend/owner of this FlickR website and with whom we both interact with.

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/2/1655/25285180036_ff2bb35027_b_d.jpg)

Chris' Italeri/Hobbycraft 1/72nd "wiffer" - Super Arrow : Shout Out to Carl!  Chris has gone over to the Dark Side. Lord Sith Carl is using the force.
 
And how!
 
This model is other worldly, literally. In Chris' words:
 
I saw this thing a while back on the internets - a guy did a 3D model of an up-to-date arrow and called it the super arrow. To my eye it looked like a YF-23 with arrow wings. I've attached one of the pictures of his plans. Since then the original 3D modeler has gone on to refine the shape of his super arrow so its different now (and would be somewhat difficult to do now).
 
I thought to myself - I wonder if I can do this on an actual model? Turns out that the arrow wings will fit onto the YF-23 fuselage with a bit of work, styrene and filler. I had to measure and align everything very carefully before the cuts in order to have a decent chance to get this thing to look right once it was together. I was lucky to make some very clean cuts in the YF-23 fuselage and boxed it in with styrene. There are two brass rods that were used to create a strong bond with the arrow wings.
 
This is my what-if and it goes out to Carl. I used Canuck Models Arrow decals and they worked well without any solutions. The paint is straight tamiya white primer that was sanded.
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: The Big Gimper February 28, 2016, 07:59:02 PM
Another earlier WHIF from Chris:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7522/16148139852_901a3df09e_b_d.jpg)
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: GTX_Admin February 29, 2016, 01:50:47 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke March 19, 2016, 12:25:01 PM
(http://pre03.deviantart.net/641a/th/pre/i/2016/078/c/8/the_horror_of_tankenstein_by_boogster11-d9vpepq.jpg) (http://boogster11.deviantart.com/art/The-Horror-of-Tankenstein-597449150)

The Horror of Tankenstein by boogster11 on DeviantArt (http://boogster11.deviantart.com/art/The-Horror-of-Tankenstein-597449150)

Cheers,

Logan
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: The Big Gimper March 25, 2016, 02:23:44 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12063671_1094525517265180_8024660997266945500_n.jpg?oh=be653ef8c9bc2cb0ab387e191ce30064&oe=577EC647)

Attributed to World of Tanks

Source: Facebook
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: finsrin March 25, 2016, 03:24:54 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12063671_1094525517265180_8024660997266945500_n.jpg?oh=be653ef8c9bc2cb0ab387e191ce30064&oe=577EC647)

Attributed to World of Tanks

Source: Facebook

Inspiring  :-*
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: Old Wombat March 27, 2016, 11:17:10 PM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12063671_1094525517265180_8024660997266945500_n.jpg?oh=be653ef8c9bc2cb0ab387e191ce30064&oe=577EC647)

Attributed to World of Tanks

Source: Facebook

Inspiring  :-*

And a 12,742 km turning circle! ;D
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: The Big Gimper April 04, 2016, 11:05:09 AM
Found this while looking for YB-40 pictures on Google. Go figure.

IL-52

(http://i59.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/9e/f7fa7e87a4ba0d76a5d5a812e8571e9e.jpg)
(http://i59.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/cc/f350b9682388828a3bb001b4e5a6bccc.jpg)
(http://i58.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/1f/f63b902244f4c1c9a1204b71d169911f.jpg)
(http://i60.fastpic.ru/big/2013/1029/f3/ad96cff6670d8ae1696f70292f3de3f3.jpg)

Source: This page (http://survincity.com/2010/09/far-bomber-il-52/). Text on the page is somewhat confused. Probably due to a malfunctioning Babellfish. 
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: kitnut617 April 04, 2016, 07:08:18 PM
Neat idea, but thinking as an engineer (I'm not one BTW), the strain on the wing when on the ground and fully loaded  -----

well let's put it this way, I wouldn't put my main gear way out there on the wingtips.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick April 04, 2016, 07:24:24 PM
Looks like outriggers out on the wings. Main gear looks B-47, B-52 style. Looks like a swept wing glider.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper April 04, 2016, 07:36:09 PM
The other item that I have a question on is the size of the bomb bay.

The main looks like it came from the Myasishchev M-4 or M-50 and is massive. Once you store these puppies and the engines, how much unused space is there?

But putting reality in your back pocket, it is pretty.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper April 16, 2016, 08:41:54 PM
Quote: "It's the Sukhoi Kr-830 (aka Kp-830?) concept for a twin deck very large airliner which was promoted in the late 90s but hasn't seemed to go anywhere. An interesting feature is that the concept has folding wings to allow it to get closer to the terminal etc... and double front landing gear assemblies..."

(http://i1.tinypic.com/rvyj4i.jpg)

Ref: Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_KR-860)
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: kitnut617 April 16, 2016, 11:43:34 PM
And ground loading ----     ;D

Nice find Carl
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: taiidantomcat April 30, 2016, 12:02:38 AM
Holy cow that is cool!! :o

Never seen that
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 30, 2016, 03:45:29 AM
In Russia, we take the Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) mission seriously...very seriously!!! ;)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: mrvr6 April 30, 2016, 04:27:17 AM
(https://scontent-dfw1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xtp1/v/t1.0-9/12063671_1094525517265180_8024660997266945500_n.jpg?oh=be653ef8c9bc2cb0ab387e191ce30064&oe=577EC647)

Attributed to World of Tanks

Source: Facebook

Inspiring  :-*

And a 12,742 km turning circle! ;D
i think that was real! or something similer lol it was a disaster, the 1st shot itself when the rear turret fired into the front and the 2nd fell over iirc
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper May 29, 2016, 11:06:22 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13220701_303743529957636_4266235933915206426_o.jpg)

Source: Facebook Oxygino Aviation Art (https://www.facebook.com/oxygino3dart/)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper May 31, 2016, 10:05:45 AM
Alternative Op Musketeer requests with an HP.111, V-1000, Victor B.1 & Vulcan B.1 from John Lacey:

(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13346824_1705218679732913_6191645232722384922_n.jpg?oh=d23207347bd0489947dd7e3589fe093f&oe=57E559B8)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13335525_1705218659732915_3907182935016869209_n.jpg?oh=2d475b0c2063fcdc653cbea8ebc35433&oe=57E38021)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13319957_1705218653066249_1502981676447532434_n.jpg?oh=fed2b5ad02a927bf50b14ac1b5e76d6e&oe=580E88AB)
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13310525_1705218633066251_4771866406202196554_n.jpg?oh=c4e59935f3dcf40f60306f5601db60ba&oe=57D25123)

Source: Facebook John's Aircraft & Armour Profile Page
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: The Big Gimper June 14, 2016, 08:35:40 PM
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13445684_10201788399589006_6395359269122556067_n.jpg?oh=c0186ed03de246e12e86f7e7fdb3fdde&oe=5804CA65)

Look at the left A-12. Extra seating.

Source: Facebook  The Greatest Planes That Never Were
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Weaver June 14, 2016, 08:41:07 PM
Wow: I'd love to see the shockwave interactions behind that canard going into the intake... ???
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: dy031101 August 12, 2016, 02:56:25 AM
I actually remember doing a model along the same line ("twined" SR-71) when I was a little boy, when I was under the incorrect assumption that the P-38 doesn't have a centrally-located cockpit......  ;D

(The result, of course, was a mess since my age was single-digit at that time.  But it was fun.)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: taiidantomcat August 13, 2016, 11:49:05 PM
(https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/13220701_303743529957636_4266235933915206426_o.jpg)

Source: Facebook Oxygino Aviation Art (https://www.facebook.com/oxygino3dart/)

Incredible. Creates a torrent of ideas
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: Logan Hartke September 13, 2016, 06:53:05 AM
(http://armorama.kitmaker.net/photos/feature/4625/86.jpg) (http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=4625)

http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=4625 (http://armorama.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=4625)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: taiidantomcat September 13, 2016, 08:02:40 AM
Brilliant
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper September 14, 2016, 07:39:26 PM
Fokker F26

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14317426_1116478561733197_5730877711247385613_n.jpg?oh=90194ecae0183e8e99a80086ce703cdf&oe=587E6872)

The F26 was a low wing all-metal aircraft seating 17 passengers. As a novelty for a Fokker aircraft, there was to be a pressurized cabin.

The proposed engines were Rolls-Royce Nenes, the most powerful turbojets at the time. To assist accessibility, the engines were positioned beneath the front fuselage - again an innovation. And the low-mounted wing was to be equipped with flaps. A three-man crew was envisaged: two pilots side-by-side, and behind them a wireless operator facing aft. The passenger cabin had a double row of seats on the starboard side and a single row on the port.

At the rear end of the cabin was a toilet as well as two cargo holds. The retractable landing gear was of tricycle layout. A cruising speed of 500 mph and a range of 620 miles were given in a brochure. Later descriptions in the aviation press refer to the F26 as a "praiseworthy effort to develop a jet airliner". KIM was quite interested in the Fokker concept as can be seen from the minutes of a meeting on 6 October 1948 when a number of Fokker specialists briefed KLM boss Plesman and technical director Henk Veenendaal. Encouraged by the airline's response, Fokker's Preliminary Design Department made a few more designs of twin-jet airliners which were discussed with KLM and the Netherlands Institute for Aircraft Development (NIV).

In Plesman's view however, the development of a jet airliner would be too much for Fokker to manage alone. He proposed cooperation with cle Havilland in England who were known to be working on a jet liner - later named the Comet.

Subsequently there was some contact and an exchange of information between the two companies as shown by design drawings in the Fokker archives. In October 1949 Ir. P. J. C. Vos, a director of Fokker, wrote to Professor Dr. Ir. H. J. van der Maas about a comparison between a jet and turboprop airliner.

(http://www.internationalresinmodellers.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Fokker_F26_three_view_A_D.358165755_std.jpg)
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14292365_1116478831733170_2990549880843370349_n.jpg?oh=aac51057a9c4684860c570a50eddb58c&oe=58799CF9)
(http://www.internationalresinmodellers.com/yahoo_site_admin/assets/images/Fokker_F26_Phantom_parts_list.341162723_std.jpg)
(http://www.hollandaircraft.nl/pictures/F-26-06.jpg)

You could build a US copy using either a C-46 Commando or the Boeing 307.

Sources:
Facebook The Greatest Planes That Never Were
IRMA: Building the 1/72 IRMA Kit No. 7©SM®TM Fokker F.26 Phantom (http://www.internationalresinmodellers.com/articles_20_building_the_fokker_f26_phantom)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 September 14, 2016, 11:28:18 PM
Wow! That's an amazingly hideous, yet mysteriously attractive design!
Curses, I've never heard of "International Resin Modellers" before. I see they HAD an Avro jetliner. Emphasis on HAD. Twas a tad expensive though.
Thanks for posting this!

Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ericr September 15, 2016, 11:59:30 PM

astonishing indeed !
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: Frank3k September 16, 2016, 01:43:38 AM
I started a scratchbuild in 1/350 scale of the F26. I even made the engine pods in resin, but I never finished the model. I just lost interest after knocking the wings off for the 10th time.

Maybe I should try to make it in 3D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: jcf September 16, 2016, 02:09:31 AM
An unconfined turbine failure woulda really sucked for those first row passengers.  :-X
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper September 16, 2016, 02:32:08 AM
An unconfined turbine failure woulda really sucked for those first row passengers.  :-X

Yup. That's why 1st Class is in the back of the aircraft.  :o
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper September 17, 2016, 05:55:16 AM
(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14355716_1118510878196632_7649777447192243659_n.jpg?oh=7930da804b47b91ec64929c2dab9d08d&oe=58834AA7)

(https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/t31.0-8/14195926_1118511358196584_2538621289935213033_o.jpg)

(https://cdnb1.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/002/081/945/large/rasmus-poulsen-flying-wing-05flat.jpg?1456979111)

Source: Technouveau - Rasmas Poulsen (https://www.artstation.com/search?q=Rasmus%20Poulsen)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin September 17, 2016, 05:57:30 AM
Wow!!
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: arkon September 18, 2016, 03:45:52 AM
Those are awesome! I think my brain just melted.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin September 18, 2016, 03:56:30 AM
Lower two are especially cool  8)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 September 18, 2016, 04:31:32 AM
Lower two are especially cool  8)

I like them too, but I can't see how the wing can sweep back into the slots in the fuselage just where the upper engines would be ----  ::)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D October 05, 2016, 03:50:46 PM
Riddle me this:
I would have derived as an advanced and refined variant of a very original design and concept, which had a troublesome development time in terms of the services I was intended to serve, the politician's that decreed me, and the organisation that would design and build me.
I would have theoretically been cost effective, compared to my principle successor, as I was based on the modification of an existing built and operational aircraft!
With this modification, I would gain:
- length,
- weight,
- critically increase in range and weapons load,
- a new and more powerful and fuel efficient powerplant, which ironically, was designed to power the design, which would course my demise.
If I had of been built and put into operational service, ironically, I would have achieved the originally intended requirements, that my parent service intended!
My phonetic designation of the letter between 'G' and 'I' ialone would have distinctively separated my role and size from my brethren.
Sadly, if I had been approved by my service and political masters, I would have entered operational service in 1981-1984 time frame, at a forecast cost of at least $7 billion

Who or what would I have been? :P

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 05, 2016, 04:57:58 PM
FB-111H:

(http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f367/Aussie747/Reference/FB-111H-1.jpg)

Also seen here (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3.0)

I would love to have a go of modelling one some day.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D October 05, 2016, 07:06:57 PM
Correct in one!!

I stumbled across this amazing WhatIf model of an FB-111H, by a Kristopher Harvey
Unfortunately, I don't know him, but snapping duck shit I'm impressed!!

P.S. This design is one of those planes the U.S. stuffed up on not building or deploying  :(

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 06, 2016, 02:13:16 AM
Scale?  Where did you find it?


P.S. This design is one of those planes the U.S. stuffed up on not building or deploying  :(


How did they stuff up?  I am sure it would be argued that the B-1B fulfilled the role needed.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D October 06, 2016, 02:42:07 AM
Don't get me wrong, the Bone is an awesome bomber - performance, range and payload..... But IMO, the FB-111H was half the price of the B-1B, could be fielded quicker, I'm assuming cheaper to operate, as a replacement for earlier limited capability FB-111A's, whilst resource and money could have been.put into the Carter initiated ATB! But that's just "my opinion". I'm thinking 80-100 x FB-111H's and 50-60 x B-1B's  ;)
USAF TAC get FB-111H's when B-2 come on line - U.S. Military retain the F-111H range and capability for the Afghan and Iraqi invasions!! Hell knows they could do with their range and loiter time!
Plus who knows, the Australia/RAAF might have considered upgrading/modifying its Pig's to F-111H's!!! I'm still allowed to dream here am I not?

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: taiidantomcat October 06, 2016, 02:44:42 AM
Riddle me this:
I would have derived as an advanced and refined variant of a very original design and concept, which had a troublesome development time in terms of the services I was intended to serve, the politician's that decreed me, and the organisation that would design and build me.
I would have theoretically been cost effective, compared to my principle successor, as I was based on the modification of an existing built and operational aircraft!
With this modification, I would gain:
- length,
- weight,
- critically increase in range and weapons load,
- a new and more powerful and fuel efficient powerplant, which ironically, was designed to power the design, which would course my demise.
If I had of been built and put into operational service, ironically, I would have achieved the originally intended requirements, that my parent service intended!
My phonetic designation of the letter between 'G' and 'I' ialone would have distinctively separated my role and size from my brethren.
Sadly, if I had been approved by my service and political masters, I would have entered operational service in 1981-1984 time frame, at a forecast cost of at least $7 billion

Who or what would I have been? :P

M.A.D


Also this:

(http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_F-18F_RAAF_Armed_AIM-9X_ATFLIR_AGM-154C_lg.jpg)

 ;D


P.S. This design is one of those planes the U.S. stuffed up on not building or deploying  :(

M.A.D


Not really, the cold war ended by the late 1980s, the USSR dissolved by 1991, SAC soon there after, and the F-111Fs were all retired by 1996, followed by the EFs two years later. When the cold war ended it was just a matter of time for the F-111 in US service, which is true of a lot of aircraft actually. There was a huge "Mass retirement" as cold war platforms were removed from service. Most companies create "follow on designs" to pitch when the Military is looking for a new craft. Makes for great Whif Fodder! Most of them don't seem to get picked. Super Hornet was picked from the old Hornet 2000 proposal, but even then it took the F-14 replacement, and A-6 replacement tanking. (both of which had their own follow on designs like ST-21 and A-6F)

Lot of other 1980s designs were cut, curtailed, canceled or significantly slowed as well all across the world.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 13, 2016, 03:31:13 AM
One going back to 2008:  Leopard C2A2-HR (Heavy Reconnaissance):

(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/ldshleopardcrew/C2A2HRfinalversion2.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/ldshleopardcrew/img_48022.jpg)
(http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u162/ldshleopardcrew/img_48002.jpg)

story and many more pictures (incl build pics) here (http://www.network54.com/Search/view/169232/1222727663/WOTIF+Leopard+C2A2-HR+(Heavy+Reconnaissance)?term=Ford&page=30509).
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke December 01, 2016, 01:56:14 AM
The roundels aren't aligned properly, but otherwise I'm surprised at how "right" this looks. Maybe because it's generationally very close to the Viggen.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cya4BbzWQAAvIg5.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin December 01, 2016, 02:29:45 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin December 01, 2016, 09:10:25 AM
Yes,,,  I'm surprised at how "right" this looks.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 December 27, 2016, 03:41:27 AM
One of my annual "What would Santa fly?" models from ARC this year:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13901-14000/gal13936-I-16-Petrie/00.shtm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal14/13901-14000/gal13936-I-16-Petrie/00.shtm)
(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/Alvis3_1/I-16%20Santa_zpswjxjvyzt.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/Alvis3_1/media/I-16%20Santa_zpswjxjvyzt.jpg.html)
Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Alvis 3.1 December 27, 2016, 03:42:41 AM
The other "What Would Santa Fly" model I posted on ARC this year:
http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal15/14101-14200/gal14153-Caribou-Petrie/00.shtm (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal15/14101-14200/gal14153-Caribou-Petrie/00.shtm)

(http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g102/Alvis3_1/Caribou_zpsnjm954kg.jpg) (http://s54.photobucket.com/user/Alvis3_1/media/Caribou_zpsnjm954kg.jpg.html)

Alvis 3.1
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin December 28, 2016, 02:28:03 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ChernayaAkula December 31, 2016, 11:58:52 AM
Good stuff, Alvis!  :)

The roundels aren't aligned properly, but otherwise I'm surprised at how "right" this looks. Maybe because it's generationally very close to the Viggen.

([url]https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cya4BbzWQAAvIg5.jpg[/url])


Looks very right indeed.
Kit-bash idea: Flogger fuselage with Viggen wings?  ??? EDIT: Posted a profile of that in the Flogger thread: LINK! (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2046.msg119661#msg119661)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 01, 2017, 02:55:35 AM
It's obviously a Swedish Sk-38 (MiG-23B) - see here (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=64.0).
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick January 01, 2017, 10:09:50 AM
Riddle me this:
I would have derived as an advanced and refined variant of a very original design and concept, which had a troublesome development time in terms of the services I was intended to serve, the politician's that decreed me, and the organisation that would design and build me.
I would have theoretically been cost effective, compared to my principle successor, as I was based on the modification of an existing built and operational aircraft!
With this modification, I would gain:
- length,
- weight,
- critically increase in range and weapons load,
- a new and more powerful and fuel efficient powerplant, which ironically, was designed to power the design, which would course my demise.
If I had of been built and put into operational service, ironically, I would have achieved the originally intended requirements, that my parent service intended!
My phonetic designation of the letter between 'G' and 'I' ialone would have distinctively separated my role and size from my brethren.
Sadly, if I had been approved by my service and political masters, I would have entered operational service in 1981-1984 time frame, at a forecast cost of at least $7 billion

Who or what would I have been? :P

M.A.D


Also this:

([url]http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_F-18F_RAAF_Armed_AIM-9X_ATFLIR_AGM-154C_lg.jpg[/url])

 ;D


P.S. This design is one of those planes the U.S. stuffed up on not building or deploying  :(

M.A.D


Not really, the cold war ended by the late 1980s, the USSR dissolved by 1991, SAC soon there after, and the F-111Fs were all retired by 1996, followed by the EFs two years later. When the cold war ended it was just a matter of time for the F-111 in US service, which is true of a lot of aircraft actually. There was a huge "Mass retirement" as cold war platforms were removed from service. Most companies create "follow on designs" to pitch when the Military is looking for a new craft. Makes for great Whif Fodder! Most of them don't seem to get picked. Super Hornet was picked from the old Hornet 2000 proposal, but even then it took the F-14 replacement, and A-6 replacement tanking. (both of which had their own follow on designs like ST-21 and A-6F)

Lot of other 1980s designs were cut, curtailed, canceled or significantly slowed as well all across the world.


The F-111 was a real maintenance headache from the time it was introduced until retirement. My uncle worked at the Sacramento depot and could tell horror stories. To complex to start with with analog tech that no one person completely understood. Pile on different mods over the years, some analog and some digital And you get quite a mess. Don't get me wrong, one of my future projects is a modernized F-111. Just that it was time for cheaper and more capable aircraft to take over.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke January 05, 2017, 10:53:23 PM
Here's one I found today on DeviantArt.

T60E3 Howitzer Motor Carriage by TheoComm on DeviantArt (http://theocomm.deviantart.com/art/T60E3-Howitzer-Motor-Carriage-655482230?src=MC_deviation_stack)

(http://pre11.deviantart.net/49b1/th/pre/i/2017/004/0/8/t60e3_howitzer_motor_carriage_by_theocomm-dau99bq.png)

The 152mm Howitzer Motor Carriage T60E3 is a self-propelled assault gun with a limited traversing turret designed to support infantry troops against enemy fortification.

Being introduced late into the war, several years after the design was first proposed, the T60E3 saw very little action over other more modern and more heavily armored self-propelled guns already in service. Mixed with using a specifically designed short howitzer round, the ones that did saw action did not see more than one sortie due to the scarcity of its munition.

Weight: 35.8 tonnes
Length: 6.56m
Width: 2.95m
Height: 3.01m
Maximum Speed: 45km/h

Main Armament: 1 x 6'' (152mm) L/15 howitzer
Secondary Armament:
1 x .50cal machine gun
1 x .30cal hull machine gun

Based off of the T69E3, an American tank destroyer in the game Panzer Front, a game I just recently discovered and completely in love with.

T60E3 Howitzer Motor Carriage by TheoComm on DeviantArt (http://theocomm.deviantart.com/art/T60E3-Howitzer-Motor-Carriage-655482230?src=MC_deviation_stack)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick January 06, 2017, 12:39:24 AM
That's interesting! Thanks
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: taiidantomcat January 06, 2017, 04:40:07 AM
(https://c1.staticflickr.com/1/491/19775162784_a7a1abb276_b.jpg)

https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/sets/72157656963867425 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/jetsonsspecial/sets/72157656963867425)


From ARC's silly week. As a fan myasishchev's and of big Russian Weirdness in general I was enamored   :-*
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin January 06, 2017, 10:20:35 AM
USSR response to the B-51 !
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin January 07, 2017, 03:15:35 AM
 :)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke February 03, 2017, 04:00:42 AM
Here are some great images of a 1/32 scale Special Hobby Heinkel He 100 that David Atkin made, inspired by my Marseille He 100 profile. He posted these to my Facebook wall.

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16387221_10208549176394514_7991987800169570424_n.jpg?oh=8052d795c949f1921e35dc96b58432f3&oe=59415B5B)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16473176_10208549176474516_6595080362096529812_n.jpg?oh=0ded6864ddb29a21e026f1dd342abc89&oe=59436B92)

(https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16386953_10208549176434515_6174338144618649280_n.jpg?oh=bda127923f7019616c6e4de77135f19e&oe=5907151C)

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v132/loganov/Profiles/Heinkel%20He%20100/900px/GermanHe100D5.jpg) (http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/f/2013/042/8/9/marseille_s_heinkel_he_100d_4_z_trop__afrika__by_comradeloganov-d5umkyw.jpg)

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=144.msg38318#msg38318 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=144.msg38318#msg38318)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke February 07, 2017, 05:34:49 AM
Here's one from the Missing Lynx forums:

(http://i1286.photobucket.com/albums/a620/drplmmm/new%20dio_zpssprhaemt.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D February 10, 2017, 12:49:24 PM
I recently stumbled across this hybrid Agusta A129B at http://heliweb.forumcommunity.net/?t=57245005 (http://heliweb.forumcommunity.net/?t=57245005)
Frankly I love the concept!!
A few years ago I asked JP Vieira to do me a ramdition of a hybrid Agusta A129 Mangusta forward fuselage matted to a Westland Lynx 3 fuselage, power plant and rotor system, to create a Westernized 'Hind'
To my delight, VP come up with his great 'Panther' concept!

My latest interest in the notion of an Australian Army adoption of the A129 International and the A129/139 LBH as the winner for the Australian Army's 'Air87' competition in my Alternative ADF ORBAT has been further stimulated by this A129B profile!!
Although the rear cabin doors look somewhat out of proportion IMO.


M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine February 18, 2017, 10:00:56 PM
Kees Kuyper shared some images of his What-If Revell 1/72 Jet-Otter (Jotter?)at the Aircraft Resource Center (http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm) that looks quite convincing with ARCAIR livery.  Click on html or the thumbnail image to view additional images at ARC. 

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm)

: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine February 18, 2017, 10:07:46 PM
Another interesting kit bash found at Aircraft Resource Center right now is this F-16 with twin tails and wings and 2D exhaust parts from an F-22 (http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14273-F-16-Zen4130/00.shtm) that looks very nice.  Click on html or the thumbnail image to view additional images of this interesting what-if at ARC.

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14273-F-16-Zen4130/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14273-F-16-Zen4130/00.shtm) 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 February 19, 2017, 12:03:11 AM
Kees Kuyper shared some images of his What-If Revell 1/72 Jet-Otter (Jotter?)at the Aircraft Resource Center ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm[/url]) that looks quite convincing with ARCAIR livery.  Click on html or the thumbnail image to view additional images at ARC. 

([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/01m.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm[/url])


Now I like that idea  :) :) :)

I get to see quite a few of the Viking Twin-Otters these days, Viking has a hanger at the south end of YYC (Calgary International) where I work.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ericr February 19, 2017, 05:04:23 AM
Kees Kuyper shared some images of his What-If Revell 1/72 Jet-Otter (Jotter?)at the Aircraft Resource Center ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm[/url]) that looks quite convincing with ARCAIR livery.  Click on html or the thumbnail image to view additional images at ARC. 

([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/01m.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.arcair.com/Gal15/14201-14300/gal14280-Otter-Kuyper/00.shtm[/url])


Now I like that idea  :) :) :)

I get to see quite a few of the Viking Twin-Otters these days, Viking has a hanger at the south end of YYC (Calgary International) where I work.


Beautiful ! I like kit-bashing Twin Otters, and this one is very nice indeed !

: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: taiidantomcat March 25, 2017, 04:27:43 AM
(http://www.airfighters.com/profiles/A-7/A-7D_4_TFW_1.jpg)

http://www.airfighters.com/page.php?id=141 (http://www.airfighters.com/page.php?id=141)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 24, 2017, 06:51:19 AM
Some from Ebay (all are for sale if you want them):

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/on0AAOSwTM5Y2wE3/s-l1600.jpg)
(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/CFAAAOSwuLZY2wOX/s-l1600.jpg)

More details (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BUILT-1-48-FREEDOM-MODELS-F-20A-TIGERSHARK-WHAT-IF-RAAF-76-SQUADRON-1980s-/382020837752?hash=item58f2376178:g:on0AAOSwTM5Y2wE3)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZPsAAOSw241YVeAn/s-l1600.jpg)

More details (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BUILT-1-48-REVELL-F-104G-WHAT-IF-RAAF-No-2-OPERATIONAL-CONVERSION-UNIT-/182534948772?hash=item2a7fee47a4:g:ZPsAAOSw241YVeAn)

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/7rkAAOSwB-1Yrl7U/s-l1600.jpg)

More details (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/prebuilt-1-48-dagger-with-argentine-markings-what-if-/292066500896?hash=item4400852120:g:7rkAAOSwB-1Yrl7U)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Volkodav April 24, 2017, 03:20:34 PM
I recently stumbled across this hybrid Agusta A129B at [url]http://heliweb.forumcommunity.net/?t=57245005[/url] ([url]http://heliweb.forumcommunity.net/?t=57245005[/url])
Frankly I love the concept!!
A few years ago I asked JP Vieira to do me a ramdition of a hybrid Agusta A129 Mangusta forward fuselage matted to a Westland Lynx 3 fuselage, power plant and rotor system, to create a Westernized 'Hind'
To my delight, VP come up with his great 'Panther' concept!

My latest interest in the notion of an Australian Army adoption of the A129 International and the A129/139 LBH as the winner for the Australian Army's 'Air87' competition in my Alternative ADF ORBAT has been further stimulated by this A129B profile!!
Although the rear cabin doors look somewhat out of proportion IMO.


M.A.D


I have always thought the Mangusta and Lynx would have been a good combination for the ADF with 1 Aviation Regiment operating a US Army type mix of 9 scouts/gunships and 6 support/utility helos per squadron. 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Volkodav April 24, 2017, 03:21:36 PM
Love that Tigershark!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D April 27, 2017, 07:13:57 PM
Not necessary 'What If', but rather a studied, but not built carrier-based ASW/MP variant of the Grumman E-2 Hawkeye:

It States: "That carrier in the first image looks like one of the CVV designs. Which may suggest that this Hawkeye offshoot was primarily aimed at the CVV program for use as a low cost ASW platform."
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 28, 2017, 02:12:24 AM
I am vindicated!  Below is the SE-2A that I invented for my Greater Australia  (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=3.0)story:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/SE-2RANTimor.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/SE-2RANFalkland.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Greater%20Australia/SE-2RANIndonesia.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D April 29, 2017, 08:49:36 PM
Actually, I thought of Coops profiles, when I found this artwork Greg  ;)

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Logan Hartke May 08, 2017, 08:39:42 AM
Another one from DeviantArt.

Autoblinde SOMUA S35bis by Medjoeon on DeviantArt (http://medjoe.deviantart.com/art/Autoblinde-SOMUA-S35bis-679376070)

(http://pre00.deviantart.net/6b8f/th/pre/i/2017/127/e/0/autoblinde_somua_s35bis_by_medjoe-db8hdxi.jpg)

The Autoblinde SOMUA S35bis was a rival to the AMX 40bis program, both companies focused on filling the order for a highly mobile scout vehicle, inspired by the Wehrmacht's Sdkfz 234. A mid-war project, it aimed to integrate the Büssing-NAG suspension used on the Sdkfz 231/232/234 series of reconnaissance vehicles to a lightened S35 hull and turret, the S35bis served as a light reconnaissance vehicle to support the French Army's cavalry tanks on the field.  Produced in limited numbers, there were too few of them equipping French divisions in 1940 during the Battle of France, and consequently they were relegated to training and reserve units, seeing some more action during the liberation of France several years later. This particular vehicle bears the red diamond, used for the 3rd company, 3rd platoon cavalry tanks, and the number 27 was in the range of numbers used for cavalry tanks such as its tracked counterpart.

The experience gained by the French designers in this program would go on to consolidate their knowledge, culminating into the Panhard and EBR wheeled tank designs of post-war France.

1st half of the project aimed at exploring WW2 French AFV design with a German inspiration. Also, now that I have some more free time I am able to devote more time to my works :)

Autoblinde SOMUA S35bis by Medjoeon on DeviantArt (http://medjoe.deviantart.com/art/Autoblinde-SOMUA-S35bis-679376070)

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: AXOR June 11, 2017, 02:48:09 AM
Some good inspiration for ericr

(http://pre06.deviantart.net/c1c5/th/pre/f/2016/198/0/7/ki_46_1500px_by_hydrothrax-daacten.jpg)

(http://orig07.deviantart.net/48c0/f/2016/304/c/a/twin_landing_by_hydrothrax-damvy8t.jpg)

source http://hydrothrax.deviantart.com/gallery/ (http://hydrothrax.deviantart.com/gallery/)


: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 11, 2017, 03:28:04 AM
Love the lower one.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine June 14, 2017, 11:50:09 AM
1/48 scratch-built Air-Launch Cruise Missile “SHARUR” created by P.B. on 20170613 (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal15/14301-14400/gal14383-SHARUR-PB/00.shtm)

Click on html above or the thumbnail image below to view the article at The Aircraft Resource Center.

(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal15/14301-14400/gal14383-SHARUR-PB/06t.jpg) (http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal15/14301-14400/gal14383-SHARUR-PB/00.shtm)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin June 14, 2017, 12:25:22 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v3juj-6Y9yI/WT_vgVm4n1I/AAAAAAABbZc/qezXUoNno5YFLGv2QbL9C25lsoYcgd_jACLcB/s1600/militarytopics_13_6_2017_1_55_48_400.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ericr June 14, 2017, 03:18:38 PM
Some good inspiration for ericr




thanks for the link !
inspiring indeed ...
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine July 14, 2017, 03:12:08 AM
A site full of what-if subjects called FreakModeling located in Spain.  Link to main page: http://www.freakmodeling.com/index.php/en (http://www.freakmodeling.com/index.php/en)

Sample of the work found in the banner for the page showing an SdKfZ 234 with the turret of a Panhard EBR that looks quite fetching.
(http://www.freakmodeling.com/images/banners/SUPERPUMA%20BANNER.jpg) (http://)
(Image source: FreakModeling.com (http://www.freakmodeling.com/index.php/en))
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 06, 2017, 03:56:43 AM
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/600x315/01/26/76/012676dc11451727a5fe0c68746d2609.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper August 08, 2017, 08:27:47 AM
Via Facebook.

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20621302_10155723330188939_7366913278640938590_n.jpg?oh=0f42b6a137c61bc60a4034c5d1d25c65&oe=5A2490C2)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 12, 2017, 06:00:29 AM
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/20116854_1839437619706856_6263859964886682626_o.jpg?oh=42fa12707c357893bbba866528826442&oe=5A200F4F)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin August 13, 2017, 05:52:36 AM
From a couple of years ago:

(http://www.mardona.org/gallery/d/10661-2/DSCF6976.JPG)
(http://www.mardona.org/gallery/d/10666-2/DSCF6977.JPG)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ysi_maniac August 30, 2017, 02:02:46 PM
http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/205514-148-phantom-single-engine-single-seat/& (http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?/topic/205514-148-phantom-single-engine-single-seat/&)

I love everything on this thread except th nose of last model.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D September 10, 2017, 07:33:23 PM
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-v3juj-6Y9yI/WT_vgVm4n1I/AAAAAAABbZc/qezXUoNno5YFLGv2QbL9C25lsoYcgd_jACLcB/s1600/militarytopics_13_6_2017_1_55_48_400.jpg)

That Northrop A-9 is cool GTX!!

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D September 24, 2017, 02:04:29 PM
This is pretty cool - A ELINT derivative of the Martin P6M SeaMaster, labelled 'EP-6D'

(Source: https://adamrehorn.wordpress.com/model-kits/planes/box-scale-ep-6d-seamaster/)


M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 02, 2017, 04:48:40 AM
More details (http://www.tinami.com/view/710994)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 02, 2017, 04:49:10 AM
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/12645218_457489214458964_659944977548815863_n.jpg?oh=9be0fb4f7f2e86c6bb282ca3d2f7ee76&oe=5A887903)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: AXOR October 02, 2017, 07:35:36 AM
More details ([url]http://www.tinami.com/view/710994[/url])


Waaaw that's absolutely awesome !!!
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: AXOR October 17, 2017, 03:32:56 AM
(http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137139)

(http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137140)

(http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137143)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: elmayerle October 17, 2017, 06:47:32 AM
([url]http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137139[/url])

([url]http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137140[/url])

([url]http://www.cartula.ro/forum/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_rel_module=post&attach_id=137143[/url])

I could definitely see that as a "field expedient" product when deep in a combat zone.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin October 18, 2017, 01:32:39 AM
Looks a bit like some of the creations seen in Syria or Libya.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper November 16, 2017, 08:13:53 AM
Found these on the Facebook 'Project Cancelled SIG.' ('EoS.' & 'CVA.01) alt. modelling and discussion Group

Telford 2017. Photos by Geoff Baker

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23551263_10155036561162286_3351252134608474878_o.jpg?oh=ee3083201afe54818ada7cab4ea32300&oe=5A98D6BE)

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23511498_10155036561157286_737942696451851405_o.jpg?oh=402299c4d5ca488454cd191d0b32f159&oe=5AA3704E)

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/23550150_10155036564507286_9039550833695403052_o.jpg?oh=94e8f2d7d18c08ae435a7fd76bde99e0&oe=5A8F3B50)
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: finsrin November 16, 2017, 08:51:05 AM
Two pusher props and one jet on red cloth in second picture are particularly interesting.
Swing wing Lightnings too.
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: Frank3k November 16, 2017, 02:00:31 PM
I could definitely see that as a "field expedient" product when deep in a combat zone.

The Zil-157 was used as a Katyusha launcher, so a pair of UB-32s would not be unreasonable/unrealistic.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 November 16, 2017, 10:46:40 PM
Two pusher props and one jet on red cloth in second picture are particularly interesting.
Swing wing Lightnings too.

You can find most of the aircraft shown in the 'British Secret Projects' books and the 'Project Cancelled' book. Geoff only builds these one-offs or paper studies.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper February 06, 2018, 09:04:19 PM
From Facebook:

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/27657549_10204113937165992_5164521171454626057_n.jpg?oh=3ffef80f1f039330e853bcfde45ce02f&oe=5B160962)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 February 06, 2018, 09:48:43 PM
Nice find  :smiley:

Still working on mine though, it got stalled while I figure out the wing to fuselage connection. This is because I have a bigger version of it I'm planning (that's bigger fuselage than bigger scale) and it will have different engine configuration so need to know what the original is first.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin February 07, 2018, 02:23:04 AM
 :smiley:
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kim margosein February 09, 2018, 11:39:25 AM
Kitnut=  I know you've been working on it seemingly since the Major administration, so forgive me if this is a repeat.  I look forward to doing this some day myself.  However, I think the wing shape would parallel the Vulcan, and the straight delta wouldn't make it into production.   Myself, I think I'll use a C-135 fuselage for mine.   It's on the build list for ohh, the year 2525.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime February 10, 2018, 03:54:23 AM
Have we seen this before?
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 February 10, 2018, 10:00:48 AM
Kitnut=  I know you've been working on it seemingly since the Major administration, so forgive me if this is a repeat.  I look forward to doing this some day myself.  However, I think the wing shape would parallel the Vulcan, and the straight delta wouldn't make it into production.   Myself, I think I'll use a C-135 fuselage for mine.   It's on the build list for ohh, the year 2525.

Kim, I had actually been in touch with a guy who's name was Mike Meehan. I found him through the Nevill Shute website, but interestingly he actually worked on the brochure for the Avro Atlantic. He told me he did many of the drawings in it as he worked in the drafting office at Avro. He told me that had the Atlantic gone into production it would probably have had the same wing developments the Vulcan B.1 had, which is the slight kink to the leading edge as I have it on my models. You have to keep in mind that the Atlantic was designed and proposed before the Vulcan prototype ever flew. In my back story I'm saying Avro Canada built them for the RAF and eventually the RCAF.  The C-135 fuselage cross section is all wrong for an Atlantic, which was completely round at 12'-6" diameter.

Mike Meehan sent me this 3-View of it which he said was the last evolution of the design (he knew because he drew it [top pic])

I have in the planning stage a different version which will have a much bigger diameter fuselage, I'll use the wings from a Vulcan B.2 for that though and it will have different engines (looking at hi-bypass turbofans) Middle pics here shows what fuselage I'll use as a donar (the middle photo shows that the Vulcan wing chord fit's the 767 wing chord almost perfectly). My personal take on it is Avro should have gone with the bigger diameter fuselage like Handley Page did with their design (bottom pic)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin February 11, 2018, 03:30:19 AM
Have we seen this before?

First time for me.  Cool! Needs to be modelled in 3D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kim margosein February 11, 2018, 12:05:01 PM
Thanks for the information.  This puts the fuselage width slightly more than the 707.  However, I have a spare 135 fuselage.   I was thinking of PVC pipe, but the 2 inch pipe is actualy 2 3/8 inches.  Like I said, this project is well down the road.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat February 11, 2018, 04:09:38 PM
Have we seen this before?

([url]http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1902.0;attach=17746;image[/url])


First time for me.  Cool! Needs to be modelled in 3D


Agreed!
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: finsrin February 11, 2018, 05:29:07 PM
Agreed again !
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime February 11, 2018, 05:34:55 PM
Have we seen this before?

...

First time for me.  Cool! Needs to be modelled in 3D

Agreed!
The guy used to post lots and lots of artwork - but then got upset when people started selling R/C planes based on them, but refused to  mention that they were based on his originals. He still has some on twitter and facebook, and you can find some searching for Mirco Pecorari or mcpecos.

He is also somewhat famous for creating colour schemes for full-size aircraft, especially aerobatic ones.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: bluedonkey99 February 23, 2018, 03:58:49 PM
One for Tophe!

Whilst looking for warmish places to go on holiday, I initially mistook this Airbase for the International Airport.
Upon doing so its always interesting to see which military types are deployed - and it offered up some surprises that the Portuguese have been collaborating with Tophe.

In so much as two dual fuselage aircraft and a mistel.....


http://www.emfa.pt/www/mobile/unidade-19-base-aerea-n-6 (http://www.emfa.pt/www/mobile/unidade-19-base-aerea-n-6)
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Estruturas+BA6/@38.7125618,-9.0265422,1206m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd193717dc4df74d:0x5b6f33c0b078b76a!8m2!3d38.6995299!4d-9.0444785 (https://www.google.co.uk/maps/place/Estruturas+BA6/@38.7125618,-9.0265422,1206m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0xd193717dc4df74d:0x5b6f33c0b078b76a!8m2!3d38.6995299!4d-9.0444785)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ericr February 23, 2018, 04:59:57 PM

In so much as two dual fuselage aircraft and a mistel.....



 ;D ;D ;D
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: GTX_Admin February 24, 2018, 03:19:46 AM
Damn!  That base was supposed to be kept Top Secret! ;D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper March 14, 2018, 11:22:25 PM
Posted on Facebook.

(https://scontent.fxds1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/21728856_1108029522666190_13892636273841389_o.jpg?oh=635048fedadc0852e96054637b8aa32a&oe=5B3A4DCC)

Builder: John Leidel
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 03, 2018, 04:27:50 AM
Cool! :smiley:
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin April 03, 2018, 04:28:14 AM
(http://cs.finescale.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/1000x0/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/13-49-00-00-01-58-09-68/01.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine April 03, 2018, 04:56:59 AM
Raiders of the Lost Shopping Cart?   ;)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D April 13, 2018, 11:19:17 AM
Ok, I stumbled across this nice piece of work - both model and backstory, whilst researching between the Dassault/Dornier Alpha Jet or British Aerospace Hawk for my 'Alternative ADF ORBAT'.......

Dornier Alpha Jet C

by Dizzyfugu
https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7047788281 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/dizzyfugu/7047788281)

Even though the Alpha Jet A was suitable in the ground attack role and had even been tested in aerial combat against helicopters in 1979, the German Luftwaffe decided in the mid-80ies that – facing the Cold War threat from the east – a more powerful but still economic plane for the close attack role, esp. against hardened ground targets and attack helicopters like the Mi-24 would be needed. Even though such "Alternate Close Support" versions of the Alpha Jet were available at that time, even though these were modified two-seaters. Such planes were bought by Cameroon and Egypt, but from the German Luftwaffe a specialized, more capable plane with a higher strike and survival potential was requested.
In 1986, Dornier developed a respective specialized version, called the Alpha Jet C (for "combat"). This plane was heavily modified, optimized for the ground attack role. It featured a new, single-seated nose section with an armoured cockpit in a much higher position than on the original two-seater. The Alpha jet C version's prominent, pointed nose quickly gave it among its test pilots the nickname "Nasenbär" (Coati).
The new space was used for avionics and an internal Oerlikon 35mm cannon – a variant of the same cannon used in the Gepard anti aircraft tank, firing armour piercing shells with a muzzle velocity of 1,440 m/s (4,700 ft/s) and a range of 5.500m. Avionics includecd SAGEM ULISS 81 INS, a Thomson-CSF VE-110 HUD, a TMV630 laser rangefinder in a modified nose and a TRT AHV 9 radio altimeter, with all avionics linked through a digital databus.
New wings were developed, with a thicker profile and less sweep, and non-jettisonable wing tip tanks as well as two more weapon hardpoints (for a total of six, plus one under the fuselage) added. The landing gear was reinforced for a higher TOW and operation on improvised runways. Fuselage and tail externally looked much the same as the original Alpha Jet A, but internally most structures were reinforced and technical modules placed in new positions.
The C version was from the start powered by two more powerful Larzac 04-C20 turbofans which would also be used in an update for the Luftwaffe’s Alpha Jet As. The hydraulic system was doubled, so that both engines could run separately, and kevlar and titanium armour plating added to vital areas around the lower hull. 
The first prototype 98+52 made its maiden flight at Friedrichshafen on 1st of June 1988. It was officially allocated to the JaboG 43 in Oldenburg, but actually spent almost all the time at the Luftwaffe’s Waffentechnische Dienststelle (Flight test center) WTD 61 in Manching near Munich, where it underwent a thorough testing program. More than once the prototype was transferred to Beja, Portugal, for weapon tests and training, as well as direct comparison with the standard Alpha Jet A and other NATO planes. A second airframe was built in 1987 but only used for static tests, system integration and finally damage resilience tests, after which it was written off and scrapped.
While the Alpha Jet C showed high agility at low level and a high survival potential in a hostile battlefield environment, the prototype remained a one-off. In the end, the German Luftwaffe did not want to add another type to its arsenal, despite its similarity with the standard Alpha Jet. Export chances for such a specialized, yet light aircraft were considered as low, since modified Alpha Jet versions were already available and other planes like the AMX or BAe Hawk offered more versatility, and were simply more up to date.
Hence, further development was stopped in September 1989, also under the influence of political changes and the breakdown of the Eastern Block. Even though 98+52 was kept at Manching as a test aircraft for various tasks, the plane was eventually lost in a crash due to hydraulic failure on 3rd of March 1993 – the pilot escaped safely, but 98+52 totally written off.


General characteristics:
Crew: 1
Length: 12.60 m (41 ft 4 in)
Wingspan: 10.73 m (35 ft 2 1/2 in)
Height: 4.24 m (13 ft 11 in)
Wing area: 213.7 ft² (19.85 m²)
Airfoil: NACA 23015 (modified) at root, NACA 4412 (modified) at tip
Empty weight: 3.680 kg (8.105 lbs)
Loaded weight: 5.900 kg (13.000 lbs)
Max. takeoff weight: 8.200 kg (18.060 lbs)
Powerplant: 2 × SNECMA Turbomeca Larzac 04-C20 turbofans, 14,12 kN (3.176 lbs) each
 
Performance
Maximum speed: 860 km/h (465 knots, 536 mph)
Stall speed: 167 km/h (90 knots, 104 mph) (flaps and undercarriage down)
Combat radius: 610 km (329 nmi, 379 mi) lo-lo-lo profile, w. underwing weapons incl. two drop tanks
Ferry range: 2,940 km (1,586 nmi, 1,827 mi)
Service ceiling: 14,630 m (48,000 ft)
Rate of climb: 57 m/s (11,220 ft/min)
 
Armament
1× 35 mm (1.38 in) Oerlikon KDA cannon w/150 rds under the lower forward fuselage, offset to starport side.
Seven hardpoints (one under fuselage, three under each wing) for a total external load of up to 3.085 kg (6.800 lbs), including AGM-65 Maverick, Matra rocket pods with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets each, a variety of bombs (such as the Hunting BL755 cluster bombs) or Drop tanks for extended range, and AIM-9 Sidewinder or ASRAAM for self-defence

Well done Dizzyfugu!


M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: M.A.D April 13, 2018, 11:20:37 AM
([url]http://cs.finescale.com/resized-image.ashx/__size/1000x0/__key/telligent-evolution-components-attachments/13-49-00-00-01-58-09-68/01.jpg[/url])


Well volks me Greg, that's a neat creation!  ;D

M.A.D
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: ysi_maniac September 14, 2018, 12:01:56 PM
Found while googling. Is this a full whiff or is inspired on a RW project?

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/WRK/Me109_262.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/WRK/Me109_262.jpg.html)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: The Big Gimper September 14, 2018, 06:41:34 PM
I like this.  But the Me-262 has a triangular shaped fuselage which could be a problem. Will investigate.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Twiddle September 24, 2018, 05:57:19 PM
From Facebook - Gold Reef Scale Modellers group

Done by Peter Molnar

(https://i.imgur.com/q50pYFg.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/HgLCzKn.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/65Nq7om.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/0xVqdYc.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/SyahXxe.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/kcNSyKY.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine October 23, 2018, 04:28:49 AM
A rather interesting what-if wheeled fighting vehicle found at Modellversium.De (http://www.modellversium.de):

(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/9/3/3/13933-65-t300.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/22-militaer-fahrzeuge/13933-alacr%C3%A1n-eigenbau.html)
The 'Alacrán' built by Marcos Felipe (1:35th scale) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/22-militaer-fahrzeuge/13933-alacr%C3%A1n-eigenbau.html)
Click on html or thumbnail to see more of this model. 
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: Story December 08, 2018, 10:36:25 PM
This smells of being French. Attendez (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chasseurs_Alpins)

From February 1938.

(https://pulpcovers.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/Modern-Mechanix-February-1938-600x883.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: elmayerle December 21, 2018, 10:18:48 AM
How the heck do you steer that thing?  It looks like a snowmobile on steroids but without the front skis.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Frank3k December 21, 2018, 11:49:42 AM
Probably by twisting the front of the track, like some of the Russians BT tanks did.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kitnut617 December 21, 2018, 10:22:58 PM
Just lean it to the left or right I think.

Like you would do with this.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine February 27, 2019, 02:28:14 PM
Found at the ARC:

(http://www.arcair.com/Gal16/15101-16200/gal15112-F-106-S/01m.jpg) (http://www.arcair.com/Gal16/15101-16200/gal15112-F-106-S/00.shtm)
1/48th scale What-If F-106F Block 70 built by Scott S. aka Desertpilot (http://www.arcair.com/Gal16/15101-16200/gal15112-F-106-S/00.shtm)
Click on image or link to view the article at ARC
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin March 02, 2019, 01:47:11 AM
(http://www.ipms-farnborough.co.uk/gallery/d/23768-2/DSC_2620.jpg)

By James Carr
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Jeffry Fontaine April 11, 2019, 12:19:38 AM
From Modelversium.de today(20190410) Click on thumbnail or html to view at Modelversium.de (http://www.modellversium.de/) :

(http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/bilder/2/6/1/14261-82-t300.jpg) (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/22-militaer-fahrzeuge/14261-m47-update-eigenbau.html)

What-If/WHIF 1:35th scale M47 Patton built by Marcos Felipe (http://www.modellversium.de/galerie/22-militaer-fahrzeuge/14261-m47-update-eigenbau.html)

A very much modified M47 from the looks of it. 
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat April 11, 2019, 12:57:45 AM
Google Translation of Marcos' spiel:

:  Marcos Felipe from Modelversium.de via Google Translate
Today I show you an Italeri M47, which I built about five years ago and which has now undergone an overhaul. Pan, chassis and chains remained unchanged. I have redesigned the upper and rear sides of the tub and above all the tower. In addition there was an additional armor on both sides. Everything was again made of cardboard, plastic plates, parts of pens and ink rollers. This time I built the smoke cups out of parts of an old telephone. The entire vehicle was first painted in gray and then aged with ink, pastels and acrylic paints.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: kerick April 11, 2019, 07:47:16 AM
Nice work! Can’t believe there is an M-47 under there.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: finsrin April 13, 2019, 04:50:53 PM
Nice work! Can’t believe there is an M-47 under there.

Me too.
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin May 15, 2019, 01:47:25 AM
From 58th Shizuoka Hobby Show:

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JbOnID7vfyo/XNk_q9Um-uI/AAAAAAACpNs/StruALhCFL8Av4yKehUwrVsY0Zfki8jZACLcBGAs/s1600/58th%2BShizuoka%2BHobby%2BShow%2B2019%2BJapan%2B%252863%2529.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin May 15, 2019, 01:55:52 AM
Another:

(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UNf5_8yZaqY/XNk_FJRgsSI/AAAAAAACpE4/CX5gBXbKhJgjgLD7T-nYd2tKqHvNQoS0QCLcBGAs/s1600/58th%2BShizuoka%2BHobby%2BShow%2B2019%2BJapan%2B%2528152%2529.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: Old Wombat May 15, 2019, 09:08:08 AM
I like them! 8) :smiley:
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: perttime May 19, 2019, 12:21:35 AM
Edward Lodewijk (Eddie) Van Halen might be a familiar name for those who follow(ed) rock music, especially in 1980s. A pretty handy guy with a guitar and played some famous solos. He started modifying his Stratocaster guitars because none was quite what he wanted, out of the box. So he made what became known as the "Frankenstein" guitar, or Frankenstrat.

On the Telecaster Discussion Page Reissue forum (tdpri.com), member fasteddie455 has just released his What-If version, based on the premise that Eddie Van Halen took his screwdrivers, soldering iron, tape and paint to a Telecaster guitar, instead ( http://www.tdpri.com/threads/copy-of-eddie-van-halens-tele.950801/ (http://www.tdpri.com/threads/copy-of-eddie-van-halens-tele.950801/) ). The guitar is reproduced with appropriate weathering (termed relicing in guitar circles), down to dings, scratches and some burn marks.

For reference: a real iteration of the Frankenstrat:

(https://www.premierguitar.com/ext/resources/images/content/2014-10/Blogs/Frankenstein_WEB.jpg)

fasteddie455's Frankentele:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47822960892_cf7e67512b_c.jpg)

A magazine cover that proves the Frankentele is real:

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47822960572_776b451bf9_c.jpg)
: Re: WHIF's found on internet
: GTX_Admin May 19, 2019, 02:40:58 AM
Random online find:

(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57716577_2314275575561440_578266305015054336_n.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=bac89a7fd4a98e07421b5810ce045499&oe=5D56B755)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/57936119_2314275612228103_8830024024055611392_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=72f35890d02dcd3648940e727c90cb77&oe=5D5BF838)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/58420215_2314275635561434_4901005787263926272_n.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=ffe3e7b33b188a0a41781edc04ba9665&oe=5D622315)