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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => : Feldmarschall Zod June 24, 2012, 08:04:28 AM

: Halftracks
: Feldmarschall Zod June 24, 2012, 08:04:28 AM
I was able to stop by The Heartland Military Vehicle Museum in Lexington,Nebraska today. Took a lot of pix. This one I thought was neat. An old American halftrack with a snowplow.The musuem did not have it long.
 (http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/Zodster_2006/cht1.jpg)

The fuel tank and exhaust.
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/Zodster_2006/cht4.jpg)
(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/Zodster_2006/cht2.jpg)

(http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h231/Zodster_2006/cht5.jpg)
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: GTX_Admin June 24, 2012, 08:07:40 AM
Interesting find.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif June 24, 2012, 09:31:30 AM
are we limited to US Mil. halftracks ?  I have a few pics of Ford Model-T ½-tracks.

Fire-engines ...
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: abtex June 24, 2012, 10:47:10 PM
are we limited to US Mil. halftracks ?  I have a few pics of Ford Model-T ½-tracks.
Will you post please.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif June 25, 2012, 06:34:42 AM
Ford Model-T tracks were an after-market accessory available in the 1910s.  This vehicle is one of several (sedan & commercial styles) that have been restored.  There is also a short 3-part video on the net (part of the Lombard ½-track logging site).

Ok, so my Double-T is an articulated full-track not a ½-trak :icon_nif:

Not to mention all the Russian (like the Tudor sedan below) & Citroen civil versions ....
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Feldmarschall Zod June 25, 2012, 08:14:58 AM
Raafif
Thanks for posting those pix. I grew up not too far from Philadelphia. I never knew their fire dept. used half tracks. 8)
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif June 25, 2012, 08:51:23 AM
newer 2012 vids of Model-T-snow, a 2½min & two 7+mins - watch the short one first.
http://antiquetrucksandtractors.wetpaint.com/videos (http://antiquetrucksandtractors.wetpaint.com/videos)

2011 vids of Model-T-snow & Lombard logging ½-track.
http://antiquetrucksandtractors.wetpaint.com/videos?offset=20&maxResults=20 (http://antiquetrucksandtractors.wetpaint.com/videos?offset=20&maxResults=20)

If you have RealPlayer you can download them for keeps.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Alvis 3.1 June 25, 2012, 09:21:11 AM
Oh, fudge-bunnies! Here i was slowly working on a Firetruck halftrack, and now I see it's a real world reality? Nuts!

 :icon_crap:

Alvis 3.1
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif June 25, 2012, 04:57:03 PM
Oh, fudge-bunnies! Here i was slowly working on a Firetruck halftrack, and now I see it's a real world reality? Nuts!
 :icon_crap:
Alvis 3.1

You could always do a beach-rescue one (winch on front) with surfboard ... oh, no that's been done in RL too :icon_crap: :icon_crap:

Looks like there are no alternatives to whiff -- or are there  ;)
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Logan Hartke June 26, 2012, 02:11:37 AM
I love halftracks SO much!  That snowplow is awesome.

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Jacques Deguerre June 27, 2012, 09:04:59 AM
Man, I'm loving these repurposed halftracks. The conversions for the early cars are very cool too. Come to think of it, I have a couple Revell '32 Ford Tudor sedans in the kit stash. Hmmm....
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif July 03, 2012, 01:48:13 PM
Half-track aircraft ......

        Yanks & Ruskis tried them ......
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: kitnut617 July 03, 2012, 08:27:32 PM
Half-track aircraft ......

        Yanks & Ruskis tried them ......


I believe that was the test aircraft for the system that ended up on the B-36.  There's an aftermarket company called 'clicktodetail' that makes a very nice resin conversion to convert the 1/72 kit.

http://www.click2detail.com/products-details.php?pro_id=174 (http://www.click2detail.com/products-details.php?pro_id=174)
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif July 15, 2012, 07:56:49 AM
half-track still in (private) service .... suitably updated with new cab.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Feldmarschall Zod July 15, 2012, 08:19:29 AM
half-track still in (private) service .... suitably updated with new cab.

That is cool. I wonder how much the cab and chassis was modified.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: Jacques Deguerre July 15, 2012, 09:36:42 AM
I recognize the front wheels as a heavy duty (maybe GM?) wheel I've seen on a lot of Chevy/GMC trucks. I'm guessing they used GM parts like the engine, transmission, axles/differentials, etc. to rebuild this halftrack but I wonder what they did to the frame.
: Re: Halftrack snowplow
: raafif August 30, 2012, 01:35:13 PM
a few more ....

top two are Iranian conversions

bottom one is Mad-Max cool :o
: Halftracks
: dy031101 November 25, 2015, 12:52:15 AM
Finally found pictures of the long-rumoured Iranian halftrack design here (http://www.military-today.com/apc/iranian_halftrack.htm).

I don't know.  It seems to me that Iranian engineers took some inspirations from Chinese armoured car designs.
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin November 25, 2015, 02:50:06 AM
 :)
: Re: Halftracks
: Logan Hartke November 25, 2015, 04:02:01 AM
That's awesome. I love halftracks. It reminds me a bit of the Chilean Cardoen BMS-1 Alacrán.

(http://www.military-today.com/apc/alacran_l2.jpg)

As impractical as the concept might be, I love the idea of a modern halftrack. I saw this recently, too.

(http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/images/centaur/centaurbrochureinside.jpg)

Proposed variants of the Land Rover Centaur halftrack, including some armored ones.

http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/en/centaur-half-track (http://www.lr-mad.co.uk/en/centaur-half-track)

Thanks,

Logan
: Re: Halftracks
: Gingie November 26, 2015, 07:11:39 AM
Cool! I see what looks to be a Mowag front end kinda-sorta on that Chilean halftrack!
: Re: Halftracks
: raafif January 07, 2016, 07:50:30 AM
I'l add my favourite ..... V.W. Typ-155 ...... I have over a dozen photos of these prototypes supplied to me by Porsche when I wrote the history for them.

In one biography for Ferry Porsche the author claimed that a Schwimmwagen was also used in the Typ-155 trials - hinting that it was also a half-track.
Unfortunately he got it wrong - the Schwimm had drum extensions on the wheels not tracks ....... or did it ??  ;)
: Re: Halftracks
: raafif January 07, 2016, 12:17:02 PM
cut a half-track down to a full-track ?
APC based on a SdKfz-251 & SP gun on a Famo SdKfz-9 :D
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin January 08, 2016, 02:37:44 AM
I'l add my favourite ..... V.W. Typ-155 ...... I have over a dozen photos of these prototypes supplied to me by Porsche when I wrote the history for them.

In one biography for Ferry Porsche the author claimed that a Schwimmwagen was also used in the Typ-155 trials - hinting that it was also a half-track.
Unfortunately he got it wrong - the Schwimm had drum extensions on the wheels not tracks ....... or did it ??  ;)


One can get a number of kits/conversions for these:

(http://wpk-plastickits.eu/_obchody/plastikovemodely.shop5.cz/prilohy/3/vw-typ-155-schneeraupe-ausf-iii-plastikovy-model-m-0.jpg.big.jpg)(http://images.auctionhelper.com/images/10343//KORA/C3503A.jpg)(http://www.leadwarrior.com/images/L35203-1.jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: raafif January 08, 2016, 03:37:41 AM
I have the Leadwarrior conversion .... BEAUTIFUL !  Very finely cast resin that used my research :)

The Kora 1/35th version is a bit rough & has PE tracks.
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf January 08, 2016, 05:06:20 AM
The 'half a 251' is reminiscent of the RA Dragons from the '20s-'30s.  ;)

(http://media.iwm.org.uk/iwm/mediaLib/55/media-55258/large.jpg)

: Re: Halftracks
: raafif January 08, 2016, 06:58:04 AM
Steyr half-track below seems to be a private conversion - note the skis front & rear .... and the massive spuds on the track links !!

Opel Kapitan with crawler-tracks (NSU Kettenrad parts), 1942. This car was part of a project by the WaffenAMT to improve traction of light vehicles in sand & snow - it seems that during the war, Stock Motorpflug AG Berlin were building NSU Kettenrads for the army & took part in the project.  Stock made motorcycles in Berlin until 1932 & are still in business in Heidelberg, Germany.
: Re: Halftracks
: kitnut617 January 08, 2016, 09:37:45 PM

One can get a number of kits/conversions for these:



You could, in theory, make any of these half tracks

http://www.americantracktruck.com/index.php?page=videos-pictures (http://www.americantracktruck.com/index.php?page=videos-pictures)
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf January 19, 2016, 07:15:00 AM
US Amphibious projects.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/AMPHIB_HLFTRK_01.png)
July 1942 'Pelican' project, 50' long, 400hp engine, water speed:8 mph, 20,000lbs (empty), 40,000lbs (loaded),
cargo space large enough to carry 6X6 truck. No full size built, but several scale models for tank tests.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/AMPHIB_HLFTRK_02.png)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/AMPHIB_HLFTRK_03.png)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/AMPHIB_HLFTRK_04.png)
May 1944 15 ton project, design and engineering by Sparkman & Stephens, Inc. 37,000 lbs (empty),
30,000lb payload. Continental R975 with Torqmatic transmission. Original design had five road-wheels
per side, later increased to six. 21" wide tracks as developed for T87 105mm howitzer motor carriage.
Front wheels were driven. Twp 28" diameter propellers for water propulsion. 30mph (land), 8mph (water).
Was to be designated T32.

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/AMPHIB_HLFTRK_05.png)
Later revised arrangement with six roadwheels and rear hull profile modified to allow the vehicle to enter
an LST from the water.

- from Hunnicutt, Half-Track.
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf January 20, 2016, 09:16:52 AM
Imperial Japanese Army Type 1 Ho-ha

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/BTS/TYPE-1_01.png)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3a/Type_1_Ho-Ha.jpg)

(http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/photo/japan/apc_ho-ha/ho-ha_5.jpg)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Ho-Ha (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_1_Ho-Ha)

http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/halftracks/japan/apc_ho-ha.htm (http://www.aviarmor.net/tww2/halftracks/japan/apc_ho-ha.htm)
: Re: Halftracks
: Old Wombat January 20, 2016, 10:27:53 AM
I just find the names of the Japanese APC & halftrack too amusing to take them seriously ...... Ho-Ki & Ho-Ha ...... Really? ;D
: Re: Halftracks
: The Big Gimper January 20, 2016, 07:03:11 PM
I just find the names of the Japanese APC & halftrack too amusing to take them seriously ...... Ho-Ki & Ho-Ha ...... Really? ;D

I find this to topic be more Ho-Hum.  :o
: Re: Halftracks
: Logan Hartke January 20, 2016, 11:08:22 PM
That's some really sharp line art.

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf January 21, 2016, 01:34:44 AM
That's some really sharp line art.

Cheers,

Logan

From Tank Power 11: Japanese Armor Vol. 3, Andrzej M Tomczyk, AJ Press 2003
Drawings by Slawomir Zajaczkowski.
The drawing is 7 views of the Ha-ho in 1/35. Several photos of the vehcile are also included

The bok also covers the amphibiious tanks (experimental and production), amphibious tractors,
halftrack, full track APCs and utility tractors and engineering vehicles. Interesting and off the wall
stuff.

 :icon_fsm:
: Re: Halftracks
: kitnut617 March 05, 2016, 08:55:27 AM
This just appeared on our newscast today
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 06, 2016, 02:43:40 AM
Here's one for you:  1925 Alfa Romeo RM Winter Sports Half Track

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/22/35/fc/2235fc264997f9135df34e88fa07ed78.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/4a/7f/5c/4a7f5caede7d08a2ae84fe6240ecf496.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/a2/09/e0/a209e0eaf0392f13dd7a4a170ff3b905.jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 06, 2016, 02:44:12 AM
Then there's this...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/c1/8a/75/c18a756c68c126ccb469ca7b9f1cee43.jpg)
(http://hooniverse.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Fullscreen-capture-6292012-95517-PM.bmp.jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 06, 2016, 02:46:35 AM
A couple more:

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/564x/cf/35/8a/cf358a2190b74571557582c4eaa36d87.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/93/72/6c/93726c7766d497f93d2b13c754b7d5fa.jpg)
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/89/65/22/896522188741b07075a1edf0c266ae70.jpg)
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-e3IP-O2A2FQ/UwY5TO3vlFI/AAAAAAAADxQ/eDCAmURIBzk/s1600/003+Another+initiative.+Half+track+experiment+stretched+imagination..jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 06, 2016, 03:05:06 AM
BTW, I think one of these:

(http://www.militarymodelling.com/sites/1/images/member_albums/42220/bronco1_35buffalo6x6mpcv%20(1).jpg)

Just screams to be given a half track conversion... ;)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 06, 2016, 03:08:02 AM
One more...

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/38/33/1a/38331af725c3c5210e762cab85b0261c.jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf March 06, 2016, 02:24:07 PM
Couple of pages about the Citroen half-tracks:

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille.html (http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille.html)

http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille-2.html (http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/autochenille-2.html)

(http://www.citroenet.org.uk/utilities/autochenille/1976-dc43-autochenille/11.jpg)

(https://deserttravels.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/citroen1922.jpg)

http://www.tbauto.org/cars/citroen_halftrack.htm (http://www.tbauto.org/cars/citroen_halftrack.htm)

"In the 1920s and 1930s Andre Citroen put his marketing expertise to use by sponsoring expeditions meant to show off the marriage of his body design with Kegresse's track system, as well as to demonstrate the ability of a half-track to cross extremely inhospitable land.

The first expedition (1922-1923) involved 12 people crossing the Sahara Desert from Toggourt, Algeria, to Timbuktu, Mali. It was the first exploration of that desert by motorcar.

The second, also known as La Croisiere Noire, traversed Africa from north to south, beginning on October 28th, 1924, and ending on June 26th, 1925.

The third, and most famous expedition, known both as the Citroen-Haardt Expedition and La Croisiere Jaune, commenced on April 4th, 1931 in Beirut, Lebanon, and followed Marco Polo's Silk Road route to Beijing, while seven other half-tracks left the Yellow Sea City of Tianjin to meet them part-way. The expedition was covered by publications such as National Geographic. The half-tracks survived Russian bureaucracy, arrest, bandits, rebels, severe weather, and the death of Georges-Marie Haardt, who succumbed to pneumonia at the end of the journey, but finally arrived in Beijing on December 2, 1932."

There was also an attempted crossing of Canada in 1934, La Croisiere Blanche, that failed because of the weather.
http://citroen-c4-c6.forumgratuit.org/t19-la-croisiere-blanche-canada (http://citroen-c4-c6.forumgratuit.org/t19-la-croisiere-blanche-canada)
: Re: Halftracks
: dogsbody March 07, 2016, 05:04:28 AM
Here's an RAF David Brown tractor.

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4367/36800585486_f5722dacfe_c.jpg)



Chris
: Re: Halftracks
: Frank3k March 07, 2016, 06:34:30 AM
I thought of using a Steyr RSO as a post-war vehicle, maybe as a half-track. I assumed that there would be a large supply of partially wrecked trucks, tanks and tractors that could be combined into useful vehicles.
It turns out that the Germans did just that post-war, with the Waldschlepper 1500:

(http://s43.radikal.ru/i100/0909/9f/69f06f45ec17.jpg)

(http://www.maquetland.com/v2/images_articles2/images/waldschlepper_deutz_1500_avant_droit1.jpg)

Achim Icke Klinger built one in 1/35 using an RSO kit:
http://home.arcor.de/waldschlepp/waldschlepp/index.htm (http://home.arcor.de/waldschlepp/waldschlepp/index.htm)

: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin March 08, 2016, 03:15:32 AM

(https://deserttravels.files.wordpress.com/2013/03/citroen1922.jpg)


This one makes me think of doing a Beau Geste style armed French Foreign Legion Halftrack in North Africa - kind of an early version of the later LDG armed vehicles.
: Re: Halftracks
: Logan Hartke April 19, 2016, 05:13:59 AM
Because US halftracks are eternal, like the DC-3. I can't wait for the 2100s, when US halftracks in South America have adaptive camouflage and mount rail guns.

(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-l_ZSlRt_CzE/VXE-_xOQAHI/AAAAAAAAVuE/zu6ajit__wc/s1600/Dom%2BRep%2Bhalftrack.jpg)

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Il1OnnNjUjw/VoYqMPtDVsI/AAAAAAAAaGc/qqituu7Ny3c/s1600/Dominicano%2BM3.jpg)

These appear to be M5A1s, to me.

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: Halftracks
: apophenia April 21, 2016, 10:18:01 AM
Nice find Logan  :)

If the Ejército de República Dominicana is still keen on halftracks, how about adapting the M3/M5 suspension to the domestic Dominican RM-79 APC?
: Re: Halftracks
: ChernayaAkula April 21, 2016, 04:45:40 PM
Because US halftracks are eternal, like the DC-3. I can't wait for the 2100s, when US halftracks in South America have adaptive camouflage and mount rail guns.
<...>

That's some funny stuff right there!  ;D  ;D  ;D
: Re: Halftracks
: Old Wombat April 21, 2016, 10:54:05 PM
Dare I suggest a LAV-25 variant half-track? ???
: Re: Halftracks
: Logan Hartke April 21, 2016, 11:13:02 PM
That looks great, apophenia! Almost like an M3/OT-810 hybrid.

Cheers,

Logan
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 22, 2016, 02:11:11 AM
Here is a photo showing a prototype of a tank destroyer based on the Halftrack that was armed with six 105mm Czekalski recoilless guns.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v355/petrus_maximus/Misc/CITEFA-Canon_1.jpg)

The same I believe:

(http://www.militariarg.com/uploads/4/2/2/1/4221080/5272949.jpg?664)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 22, 2016, 02:12:04 AM
Modern(ish) Peruvian Halftrack:

(http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum_pic/Peru_Half-track_Saorbats_001.jpg)
(http://www.armyrecognition.com/forum_pic/Peru_Half-track_Saorbats_002.jpg)
: Re: Halftracks
: ChernayaAkula April 22, 2016, 02:34:09 AM
^ Can't be Peruvian - it's got no Saggers on it! ;D

Dare I suggest a LAV-25 variant half-track? ???


Done!

LAV-25 half-track

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/WhIf/LAV-25halftrack_zps85ba77f9.png)

LAV-25 three-quarter-track ( :P)

In both cases, the tracks were lifted from an M41 and are not to scale, going for looks only.

(http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/WhIf/LAV-25threequartertrack_zpsae500aac.png)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 22, 2016, 02:41:56 AM
^ Can't be Peruvian - it's got no Saggers on it! ;D


Are you going to argue with the guys in the back about it?

Love those LAV Halftracks - they need to be done in plastic!
: Re: Halftracks
: Weaver April 22, 2016, 04:56:46 AM
The Lav-25 half-track is particularly credible, given that the LAV steers on it's front two pairs of wheels. It would be even better if the drive sprocket was at the front, thereby shortening and simplifying the drivetrain.

The 4x wheels + 2x tracks paradigm gets me wondering. Imagine if the four wheels were at the corners of the vehicle and the tracks in the middle. The wheels would give you the 'lift' neccessary to get over obstacles, which in turn would mean that the tracks' front and rear sprockets wouldn't need to be raised. that would give you more track contact area on the ground. You could put the drive sprocket above the centre of the track, the latter then having a triangular shape, and that would enable you to have it pivot freely around the drive sprocket axle liek the 'walking beam' suspension on the back of ENGASA AFVs and trucks.
: Re: Halftracks
: Weaver April 22, 2016, 04:59:29 AM
Knew that wasn't an entirely original idea:

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2307574670_348597f344_o.jpg)

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2235/2306773073_628ff12250_o.jpg)

From here: http://tanks.torensma.net/index.php?page.id=9&article.id=56&&PHPSESSID=23cf47ebb15a431f8e2cf00b1205ca64 (http://tanks.torensma.net/index.php?page.id=9&article.id=56&&PHPSESSID=23cf47ebb15a431f8e2cf00b1205ca64)


: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 23, 2016, 04:01:16 AM
That's Ob'yekt 19, one of the developments that led to the BMP-1.  The tracks were/are retractable.

(http://www.amphibiousvehicle.net/amphi/R/Rubtsovsk-Obyekt-19/Obyekt-19-01.jpeg)
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 23, 2016, 04:04:28 AM
And speaking of BMP-1 developments, does Ob'yekt 911 count as a half track?  It had 4 retractable wheels for high speed road travel.

(http://otvaga.narod.ru/Otvaga/armour-rus-obj/ob911_2.jpg)
(http://otvaga.narod.ru/Otvaga/armour-rus-obj/ob911_1.jpg)
(http://otvaga.narod.ru/Otvaga/armour-rus-obj/ob911.gif)
: Re: Halftracks
: jcf April 23, 2016, 05:38:42 AM
And speaking of BMP-1 developments, does Ob'yekt 911 count as a half track?  It had 4 retractable wheels for high speed road travel.

No, it's a 'convertible' just like a number of between the wars experiments.
: Re: Halftracks
: GTX_Admin April 23, 2016, 06:03:36 AM
Fair enough.
Video showing both in operation here:
https://www.zhuatieba.com/video/XMzkzMDYxMjg0&usg=ALkJrhjetWtcAB3ZNIwWLR75r6in2I9-iw (https://www.zhuatieba.com/video/XMzkzMDYxMjg0&usg=ALkJrhjetWtcAB3ZNIwWLR75r6in2I9-iw)
: Re: Halftracks
: Logan Hartke April 11, 2018, 02:02:40 PM
Here's something I cobbled together recently...

Logan's Profiles - SdKfz 231 Halbkettenfahrzeug (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=144.msg140069#msg140069)

(By the way, I'm posting it in multiple threads since you never know where someone might be looking for inspiration months from now.)

Cheers,

Logan