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Title: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 26, 2011, 06:23:27 PM
Hello Folks,

Logan informed me about this forum and i am glad to see you all here. I went back to the Douglas Decimator I, which i like most. Here is one which belonged to the VMF-114, it took part in the Battle of Peleliu in 1944, but the pilot had to make a forced landing on Ngesebus. The plane was captured by the Japanese, and after examining, send to the Germans for further exploration because of the building of the carrier Graf Zeppelin. It was send to Versuchsverband OKW, known as 'Circus Rosarius'.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-1DecimatorBuNo47338ex-VMF-1142ndStaffelVersuchsverbandOKWLauhof.jpg)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: taiidantomcat on December 26, 2011, 09:33:33 PM
Ha! Very clever!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on December 26, 2011, 10:08:05 PM
Welcome, Lauhof!  Glad to have you here!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 26, 2011, 10:40:49 PM
Thanks Guys! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on December 27, 2011, 01:46:11 AM
I like it, looks like that Decimator really gets around.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JoseFern on December 27, 2011, 09:36:07 AM
Welcome aboard, Lauhof!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 29, 2011, 02:19:59 AM
Thank you!

Here is another one from the beginning of the development of the TB3D. Logan's 1942-vikings gave me the idea. During 1942 the US navy were anxious to find a heavy torpedo-bomber to have an really hard opponent for the seabattles in the pacific. They start to develop a new bomber. The basic formed the TBD with a different fuselage. It was called the Decimator. Three experimental planes were build and put on board the USS Enterprise autumn 1942 for exercises. here is one from VS-6:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-0DecimatorBuNo8317VS-6USSEnterpriseNov1942.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on December 29, 2011, 03:16:24 AM
Interesting, thanks.
The roundels in autumn 1942 are surprising, after Midway battle? This is pretty but risks friendly fire... or maybe to use as target? :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 29, 2011, 04:13:31 AM
Thanks Tophe! The three experimental TB3D's didn't took part in any combat at that time and had indeed the former roundel on the fuselage. Only the production TB3D-1's came into battle at the end of 1943.  But anyway i liked the view of it! So here is the second one from VB-6:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-0DecimatorBuNo83182ndexperimentaltorpedobomberVB-6USSEnterpriselauhof.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: RussC on January 01, 2012, 04:58:27 AM
Great to meet you, Lauhof. I'm Russ, and very impressed with your profile art.
 
 :meaw:
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 01, 2012, 06:44:22 PM
Thank you, Russ! Glad to have you here.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 04, 2012, 10:20:14 PM
The first production series of the TB3D Decimator came in the autumn of 1943. The VF-17 were the first squadron to recieve de Decimator to experience in the combat fighting in the pacific. The torpedobomber was still in the developing stage, so it recieved the number 01. Here is the TB3D from Lt.Cdr.John Blackburn.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-01DecimatorVF-17Ondonganov1943lauhof.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Stargazer2006 on January 04, 2012, 10:35:25 PM
The Decimator has always been a pleasant concept, the missing link between the Devastator and the Dauntless II (later known as the Skyraider). Do you think you could possibly give some consideration to a TB3D-2 or TB3D-3 variant with a different cockpit that would be a missing link as well? Not the greenhouse of the TBD anymore, but not quite the bubble of the AD?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 04, 2012, 10:51:24 PM
Thank you for the comment, Stéphane! I made some TB3D-2 and TB3D-3 variants on the what-if forum, so i don't know if this is what you had in mind:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2VTN-90.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-3DecimatorBuNO09283VA-63.jpg)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 04, 2012, 10:58:38 PM
The Decimator has always been a pleasant concept, the missing link between the Devastator and the Dauntless II (later known as the Skyraider). Do you think you could possibly give some consideration to a TB3D-2 or TB3D-3 variant with a different cockpit that would be a missing link as well? Not the greenhouse of the TBD anymore, but not quite the bubble of the AD?


..and there is also an 2B-version:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2BDecimatorVT-10Okinawa1945.jpg)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Stargazer2006 on January 04, 2012, 11:04:23 PM
Thanks, lauhof! Indeed I was thinking along those lines, but could not remember these particular profiles. Either I had the same stream of thought as you or subconsciously remembered seeing them, I couldn't say. Anyhow good ideas always DO come to life, eventually!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 04, 2012, 11:16:57 PM
You're quite right about it! :)

....there was also a french 2B-version:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2BDecimatorAeronavale3f3-1.jpg)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on January 05, 2012, 03:06:59 AM
Me likey! (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/bravo-009.gif)

Alex
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 06, 2012, 11:28:24 AM
Thank you for the comment, Stéphane! I made some TB3D-2 and TB3D-3 variants on the what-if forum, so i don't know if this is what you had in mind:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2VTN-90.jpg[/url])


I like this one a lot!  It just seems so much better proportioned.  8A/A-17 cockpit?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 06, 2012, 04:40:04 PM
Me likey! ([url]http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/bravo-009.gif[/url])

Alex


Thank you, Alex!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 06, 2012, 04:42:44 PM
Thank you for the comment, Stéphane! I made some TB3D-2 and TB3D-3 variants on the what-if forum, so i don't know if this is what you had in mind:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2VTN-90.jpg[/url])


I like this one a lot!  It just seems so much better proportioned.  8A/A-17 cockpit?

Cheers,

Logan


Thanks Logan for the compliment, It is indeed a 8a/A-17 cockpit!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 09, 2012, 02:59:23 AM
Here is another with the three-color scheme. Also delivered to VF-17 for testing in combat as a fighter-bomber end 1943.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-01DecimatorVF-17BuNo510051943.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 02:25:15 AM
Just a little jump in time - In 1944 the Douglas Company came with an TB3D-2 version.
Here is one from the USS Natoma Bay

regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DecimatorBuNo78811USSNatomaBay1944.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 10, 2012, 02:53:41 AM
Maybe try a Martin A-20 style turret in the rear of this one?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 05:25:07 AM
Thanks Logan for the advice!  :)  Is it the Douglas A-20 you suggest?

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 10, 2012, 05:36:23 AM
Douglas A-20, but the turret is a Martin turret, which is why I said "A-20 style", since they were used on other types, too.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 05:45:06 AM
Thank you! regards Lauhof.

Is this what you had in mind?

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 10, 2012, 06:56:47 AM
Ooo, didn't notice the edit.  Yeah, that's just the thing.  What do you think?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on January 10, 2012, 11:05:34 AM
That turret is going to look great!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jcf on January 10, 2012, 02:22:07 PM
Douglas A-20, but the turret is a Martin turret, which is why I said "A-20 style", since they were used on other types, too.

Cheers,

Logan


Indeed they were, including the Avenger.  ;D

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/TBF_MARTIN_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jcf on January 10, 2012, 02:31:52 PM
Speaking of 8A/A-17, howabout a civil derivative of the TB3D-2 similar to the unbuilt Douglas DT-202?

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/DT202_01.jpg)

'twould be like a Spartan Executive on steroids.   :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 10, 2012, 02:47:19 PM
Douglas A-20, but the turret is a Martin turret, which is why I said "A-20 style", since they were used on other types, too.

Cheers,

Logan


Indeed they were, including the Avenger.  ;D

([url]http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/TBF_MARTIN_01.jpg[/url])


Very cool!  Where'd you find that photo?  Got any more...?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 03:44:36 PM
Ooo, didn't notice the edit.  Yeah, that's just the thing.  What do you think?

Cheers,

Logan

Looks good to me too! Just gonna change a bit the window-section. To be continued..

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 03:47:23 PM
Douglas A-20, but the turret is a Martin turret, which is why I said "A-20 style", since they were used on other types, too.

Cheers,

Logan


Indeed they were, including the Avenger.  ;D

 

([url]http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/TBF_MARTIN_01.jpg[/url])


That's indeed a very cool picture! Very nice JCF!  regards Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 10, 2012, 03:49:15 PM
Speaking of 8A/A-17, howabout a civil derivative of the TB3D-2 similar to the unbuilt Douglas DT-202?

'twould be like a Spartan Executive on steroids.   :)

Thanks for the idea! JCF. I put it on my list to do.  regards Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 11, 2012, 05:44:26 AM
Douglas came in the second half of 1944 with a Decimator equipped with an Martin Turret, it was the TB3D-2C-version. here is one from VT-51 from USS San jacinto in 1944

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DecimatorBuNo79337VT-51USSSanjacintoturret.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 11, 2012, 06:20:25 AM
Now that looks mean!  I like it.  Thanks, lauhof!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on January 11, 2012, 07:49:44 AM
Definately the best of a pretty kickass batch!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 12, 2012, 04:18:36 AM
Thank you, guys! Here is another one, with the traditional gunner at the rear. One from VT-84 USS Bunker Hill

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DecimatorBuNo77789VT-84USSBunkerHill1945-1.jpg)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on January 12, 2012, 07:01:45 AM
Nice one! That canopy definitely works a lot better.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on January 12, 2012, 12:15:28 PM
Love both of your newest additions  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 13, 2012, 08:36:12 PM
Thanks Guys! Begin 1945 Douglas came with Decimator with a different turret, the TB3D-2D. It was very popular amongst the pilots of the Marines. here is one from VMTB-234

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DDecimatorVMTB-234June1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 14, 2012, 12:20:34 AM
The naval pilots didn't like the TB3D-2D with the british turret, so there was also an standard TB3D-2D, used by the USN. here is one from VC-83

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DDecimatorVC-83summer1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 14, 2012, 03:32:59 AM
Thanks Guys! Begin 1945 Douglas came with Decimator with a different turret, the TB3D-2D. It was very popular amongst the pilots of the Marines. here is one from VMTB-234

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DDecimatorVMTB-234June1945.jpg[/url])



Mmmmm... :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on January 14, 2012, 06:41:00 AM
Cool. I love watching the variants evolve!

Since the Aéronavale got some, any chance of a Decimator in ML-KNIL markings?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on January 14, 2012, 07:37:21 PM
I really like the ones with the added turret. Nice work!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 14, 2012, 11:30:08 PM
Cool. I love watching the variants evolve!

Since the Aéronavale got some, any chance of a Decimator in ML-KNIL markings?

Thanks! An ML-Knil one is no problem.  I put your request on my to do-list, but this will be after my holidays

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 14, 2012, 11:30:36 PM
I really like the ones with the added turret. Nice work!

Brian da Basher

Thank you Brian!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 12, 2012, 07:35:46 PM
Cool. I love watching the variants evolve!

Since the Aéronavale got some, any chance of a Decimator in ML-KNIL markings?


Hi Guys,

Been away for a month's holiday at Sri lanka, very nice, 35 degrees celsius all day but now back in Holland it is minus 10 degrees celsius. That's other stuff. So i am back again and on board with the request from the ML-KNIL.

The Dutch government ordered the Decimator end 1943 for the ML-KNIL squadrons fighting in the East and stationed in Australia. The first were delivered september 1944. ML-KNIL used the Decimator as fighter-bomber. here is one from 120 squadron fighting above Dutch New Guinea.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2DDecimatorML-Knil.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on February 13, 2012, 11:06:03 AM
Lauhof: Love the ML-KNIL Decimator! The Dutch in the Indies like that 'Snafu' tag  ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 14, 2012, 05:28:56 PM
Thank you!

In 1945 Douglas came with an fighter-bomber variant of the Decimator. The US Navy had asked for it due to the upcoming invasion of the japanese isles. It became the FB3D-1 Dominator. New zeland ordered 35 Dominators. Here is one from No 18 sqn in Bougainville in 1945.

regards
Lauhof



(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB3D-1DominatorRNZAF1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 15, 2012, 02:20:38 AM
Ooohhh..that just looks right! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on February 15, 2012, 04:43:07 AM
Ooohhh..that just looks right! :-*
I've got to agree! You could fool many an expert with this baby!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 15, 2012, 09:23:32 PM
Thank you Guys!

The Dominators were quickly put into action with the invasion of Okinawa and Iwo jima. Douglas came in may 1945 with the FB3D-2 Dominator.
Here are two machines from VBF-88 and VF-84.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB3D-1Dominator1945TokioraidVF-84.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB3D-1Dominator1945VBF-88.jpg)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 17, 2012, 11:54:41 PM
The USAAF was also keen to have the Dominator as fighteraircraft. So Douglas delivered the P-48B dominator. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BDominatorUSAAF1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BDominatorLeShima1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 18, 2012, 03:19:06 AM
Interesting.  I wonder if it succeeded in the fighter role or was converted to the strike role?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 18, 2012, 03:25:48 AM
Nice work and with a few minor modifications the original has taken on a very different appearance.  The USAAF variations are a nice alternative.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on February 18, 2012, 03:54:53 AM
Nicely Done! I really like the latest variations  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on February 18, 2012, 04:00:44 AM
The P-47 influence sure does make it look tough.  You get the feeling that any AA under 50mm is going to either get shrugged off or absorbed.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on February 18, 2012, 05:49:34 AM
Love the Dominator!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on February 18, 2012, 07:31:40 AM
I really like your fighter versions, especially the red-nosed one! Looks like a P-47 on a diet.

Nice work!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 19, 2012, 02:39:18 AM
Thank you, all Guys!!!  :)

The Fighterversion of the Dominator was only adapted by the Marines. It was used in the strike rol at the invasion of Iwo Jima and Okinawa. Douglas came with the FB3D-3 and the improved FB3D-4.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB3D-3Dominator1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB3D-4Dominator1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on February 19, 2012, 07:50:05 AM
Lauhof: Like that revised FB3D-4 canopy!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Rafael on February 19, 2012, 08:32:14 AM
Ditto!!!
Makes an already formidable bird more awesome looking
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 19, 2012, 08:48:23 PM
Thank you!

Here is an upgraded P-48C from the USAAF

regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48CDominator1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on February 19, 2012, 10:09:48 PM
That looks just right, lauhof!  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 20, 2012, 12:08:32 AM
WOW!!! Tres cool.

I have not followed the evolution of the Devastator but the P-48 appears to be a Skyraider with a P-47 canopy and cowl?

Carl
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on February 20, 2012, 01:06:17 AM
I thought that was a Jug for minute!  Nice one man  8)  Now I need to go get another Skyraider.  I hope you're happy!!!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 20, 2012, 02:49:02 AM
That looks just right, lauhof!  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan! It is for me also the right development!
regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 20, 2012, 02:49:58 AM
WOW!!! Tres cool.

I have not followed the evolution of the Devastator but the P-48 appears to be a Skyraider with a P-47 canopy and cowl?

Carl

Thanks! The canopy is from the Ryan FR-1.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on February 25, 2012, 07:16:48 PM
Amazing aircraft: congrats
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 18, 2012, 09:26:02 PM
Thank you!

The French Government in London was the first in Europe to order the Dominator. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BDominatorArmeedeLair1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48CDominatorArmeedelair1945-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on March 18, 2012, 09:55:04 PM
Many thanks from here in France! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 18, 2012, 09:59:48 PM
You're welcome Tophe! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on March 18, 2012, 10:59:34 PM
Yes,nice,especially number 63 !

Alex
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on March 19, 2012, 12:13:25 AM
Very good
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on March 19, 2012, 05:51:59 AM
All looking-reading so correct as being the real item.  Is super camo.   :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on March 19, 2012, 09:59:43 AM
Nice, those look very believable.  The top one, especially, for some reason.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 19, 2012, 07:54:32 PM
Speaking of 8A/A-17, howabout a civil derivative of the TB3D-2 similar to the unbuilt Douglas DT-202?

([url]http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/DT202_01.jpg[/url])

'twould be like a Spartan Executive on steroids.   :)


Thank you Guys for al your remarks!

Here is as promised the civil derivative of the TB3D-2, the Douglas DT-202 from panam

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasDT-2029105Panam1946.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 20, 2012, 02:01:51 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on March 20, 2012, 03:04:38 AM
Nice.
Agreed, looks great!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on March 20, 2012, 07:31:51 AM
I'd buy one!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Rafael on March 21, 2012, 06:12:51 AM
.....And the large airbrakes hide the doors to the ample luggage compartment :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 24, 2012, 03:53:29 AM
Thank you all!

When the war continued in 1945 the Douglas production-line of the Decimator and Dominator was overheated. So they asked other companies to join in. Bell took its part of building the Dominator and delivered his first planes to the Russian front. They had already experience with the P-39 nd P-400. So the Dominator saw it's first appearance on the Eastern front in april 1945. here are two examples of the production from the Bell company. One from 129th Giap in Germany and one from 16th GvIap just short before the outbreak of the Russian-japanese hostilities in aug 1945 on the Aleouten islands

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48B-2-BErus16GViap.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48B-2-BE129gviap.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 24, 2012, 04:53:47 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Rafael on March 24, 2012, 12:06:36 PM
Great detail the doors to the cockpit Lauhof :)

Rafa
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 24, 2012, 03:20:10 PM
Thank you, guys!

Here is another Russian Dominator, delivered by Douglas.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48B101stGIAP1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 25, 2012, 06:40:03 PM
One of the first Dominators, delivered by Douglas to the Soviets, belonged to the 506 IAP. During the assault on Berlin, the pilot made a mistake and landed on an airfield, that was still occupied by the Germans. The airplane was immediately transported to Hamburg and was made ready for carrier-trials. The Germans still believed they could finish the Graf Zeppelin and attack the Allies. But it didn't reach that far. Ten days later the war in Europe was over and the British troops found the plane , repainted, in an stand near Hamburg, not used.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BTrgerGruppe1861945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on March 25, 2012, 07:16:53 PM
Ohhhh yeees !!!  :-*

Alex
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 27, 2012, 01:55:59 PM
Thanks!

Here is another Russian Dominator.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48C508thIAP.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on March 27, 2012, 02:03:53 PM
DT-202 Thatz super design with fitting color-markings for it.  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on March 27, 2012, 06:18:04 PM
Great work
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 31, 2012, 02:03:40 AM
Thank you!


In june 1945 Douglas came with an TB4D variant, but it was the time that the navy needed more fighter-bomber planes than torpedobombers. Here is one from composite sqn 95. I made it a couple of months ago.

regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB4D-1ADecimatorVC-95Lauhof.jpg)

So in answer of the need for bringing down the Japanese, Douglas came in August with the TB5D Terminator. It was more a fighter-plane than an torpedo-bomber but it could carry bombs as rockets and torpedo's. Here are two from VF-81 and VT-82.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB5D-1TerminatorVT-82.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB5D-1TerminatorVF-81.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on April 26, 2012, 07:32:03 AM
Interesting birds
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 29, 2012, 11:59:55 PM
Thank you!

Back to the Decimator. End 1943 Douglas came with an Decimator-version on floats to use on board battleship and cruisers. It wasn't very succesful and it never came to active duty in the Pacific: The XTB3D-1F

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXTB3D-1FDecimatorfloatplane1943USN.jpg)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 02, 2012, 03:50:06 AM
In all secrecy Douglas worked on an improved version of the TBD devastator. Douglas designers were already started to work in 1939 at the TB2D-1 skypirate. So in nov 1940 a new team was assembled to work on a new concept, the TB3D Decimator. In sept 1941 they had their first prototype, but their were still a lot of problems to overcome. Begin 1942 they had two test-prototypes. One was send aboard the USS Wasp (VT-7)to the atlantic, were it was tested in deck-trails and anti-submarine reconnaissance duties. The other one was send with the USS Hornet (VT-8) and was participant in the Battle of Midway and had a satisfied approach on one of the japanese cruisers. It was the first step to develop the TB3D Decimator

friendly regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXTB3D-0A07761testprot.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXTB3D-0B07662testprot2nd.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 02, 2012, 05:35:40 AM
Could you do a RAAF one?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 02, 2012, 02:02:18 PM
No problem! GTX.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 03, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Could you do a RAAF one?


The Australian navy (RAN), with the Japanese threat at hand, was very interested in the Decimator-tests, and asked Douglas to build 20 TB3D-0's. Although the tests in the Pacific and Atlantic proofed to be successful, the US Navy still was not satisfied and asked Douglas to work on more developments. Douglas on the other hand was very busy to build their successful SBD and asked Martin to build the 20 TB3D-0's. Martin built on own account, 40 decimators with the designation (BT2M-1, BTM was already given to their drawing-board own torpedoplane - the BTM-1).

The RAN send 16 Decimators to the 805 naval squadron, which went on board the HMS Victorious. They took part in the Noumea-campaign in may 1943. 4 planes were already send to the 4th squadron from the RAAF, which took part as bomber-variant in actions in New Guinea early 1943. Here are two examples:

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasDecimatorMkI805SqnRAN.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasDecimatorMkI4thSqnRAAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 03, 2012, 09:32:29 PM
Oh yeah!!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 04, 2012, 02:42:36 AM
My pleasure! regards Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 04, 2012, 03:59:36 PM
The British military attaché in the US ordered from Martin the 20 Decimators, they had built on their own account and those planes were send to HMS Archer squadrons for escorting the atlantic convoys. Here are two from No 892 NAS.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasBT2M-1MartinbuiltFAA892sqn1.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasBT2M-1MartinbuiltFAA892sqn2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 08, 2012, 01:45:51 AM
After several efforts Douglas came with a third test-prototype, the XTB3D-0C which had his experience with VT-8. It had a different canopy. Nonetheless Douglas came in October with his first real prototype the XTB3D-1 with the traditional canopy.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXTB3D-0C07866testprot3rd.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXTB3D-1DecimatorPrototypeBuNo07877.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 30, 2012, 08:10:08 PM
After the war the Dutch government bought several TB3D-0 versions from Australia to use at the carrier karel Doorman. here are two stationed at Valkenburg AB in 1949

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1949DouglasTB3D-0DDecimatorMLDvalkenburg16-121.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1949DouglasTB3D-0DDecimatorMLDvalkenburg1-28.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 30, 2012, 08:51:57 PM
They look natural, perfect for 1949 Europe...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Litvyak on June 30, 2012, 09:52:42 PM
Loving the Decimator profiles. Any chance of a postwar RCAF or RCN version?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 01, 2012, 12:57:55 AM
They look natural, perfect for 1949 Europe...

Thanks Tophe!!

friendly regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 01, 2012, 12:58:52 AM
Loving the Decimator profiles. Any chance of a postwar RCAF or RCN version?

Thank you, Litvyak! No problem making an RCAF or RCN version!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 01, 2012, 01:47:54 AM
First another dutch one:

One Decimator did see action in WWII in Dutch Colors. From No 120 Sqn, lend from the Aussies. In 1945 Biak.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1945DouglasTB3D-0DML-KnilBiakJuly1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on July 01, 2012, 05:49:47 PM
I fear I may need a family tree diagram to get all these variants straight but I am really enjoying your extended Douglas production line!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 02, 2012, 02:05:49 AM
I fear I may need a family tree diagram to get all these variants straight but I am really enjoying your extended Douglas production line!

Agreed.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 02, 2012, 02:37:02 AM
I fear I may need a family tree diagram to get all these variants straight but I am really enjoying your extended Douglas production line!
I fear I may need a family tree diagram to get all these variants straight but I am really enjoying your extended Douglas production line!

Agreed.

Thank you Guys. I am cataloging it myself to stay put with it!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 02, 2012, 02:39:25 AM
Loving the Decimator profiles. Any chance of a postwar RCAF or RCN version?


Canada obtaint the left Decimators from the 0-serie after the war. They were send to the RCN. They also bought some Decimators TB3D-1 (MK.IA's) for duty at the RCAF. here are some examples

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1949DouglasDecimatorMkIIRCNAA-S.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1950DouglasDecimatorMkIIRCNAA-B.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/1949DouglasDecimatorNo420sqnRCAF2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Litvyak on July 02, 2012, 02:41:53 AM
Gorgeous! Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 02, 2012, 02:42:21 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on July 05, 2012, 09:12:13 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 13, 2012, 03:28:49 AM
Thank you all Guys!!!

After the 2nd WW The Dutch Government bought several P-48 Dominators from the US Navy. They were send to the Dutch Indies where they served with the ML-KNIL Airforce. They were used against the Indonesian people during the Police Action in 1947-1949. here are two examples from 120 sqn.

Regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BDominatorML-Knil.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasP-48BML-Knil1947.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on July 13, 2012, 03:31:54 AM
I like those!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 13, 2012, 05:04:27 AM
They are tempting to try a build with.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on July 13, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
WOW - All look and read absolutely legit.   :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 13, 2012, 09:19:46 PM
Thank you, Guys!!

With the invasion at hand on the japanese Home islands Douglas came after request of the US Navy with an upgrade from the Dominator, the FB4D Destructor. Here are two examples. One from the Torpedo Squadron 34 from Princeton in august 1945, which took part in strafing the Home islands of Japan, and one from VF-192, which took part in the Korean war.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB4D-1Destructor1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB4D-1Destructor1952.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on July 14, 2012, 02:51:31 AM
They look an absolute beast with the bubble canopy!  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 27, 2012, 03:45:42 PM
Thank you!

After the war the French Government bought several Destructors from the US Navy. They were send to the Aeronavale and used in Suez and Indochine. Here are two examples from Flotille 1F and 11F.

friendly regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB4D-1DestructorFlotille14FAeronavale.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFB4D-1DestructorFlotille11FAeronavale.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on July 27, 2012, 04:39:40 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 27, 2012, 08:50:30 PM
Thanks mate!

After the war a lot of us naval airplanes were redundant and sold to allied countries. The French aeronavale bought alongside the FB4D also the TB5D terminator. Here are two examples.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB5D-1terminatorAeronavale2.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB5D-1terminatorAeronavale1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 28, 2012, 12:46:01 AM
Nice French ones...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on July 28, 2012, 04:57:08 AM
Nice!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Brian da Basher on July 29, 2012, 12:27:40 AM
That Terminator certainly looks every bit the business! The Aeronavale scheme is absolutely inspired!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 29, 2012, 07:47:13 PM
Thank you all!!

Here is another Terminator. This one is from RNZAF.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB5D-1TterminatorRNZAF1947.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on July 29, 2012, 08:23:07 PM
Very good :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 30, 2012, 01:32:45 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 14, 2012, 01:43:45 AM
Thank you Guys!!!

The TB3D Decimator 2A-Type didn't make it to the Pacific theatre due to engine problems. End of August 1945 they were overcome and they made a successful entry at the USN at the beginning of Dec. 1945. Summer 1946 the British and Australian Navy also ordered the type. Although the jet-age period was already at hand, the TB3D-2A was very popular among navy pilots and it was used as fighter, bomber and torpedoplane. At the outbrake of the Korean War it was more than useful in supporting the armed forces in ground battles and strafing hostile bridgeheads.
Here are two examples from the USN and RAN.

friendly regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2ADecimatorVA-194USNKorea.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTB3D-2ADecimatorRAN.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 14, 2012, 02:37:18 AM
Mmmmm.... :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: TerryCampion on August 14, 2012, 05:42:56 PM
 :icon_alabanza: 8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on August 16, 2012, 05:40:11 AM
The latest batch of Decimators have a real purposeful look about 'em!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 17, 2012, 02:48:20 PM
Thank you all!

Two more... from FAA and RAN

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/TB3D-2ADecimator10FAA.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/TB3D-2ADecimator107RAN2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 17, 2012, 05:53:21 PM
The USAAF ordered in April 1945 50 TB3D-2A's for nightfighter and rocket-launch duties against the Japanese mainland. But when the war ended in Aug 1945 the number was reduced to 20. They were delivered to squadrons which belonged to the occupation-force of Japan. Here is one from 418Th NFS.

regards
Lauhof

(see next issue 139)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 17, 2012, 09:27:19 PM
and one from VF-11 in Korea

regards
Lauhof

(see next issue 139)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Jonesthetank on August 17, 2012, 11:34:20 PM
Lauhof,

Love the nightfghters, but how is the prop going to spin without ripping off the front of the radar pod?

Mark
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 18, 2012, 01:31:42 AM
Lauhof,

Love the nightfghters, but how is the prop going to spin without ripping off the front of the radar pod?

Mark


Hi Jonesthetank,

You are right about that.  :o They should be further back. I changed them

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/45_1945-12DouglasTB3D-2ADecimator418thNFSUSAAF1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/46_1952DouglasTB3D-2ADecimatorBuNo127038VF-11USSKearsageCV-331952Korea.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 18, 2012, 03:01:30 AM
Might still be cutting it a tad close - besides the radar won't like having the spinning metal right in front of it.  Maybe move to one of the wings?  Either way, I still like the concept and the overall execution. :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on August 18, 2012, 04:55:36 AM
Well the Fairey Firefly had a radar pod (APS-4?) in that position but the Griffon is a tad longer than the R-3350(?).

Absolutely love the VF-11 machine!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2012, 01:02:26 PM
Good ones, once  again :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 18, 2012, 02:01:59 PM
Thank you Guys for the comments!  About the radar-pod, the usual place is at the wings for this kind of aircraft with one engine, but indeed i liked the concept when i saw it in front of an P-38M.

regrads
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 18, 2012, 02:10:04 PM
Well the Fairey Firefly had a radar pod (APS-4?) in that position but the Griffon is a tad longer than the R-3350(?).

Absolutely love the VF-11 machine!

It was indeed the APS-4, but a little further back attached at the fuselage.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on August 19, 2012, 06:28:27 AM
Might still be cutting it a tad close - besides the radar won't like having the spinning metal right in front of it.  Maybe move to one of the wings?  Either way, I still like the concept and the overall execution. :)
Electronic synchronizing, much as Beech did with the weather radar installation in the Model 36 (it's right behind the prop and right below the propshaft, replacing a balance weight that contributed nothing else).  Granted, using tubes, it might be a bit bulkier, but it's still doable.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 20, 2012, 07:03:59 PM
Might still be cutting it a tad close - besides the radar won't like having the spinning metal right in front of it.  Maybe move to one of the wings?  Either way, I still like the concept and the overall execution. :)
Electronic synchronizing, much as Beech did with the weather radar installation in the Model 36 (it's right behind the prop and right below the propshaft, replacing a balance weight that contributed nothing else).  Granted, using tubes, it might be a bit bulkier, but it's still doable.

Thanks elmayerle for your supporting words! ;)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on September 14, 2012, 08:58:39 PM
The FB3D Dominator was the fighter-bomber version of the Decimator. It came in 1945 and although it was ordered by the Navy, the FB3D-3 version was only delivered to the Marines. But the slightly different model FB3D-3A came at last to the Navy. here are two examples on their duty against Okinawa and iwo Jima.

regards
Lauhof

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on September 15, 2012, 01:13:33 AM
Pleasant :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 06, 2012, 04:41:46 PM
Thank you Tophe!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 06, 2012, 04:59:16 PM
I worked out another idea. Alex(AXU) and his corsair and IAR 80-drawings (superb!) brought me to make a combination of both planes. The story behind it is that in 1940, with the war at hand, an Romanian pilot, Lt.Toma Lucian, escaped his country and met in a hotel in Lisbon a Vought-delegation, which returned to the USA after having a business meeting with some French navy-officers about the SB3U-Plane. The officer told them about the IAR 80. The Vought-people were interested and when the pilot offered them to get the basic drawings of the 80-machine, he was invited to the US. Two months later he managed to bring the elemental drawings to the USA and was invited to the VOught-plant. Vought, eager to have an new fighter, was already building the F4U, but there were a lot of problems. They were able to integrate the IAR model with the bubble canopy in the frame of the F4U. After tests it was at that moment a stable and trustworthy fighterplane. They called it the F3U-1 and went to the navy for tests. The Navy was very pleased with the model and after successful decktrials it was ordered.

Here is an F3U-1A version used in 1945 by a trainingssquadron from the Marines

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1AVMFT-20USMC.jpg)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 06, 2012, 06:45:35 PM
Here is one from VF-11 at Henderson Field.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1VF-11.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on October 06, 2012, 06:59:58 PM
Ohhh sir,that is awesome !!!
 :) :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 06, 2012, 07:46:17 PM
Yes, beautiful straight wing Corsair...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2012, 09:09:16 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 07, 2012, 04:52:41 PM
Thanks Guys!!!

In 1942 several carrier-squadrons of the US Navy were already using the F3U-1. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1VF-42USSYorktown.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1VF-41Ranger.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on October 07, 2012, 05:21:53 PM
EXCELLENT,certainly I have to do this version!
Thanks lauhof52
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 09, 2012, 04:02:28 AM
Thank you, Alex!!  :)

The first squadron who recieved the F3U-1 was VF-4 from the USS Ranger, when they arrived the squadron had become VF-41, but still the red rippers. Here is one, early 1941.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1VF-411941.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on October 09, 2012, 07:38:39 AM
I really like the shape of those F3U's, Very cool!  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 10, 2012, 05:48:54 AM
Thank you Doom!

Here are two more from the early scheme period, from the second squadron who recieved the F3U, VF-72, it's an F3U-1 and F3U-1A.

regards
lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1VF-72.jpg)(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1AVF-722a.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 10, 2012, 09:57:32 AM
Nice ones! :)
Would the 1941 ones have a birdcage canopy like the XF4U? :icon_crap:
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on October 10, 2012, 11:21:01 AM
Excellent concept on the USN IAR  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 10, 2012, 05:29:24 PM
Love those last ones.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 10, 2012, 06:15:55 PM
Nice ones! :)
Would the 1941 ones have a birdcage canopy like the XF4U? :icon_crap:

Thanks Tophe!
The nice part of it is that the IAR-80 concept had already an birdcage-like canopy in 1940.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 10, 2012, 06:31:36 PM
Excellent concept on the USN IAR  :)

Thank you!

Love those last ones.

Thanks! It's definitely also my favourite scheme.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 11, 2012, 03:12:07 AM
Here already a glimpse of the near future, the F3U-3 and F3U-3A in 1943.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-3VF-51943.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-3AVF161943.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on October 11, 2012, 03:27:24 AM
Becoming more interesting !!!
(http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/bravo-009.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/number-one-043.gif) (http://freesmileyface.net/smiley/respect/respect-013.gif)(http://)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 12, 2012, 02:45:10 AM
Thanks Alex! .. more to come

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on October 12, 2012, 09:43:30 AM
Hold one in reserve Lauhof. If the 'Gull Winged' Group Build ever happens, your F3U would be perfect!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 13, 2012, 03:16:11 AM
If the 'Gull Winged' Group Build ever happens

Well, you had better nominate it then...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on October 13, 2012, 04:37:36 AM
Hmmm, I thought a Gull Winged group had been nominated  ???
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 13, 2012, 05:15:49 PM
Hmmm, I thought a Gull Winged group had been nominated  ???

Nominated or not, the F3U gladly takes part! ;)

Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 13, 2012, 05:18:33 PM
The development of the F3U increases, even at the time Vought brought 'big'brother F4U. They made the F3U-4, a massive one. Here is one from VMF(N)-53 in 1944

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-4NVMFN-53.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 15, 2012, 08:43:20 PM
Inspired by the bubble-canopy from the IAR-80 the Vought engineers developed a new canopy for the F3U-2, but due to difficulties with the engine and stability of the plane, especially with decklandings, the F3U-2 came in duty at the end of 1943. Here is one from VF-17.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-2VF-17USSHornet1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on October 16, 2012, 09:43:41 AM
Damn, these IAR-80/Corsair mash-ups look awesome!  :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on October 16, 2012, 10:08:03 AM
They do indeed.  :)   Is the F3U-4 turbocharged?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 16, 2012, 03:58:10 PM
Damn, these IAR-80/Corsair mash-ups look awesome!  :-*

Thanks ChernayaAkula!

regards
Lauhof

They do indeed.  :)   Is the F3U-4 turbocharged?

Thanks Apophenia! The F3U-4 is indeed turbocharged. When it went into action it outperformed the F4U-1 at that moment.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on October 20, 2012, 07:11:34 PM
Damn, these IAR-80/Corsair mash-ups look awesome!  :-*

This statement is 100% accurate.   :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Daryl J. on October 20, 2012, 11:14:58 PM
 Agreed.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 21, 2012, 12:27:48 PM
Belated congratulations for this new beauty :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on October 21, 2012, 12:36:21 PM
F3U in all its variants -1, -2, -3, -4 play out so well.  :)
Like browsing/studying them.
Paint schemes are so Navyish seems I smell salt water.  ???
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 24, 2012, 08:20:14 PM
Thank you all Guys!!


The Usaaf was also interested in the new F3U and after several tests they ordered the plane as th A-23. Here is an A-23A from 66th FS in Tunis after the operation torch.

regards
lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/A-23A66thFS57thFGtunis1943_zpsb6225571.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 24, 2012, 10:40:22 PM
Nice! :-*
Could you create a Zwilling with F3U front and F4U behind? ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on October 24, 2012, 11:10:27 PM
Love it in the desert scheme!  :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 25, 2012, 02:17:08 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on October 25, 2012, 05:14:04 AM
Nice! Everything looks good in OP Torch 'pink'. But your A-23A would not only be capable of taking off from a carrier, in a pinch, she could land on again  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 01:46:25 AM
Nice! :-*
Could you create a Zwilling with F3U front and F4U behind? ;)


Hi Tophe

especially for you the F3U-1AZ Zwilling 1942

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1AZ1942.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 01:47:57 AM
Love it in the desert scheme!  :-*

:)

Thank you Guys! :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 01:50:49 AM
Nice! Everything looks good in OP Torch 'pink'. But your A-23A would not only be capable of taking off from a carrier, in a pinch, she could land on again  :)

Hi Apophenia,

Thanks! You're remark is just bull's eye! But only because i forgot to remove the hook.
regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 26, 2012, 02:15:29 AM
Hi Tophe
especially for you the F3U-1AZ Zwilling 1942
Wonderful! Thanks a lot! :-* :-*

(may I include it, with your signature, in my gallery http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45.htm (http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45.htm) ?)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on October 26, 2012, 03:45:40 AM
Excellent job on the F3/IAR bashes  ;)  Could you please bash up an F3 with a Bristol Centaurus engine from a Sea Fury?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 26, 2012, 03:34:12 PM
Luv the F3U-1AZ Zwilling :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 07:48:42 PM
Hi Tophe
especially for you the F3U-1AZ Zwilling 1942
Wonderful! Thanks a lot! :-* :-*

(may I include it, with your signature, in my gallery [url]http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45.htm[/url] ([url]http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/twin_boom_whatif_1939_45.htm[/url]) ?)


No problem Tophe!

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 07:49:47 PM
Excellent job on the F3/IAR bashes  ;)  Could you please bash up an F3 with a Bristol Centaurus engine from a Sea Fury?

Thanks,

CPT Mike

Hi Mike,

Do my best!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 26, 2012, 07:50:56 PM
Thank you Guys for your friendly remarks! Here is another A-23 from the desert war.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/A-23325thFG12thAFUSAAF.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 27, 2012, 02:39:27 AM
Excellent job on the F3/IAR bashes  ;)  Could you please bash up an F3 with a Bristol Centaurus engine from a Sea Fury?

Thanks,

CPT Mike


Hello Mike,

The FAA ordered the F3U-1, they changed it with the Bristol centaurus engine. Here is one from 802 sqn during the Korean War in 1952

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1AFAA802sqn1952.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on October 27, 2012, 02:55:56 AM
Now THAT'S the one for me.  Lovely.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Doom! on October 27, 2012, 04:04:51 AM
 :-* Lovely :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on October 27, 2012, 04:35:53 AM

Hello Lauhof,

Beautiful work!  :))  A sleek and powerful looking bird that just looks so right!  :D

Thanks for taking my request.

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 27, 2012, 07:27:47 AM
Yes, thanks for that beauty! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Acree on October 27, 2012, 08:20:28 AM
That's amazing!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 27, 2012, 08:50:59 AM
That last one looks like it belongs in a Reno Unlimited race.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 27, 2012, 10:07:47 PM
Thank you Guys for all your friendly remarks. Here is another British F3U-1A from the RAF, end 1945 beginning 1946 in India.


regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1ANo26sqnindia.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 27, 2012, 11:10:33 PM
Beautiful...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on October 28, 2012, 12:15:48 AM
Yep.  Still right.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 29, 2012, 03:09:12 AM
Thank you Logan and Tophe!

regards
lauhof

Here is another one from the 20th Squadron in India:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1ANo20sqnseac.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on October 30, 2012, 03:21:27 AM
Before you leave this subject, maybe one for the US Navy?  :D

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 30, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
Before you leave this subject, maybe one for the US Navy?  :D

Thanks,

CPT Mike

A welcome idea Mike! In a couple of days we will have a us navy one and a french navy one.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 31, 2012, 11:25:35 PM
The UK government asked Brewster to build more F3U-1's with the Bristol centaurus engine, but when the war in Europe ended they cancelled the last order and so they went to the US navy. Here is one from VF-53 in 1952.


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1BVF53.jpg)

After the war the French Navy ordered some more F3U-1 centaurus. here is one from Flotille 12F from Aeronavale in 1956.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1AFlotille12Faeronavale1956Karouan.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Old Wombat on November 01, 2012, 01:46:03 AM
Ni-i-ice! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on November 01, 2012, 09:06:01 AM
All these are turning out well.  Enjoying your fine work.   :)
Between the  - design - color scheme - markings  >  One from 802 sqn Korean War in 1952 and one from VF-53 in 1952 are my favorites.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on November 02, 2012, 12:17:20 AM

Wow  :D  That US Navy F3 really looks the part!  :)

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on November 02, 2012, 11:34:16 AM
Those Centaurus-powered F3U-1s look sharp in blue! Good to see that the AltHist Brewster got new management  ;)  Would the Centaurus have been licence-built in the US, I wonder?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 02, 2012, 07:38:39 PM
Thank you Guys!!! :)

The marines got their centaurus F3U too, it was the F3U-1C with the gull-wing. Here is one from VMF-235 serving in Korea.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1CMarinesVMF-235Korea.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 02, 2012, 08:01:51 PM
Elegant... Would it go to Reno after war?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 02, 2012, 08:19:03 PM
Elegant... Would it go to Reno after war?

Could be, Tophe. Maybe i make one

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on November 03, 2012, 12:00:09 AM

Hello Lauhof,

I am really enjoying the run of Centaurus F3's  :D  How about an example or two from the Netherlands?  Maybe one flying off of the Karel Doorman....

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 03, 2012, 02:16:25 AM

Hello Lauhof,

I am really enjoying the run of Centaurus F3's  :D  How about an example or two from the Netherlands?  Maybe one flying off of the Karel Doorman....

Regards,

CPT Mike

Hi Mike,

Good idea, will be working on it..
regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 03, 2012, 02:59:37 AM
Elegant... Would it go to Reno after war?


Could be, Tophe. Maybe i make one

regards
lauhof


Hi Tophe,

Made one from Reno. After the war a few F3U-1c's were used in racing. here is the one from Dick becker in 1949.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1CReno1949.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 03, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
Hurrah! Thanks!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 03, 2012, 03:08:30 AM
You're welcome!! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: ChernayaAkula on November 03, 2012, 06:29:19 AM
The "hotness" readings are off the scale! (http://i107.photobucket.com/albums/m309/ChernayaAkula/Emoticons/ukliam2.gif)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 03, 2012, 02:49:56 PM
 :) :)

Now give it an even bigger engine and brighter scheme...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 03, 2012, 11:10:08 PM
Thank you!!


Hello Lauhof,

I am really enjoying the run of Centaurus F3's  :D  How about an example or two from the Netherlands?  Maybe one flying off of the Karel Doorman....

Regards,

CPT Mike

The Dutch Navy bought after the war several F3U's from the US and UK. here ar three different types from the MLD:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1AVSQ-1lierMLD.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1BVSQ-2KarelDoormanMLD.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1CVSQ-4MLD1955.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 04, 2012, 03:52:29 AM
Ooooo...I like that middle one! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 04, 2012, 10:15:24 PM
Thank you!

After the FAA built their F3U ones with the centaurus engine, a part of the production was transferred to the Canadian Car & Foundry (CC&F). They were able to improve the engine and shorten the fuselage for better sight and handling. Here are two new F3U-1D's

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1DcentaurusRCN.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1DcentaurusFAA810.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 04, 2012, 10:34:21 PM
Thank you!

After the FAA built their F3U ones with the centaurus engine, a part of the production was transferred to the Canadian Car & Foundry (CC&F). They were able to improve the engine and shorten the fuselage for better sight and handling. Here are two new F3U-1D's

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1DcentaurusRCN.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/F3U-1DcentaurusFAA810.jpg[/url])


They are so cute.  ;D

Perfect size for our baby carriers.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 04, 2012, 11:06:20 PM
Like F3U eggplanes! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on November 07, 2012, 12:42:40 AM

That F3 from the Karel Doorman was fantastic  :)  Those shortened F3's look like real tough customers; probably could take a lot of punishment in the low level ground attack / gruond support roles...

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 22, 2012, 04:31:40 AM
Thank you Guys!  :)

We continue the story of the F3U. During the landing at Anzio in 1944 to penetrate deeper in the italian territory, the British RAF used several F3U-2's from the FAA to get used to the plane and test it as a fighter-bomber to assist the ground forces. One of the planes had to make a forced landing near Genua. The pilot was taken prisoner and the plane was captured and brought to Rechlin to test it. During the test-fase the Germans changed the front-fuselage to use a BMW 801-engine, which was used by the FW 190. The results were remarkable. Here is the F3U from the 'Zirkus Rosarius' in Rechlin and later the same plane found in JG11 markings at the end of the War.

The line-drawing is adapted from one made by FED. Axu showed it earlier, it was a IAR-80 with the focke-wulf engine. I used it on the F3U varaiant.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtF3U-2T9VKFebr1945.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtF3U-2ex-RAFJG11May1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: raafif on November 22, 2012, 05:49:00 AM
WoW ! those are nice !  Seems to me that's what Czechoslovakia should have built in 1947 instead of S-199s.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on November 22, 2012, 08:03:34 AM
Love ém, perhaps Yugoslavia can get some instead of Thunderbolts?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 24, 2012, 03:05:02 AM
Thank you Guys!!

The British Navy came in 1944 with a two seat variant of the F3U, the F3U-1B, it was build as a scout-bomber version on board the carriers. Here is one after the war from 805 sqn in 1948. The US Navy bought some end 1944 for training duties. So the other one is from VF-89 training section in mid 1945.


regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1B805SqnFAA1948.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/F3U-1BVF-89trainingUSSCabot1945.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on November 24, 2012, 03:55:51 AM
Love these little aircraft
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on November 24, 2012, 12:11:28 PM
Yeah, great take on Vought's "Training Corsair" too! Looks much better with a Centaurus  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on November 25, 2012, 01:49:09 AM
Great profiles :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 26, 2013, 07:10:04 AM
Thank you, Guys! It took some time to come back with a sidestep to the jet-age. here is the Boeing-Northrop A-9 from the USN and USMC in the 80's.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Boeing-Northrop/Boeing-NorthropA-9AVF-1611980_zps7d7d729c.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Boeing-Northrop/Boeing-NorthropA-9BVMFA-2351986_zps53e6d0a2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on January 26, 2013, 08:04:02 AM
Your images were broken, but I went to your profile to check them out.  Quite nice!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Boeing-NorthropA-9AVF-1611980_zps9fdb036d.jpg)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Boeing-NorthropA-9BVMFA-2351986_zpsdce0fc43.jpg)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 26, 2013, 04:23:59 PM
Thanks Logan! I moved my profiles a bit, so i forgot they disappear here! :) I will repair it.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 26, 2013, 07:32:18 PM
Here is another Boeing-Northrop A-9. A EA-9C from VX-30 in 1997.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Boeing-NorthropEA-9CVX-301997USN_zps815780a6.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 27, 2013, 02:18:56 AM
Love them - whiffs within whiffs (i.e. first an operational A-9 then to make them USN/USMC birds).  Outstanding!!! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on January 27, 2013, 04:53:07 PM
Maybe this not what-if but Top-secret... ???
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on January 28, 2013, 05:34:05 AM
Awesome use for a M-55!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 15, 2013, 04:50:43 PM
Thank you all Guys!

Now back to the F3U. When the Nazis invaded Russia in June 1941 the Russian aircraft companies were anxious to get help and assistance to produce new planes to counterattack the enemy. While Vought was working in 1941 with the F3U, based on material from the IAR-Engineers, Lavochkin-technicians seeked contact with Vought for help to build a new airplane. In a joint-venture structure Vought people went immediately to Russia and helped to set up a new line for the F3U, it became the F3UL! In the autumn of 1941 the first planes rolled out from the factory and here is one from 145th IAP.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1145thIAP_zps97c2db8f.jpg)

When Roosevelt undertook a great helping plan for Europe and its Allies, Vought started to set up a line in the US for the F3UL, together with Lavochkin it started to deliver in the beginning of 1942 new F3UL-1's. They were shipped in a convoy to Russia, but due to the Wolfpack attacks, one of the convoys was dispersed and the F3UL's stranded in England. The RAF used some of them for squadrons in the desert-war against the Africa Korps. Here is one from 92 sqn. It is the one i send to the Desert warfare.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1No92sqnRAF_zps9c039f44.jpg)

regards
Lauhof

The whole idea for this new line started when i saw a linedrawing from DEF from an IAR-80 with a lavochkin engine.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 15, 2013, 06:16:27 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on February 15, 2013, 07:56:00 PM
Marvelous additions, thanks! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on February 15, 2013, 09:49:53 PM
Pugnacious! I like!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 15, 2013, 11:21:01 PM
Thank you for the kind words!

When Vought-lavochkin delivered the F3UL-2, which already had more and more the shape of the corsair, French volunteers started flying at the East-front in Normandie-Niemen escadrille. Here are two examples from that squadron.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2303rdIAD_zpsbaa7bc0f.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2GC-3_zps13c636ca.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on February 16, 2013, 07:02:32 AM
Great stuff......
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on February 17, 2013, 02:34:52 AM
Agree
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on February 17, 2013, 01:48:14 PM
Very unique, Paul.  By the way, I should be getting back to the Pacific with some of my upcoming profiles, so you'll have that to look forward to!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on February 17, 2013, 06:03:37 PM
Excelent ones
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 18, 2013, 05:06:28 AM
Very unique, Paul.  By the way, I should be getting back to the Pacific with some of my upcoming profiles, so you'll have that to look forward to!

Cheers,

Logan

Thank you, Logan, looking forward to it!!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 18, 2013, 05:07:57 AM
Excelent ones
Agree
Great stuff......

Thank you all! More to come

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 21, 2013, 03:14:03 AM
Due to shortage of material Vought delivered F3UL's to the USAAC and the USMC to fight the Japanese in the Pacific. Here is one from USAAC from 11th FS at the Aloutians and one from VMF-121 on Henderson Field Guadalcanal.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2A11thfs2_zpsde1c20c8.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2C2VMF_zps60aaa970.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on February 21, 2013, 04:57:26 AM
Very cool........ I like them both.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on February 21, 2013, 08:25:24 AM
Very cool........ I like them both.
I feel the same, no: I LOVE them both, and even more as seen together. :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on February 22, 2013, 04:58:36 AM

I have greatly enjoyed watching the evolution of the F3U.  I was wondering if you had considerd fitting it with an in-line engine like the Merlin.  If possible, could you please let us see your vision of a Merlin powered F3U?

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 22, 2013, 09:18:36 PM
Very cool........ I like them both.
I feel the same, no: I LOVE them both, and even more as seen together. :-* :-*
Very cool........ I like them both.

Thank you Guys!!! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 22, 2013, 09:22:51 PM

I have greatly enjoyed watching the evolution of the F3U.  I was wondering if you had considerd fitting it with an in-line engine like the Merlin.  If possible, could you please let us see your vision of a Merlin powered F3U?

Best regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

Thanks for the compliment. I have made two visions of the merlin F3U. Tried first with the F3UL with the corsair-tail but that was not a very good sight, so i went back tot the basic one the A-23 and made two USAAF machines from the 4th FS and 362th FS. They were delivered by Vought in 1943 and tested well. So the European squadrons were supplied.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23BFSUSAAF_zps49b0b2d2.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23C362thFSUSAAF_zps779098f2.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on February 22, 2013, 10:13:01 PM
Very nice work there......
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on February 22, 2013, 10:18:53 PM
Very neat, Paul.  That's definitely interesting.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on February 23, 2013, 01:24:53 AM
Wonderful family...! :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 23, 2013, 04:35:22 PM
Thank you all!

The A-23C, built by Vought and Lavochkin was also used by the Russians. Here is one from 159th IAP and one who was captured by the Fins.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23C159IAP_zpsb104944f.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23CLelv-32_zpsabaef2dc.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 24, 2013, 03:49:31 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 26, 2013, 02:16:16 AM
Thanks!

In the second half of the WWII more F3UL-2C's were delivered to the FAA. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2C800SqnFAA1944_zpsc31f6ec0.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2C1839sqnFAA_zpsc91cf87a.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on February 26, 2013, 05:15:56 AM
Hello Lauhof,

Haven't been on this site for a few days.  Nice job on the Merlin F3U!  :)  Thanks for taking my request! :D  Looking forward to the continued delveopment of the F3U!

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 26, 2013, 05:16:47 AM
Those last ones look like they would have been agile.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 26, 2013, 05:18:42 AM
Might there not be inline-engine developments with other than Merlins?  I'm thinking that the Russians might be interested in using locally produced engines.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 26, 2013, 03:17:54 PM
Might there not be inline-engine developments with other than Merlins?  I'm thinking that the Russians might be interested in using locally produced engines.

Interesting idea.. :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 26, 2013, 03:19:02 PM
Hello Lauhof,

Haven't been on this site for a few days.  Nice job on the Merlin F3U!  :)  Thanks for taking my request! :D  Looking forward to the continued delveopment of the F3U!

Best regards,

CPT Mike

You're welcome! F3U goes on.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 26, 2013, 03:19:52 PM
Those last ones look like they would have been agile.

Thanks for the compliment!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on March 01, 2013, 04:22:06 AM
Convincing profiles  :)
Know I must have seen them in old war movies or airplane books.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 08, 2013, 04:02:06 PM
Convincing profiles  :)
Know I must have seen them in old war movies or airplane books.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 08, 2013, 04:04:05 PM
The F3UL in Russian service was a hit! They started mass-production with Yakovlev and Ilyushin. Here are two A-23 built by their factories.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23CYakbuilt144thIAP_zps7af7563b.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinA-23DMoscow_zps42bddc8f.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on March 11, 2013, 10:41:42 AM
That A-23D is one serious-looking brute! Same radiator arrangement as the Sturmovik?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on March 11, 2013, 10:31:54 PM
Looking good as always.......
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on March 12, 2013, 03:46:26 AM

Hello Lauhof,

Would you consider giving the F3 a turbo-prop?  :)  Maybe couple of airframes are acquired by Pilatus and they convert them to turbo-props for the Swiss Air Force?  :D

Keep up the good work!

Regards,

CPT Mike


Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 16, 2013, 03:03:00 PM
That A-23D is one serious-looking brute! Same radiator arrangement as the Sturmovik?

Thanks and yes, it is Sturmovik! 

Looking good as always.......

Thanks Joe!


Hello Lauhof,

Would you consider giving the F3 a turbo-prop?  :)  Maybe couple of airframes are acquired by Pilatus and they convert them to turbo-props for the Swiss Air Force?  :D

Keep up the good work!

Regards,

CPT Mike




I think about it Mike.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 20, 2013, 11:51:08 PM
When the turboprop engine was developed end of the second world war, the US Navy and Marines were testing and having research to use the engine. Especially for fast takeoff and landingsprocedures on board carriers or on short runways or rough terrain. End 1949 two squadrons were equipped with the F3UL-5T. Here are two; from USN from VF-61 in 1949 and one from the Marines VMA-212 in Korea, were they were successful.

regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TVF-61USN_zpsbd0a5192.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TVMA-212Marines_zps6bf12c0b.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on March 21, 2013, 12:02:57 AM
wonderful :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on March 21, 2013, 12:41:43 AM
That's great, Lauhof!  It really looks nice!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on March 21, 2013, 01:12:15 AM
Oh if those don't look the part!!!  Keep 'em coming man  8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 21, 2013, 02:28:00 AM
Oh yeah!!! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on March 21, 2013, 03:25:55 AM

Hi Lauhof,

Once again you have created one beautiful aircraft...that turbo F3 is sleek, looks incredibly fast, and could probably give better than it recieves in a fight!  :D  Excellent job and thanks for taking my request... :)

Best regards,

CPT Mike

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on March 21, 2013, 04:26:24 AM
Outstanding work....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: raafif on March 21, 2013, 08:48:49 AM
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TVF-61USN_zpsbd0a5192.jpg[/url])


very nice :) where's the exhaust ?  Do away with the radiator tub & add a big pipe either on the nose or wingroot like the Wyvern too ?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on March 21, 2013, 08:56:19 AM
Maybe the exhaust is on the starboard side of the fuselage...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 21, 2013, 03:10:58 PM
Thank you all for your lovely remarks! A starboard version is coming up these week with a wyvern exhaust pipe!!!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on March 22, 2013, 01:17:38 AM
Thank you all for your lovely remarks! A starboard version is coming up these week with a wyvern exhaust pipe!!!
That should add a lucious touch to a beautiful design.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 23, 2013, 02:33:51 AM
Thank you all for your lovely remarks! A starboard version is coming up these week with a wyvern exhaust pipe!!!

That should add a lucious touch to a beautiful design.


Here is one from the starboard side with the exhaust pipe, from VF-14. Also the USAF tested the turboprop as A-23FT, here is one from 64th FS in Alaska.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TVF-14USN_zps04e9c587.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23FT64thFSUsaf_zps6ed01b33.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: ysi_maniac on March 23, 2013, 02:39:02 AM
Love Vought Lavochkin products :) :) :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on March 23, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
Man those things are just lovely!  Its the lines....soooo nice!!!!!!  :-*  They look so nice with fish and Tiny Tims on em! 

How exactly did you make them again?  Is it just Lavochkin body (which one?) and Corsair wings and tail?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 23, 2013, 02:49:39 AM
Love Vought Lavochkin products :) :) :-*

Thank you! regards Lauhof

Man those things are just lovely!  Its the lines....soooo nice!!!!!!  :-*  They look so nice with fish and Tiny Tims on em! 

How exactly did you make them again?  Is it just Lavochkin body (which one?) and Corsair wings and tail?

Thank you for the compliment! The F3UL is made of lavochkin I-185 (wingand partly body), this T-version has a F2G corsair body and tailwing and an adjusted wyvern engine (turboprop)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on March 23, 2013, 05:12:12 AM
Beautiful aircraft, though the exhaust location makes me think the pilot may need an especially cooled flight suit.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 23, 2013, 03:41:30 PM
Beautiful aircraft, though the exhaust location makes me think the pilot may need an especially cooled flight suit.


for the too hot pilots a different version:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinA-23FT64thFSUsaf2_zps335196d5.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TVF-14USN2_zpse43e7348.jpg)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on March 23, 2013, 03:55:50 PM
Toooo cool  8)
They are now in my own reality of history.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on March 23, 2013, 09:16:14 PM
Great Ones :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on March 23, 2013, 09:29:05 PM
They look great.....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on March 24, 2013, 02:26:10 AM
Oh, yeah!!  Those so work!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 25, 2013, 11:22:13 PM
Thanks everyone! :)

In the midst fifties the most F3UL became obsolete because of the jet era. The USN sold several F3UL-5 and F3UL-5T's to South-American countries. Here are two; one from Honduras and one from El Salvador, used in the football-war.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THonduras_zps2be9e5a5.jpg)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5ElSalvador_zpsea4d3cdd.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on March 26, 2013, 05:48:04 AM
Good looking birds!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 27, 2013, 02:58:57 AM
Thank you! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on March 27, 2013, 03:57:57 AM
Looking good....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on March 27, 2013, 04:28:31 PM
Brilliant! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on March 28, 2013, 09:35:03 AM
Miss Penny is especially nice!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on March 28, 2013, 09:42:41 AM
With both El Salvador and Honduras operating very similar looking aircraft, I suspect target discrimination became a major training point for pilots.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 28, 2013, 06:07:37 PM
Thanks Guys! :) more to come  regards Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 27, 2013, 09:09:18 PM
In the second half of 1942 Vought-Lavochkin came with F3UL-2B version. It was both delivered to the Russia and the Navy of the USA. Here is one from VF-11 beginning 1943 and one from the Rumanian airforce. They captured one from the Russians and it was used in a raid against B-17's on Ploesti in 1944. Part of the linedrawing is from the Me-309 made by Greg (GTX).

regrads
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BV-F11_zps13b94e66.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BV-F11_zps13b94e66.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BEscadrille64Grupul1Rumania_zps09308b85.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BEscadrille64Grupul1Rumania_zps09308b85.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 28, 2013, 03:53:04 AM
. Part of the linedrawing is from the Me-309 made by Greg (GTX).

It is?? ???
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 28, 2013, 01:46:12 PM
This is the one you posted on the what-if board.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 30, 2013, 10:24:09 PM
On the day when our queen in Holland abdicated and we have an new king, i send you two more F3UL-versions. Vought-Lavochkin built the F3UL-4 in 1943, it was used in England were they received the F3UL-4 from Canadian Car and Foundry Company with a different engine and the F3UL-4A which was mainly used by the Marines. here is one from 414 sqn RAF (with the tailhook, it was originally ment for the FAA) and one from VMF-214.

regards
Lauhof



(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-4RAF1944_zpse1d7ae5c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-4RAF1944_zpse1d7ae5c.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-4Avmf-214white93_zpsa347316f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-4Avmf-214white93_zpsa347316f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 01, 2013, 02:55:22 AM
I like the RAF one. :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 01, 2013, 06:52:15 AM
That CanCar F3UL-4 is one tough-looking fighter! Is the radiator retractable?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 01, 2013, 02:54:30 PM
I like the RAF one. :)

Thanks!

That CanCar F3UL-4 is one tough-looking fighter! Is the radiator retractable?

Could be. Than you get a slim line!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 01, 2013, 07:08:42 PM
The F3UL-3 was built in the Soviet-Union and came in the beginning of 1943  in production mostly in the MIG-factory. The F3UL-3 was delivered to the Usaaf as the A-23E. Here are two examples, one from the 744 IAP and one from 63th FS.

regards
Lauhof


(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-3744IAP_zps5993af68.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-3744IAP_zps5993af68.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-363thFS_zpsc71ed478.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-363thFS_zpsc71ed478.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 02, 2013, 02:23:24 AM
 :)  They look fast and nimble.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 02, 2013, 01:51:04 PM
Thank you!!

Vought-Lavochkin built in 1942 a training/reconnaissance version of the F3UL-1. They were delivered to Russian squadrons mainly. Just a few were produced in the US by Vought and they were used as training-aircraft.
Here are two examples. One captured by the Fins after an forced landing at Rantasalmi and one from NAS Jacksonville from a trainingsunit.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TLelv24_zpsaf80df09.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TLelv24_zpsaf80df09.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TUSN48_zpsa923ac87.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TUSN48_zpsa923ac87.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 03, 2013, 01:59:55 PM
..and with camo-pattern:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TLelv242_zps8a977d80.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1TLelv242_zps8a977d80.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 04, 2013, 02:44:30 AM
Mmmm....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 08, 2013, 03:48:03 AM
Thanks everyone! :)

In the midst fifties the most F3UL became obsolete because of the jet era. The USN sold several F3UL-5 and F3UL-5T's to South-American countries. Here are two; one from Honduras and one from El Salvador, used in the football-war.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THonduras_zps2be9e5a5.jpg[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5ElSalvador_zpsea4d3cdd.jpg[/url])



Hello Lauhof,

I really liked the Honduran F3UL-5T.  :D  Could you do a profile of an F3UL-5T for the Dutch Air Force that was license-bulit by Fokker?  Perhaps Fokker would re-engine their version with the Rolls Royce Dart that they used on the F-27 Troopship?  Also, could you steamline the Fokker version by removing the stick-and-wire antennae array (I think the state of avionics technolgy as this time is sufficient to allow Fokker to internalize this system).

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 11, 2013, 10:59:48 PM
Thanks everyone! :)

In the midst fifties the most F3UL became obsolete because of the jet era. The USN sold several F3UL-5 and F3UL-5T's to South-American countries. Here are two; one from Honduras and one from El Salvador, used in the football-war.

regards
Lauhof



Hello Lauhof,

I really liked the Honduran F3UL-5T.  :D  Could you do a profile of an F3UL-5T for the Dutch Air Force that was license-bulit by Fokker?  Perhaps Fokker would re-engine their version with the Rolls Royce Dart that they used on the F-27 Troopship?  Also, could you steamline the Fokker version by removing the stick-and-wire antennae array (I think the state of avionics technolgy as this time is sufficient to allow Fokker to internalize this system).

Best regards,

CPT Mike

Hi CPT Mike,

I'll give it a try! First there will be some others with a Dutch one.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 12, 2013, 01:27:44 AM
Worked the last two weeks at the different models which were built by Vought-Lavochkin. So this set will concludes the Vought-Lavochkin serial types.

The A-23D model was also delivered to the USN as F3UL-2D. Here is one from VMF-221.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2DUSN122_zps5a0813f2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2DUSN122_zps5a0813f2.jpg.html)

When Vought-Lavochkin started with their F3UL, the first model F3UL-1A was tested by the USN. Here is the aircraft from O'hare from VF-3 in early 1942

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-1AusnmVF-3_zpse14e7aa9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-1AusnmVF-3_zpse14e7aa9.jpg.html)

Their F3UL-1B model was used by several British squadrons. Also by a Dutch squadron 322. After the war it was repainted and send to Airbase Twenthe.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1B322_zpsd4898818.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1B322_zpsd4898818.jpg.html)

The F3UL-2B model was also used by the USAAF as the 2BS-version which had a tailhook for decklandings and takeoffs. Here is one used in the Operation Torch.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BS309FS2_zpsc1db4160.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2BS309FS2_zpsc1db4160.jpg.html)

More to come...

regards
Lauhof


Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 12, 2013, 03:37:27 AM
Love the last one.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 13, 2013, 01:34:34 AM
Love the last one.


Thank you!
Thanks everyone! :)

In the midst fifties the most F3UL became obsolete because of the jet era. The USN sold several F3UL-5 and F3UL-5T's to South-American countries. Here are two; one from Honduras and one from El Salvador, used in the football-war.

regards
Lauhof




Hello Lauhof,

I really liked the Honduran F3UL-5T.  :D  Could you do a profile of an F3UL-5T for the Dutch Air Force that was license-bulit by Fokker?  Perhaps Fokker would re-engine their version with the Rolls Royce Dart that they used on the F-27 Troopship?  Also, could you steamline the Fokker version by removing the stick-and-wire antennae array (I think the state of avionics technolgy as this time is sufficient to allow Fokker to internalize this system).

Best regards,

CPT Mike


Hi CPT Mike,

I'll give it a try! First there will be some others with a Dutch one.

regards
Lauhof


After the war the Dutch government started to build up their own airforce again. Fokker signed a contract with Vought-Lavochkin to produce the F3UL-5T. They used the Rolls-Royce Dart Rda.3 MK.505 as turboprop. The first airplanes were delivered to 323 and 324 squadrons in 1950. Here is one from a later date with an MK.506 engine. It belongs to No 312 Squadron at Volkel. Mike the squadron insignia is from a later date but i liked to put it here.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T312_zps9310616f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T312_zps9310616f.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on May 13, 2013, 01:44:47 AM
Great profiles! The Dart engined one is a real cracker!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on May 13, 2013, 01:57:14 AM
Lovely family!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 13, 2013, 09:42:09 AM
It is indeed. IHMO, the Fokker-built F3UL-5T is the sleekest yet  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 13, 2013, 11:48:46 PM
OUTSTANDING Fokker-built F3 Lauhof!  :D  And don't worry about the period accuracy of the markings; I really don't get hung up on that kind of detail.  Afterall, this is a whiff; it's your creation.  I'm just happy that you took the time to entertain my request!  :)

Thanks again and keep up the good work,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 14, 2013, 12:34:30 AM
Lovely family!
It is indeed. IHMO, the Fokker-built F3UL-5T is the sleekest yet  :)
[/quote]
Great profiles! The Dart engined one is a real cracker!!

Thank you all!

regards Lauhof

OUTSTANDING Fokker-built F3 Lauhof!  :D  And don't worry about the period accuracy of the markings; I really don't get hung up on that kind of detail.  Afterall, this is a whiff; it's your creation.  I'm just happy that you took the time to entertain my request!  :)

Thanks again and keep up the good work,

CPT Mike

Hi CPT Mike,

You're welcome. Such a request  helps to evolve the creativity.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on May 14, 2013, 01:30:36 AM
To select a favorite from this fine series of F3U variants --- its the Fokker built.
Great profiles all  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 14, 2013, 03:31:33 AM
Thanks more to come.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: tsrjoe on May 15, 2013, 12:39:57 AM
those look really cool, esp the Ilmavoimat examples  8) id love to see a post war Finnish schemed one with overpainted yellow bands and the smaller roundel in place of the hakaristi, please, being greedy another i think would look sweet is your post war dart engined one again as a Finnish example in overall aluminium (possibly with a small D added to the prefix code as per Morko Morane with the V addition to the MS code ?) the addition of a black British style 'prototype' marking on the nose would possibly work too ;)

many thanks, cheers, joe
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 15, 2013, 03:50:49 AM
those look really cool, esp the Ilmavoimat examples  8) id love to see a post war Finnish schemed one with overpainted yellow bands and the smaller roundel in place of the hakaristi, please, being greedy another i think would look sweet is your post war dart engined one again as a Finnish example in overall aluminium (possibly with a small D added to the prefix code as per Morko Morane with the V addition to the MS code ?) the addition of a black British style 'prototype' marking on the nose would possibly work too ;)

many thanks, cheers, joe

Okay Joe, will work on it

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 18, 2013, 06:56:03 PM
those look really cool, esp the Ilmavoimat examples  8) id love to see a post war Finnish schemed one with overpainted yellow bands and the smaller roundel in place of the hakaristi, please, being greedy another i think would look sweet is your post war dart engined one again as a Finnish example in overall aluminium (possibly with a small D added to the prefix code as per Morko Morane with the V addition to the MS code ?) the addition of a black British style 'prototype' marking on the nose would possibly work too ;)

many thanks, cheers, joe


In 1950 when The Finnish government was really busy to reorganize their FAF orders were placed by several companies to obtain new aircraft, although to the treaty with Russia in small numbers. They signed an agreement with Fokker to obtain the F3UL-5T with Rolls-Royce dart engine and assembling them with the Valmet-factory. Here is one of the testplanes which was used by the HLalv 31.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 18, 2013, 07:04:02 PM
At the end of the war the F3UL-2E and F versions were delivered to the Dominion countries such as Canada, Australia amd New Zealand. Here are two examples used by the Canadian Navy and Australia (RAN) in the Fifties

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2Ecan870_zps910facf6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2Ecan870_zps910facf6.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2Fran805_zps97764145.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2Fran805_zps97764145.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 22, 2013, 03:33:12 AM
During the Solomons campaign with the attack at Bougainville island summer 1943 Lt. Chris Magee with his F3UL-2FS from VMF-214 had to make a forced landing on Bonis airfield in the North, but this was still occupied by the Japanese and Chris was made POW before he could destroy his airplane. So the Japanese took it Tokyo for examination. At the end it was send to the 22nd Hiko-sentai for further testing. Here are the two planes.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2FSVMF-214_zpsf8491ce9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2FSVMF-214_zpsf8491ce9.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2FS22ndSentai_zpse8d20031.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-2FS22ndSentai_zpse8d20031.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 22, 2013, 03:47:47 AM
those look really cool, esp the Ilmavoimat examples  8) id love to see a post war Finnish schemed one with overpainted yellow bands and the smaller roundel in place of the hakaristi, please, being greedy another i think would look sweet is your post war dart engined one again as a Finnish example in overall aluminium (possibly with a small D added to the prefix code as per Morko Morane with the V addition to the MS code ?) the addition of a black British style 'prototype' marking on the nose would possibly work too ;)

many thanks, cheers, joe


In 1950 when The Finnish government was really busy to reorganize their FAF orders were placed by several companies to obtain new aircraft, although to the treaty with Russia in small numbers. They signed an agreement with Fokker to obtain the F3UL-5T with Rolls-Royce dart engine and assembling them with the Valmet-factory. Here is one of the testplanes which was used by the HLalv 31.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg.html[/url])


Hi Lauhof,

Could you take the camoflauge scheme from the a/c in REPLY 318 and apply it to this aircraft?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 22, 2013, 04:28:34 AM
those look really cool, esp the Ilmavoimat examples  8) id love to see a post war Finnish schemed one with overpainted yellow bands and the smaller roundel in place of the hakaristi, please, being greedy another i think would look sweet is your post war dart engined one again as a Finnish example in overall aluminium (possibly with a small D added to the prefix code as per Morko Morane with the V addition to the MS code ?) the addition of a black British style 'prototype' marking on the nose would possibly work too ;)

many thanks, cheers, joe


In 1950 when The Finnish government was really busy to reorganize their FAF orders were placed by several companies to obtain new aircraft, although to the treaty with Russia in small numbers. They signed an agreement with Fokker to obtain the F3UL-5T with Rolls-Royce dart engine and assembling them with the Valmet-factory. Here is one of the testplanes which was used by the HLalv 31.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv31_zpsd38869a8.jpg.html[/url])


Hi Lauhof,

Could you take the camoflauge scheme from the a/c in REPLY 318 and apply it to this aircraft?

Thanks,

CPT Mike


Okay Mike, no problem

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 22, 2013, 07:52:55 PM
Hi Lauhof,

Could you take the camoflauge scheme from the a/c in REPLY 318 and apply it to this aircraft?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
[/quote]

Hi Mike,

here is your production airplane from the HLalv 31 in 1955

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv311955_zpsaa6f91de.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv311955_zpsaa6f91de.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 23, 2013, 02:14:03 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 23, 2013, 03:52:21 AM
Thanks!

Several F3UL-5T's were delivered by Fokker in Europe. here are two examples. One from Germany and one from France mid fifties.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TECTT-1france_zps5314f479.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TECTT-1france_zps5314f479.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TWasLw10_zps3b144c84.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TWasLw10_zps3b144c84.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 23, 2013, 04:32:21 AM
Hi Lauhof,

Could you take the camoflauge scheme from the a/c in REPLY 318 and apply it to this aircraft?

Thanks,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

here is your production airplane from the HLalv 31 in 1955

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv311955_zpsaa6f91de.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5THLalv311955_zpsaa6f91de.jpg.html)
[/quote]

Hello Lauhof,

WOW!  :D  That is a really beautiful airplane!  8)

Thanks again,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on May 24, 2013, 01:32:15 AM
The F3UL-5Ts are cool!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 24, 2013, 02:28:33 AM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 24, 2013, 03:15:41 AM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?

I second this request.  SEA colors on this bird would be another perfect fit!  I think it would not be long before some of these Fokker-builts also made their way to Central and South America... 8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 25, 2013, 01:56:37 AM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?

We'll have it a go!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 25, 2013, 01:57:39 AM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?


I second this request.  SEA colors on this bird would be another perfect fit!  I think it would not be long before some of these Fokker-builts also made their way to Central and South America... 8)


South America - who knows... but first some birds from the UK in 1954-1955

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T26sqnUK_zps18dcc0fa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T26sqnUK_zps18dcc0fa.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T20sqnUK_zpsc9945ec9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T20sqnUK_zpsc9945ec9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 25, 2013, 04:57:17 PM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?


I second this request.  SEA colors on this bird would be another perfect fit!  I think it would not be long before some of these Fokker-builts also made their way to Central and South America... 8)


Okay Guys, here are two CAS Birds, one from the USAF and one from VNAF

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T602ndFS_zpsbacbe4dd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T602ndFS_zpsbacbe4dd.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T524thFS_zps832fd9a4.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T524thFS_zps832fd9a4.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on May 25, 2013, 05:14:00 PM
Last four profiles really captured the look  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 26, 2013, 03:46:31 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 26, 2013, 08:07:12 PM
Thanks!!

Some F3UL-5TD stuff from Brasil

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TGAVCA1955_zps7778fc8d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TGAVCA1955_zps7778fc8d.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TGAVCA1960_zps673dcf77.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TGAVCA1960_zps673dcf77.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 27, 2013, 02:05:19 AM
Lots of F3UL-5TD built by Fokker were end fifties sold to the Sout- and Middle-American countries. here are two more:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDFAV_zps03effd1d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDFAV_zps03effd1d.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDdomRep_zps7c65ea89.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDdomRep_zps7c65ea89.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 27, 2013, 02:53:57 AM
Maybe Indonesia next?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 27, 2013, 04:54:30 AM
Maybe Indonesia next?

a good choice!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on May 27, 2013, 07:31:50 AM
Enjoying these!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 27, 2013, 08:38:25 AM
Love that Dominican scheme  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 29, 2013, 03:31:52 AM
How about one in USAF or Sth Vietnamese markings as a CAS bird over Vietnam?


I second this request.  SEA colors on this bird would be another perfect fit!  I think it would not be long before some of these Fokker-builts also made their way to Central and South America... 8)


Okay Guys, here are two CAS Birds, one from the USAF and one from VNAF

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T602ndFS_zpsbacbe4dd.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T602ndFS_zpsbacbe4dd.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T524thFS_zps832fd9a4.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5T524thFS_zps832fd9a4.jpg.html[/url])


Hello Lauhof,

The USAF F3 looks extremely plausible!  :D  Good job with that one.   8)

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on May 29, 2013, 03:39:49 AM

The South American F3's were outstanding, I especially liked the first Brazilian bird  :)  Thanks for taking the time to make this side trip to South America.  :D

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 29, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
Thank you all for your kind words! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 29, 2013, 05:13:34 PM
Maybe Indonesia next?


The F3UL-5TD was also delivered to the Indonesian Navy by Fokker at the end of the fifties. Mid fifties Australia ordered also F3UL-5TD's for two squadrons. They were immediately used in the Suez-crisis. For the 830 squadron plane I used the color and roundel ideas from Richard (Gekko1).

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDSkwU100_zpsab579a98.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TDSkwU100_zpsab579a98.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD805SqnRAN1956_zps39789d96.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD805SqnRAN1956_zps39789d96.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 30, 2013, 03:15:15 AM
Oooo, ... I like that 'lo-viz' Suez scheme !!!  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: tsrjoe on June 01, 2013, 12:50:21 AM
love the artwork development progression, the Finnish birds are really sweet, many thanks for sharing these, hmm i wonder who will be first to model the type  8)

cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 06, 2013, 02:46:00 AM
Thank you, Guys.

Just for the fun I went back to the first Vought-airplane in this range, the FMU-1 and made two whifs as if there was an Confederate and Texas state, as part of the United States, but with their own defense organisation,  joining in the korean war:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtFMU-1VTX-33_zpscc61986b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/VoughtFMU-1VTX-33_zpscc61986b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/voughtFMU-1confederate_zps2fd0af2d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/voughtFMU-1confederate_zps2fd0af2d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on July 06, 2013, 04:26:32 AM
Very nice.....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: raafif on July 06, 2013, 04:46:05 AM
FMU-1 is looking meaner !  Add a jet/rocket in the tail & it could'a been reverse-engineered from a Cuban Mig-13 :o
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 06, 2013, 11:43:49 AM
Great!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 07, 2013, 01:33:27 AM
Thank you all Guys! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 07, 2013, 01:35:25 AM
FMU-1 is looking meaner !  Add a jet/rocket in the tail & it could'a been reverse-engineered from a Cuban Mig-13 :o


Vought came in 1949 with the jet-powered FMU-3. It was delivered to the USAF, USN and Conf.AF and Texan AF. Here are two models, one from the texan airforce and one from the Conf. airforce,

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtFMU-3TEXAF_zps308c0a70.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/VoughtFMU-3TEXAF_zps308c0a70.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtFMU-377FCS_zpsa0351d72.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/VoughtFMU-377FCS_zpsa0351d72.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: perttime on July 07, 2013, 01:57:39 AM
Interesting...
Ýou should really post the latest in the Beyond '46 group build too.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 07, 2013, 01:59:42 AM
Wonderful jet derivatives, thanks :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on July 10, 2013, 03:25:39 AM
Thank you, Guys.

Just for the fun I went back to the first Vought-airplane in this range, the FMU-1 and made two whifs as if there was an Confederate and Texas state, as part of the United States, but with their own defense organisation,  joining in the korean war:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/VoughtFMU-1VTX-33_zpscc61986b.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/VoughtFMU-1VTX-33_zpscc61986b.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/voughtFMU-1confederate_zps2fd0af2d.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/voughtFMU-1confederate_zps2fd0af2d.jpg.html[/url])



Hi Lauhof,

That Texas Navy FMU-1 pilot would be pretty nervous flying in a Korean War scenario - that roundel is almost the same as the one used by the North Koreans :o 

Of course, you could say that as an Alt History, the North Koreans are using a marking system different from the one used in the real Korean War.  If not, I don't think it would be too long before that Texas pilot was being marked up a victory on some Allied pilot's tally board...

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 12, 2013, 02:28:56 AM
Thank you, Guys.

Just for the fun I went back to the first Vought-airplane in this range, the FMU-1 and made two whifs as if there was an Confederate and Texas state, as part of the United States, but with their own defense organisation,  joining in the korean war:

regards
Lauhof

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Hi Lauhof,

That Texas Navy FMU-1 pilot would be pretty nervous flying in a Korean War scenario - that roundel is almost the same as the one used by the North Koreans :o 

Of course, you could say that as an Alt History, the North Koreans are using a marking system different from the one used in the real Korean War.  If not, I don't think it would be too long before that Texas pilot was being marked up a victory on some Allied pilot's tally board...

Regards,

CPT Mike

Hi Mike,

You maybe right about that! :o

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 27, 2013, 12:41:48 AM
When Germany was threatening Poland to invade, the Polish emigrants from Louisiana made a big lobby to the Richmond Congres to help Poland. In April 1939 the Confederated Congres signed an Mutual treaty with Poland to help each other. So, when the Nazis really invaded Poland the Confederated Government was the only part of the USA, which indeed declared war on Germany. Along with Texas they upgraded their defence forces and the US Navy send them some obsolete F3F's. In the meantime the Confederated States en Texas made contracts with Grumman; Vought; Curtiss and Seversky-Republic to build some new planes. They were really fond of the biplane-model so, unlike the USA, they wanted to develop the biplane-concept and asked the several builders to work together. But first here are two F3F's from the both navy's.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-2VCF-1CSN2_zps659b84b5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-2VCF-1CSN2_zps659b84b5.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-2VTF-1TexanNavy1939-2_zps7560bbd5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-2VTF-1TexanNavy1939-2_zps7560bbd5.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 28, 2013, 03:42:13 PM
Also the Texan and Confederate airforces were equipped with the F3F. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-2CAFCPS-3_zps4e392841.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-2CAFCPS-3_zps4e392841.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-2PTS-21clarkfield_zps7897c98a.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-2PTS-21clarkfield_zps7897c98a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 29, 2013, 10:14:05 PM
Grumman developed the F3F-1 early version, which was rejected by the US Navy. The Confederate states bought them. They used them partly as a torpedo-fighter plane. With a small torpedo it was successful. The torpedo was partly inside the fuselage by take-offs and when in the air lowered in attack-position. Here are two from their Navy.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-21938-2_zps5064cb1f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-21938-2_zps5064cb1f.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-11938-2_zps223eff46.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-11938-2_zps223eff46.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 30, 2013, 02:30:46 AM
Love the last one. :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 30, 2013, 04:55:57 AM
Thanks!! :)

Here is another one with retracted torpedo from VCF-3, and one used by the Confederate airforce at Barksdale in 1937.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-31937_zps8f540dfb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1VCF-31937_zps8f540dfb.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1CAS-91937_zps27ae6fbc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1CAS-91937_zps27ae6fbc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: jorel62 on July 30, 2013, 06:17:44 AM
very nice.......
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Klaus Wachsmuth on July 30, 2013, 08:05:02 AM
Excellent artwork, Lauhof.  :)

However, in Confederate States Navy service, the USS Richmond and the USS Jefferson would be known as CSS Richmond and CSS Jefferson. "USS" stands for United States Ship, whereas "CSS" would mean Confederate States Ship.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 30, 2013, 02:31:29 PM
Excellent artwork, Lauhof.  :)

However, in Confederate States Navy service, the USS Richmond and the USS Jefferson would be known as CSS Richmond and CSS Jefferson. "USS" stands for United States Ship, whereas "CSS" would mean Confederate States Ship.

Thanks Klaus for reminding me. I'll fix it.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 01, 2013, 01:47:55 AM
In 1941 the Confederate Navy used the F3F-1 for training. The CSMC still used their F3F-1's for close combat. here is one from CTU-2 and one from the CSMC, squadron VCMF-2.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1CTU-2_zpscb7938ab.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1CTU-2_zpscb7938ab.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1CSMCVCMF-2_zps8cc455e3.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1CSMCVCMF-2_zps8cc455e3.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 02, 2013, 03:42:05 AM

Hello Lauhof,

I heard it once said that California, as an independent nation, was the 8th strongest in the world.  What would a Republic of California F3F-1 look like?  Would you be willing to take up the subject?  :D

I like the new direction you are taking and look forward to your next profiles  :)

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Gekko1 on August 02, 2013, 05:46:47 AM
The F3UL-5TD was also delivered to the Indonesian Navy by Fokker at the end of the fifties. Mid fifties Australia ordered also F3UL-5TD's for two squadrons. They were immediately used in the Suez-crisis. For the 830 squadron plane I used the color and roundel ideas from Richard (Gekko1).

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg.html[/url])


Thanks for the recognition Lauhof, much appreciated, good work!

Cheers

Richard.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2013, 01:24:52 PM

Hello Lauhof,

I heard it once said that California, as an independent nation, was the 8th strongest in the world.  What would a Republic of California F3F-1 look like?  Would you be willing to take up the subject?  :D

I like the new direction you are taking and look forward to your next profiles  :)

Best regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

I'll give it a try. Some British will be first.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2013, 01:26:01 PM
The F3UL-5TD was also delivered to the Indonesian Navy by Fokker at the end of the fifties. Mid fifties Australia ordered also F3UL-5TD's for two squadrons. They were immediately used in the Suez-crisis. For the 830 squadron plane I used the color and roundel ideas from Richard (Gekko1).

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-lavochkinF3UL-5TD830SqnRAN1956_zps42ea2c8f.jpg.html[/url])


Thanks for the recognition Lauhof, much appreciated, good work!

Cheers

Richard.


You're welcome and thanks for the compliment

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on August 02, 2013, 03:35:43 PM
Looking back F3UL-5 profiles in #348 as well as Suez 1956 can't help but think "Migs be cautious".  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2013, 07:35:08 PM
Looking back F3UL-5 profiles in #348 as well as Suez 1956 can't help but think "Migs be cautious".  :)

Thanks, i think so too!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2013, 07:37:03 PM
The Royal Navy ordered the F3F-1 early version in 1937 and put them alongside the Fairey Swordfish as fighter/bomber in their efforts to engage the Nazis. Here are two:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1FAA8372_zpsb823a21b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1FAA8372_zpsb823a21b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1FAA811sqn_zps4a83787d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1FAA811sqn_zps4a83787d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on August 02, 2013, 08:07:32 PM
Oh they do look good and frighteningly believable too, its just the sort of thing the Air ministry would have done if they were available.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on August 02, 2013, 09:17:53 PM
Arrggghh!!!! Just when I knew what I was doing with my F3F, you go and do this!!!  ;)

The '39 RN and dark grey Confederate ones are great!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on August 02, 2013, 10:37:25 PM
The Royal Navy ordered the F3F-1 early version in 1937 and put them alongside the Fairey Swordfish as fighter/bomber in their efforts to engage the Nazis. Here are two:

Those are great, lauhof!  Very nice!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 03, 2013, 12:15:35 AM
Thank you al Guys for your kind remarks! :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 03, 2013, 12:18:20 AM
In 1940 the Australian Government ordered several F3F's after  the good assessment by the Royal Navy, but they wanted a second man on the plane for radio- and armament-handling, so Grumman came with the F3F-1B. Here is one from the 5 squadron stationed at Bougainville.

regards
lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-15SqnRAAF_zpscb02fe14.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-15SqnRAAF_zpscb02fe14.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 03, 2013, 12:23:33 AM

Hello Lauhof,

I heard it once said that California, as an independent nation, was the 8th strongest in the world.  What would a Republic of California F3F-1 look like?  Would you be willing to take up the subject?  :D

I like the new direction you are taking and look forward to your next profiles  :)

Best regards,

CPT Mike


In 1938 California obtained a slightly independent status inside the Union and got the opportunity to maintain their on defence forces, so they declared war on Germany in 1939 and got some F3F's from Grumman. Here is one from VCAF-2 at Point Mugu.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1VCAF-2Cal_zps32b834aa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1VCAF-2Cal_zps32b834aa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on August 03, 2013, 08:58:16 AM
Love it! Keep those Grummans coming  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 05, 2013, 04:21:40 PM
Thank you!

The Confederate Government ordered an scout-bomber version of the F3F, the SB3F for their Navy. The plane was alos bought by New Zealand. Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/SB2F-1quapawVCBF-4_zps62951eb4.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/SB2F-1quapawVCBF-4_zps62951eb4.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/SB2F-125sqnRNZAF_zpsdecd40fc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/SB2F-125sqnRNZAF_zpsdecd40fc.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 05, 2013, 10:35:53 PM
The F3F-1A early version was used by the Marines from CSA and USA and it was a very smooth handling kit. Here are three which were doing ground-attacks in the Pacific.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AVCMF-1CSMC3_zps048ee0d0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AVCMF-1CSMC3_zps048ee0d0.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AVMF-221USMC_zpsfc7f8aef.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AVMF-221USMC_zpsfc7f8aef.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AVCMF-3_zps69cc651d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AVCMF-3_zps69cc651d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 05, 2013, 11:02:36 PM

Hello Lauhof,

I heard it once said that California, as an independent nation, was the 8th strongest in the world.  What would a Republic of California F3F-1 look like?  Would you be willing to take up the subject?  :D

I like the new direction you are taking and look forward to your next profiles  :)

Best regards,

CPT Mike


In 1938 California obtained a slightly independent status inside the Union and got the opportunity to maintain their on defence forces, so they declared war on Germany in 1939 and got some F3F's from Grumman. Here is one from VCAF-2 at Point Mugu.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1VCAF-2Cal_zps32b834aa.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1VCAF-2Cal_zps32b834aa.jpg.html[/url])



Hello Lauhof,

That was an outstanding Californian F3F!  :)  Thanks for taking my request.  I am wondering how long it will be before we see a Dutch F3F; possibly one from the Dutch East Indies AF... :D

Thanks again,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 06, 2013, 01:46:08 AM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 07, 2013, 03:29:46 AM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof


In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AMLDJava1941_zps7d4dff5b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AMLDJava1941_zps7d4dff5b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1ML-KNIL2-VLG-V2_zps4100092c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1ML-KNIL2-VLG-V2_zps4100092c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 07, 2013, 11:15:44 PM
The Finnish Airforce (FAF) bought several F3F-1A's and equipped three squadrons with them. The big F3F-1A's were superior to the Rata's and Lagg-3. The Finnish pilots were fond of it. Here is one who lasted through 1944 from LLv 32:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1ALLv32_zps0a715219.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1ALLv32_zps0a715219.jpg.html)

In 1938 Latvia searched in Europe and the USA for planes to defend their homeland, with the war at hand with Finland and Russia Latvia bought the big F3F-1A and replaced the Gloster Gladiators. They were a real match against the russian airforce, but were outnumbered, several planes flew to Sweden. Here is one from 1st Squadron in 1939

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1A1stefightersqnlatvia_zps5440b378.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1A1stefightersqnlatvia_zps5440b378.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on August 08, 2013, 11:55:26 PM
The SB3F is genius! Thumbs up for the Aussie 2-seater too!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 09, 2013, 12:52:09 AM
The SB3F is genius! Thumbs up for the Aussie 2-seater too!

Thanks!!!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 09, 2013, 02:34:38 AM
I really like the Latvian one.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 09, 2013, 02:38:08 AM
Thanks GTX!

During 1941 in all secrecy several Jewish refugees , who came to England, were trained as pilots. Due to the cruel way the Nazis handled the Jewish people, they did get their own squadron, No.116 squadron, the later Flying Wing squadron in Israel. They got also their own roundel. The squadron was send to North Africa to join the fight their against Rommel. They were the first to get the F3F-1B with closed canopy.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1A116RAF_zps96143f44.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1A116RAF_zps96143f44.jpg.html)

and one with camouflaged roundel:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1B116RAF_zps1b83a075.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1B116RAF_zps1b83a075.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 10, 2013, 03:43:58 PM
The CSN, who bought F2F-1 early version fighterplanes from Grumman in 1935, used some of them in 1939 with the outbreak of war as scoutplanes on board her carriers. The obsolete planes were sold to other countries, one of which was Lithuania. Here are the examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F2F-1VCSF-1CSN_zpse8fde850.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F2F-1VCSF-1CSN_zpse8fde850.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F2F-15thFSLith_zps5c4f1c3e.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F2F-15thFSLith_zps5c4f1c3e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 14, 2013, 03:28:30 AM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof


In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AMLDJava1941_zps7d4dff5b.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AMLDJava1941_zps7d4dff5b.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1ML-KNIL2-VLG-V2_zps4100092c.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1ML-KNIL2-VLG-V2_zps4100092c.jpg.html[/url])


Hello Lauhof,

I've been out of touch with the "whiff" sites and just got back to them today.  Like very much your Dutch F3F's  :D  Interesting color scheme on the DWIAF example  :D  What was the inspiration for that one?  Do you think that some of these birds might migrate down to Mexico, Central and South America too?

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 14, 2013, 03:59:29 AM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof

In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

I've been out of touch with the "whiff" sites and just got back to them today.  Like very much your Dutch F3F's  :D  Interesting color scheme on the DWIAF example  :D  What was the inspiration for that one?  Do you think that some of these birds might migrate down to Mexico, Central and South America too?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Thanks Mike for the compliment, couldn't point out your DWIAF -notification - do you mean the jewish raf here or the IAF ones from 'Profiles & GCI'. Maybe you could be more specific on it so i know what you like for the south-american subject.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 14, 2013, 11:02:55 PM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof

In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

I've been out of touch with the "whiff" sites and just got back to them today.  Like very much your Dutch F3F's  :D  Interesting color scheme on the DWIAF example  :D  What was the inspiration for that one?  Do you think that some of these birds might migrate down to Mexico, Central and South America too?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Thanks Mike for the compliment, couldn't point out your DWIAF -notification - do you mean the jewish raf here or the IAF ones from 'Profiles & GCI'. Maybe you could be more specific on it so i know what you like for the south-american subject.

regards
Lauhof

Sorry Lauhof, I got that DWIAF-thing all screwed up  ;D  I meant to abbreviate Dutch East Indies Air Force  :)  As for the South American F3F's - say, perhaps, Brazil and Argentina.  And while not "South America", I was also thinking Mexico.

As always, looking forward to your next series of excellent profiles...

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 14, 2013, 11:46:08 PM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof

In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

I've been out of touch with the "whiff" sites and just got back to them today.  Like very much your Dutch F3F's  :D  Interesting color scheme on the DWIAF example  :D  What was the inspiration for that one?  Do you think that some of these birds might migrate down to Mexico, Central and South America too?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Thanks Mike for the compliment, couldn't point out your DWIAF -notification - do you mean the jewish raf here or the IAF ones from 'Profiles & GCI'. Maybe you could be more specific on it so i know what you like for the south-american subject.

regards
Lauhof

Sorry Lauhof, I got that DWIAF-thing all screwed up  ;D  I meant to abbreviate Dutch East Indies Air Force  :)  As for the South American F3F's - say, perhaps, Brazil and Argentina.  And while not "South America", I was also thinking Mexico.

As always, looking forward to your next series of excellent profiles...

Best regards,

CPT Mike

Okay! The coloring from the GR-55 from the MLD is from a real Catalina, flewn by the Dutch in 1942, the profil colors from the DEIAF is from the Brewster Buffalo from the same squadron. I look into a Mexican one.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 16, 2013, 03:34:09 AM
Thanks Mike,

Dutch ones are in the pipeline

regards
Lauhof

In 1940, when the Dutch government was in London, they desperately tried to obtain aircraft so they went to Grumman to buy the F3F's early versions. most of them were send to the Dutch Indies. The Dutch Navy (MLD) organised a bomber-fighter squadron with the F3F-1A's. They were stationed at Morokrembangan at Java, some of the planes were evacuated to Australia. The F3F-1's were send to the ML-KNil squadrons, the one showing here kept fighting at the west of Borneo until end of 1943 and later on moved to New Guinea. It wears already the authentic dutch roundel

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

I've been out of touch with the "whiff" sites and just got back to them today.  Like very much your Dutch F3F's  :D  Interesting color scheme on the DWIAF example  :D  What was the inspiration for that one?  Do you think that some of these birds might migrate down to Mexico, Central and South America too?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Thanks Mike for the compliment, couldn't point out your DWIAF -notification - do you mean the jewish raf here or the IAF ones from 'Profiles & GCI'. Maybe you could be more specific on it so i know what you like for the south-american subject.

regards
Lauhof

Sorry Lauhof, I got that DWIAF-thing all screwed up  ;D  I meant to abbreviate Dutch East Indies Air Force  :)  As for the South American F3F's - say, perhaps, Brazil and Argentina.  And while not "South America", I was also thinking Mexico.

As always, looking forward to your next series of excellent profiles...

Best regards,

CPT Mike

Okay! The coloring from the GR-55 from the MLD is from a real Catalina, flewn by the Dutch in 1942, the profil colors from the DEIAF is from the Brewster Buffalo from the same squadron. I look into a Mexican one.

regards
Lauhof

Muy bien y muchas gracias senor Lauhof!  :D  I will be looking forward to seeing una F3F en los colores del Fuerza Aerea Mexicana!  My Spanish is obviously very rusty!!  :o
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 16, 2013, 06:26:57 PM
The Curtiss YP-23 was at last rejected by the USAAS as fighter, but the CSA were interested and asked Grumman and Curtiss to develop it. They choose the basic fuselage of the F2F and the SBC ans made a new biplane fighter. It was fast and handling was easy, so the plane was ordered by the CSN as the F2CF-1 and the CSAAF as the P-23. The early version of the P-23 had no closed cockpit, several of them were ordred by the Mexican Airforce (FAM). Here are the examples of the CSAAF and the FAM:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on August 16, 2013, 10:29:43 PM
That engine really changes the look of the Grumman.  Very nice.  What's the point of it, though, since that's the same engine as the normal F2F and F3F-1?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 16, 2013, 11:28:37 PM
That engine really changes the look of the Grumman.  Very nice.  What's the point of it, though, since that's the same engine as the normal F2F and F3F-1?

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan, you're right about the engine but it looks nice in the profile.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 17, 2013, 11:31:24 PM
From the past, a different Twin-Corsair...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-22.JPG)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 18, 2013, 04:46:55 PM
From the past, a different Twin-Corsair...
([url]http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-22.JPG[/url])


WOW! Tophe! This is TOP! 8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 18, 2013, 08:03:45 PM
Hi Tophe,

Adjusted a little bit and made the topdrawing of it!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1AZVMF-214-2_zps8534f08b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/Vought-LavochkinF3UL-1AZVMF-214-2_zps8534f08b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/vought-lavochkinF3U-1AZ1942-4b_zpscc15dd97.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/vought-lavochkinF3U-1AZ1942-4b_zpscc15dd97.jpg.html)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 18, 2013, 09:05:52 PM
Wonderful, lauhof, thanks a lot! :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 19, 2013, 01:37:11 AM
and here is the single-engined of it (thanks again!):
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 19, 2013, 03:27:22 AM
and here is the single-engined of it (thanks again!):

Very good Tophe! My compliments!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 20, 2013, 12:27:41 AM
And the 833 modified as twin-seater:
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 20, 2013, 02:00:20 AM
And the 833 modified as twin-seater:

Very Nice one!! :P
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 20, 2013, 02:27:52 AM
other twinseater!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on August 20, 2013, 02:43:07 AM
Mmmmm....that last one needs a radar pod and coat of glossy black  8)

Keep 'em coming man!!!!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 20, 2013, 04:00:13 AM
Mmmmm....that last one needs a radar pod and coat of glossy black  8)

Keep 'em coming man!!!!!

the glossy one with the pod!

regard's
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on August 20, 2013, 04:17:34 AM
Oh yes!!!!!!!  Thank you sir  8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 20, 2013, 04:49:29 AM
The F2CF with closed canopy was also used by the USMC and made a good effort in the pacific. Here are two, one from CSMC and one from USMC.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F2CF-1VMF-124USMC_zpsd669b03d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F2CF-1VMF-124USMC_zpsd669b03d.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F2CF-1VMCF-2CSMC_zpsfbb43afa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F2CF-1VMCF-2CSMC_zpsfbb43afa.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 23, 2013, 03:28:37 AM
The Curtiss YP-23 was at last rejected by the USAAS as fighter, but the CSA were interested and asked Grumman and Curtiss to develop it. They choose the basic fuselage of the F2F and the SBC ans made a new biplane fighter. It was fast and handling was easy, so the plane was ordered by the CSN as the F2CF-1 and the CSAAF as the P-23. The early version of the P-23 had no closed cockpit, several of them were ordred by the Mexican Airforce (FAM). Here are the examples of the CSAAF and the FAM:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg.html[/url])


Excellent job on that FAM bird!  :D  I was wondering, if during Ernst Udet's pre-war visit to the US he was able to acquire two Curtiss aircraft, is it possible he could have also acquired some Grumman's?  If possible, could you please do a German version?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 24, 2013, 01:43:37 AM
The Curtiss YP-23 was at last rejected by the USAAS as fighter, but the CSA were interested and asked Grumman and Curtiss to develop it. They choose the basic fuselage of the F2F and the SBC ans made a new biplane fighter. It was fast and handling was easy, so the plane was ordered by the CSN as the F2CF-1 and the CSAAF as the P-23. The early version of the P-23 had no closed cockpit, several of them were ordred by the Mexican Airforce (FAM). Here are the examples of the CSAAF and the FAM:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1CSAAF19thCPSlongriders_zpsa2a662ff.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-23F2CF-1FAM102_zpsa1bfbbc8.jpg.html[/url])


Excellent job on that FAM bird!  :D  I was wondering, if during Ernst Udet's pre-war visit to the US he was able to acquire two Curtiss aircraft, is it possible he could have also acquired some Grumman's?  If possible, could you please do a German version?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike


I'll give it a thought!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 24, 2013, 01:45:56 AM
Here is the Vought-Lavochkin F3UL-1AZ twoseater as a nightfighter with the Dutch MLD in Indies in 1942, as a 3-view

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 24, 2013, 02:03:36 AM
Great! Thanks... :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 25, 2013, 04:00:05 PM
Great! Thanks... :-* :-* :-*

Thanks,Tophe!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 25, 2013, 04:02:32 PM
In 1937 Ernst Udet visit CSN and bought from Grumman two F3F-1 early versions. The first plane was used by Udet for testing, the other one was send to Spain to experience war efforts in the Legion Condor. It was obtained by the Spanish in 1939.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1D-3166Udet_zpsa4e5b3fd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1D-3166Udet_zpsa4e5b3fd.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-16-G-61939_zps017a00eb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-16-G-61939_zps017a00eb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 27, 2013, 11:25:55 PM
In 1937 Ernst Udet visit CSN and bought from Grumman two F3F-1 early versions. The first plane was used by Udet for testing, the other one was send to Spain to experience war efforts in the Legion Condor. It was obtained by the Spanish in 1939.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1D-3166Udet_zpsa4e5b3fd.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1D-3166Udet_zpsa4e5b3fd.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-16-G-61939_zps017a00eb.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-16-G-61939_zps017a00eb.jpg.html[/url])


Beautifully done as usual Lauhof! :D  I especially like the Spanish Nationalist version; the grey-on-light grey color scheme really works well on this one.  :))

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 28, 2013, 01:11:36 AM
Thanks Mike!

..working on the italian ones...

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on August 28, 2013, 02:07:42 AM
..working on the italian ones...
Similar markings schemes to those used by CR.42's?  Which leads to the outre' thought of a CR.42DB engine and cowling package being installed on one of these.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on September 01, 2013, 03:47:44 PM
Italy, to catch up with big brother Nazi-Germany, visit  the USA in 1936 to buy and test airplanes. They bought the F2F-1 which was obsolete but with the manufacturing of the F2CF-1 by Grumman-Curtiss they changed their order and bought several F2CF-1's for the Reggia Aeronautica. Besides that, they bought some early F3F-1's for training duties. Some of the F2CF's were accomodated with the DB 601 engine.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1black1scuoloIt_zpsc317b727.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1black1scuoloIt_zpsc317b727.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F2CF-185esqua_zpsd0e97692.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F2CF-185esqua_zpsd0e97692.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on September 01, 2013, 06:11:46 PM
F2CF-1DB certianly has class between design and color scheme - right on :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on September 12, 2013, 03:41:38 AM

Hello Lauhof,

Could you please do one more version of the F3F; this time for the Japanese Imperial Navy.  Could you please put a Mitsubishi Kinsei 44 engine on this one (similar to the one that powered the Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber)?  Also, could you make this one an aircraft from the air group in the carrier Akagi?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on September 18, 2013, 08:38:38 PM

Hello Lauhof,

Could you please do one more version of the F3F; this time for the Japanese Imperial Navy.  Could you please put a Mitsubishi Kinsei 44 engine on this one (similar to the one that powered the Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber)?  Also, could you make this one an aircraft from the air group in the carrier Akagi?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike

Hi Mike

I'm a few days on holiday at Crete, see to it when i get home.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on September 22, 2013, 09:42:32 PM

Hello Lauhof,

Could you please do one more version of the F3F; this time for the Japanese Imperial Navy.  Could you please put a Mitsubishi Kinsei 44 engine on this one (similar to the one that powered the Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber)?  Also, could you make this one an aircraft from the air group in the carrier Akagi?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike

I'm a few days on holiday at Crete, see to it when i get home.

regards
Lauhof


In 1937 the Japanese Imperial Navy bought 3 F3F-1A's early birds from Grumman to test them on board their carriers. They fitted the Kensei 44 engine to it and it had great performances. The navy wanted to order more F3F's but due to the increasing tension the US government blocked the delivery. Here is one from Akagi:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1A2HikotaiAkagi1941_zpseacb2a67.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1A2HikotaiAkagi1941_zpseacb2a67.jpg.html)

In 1942 the French free armee de l'air bought several F3CF-1's (the successor to the F2CF-1). The USN and CSN tested them but cancelled the contract. Here is one from 4de escadrille 'les cigognes'.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3CF-1BGCII-5armistice_zps470c3131.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3CF-1BGCII-5armistice_zps470c3131.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 23, 2013, 02:12:56 AM
Ooo...I like the Japanese one!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on September 23, 2013, 07:59:02 PM
Thanks GTX!

The second F3F-1A from the Japanese Navy was also on board the Akagi, here it is in the May 1941 colours, when they were forming the squadrons. It was on board when the Akagi attacked Pearl Harbor on the 7th of December 1941. Mend to put into action in the third wave, but there never came a third wave...

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1AAI-208Akagijapan_zps0ef3fa74.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1AAI-208Akagijapan_zps0ef3fa74.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on September 24, 2013, 03:46:05 AM

Hello Lauhof,

Could you please do one more version of the F3F; this time for the Japanese Imperial Navy.  Could you please put a Mitsubishi Kinsei 44 engine on this one (similar to the one that powered the Aichi D3A "Val" dive bomber)?  Also, could you make this one an aircraft from the air group in the carrier Akagi?

Thanks and regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike

I'm a few days on holiday at Crete, see to it when i get home.

regards
Lauhof


In 1937 the Japanese Imperial Navy bought 3 F3F-1A's early birds from Grumman to test them on board their carriers. They fitted the Kensei 44 engine to it and it had great performances. The navy wanted to order more F3F's but due to the increasing tension the US government blocked the delivery. Here is one from Akagi:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1A2HikotaiAkagi1941_zpseacb2a67.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1A2HikotaiAkagi1941_zpseacb2a67.jpg.html[/url])

In 1942 the French free armee de l'air bought several F3CF-1's (the successor to the F2CF-1). The USN and CSN tested them but cancelled the contract. Here is one from 4de escadrille 'les cigognes'.

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3CF-1BGCII-5armistice_zps470c3131.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3CF-1BGCII-5armistice_zps470c3131.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof



Hello Lauhof,

That IJN F3F is outstanding!  :D  Thanks for taking my request  :D  I can imagine the confusion these American-built aircraft would have caused amongst American AA gunners at Pearl Harbor!  By the time they could figure it out, the F3's would have released on their targets and would be racing away to re-gain the Akagi...

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on September 26, 2013, 05:19:38 AM
I can imagine the confusion these American-built aircraft would have caused amongst American AA gunners at Pearl Harbor!  By the time they could figure it out, the F3's would have released on their targets and would be racing away to re-gain the Akagi...


The way American gunners were distinguishing targets at Pearl by the time of the second wave, I don't think it would have made much of a difference.  At least one P-36 and as many as five SBD Dauntlesses were shot down by US gunners on December 7th.  Even the USS Thresher was attacked multiple times just trying to get back into the harbor over the next two days.  Given the anxiety at Pearl and throughout the entire West Coast (see Battle of Los Angeles (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles)), anything with a "meatball" was going to catch a lot of flak, regardless of type.  In fact, the pilot credited with shooting down the first Japanese plane of the war in an air-to-air engagement, 2nd Lt. John L. Dains, was killed on December 7th by American AA fire.  They weren't being too discerning after the first attacks.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on September 28, 2013, 07:50:43 AM
I can imagine the confusion these American-built aircraft would have caused amongst American AA gunners at Pearl Harbor!  By the time they could figure it out, the F3's would have released on their targets and would be racing away to re-gain the Akagi...


The way American gunners were distinguishing targets at Pearl by the time of the second wave, I don't think it would have made much of a difference.  At least one P-36 and as many as five SBD Dauntlesses were shot down by US gunners on December 7th.  Even the USS Thresher was attacked multiple times just trying to get back into the harbor over the next two days.  Given the anxiety at Pearl and throughout the entire West Coast (see Battle of Los Angeles ([url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Los_Angeles[/url])), anything with a "meatball" was going to catch a lot of flak, regardless of type.  In fact, the pilot credited with shooting down the first Japanese plane of the war in an air-to-air engagement, 2nd Lt. John L. Dains, was killed on December 7th by American AA fire.  They weren't being too discerning after the first attacks.

Cheers,

Logan


The scenario I wrote out is imaginary and, as such, does not attempt to hold to any historical fact or context.  That is the beauty of the "what if" world; anything one proposes here stands on the merits of its creativity and need not be viewed while shackled to the "real world".

Some may not agree with this point of view, but hey, everyone is entitled to his/her opinion...

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 01, 2013, 10:44:03 PM
Curtiss came in 1937 with the XP-37, a modified P-36 with a supercharged engine. In 1939 the development was continued with the YP-37, but the USAAC cancelled the project due to instable engine and lack of visibility. Grumman took up the challenge to modify the engine and shorten the fuselage. So in 1940 they tested, with Curtiss, the F4CF-1. Both the navy from CSA and USA were interested and bought the plane. Here are two examples. It were two-seat planes, so they could also use them as torpedo-bomber.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-1BuNo0847VF-11_zpsc617da50.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-1BuNo0847VF-11_zpsc617da50.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-1BuNo0781VCF-4CSN_zps033fefdb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-1BuNo0781VCF-4CSN_zps033fefdb.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 01, 2013, 11:32:52 PM
That's the cleanest, sharpest profile that you've done yet, lauhof!  You're definitely improving.  The shading on the underside of the wing is much nicer, as is the cockpit detail.  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 02, 2013, 01:48:24 AM
That's the cleanest, sharpest profile that you've done yet, lauhof!  You're definitely improving.  The shading on the underside of the wing is much nicer, as is the cockpit detail.  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan

Thank you, Logan, for the fine compliment!! :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 02, 2013, 03:21:06 AM
Wow!!! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on November 02, 2013, 08:33:52 AM
What he said! Your F4CF-1 is nice  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 03, 2013, 08:47:27 PM
Thanks!! :)

The USAAC ordered 24 P-37A's from Grumman-Curtiss and they were all send to Hawaii. Here are two from 44th PS and 47th PS in Hawaii on 7th of December 1941.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37A47thPSUSAAC1941_zps1d6b22b3.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37A47thPSUSAAC1941_zps1d6b22b3.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37A44thPSUSAAC_zpscf690a8c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37A44thPSUSAAC_zpscf690a8c.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 04, 2013, 02:25:19 AM
Some RAAF ones please....
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 04, 2013, 02:32:20 AM
Some RAAF ones please....

I will attend it next week

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 04, 2013, 03:13:00 AM
It was the Uk who noticed the capability of the F4CF/P-37A aircraft and ordered several from Grumman-Curtiss. In 1942 they were send to the FAA and RAF.Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37Araf260sqn_zps6db8416b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37Araf260sqn_zps6db8416b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-1808NASFAA_zps68522f18.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-1808NASFAA_zps68522f18.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 04, 2013, 05:48:55 AM
The aircraft looks like it'd make a good photo recon platform, maybe with some drop tanks to supplement the range.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 04, 2013, 03:36:22 PM
The aircraft looks like it'd make a good photo recon platform, maybe with some drop tanks to supplement the range.

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks, Logan - The drop tank suggestion is one for the RAAF's

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 06, 2013, 09:38:05 PM
Some RAAF ones please....


In 1942 the Australian Government ordered the P-37A and P-37B reconnaissance/fighter. They were delivered end of 1942. The first squadron which was equipped with the P-37's was No 4 squadron. It had a supporting role with the US Army and Navy in the Pacific, both as reconnaissance and fighter airplane. here are the two different types from 4 sqn.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37BRAAF4Sqn_zps7ddaf583.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37BRAAF4Sqn_zps7ddaf583.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37ARAAF4sqn1_zps56e27ef9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37ARAAF4sqn1_zps56e27ef9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 06, 2013, 11:56:19 PM
The USA delivered P-37A and B planes according to the lend-lease-act to the Soviets. They were first put into combat in 1943.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37B8thIAPUSSR_zps16b5fb45.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37B8thIAPUSSR_zps16b5fb45.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37A7thIAPussr_zps6ba85bc9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37A7thIAPussr_zps6ba85bc9.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on November 07, 2013, 12:17:42 AM
Likely because of the way the Mikulin AM-35 was actually cowled and the familiar look of the P-40 in Red Stars, these look like absolute naturals.  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 07, 2013, 01:36:59 AM
Thanks for having invented the P-37B silhouette! (like YP-37 with canopy moved forward?)
Great harmony! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 07, 2013, 02:29:04 AM
Great work all round! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Queeg on November 07, 2013, 02:55:20 AM
Wow, ths soviet colours really suit the profile!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 07, 2013, 04:06:33 AM
Likely because of the way the Mikulin AM-35 was actually cowled and the familiar look of the P-40 in Red Stars, these look like absolute naturals.  Well done!

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks, Logan for your kind remark!  :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 07, 2013, 04:07:57 AM
Great work all round! :)

Wow, ths soviet colours really suit the profile!!!!!!!!!

Thanks Guys!! Love to make them.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 07, 2013, 04:08:55 AM
Thanks for having invented the P-37B silhouette! (like YP-37 with canopy moved forward?)
Great harmony! :-*

Thanks  Tophe!!  :)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on November 08, 2013, 07:52:36 PM
I have to concur with my esteemed colleagues, it really suits Soviet colours well.  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on November 09, 2013, 05:07:09 AM
It was the Uk who noticed the capability of the F4CF/P-37A aircraft and ordered several from Grumman-Curtiss. In 1942 they were send to the FAA and RAF.Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37Araf260sqn_zps6db8416b.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37Araf260sqn_zps6db8416b.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-1808NASFAA_zps68522f18.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-1808NASFAA_zps68522f18.jpg.html[/url])



Very nice work on the P-37 Lauhof  :D  I was wondering if the RAF might tinker with a Merlin-engined version...

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 09, 2013, 06:06:51 PM
Thanks Guys!

Here is another russian P-37 from 148th IAP

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37A148thIAPUSSR_zps2685ace2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37A148thIAPUSSR_zps2685ace2.jpg.html)

In 1942 Grumman-Curtiss started to work on a F4CF-3 with a different engine , the Allison V-1710-39 V-12 , which was used on the XP-46 prot. The last one was not put into production due to the fact that the USAAF didn't want to disturb the P-40 line. At the end of 1942 the F4CF-3 was delivered to the USN. The first squadron to recieve the plane was VF-33 hellcat's. Here is the bird from Hildebrand, which had still the red roundel .

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-3VF-33USN_zpsbd913862.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-3VF-33USN_zpsbd913862.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on November 09, 2013, 06:53:11 PM
Outstanding that USN version looks so good
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Empty Handed on November 10, 2013, 04:34:33 AM
Ah, now I know it's purely psychological but with that engine the F4CF-3 looks much more like it could be American than previous variants. She's a real looker!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 10, 2013, 04:42:32 AM
For something different, what about a Reno racer style variant?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on November 10, 2013, 10:56:39 AM
For something different, what about a Reno racer style variant?
How about a minimally-modified one for immediately post-war at Cleveland (say, a more streamlined windscreen with basic de-mil'ing and clean-up) and a later one from Reno with a lowered razorback and streamlined windscreen and canopy?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 10, 2013, 06:09:11 PM
For something different, what about a Reno racer style variant?
How about a minimally-modified one for immediately post-war at Cleveland (say, a more streamlined windscreen with basic de-mil'ing and clean-up) and a later one from Reno with a lowered razorback and streamlined windscreen and canopy?
For something different, what about a Reno racer style variant?

I'll give it a try next week, guys!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on November 11, 2013, 02:55:39 AM
One thing I can see definitely done for the racers is to pull the wing guns and replace them with additional fuel tankage, much as Paul Mantz did on his P-51's.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 11, 2013, 10:00:48 PM
Thanks for the advice, Elmayerle!

But first the F4CF-2 with the Merlin engine. Especially built for the UK and added to several FAA-squadrons. A couple of the F4CF-2's were lent to the USAAF, when participating in Operation Torch. They had still their tail-hooks, because they came from British carriers. Here is one from 5th FS in 1943.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4CF-25thFS52ndFGdesert1943_zpsb3798f80.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4CF-25thFS52ndFGdesert1943_zpsb3798f80.jpg.html)

The F4CF-3 was a success in his double-rol as fighter/bomber, so the USAAC ordered 50 P-37C and they entered service begin 1943. Here is one from the red parrot squadron in 1944.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37C502ndPSUSAAF1943_zps81bcd613.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37C502ndPSUSAAF1943_zps81bcd613.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 12, 2013, 01:58:08 AM
 :)

The Merlin version looks somewhat like a Dewoitine D.520.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: perttime on November 12, 2013, 03:23:11 AM
with that engine the F4CF-3 looks much more like it could be American than previous variants.
Actually... it reminds me of some Klimov M-105 installations  ;D
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: raafif on November 12, 2013, 03:53:45 AM
the Allison engined one looks typically US - I think the Brit one would look better with a Hurricane nose shape ??
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: perttime on November 12, 2013, 04:09:18 AM
I think the Brit one would look better with a Hurricane nose shape ??
Nooo.....  ;)
... but maybe they sent some to tropical areas and put Vokes air filters on them?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 16, 2013, 07:57:19 PM
After the war several P-37C's were bought by civilians. Some of them were prepared and used in air races. Here are two examples from the Cleveland race in 1948 and the Reno race in 1977

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37Cclevelandraces_zps986be02b.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37Cclevelandraces_zps986be02b.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37Crenoraces_zps73efcf5e.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37Crenoraces_zps73efcf5e.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 17, 2013, 02:39:41 AM
Oh yeah!!! :) :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on November 18, 2013, 11:57:46 AM
Oooo, the racers are very sharp  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: taiidantomcat on November 18, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
REally like the Red Parrot  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on November 23, 2013, 05:12:38 AM
:)

The Merlin version looks somewhat like a Dewoitine D.520.

Could you please make one fitted with a Centaurus radial like the Hawker Sea Fury?  And then export it to Israel?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 28, 2013, 03:21:00 PM
:)

The Merlin version looks somewhat like a Dewoitine D.520.

Could you please make one fitted with a Centaurus radial like the Hawker Sea Fury?  And then export it to Israel?

Thanks,

CPT Mike

Maybe next week Mike.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 06, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
After the Declaration of Independence the new state Israel bought several P37C's. They adjusted the centaurus engine and delivered it to the 101 squadron. here is one:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 07, 2013, 03:37:46 AM
Err...all I am seeing is "This person moved or deleted this image"
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: perttime on December 07, 2013, 03:43:57 AM
I'm seeing it OK (but I saw it earlier too)
http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg.html (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 07, 2013, 02:22:29 PM
sorry Guys! moved it to another directory, now it is fixed.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on December 07, 2013, 02:42:45 PM
Ah, there it is!  Quite nice, Paul!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 07, 2013, 03:10:03 PM
Thanks Logan!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Old Wombat on December 07, 2013, 05:24:52 PM
Israeli P-37C is awesome, Lauhof! :D

:)

Guy
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on December 07, 2013, 06:34:12 PM
In a what-if Universe, you could add a Palestinian P-37D for fair balance...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 07, 2013, 07:07:16 PM
In a what-if Universe, you could add a Palestinian P-37D for fair balance...

Tophe, a good idea!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: perttime on December 07, 2013, 08:02:46 PM
Syrian or Egyptian .... Would that be too realistic?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: JP Vieira on December 07, 2013, 09:07:43 PM
Great P-37s
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 08, 2013, 02:51:02 AM
Nice.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 08, 2013, 03:13:23 AM
In a what-if Universe, you could add a Palestinian P-37D for fair balance...


Maybe the combined state of Israel-Palestine with rounders as such...

(http://gi252.photobucket.com/groups/hh39/S9I90UC0V/IPRoundels.jpg?t=1249071726)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on December 08, 2013, 03:17:55 AM
Or, as a more traditional Arab state:

(http://th05.deviantart.net/fs71/200H/f/2013/051/1/0/roundel_of_a_palestinian_air_force_by_kyuzoaoi-d5vmjer.png)

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 08, 2013, 03:51:12 AM
Thank you Guys for all your remarks on the subject. I will be working on it next week

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 09, 2013, 02:52:02 AM
..... had some spare time

so

In 1943 a Short Sunderland took off nearby Alexandrië. On board were Palestinian inhabitants who wanted to fight against Nazi-Germany. They were send to England for pilot-training. Not knowing they were united with Jewish people, who had escaped from Germany with the same idea. In Scotland they recieved their training learning to fly the Hawker Hurricane and at last the Grumman-Curtiss P-37D. This was a upgraded version of the P-37C with a centaurus engine (The same the Israeli’s did in 1948 with their P-37C’s).
After their training in Scotland they were send back to Egypt to fight the African Corps in North Africa. At this time they encountered their Jewish mates in the same Squadron.
Along the tours at the front they learned to esteem each other and after several combats in Africa, Sicily and South of France they respected each other.
After the war the squadron was replaced at Alexandrië and most of the Jewish and Palestinian pilots went home. When in 1948 Israel declared their independence  and it was approved by the United Nations, the Arab world attacked Israel. Several Palestinian pilots, who disapproved this step of the Jews captured in Alexandrië several P-37D’s, escaped to Jordan and formed their own Squadron, they were joined by other Arab young Guys and so they formed the two Squadrons to fight the Israeli, PAF1 and PAF2 (PAF stands for Palestina Airforce).
The Israeli defeated the Arabs and their state was secured. But it were the Squadron-mates from the wartime from both Israel and Palestina who encountered each other in the knowledge that without peace between the Jews and Palestinian  people their would be now real solution. So in 1952 the negotiations led to the establishment of the new state Palestine.
Here are two P-37’s from that time. First the one from the PAF2, fighting the Jews and the second one is the upgraded version bij the Dalman-Company, the P-37E from the new state Palestine, who vought against Egypt and Syria who attacked the new state of Palestine in 1952

Regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37DPAF21948_zps2d0556a2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37DPAF21948_zps2d0556a2.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37E3rdFSPAF19523rdFS_zps878cdb5b-1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37E3rdFSPAF19523rdFS_zps878cdb5b-1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 09, 2013, 02:54:04 AM
 :) :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on December 09, 2013, 04:04:59 AM
Those look quite nice!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on December 09, 2013, 08:31:34 AM
Great new P-37s! and a fine backstory, alas with other wars instead of the peace I dreamed of, but what-if does not mean delirious you are right... ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: simmie on December 09, 2013, 08:37:20 AM
I didn't know the Short Sunderland was an amphibian!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 09, 2013, 02:33:25 PM
I didn't know the Short Sunderland was an amphibian!

Modified the story! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on December 10, 2013, 12:37:28 AM
After the Declaration of Independence the new state Israel bought several P37C's. They adjusted the centaurus engine and delivered it to the 101 squadron. here is one:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37C101Tayesetisreal1949_zps9e4e080d.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof


Nice work Paul  8)  To me the radial engine makes the P-37 look like a tougher customer than one with an in-line engine...

Thanks and regards,

Michael
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 11, 2013, 12:12:23 AM
Thank you all Guys!

Here is the other P-37D from 101 Tayeset and his counterpart in the UK.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37DIAFtayeset1011948_zpsbe8d738f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37DIAFtayeset1011948_zpsbe8d738f.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/P-37DFAA810sqn1954_zps26452a11.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/P-37DFAA810sqn1954_zps26452a11.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on December 11, 2013, 12:14:45 AM
The Royal Navy one is especially nice... :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 11, 2013, 01:54:04 AM
Thanks Tophe!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on December 11, 2013, 07:58:08 AM
The FAA colors just suite that plane and for some reason make the design scream BRITISH!  Nice job sir  8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 18, 2014, 06:11:29 PM
Thanks!

Douglas, which contributed a lot to the War-effort with the Decimator and Dominator, were asked by the Bureau of Aeronautics to develop a new fighter-bomber with a turboprop engine. Douglas, already building an piston-engine attack-plane (the AD skyraider), came with the A2D Skyshark. Although there were some difficulties at the beginning, they succeeded to deliver the plane before the end of WWII. When the USS Wasp (CV-18) returned to the Puget Sound Navy Yard, Bremerton, Washington 24 Skysharks were taken on board. With the Wasp they went to Pearl harbor in June for deck-trials. The USS Wasp entered war-activities in July 1945 by attacking Wake Island but only two Skysharks from VFB-86 took part in wartime-efforts by attacking the Yokosuka naval base in Tokyo in august. Here is one of them:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-1SkysharkVFB-86_zpsdd8a3b3f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-1SkysharkVFB-86_zpsdd8a3b3f.jpg.html)

After the war Douglas developed an anti-submarine version of the Skyshark, the A2D-2W. here is one from the VC-12, which took part in the Korean War in 1952:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkVC-12USN_zps51ac3546.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkVC-12USN_zps51ac3546.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on January 18, 2014, 06:26:34 PM
A2D-1 & A2D-2W   Excellent  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on January 18, 2014, 07:24:07 PM
Aw! "Ugly" but nice! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 19, 2014, 02:59:04 AM
Oh yeah! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 19, 2014, 05:51:08 AM
Thank you, Guys. There will be more. Even een jet-version.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 20, 2014, 03:22:28 AM
The Dutch Government was one of the first countries to buy the Skyshark. They were all send to the Marine Luchtvaardienst (MLD) for patrol and attack duties on board the Karel Doorman and to take part in the war against the Indonesian independence in 1947-1948. Here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2SkysharkNo860SqnMLD_zps07059be2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2SkysharkNo860SqnMLD_zps07059be2.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3SkysharkNo2SqnMLD1959_zpsf482cea1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3SkysharkNo2SqnMLD1959_zpsf482cea1.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on January 22, 2014, 11:37:44 AM
Liking these Skysharks  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 22, 2014, 09:21:22 PM
Thank you!

The USN was anxious to get a jet-fighter on board. They had already given McDonnell the assignment to develop a jet version. But the delay was causing retention problems by the pilots,especially those of the Marines, who were still flying F4U's. Douglas was already building a jet-fighter for the USAF. They used a shortenend fuselage of the Skyshark to build the P-74 Indomitable. It was delivered in 1947 to the USAF. The USAF, also flying the P-80, send 25 planes in 1948 to the USN, they were used for training and one squadron was equipped, the VF-52. Also some P-74 went to the Marines. But the Marines were the first to get their own jetfighter in 1950, the Douglas F2D-1 Skyshark II. Here are the two examples.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasP-74IndomitableVF-52USN1948_zps13999be1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasP-74IndomitableVF-52USN1948_zps13999be1.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasF2DSkysharkIIVMF-311_zps9e07fb5d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasF2DSkysharkIIVMF-311_zps9e07fb5d.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on January 23, 2014, 01:04:51 AM
All of the Skysharks are excellent although for this particular occasion that I'm in I have to give double thumbs up to the multi-seaters  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 23, 2014, 03:44:30 AM
All of the Skysharks are excellent although for this particular occasion that I'm in I have to give double thumbs up to the multi-seaters  :)

Thank you for the compliment!

friendly regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on January 23, 2014, 05:53:28 AM
Well......  ;)

(Note to self: a Skyshark floatplane might even have gone well with a seaplane-capable Type 45...... if it wasn't for its tail)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 26, 2014, 11:12:53 PM
The Skyshark II was tested and bought by the Royal Navy and saw service from 1952. The Dutch Airforce (KLU) bought the P-74 and the first squadron which was equipped with it was 325 Sqn. in Leeuwarden in 1955. Here are two examples,

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasF2DSkysharkIIFAAWM916_zpsbbad5a54.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasF2DSkysharkIIFAAWM916_zpsbbad5a54.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasP-74IndomitableKlu1955_zps87735cc4.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasP-74IndomitableKlu1955_zps87735cc4.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 27, 2014, 04:31:11 AM
These jet ones remind me a bit of the North American FJ-1 Fury:

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/FJ-1_in_flight.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 27, 2014, 03:09:36 PM
Yes indeed! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on February 12, 2014, 04:46:24 AM
Thanks!

Douglas, which contributed a lot to the War-effort with the Decimator and Dominator, were asked by the Bureau of Aeronautics to develop a new fighter-bomber with a turboprop engine. Douglas, already building an piston-engine attack-plane (the AD skyraider), came with the A2D Skyshark. Although there were some difficulties at the beginning, they succeeded to deliver the plane before the end of WWII. When the USS Wasp (CV-18) returned to the Puget Sound Navy Yard, Bremerton, Washington 24 Skysharks were taken on board. With the Wasp they went to Pearl harbor in June for deck-trials. The USS Wasp entered war-activities in July 1945 by attacking Wake Island but only two Skysharks from VFB-86 took part in wartime-efforts by attacking the Yokosuka naval base in Tokyo in august. Here is one of them:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-1SkysharkVFB-86_zpsdd8a3b3f.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-1SkysharkVFB-86_zpsdd8a3b3f.jpg.html[/url])

After the war Douglas developed an anti-submarine version of the Skyshark, the A2D-2W. here is one from the VC-12, which took part in the Korean War in 1952:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkVC-12USN_zps51ac3546.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkVC-12USN_zps51ac3546.jpg.html[/url])

friendly regards
Lauhof


For some reason, I keep thinking that the A2D-2W would be a natural for Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force colors.  if you have the time, could you please do a JMSDF machine?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 16, 2014, 05:00:26 PM
No problem Mike!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 23, 2014, 10:12:38 PM
No problem Mike!

regards
Lauhof


Hi Mike,

After the 2nd WW the allies built up the Japanse defence force as a result of the communist tension in the region. So they created the JMSDF-force. Several Skysharks were delivered in he beginning of the fifties.
Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkJMSDF_zpsdf82b7c9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkJMSDF_zpsdf82b7c9.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3Skysharkjapantrainer_zpsb11c89e0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3Skysharkjapantrainer_zpsb11c89e0.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Scooterman on February 24, 2014, 07:51:21 AM
SWEET MONKEY JESUS!!!!!

I NEED A SKYSHARK!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on February 25, 2014, 12:51:59 AM
No problem Mike!

regards
Lauhof


Hi Mike,

After the 2nd WW the allies built up the Japanse defence force as a result of the communist tension in the region. So they created the JMSDF-force. Several Skysharks were delivered in he beginning of the fifties.
Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkJMSDF_zpsdf82b7c9.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-2WSkysharkJMSDF_zpsdf82b7c9.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3Skysharkjapantrainer_zpsb11c89e0.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/DouglasA2D-3Skysharkjapantrainer_zpsb11c89e0.jpg.html[/url])


Hello Lauhof,

Thanks for the JMSDF Skysharks; they are outstanding!  :D  I really like the second one; that one really looks like a "could-have-been" aircraft  8)

Best regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 25, 2014, 02:28:41 AM
Thank you Guys!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 25, 2014, 02:29:39 AM

Hello Lauhof,

Thanks for the JMSDF Skysharks; they are outstanding!  :D  I really like the second one; that one really looks like a "could-have-been" aircraft  8)

Best regards,

CPT Mike
[/quote]

You're welcome

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 23, 2014, 05:32:46 PM
At the beginning of WWII the Nazis were already testing airplanes with jet-engines. Messerschmitt and Heinkel were the first. When Messerschmitt postponed their tests due to problems with the JUMO 003 engine, for almost two years. Focke-Wulf stepped into the gap and asked Junkers to further develop the Jumo-engine. They came with the Jumo 004A and Focke-Wulf developed the Fw 190T-1.
However the Nazis contracted Messerschmitt for their Me 262. At the time Messerschmitt was still developing prototypes, Focke-Wulf delivered their first Fw 190T's to Finland. The Fins used them with success against the Russian troops. The FW 190T had a good performance. So in the beginning of 1945 the Nazis contracted the Fw 190T-1. here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1500647IIJG261945_zps973aa5bc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1500647IIJG261945_zps973aa5bc.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1A170342HLeLv24FAF1944_zps746ae3cc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1A170342HLeLv24FAF1944_zps746ae3cc.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on April 23, 2014, 06:35:48 PM
Great new silhouettes, thanks!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: arc3371 on April 25, 2014, 06:56:10 PM
Cool idea and well illustrated
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 26, 2014, 04:57:10 PM
Thank you, Guys!

Focke-Wulf, disappointed by the lack of interest from the Nazis, started negotiations with the Japanese Navy. They were eager to obtain the Fw 190T jet-version but wanted a torpedo-bomber variant. In 1943 Nakajima started with German engineers to built the Fw 190T-1B.  Successfull tests were made on an airfield near Kobe and several takeoff and decklandings were made on the carrier Taiho, which was already launched in the waters near Kobe but still not commissioned. When the Fw 190T-1B went into production at the beginning of 1944 the purpose was to deliver the torpedo-bomber to the carrier-squadrons. But the staff of the IJNAF were reluctant to use the plane for operational action. Afraid the airplane was captured by their enemy, the US.
The first batch was send to groundforces, such as the 131st Kokutai, stationed at Kanoya AB and used for reconnaissance duties. CPO Yoshimitsu Naka and Radiomann - Lt.JG Hisao Kanazawa, formerly flying a Nakajima B6N2 were send at an reconnaissance mission to Okinawa with the Fw 190T-1B in March 1945. An invasion of the Island was at hand. Due to fuel-distribution problems they had to land at 1e Shima. Before the torpedo-bomber could be repaired, the commander of Okinawa ordered to destroy the airfield on Shima. So the plane was stuck on Shima and was captured by soldiers of the US army 77th infantry division.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1B131stKokutaijapan_zps8f66b549.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1B131stKokutaijapan_zps8f66b549.jpg.html)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 11, 2014, 01:28:40 AM
The captured Fw 190T-1B was transferred to TAIU-SWPA in the Phillipines and tested. Later on it was send to the US and was used as a trainings-aircraft in OTU at NAS Vero Beach. here are the two different color-profils of the same plane.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1BTAIU-SWPAJune1945_zps4e24d5fb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1BTAIU-SWPAJune1945_zps4e24d5fb.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1BVFN-10OTUNASVerobeach1945_zpsc5b76da8.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1BVFN-10OTUNASVerobeach1945_zpsc5b76da8.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on May 11, 2014, 04:58:05 AM
Really like your interpretation of what an estate wagon Skyshark would look like.  The Fw-190T is nothing but brilliant too. 
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 12, 2014, 02:06:24 AM
Thank you!

In February 1945 the first Fw 190T-1A's were delivered to operating squadrons at the West. After Operation Bodenplatte had failed the Luftwaffe tried to stop the Allied advance from the West to conquer Germany territory and send in Me 262's and Fw 190T-1A's. One of the pilots had to make a forced landing at Ophoven airfield in Belgium in March 1945 and so the Fw 190T-1A fell in the hands of a British regiment which was resting nearby. They got the plane intact and it was send to the UK for testing at Farnborough. here is the one in May 1945.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/FW/Fw190T-1AMZ355Farnboueough1945_zps0f0a3213.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/FW/Fw190T-1AMZ355Farnboueough1945_zps0f0a3213.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 27, 2014, 01:49:34 AM
Back to the Decimator and Douglas. When Douglas won the competition with the biplane XFD-1, it didn't went into production, because the Navy stopped ordering biplanes. Douglas was already busy with the TBD-1 torpedobomber and decided to use the basic concept to built a fighter-bomber for the US Navy. Already Grumman and Brewster were also busy with their XF4F and the F2A. The design had the name XF2D-1 but was later tansferred in XFBD-1, a prototype which could be used as a bomber and as a fighter. In 1938 the FBD-1 went into production as a fighter and in 1939 came the FBD-1A, the fighter-bomber variant.
It was delivered tot the USN and USMC in 1939 and was still flying by the end of 1942, when already the F4F's were in combat and the F6F was nearby. The Dutch government ordered the -1A and send them to KNIL in the Indies (they had still their tailhooks). Here are two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1VMF-121USMC_zps3f55f754.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1VMF-121USMC_zps3f55f754.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1AML-KNIL_zps3650d990.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1AML-KNIL_zps3650d990.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 27, 2014, 02:16:25 AM
Cool.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on May 27, 2014, 10:27:49 AM
Thanks for this enrichment of the warbird family! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on May 29, 2014, 11:35:36 AM
Happy Birthday, lauhof!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 29, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
Thanks for this enrichment of the warbird family! :-*
Cool.

Thanks Guys! More to come..

Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 29, 2014, 07:33:30 PM
Happy Birthday, lauhof!

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan!!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 02, 2014, 03:12:04 AM
The first Country to buy the FBD-1 was England. They were at war with Nazy-Germany in 1939 and in the phony-war period they bought the FBD-1 to fill the FAA squadrons. here is one from NAS 822 which was still flying in 1943.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1822NAS1943_zpse8265736.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1822NAS1943_zpse8265736.jpg.html)

When The Dutch Indies were conquered by the Japanese several pilots escaped with their FBD-1A's to Australia. There their planes were enlisted with Australian squadrons and used for training purposes and Home-defence actions. Here is one from No 83 squadron at Coomalie.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1A83sqnRAAF_zps593c5577.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasFBD-1A83sqnRAAF_zps593c5577.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 07, 2014, 07:38:05 PM
Douglas was already working on the SBD, but used the main part of the FBD to develop a scout- and scout bomber version; The SFD-1 and the SFBD-1. The USN tested both planes ashore and on the carrier Saratoga. Two squadron were equipped : the VS-41 with the SFBD and the VS-72 with the SFD. Here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSFD-1VS-711941_zpsf6163a5a.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSFD-1VS-711941_zpsf6163a5a.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSFBD-1VS-411942_zpsf149480a.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSFBD-1VS-411942_zpsf149480a.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 08, 2014, 03:20:38 AM
There' something about that nose…makes me think a Biplane version would look good. ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on June 08, 2014, 12:13:29 PM
I like the look of that single-seater!  A real brute  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 11, 2014, 10:08:09 PM
I like the look of that single-seater!  A real brute  :)

Thanks Apophenia!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 11, 2014, 10:21:02 PM
There' something about that nose…makes me think a Biplane version would look good. ;)


Actually the XSFBD prototype was in it's development a biplane scout-fighter--bomber. The tests were pretty good and although the US Navy was heading towards monoplanes, Douglas built a few and at the end the USN gave permission to test the biplanes on board the Lexington. Vejtasa and Edward Hall from VS-2 were very fond of the plane. So the biplanes were still on board when the Lexington sailed to the Pacific theatre and did some scouting during the Battle of Coral Sea. The plane from Lt Leppla took part in the fighting.
Here is the prototype XSFBD-1 and the plane from Leppla.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasXSBFD-1protNASAnacostia1940_zps13cdd77d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasXSBFD-1protNASAnacostia1940_zps13cdd77d.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1VS-2194202594_zpsf54f8938.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1VS-2194202594_zpsf54f8938.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on June 11, 2014, 10:54:11 PM
Now those I quite like! Very much like an alternative to the SBC Helldiver.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on June 11, 2014, 10:54:38 PM
That looks so right its freaky. :o

Top job!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 12, 2014, 02:58:28 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on June 12, 2014, 11:29:49 AM
Now those I quite like! Very much like an alternative to the SBC Helldiver.

Yes, they have a definite SBC feel about them. Very nice!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on June 12, 2014, 11:59:13 AM
Totally digging that 1942 SFBD-1  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 15, 2014, 10:46:57 PM
Thank you all Guys for your friendly remarks!  :)

New Zealand ordered several biplane SFBD's for their homeland scouting -and patrol missions. Here is one from No 25 Squadron:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1A25SqnRNZAF_zps287bdd49.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1A25SqnRNZAF_zps287bdd49.jpg.html)

Vejtasa flew his biplane SFBD during the Battle of Coral Sea:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1AVS-5Vejtasa_zpsdf5ea9b8.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1AVS-5Vejtasa_zpsdf5ea9b8.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on June 17, 2014, 01:15:11 AM
Quite nice. How about some Atlantic 1943-44 use on the escort carriers, such as a replacement for the Swordfish ASW?

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 17, 2014, 03:52:48 AM
Quite nice. How about some Atlantic 1943-44 use on the escort carriers, such as a replacement for the Swordfish ASW?

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan!  Very nice thought! Keeps me busy for this week!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 18, 2014, 09:39:16 PM
Several SFD-1's were equipped with floats and delivered to cruisers. They were used for patrol services. here is one from the USS Columbia, doing patrol work during the invasion of Guadalcanal.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSFD-1VCS-12USSColumbia_zpsf4a2c1a6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSFD-1VCS-12USSColumbia_zpsf4a2c1a6.jpg.html)

The Royal Navy was looking for a replacement for their Swordfish on board carriers to protect the convoys and for submarine hunting. They bought several SFBD's for patrol duties but also for torpedo actions. Here is one from the HMS Ark Royal

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1810SqnFAA_zps5b3e0dad.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1810SqnFAA_zps5b3e0dad.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on June 18, 2014, 11:11:48 PM
Yep, that works. Good job!

Since you did the floats, you may want to look at putting the floats on the biplane and removing the retractable gear as a replacement for the Curtiss SOC Seagull (especially since the Seamew didn't work out). That'd open up some more options, too.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 19, 2014, 02:32:12 AM
The last two are great!  I don't know which I like more!!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 19, 2014, 03:40:08 AM
Yep, that works. Good job!

Since you did the floats, you may want to look at putting the floats on the biplane and removing the retractable gear as a replacement for the Curtiss SOC Seagull (especially since the Seamew didn't work out). That'd open up some more options, too.

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan!  Good Idea! I'm thinking already of a USN and FAA one!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 19, 2014, 03:40:44 AM
The last two are great!  I don't know which I like more!!!

Thanks for the compliment!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 21, 2014, 09:25:24 PM
The SFBD-1 as a replacement for the Swordfish was a real success for the Royal Navy. Several orders were placed to have a float-version to use on board the cruisers. Douglas delivered 15 SFBD-1B's float, which were assembled by Fairey. Here is one from No 700. Sqn:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BNo700SqnFAA1941_zps92eb2e96.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BNo700SqnFAA1941_zps92eb2e96.jpg.html)

Following the example and the success of the SFBD-1 and the problems with the new Curtiss SO3C Seamew, the USN ordered several SFBD-1B floatplanes to replace the Curtiss SOC seagull. Here is one from VCS-13:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BfloatVCS-131943USSBiloxi_zps63151b1e.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BfloatVCS-131943USSBiloxi_zps63151b1e.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on June 22, 2014, 12:04:37 AM
Am I crazy wondering what would happen if a SFBD dogfights a F1M?  ;D
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on June 22, 2014, 01:05:06 AM
Something about those really look balanced. These are some of my favorite profiles that you've ever made, Lauhof. Great work!

It looks like you have some funkiness going on with your roundel transparency or layer blend style, though. You can see the camo behind it.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 22, 2014, 02:35:15 AM
Am I crazy wondering what would happen if a SFBD dogfights a F1M?  ;D

It would beat him out of the sky in my point of view! 8)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 22, 2014, 02:39:04 AM
Something about those really look balanced. These are some of my favorite profiles that you've ever made, Lauhof. Great work!

It looks like you have some funkiness going on with your roundel transparency or layer blend style, though. You can see the camo behind it.

Cheers,

Logan

Hi Logan,

Thanks for the nice compliment. It was real fun doing it. You are right about the roundel. Sharp sight you've got here. It's the second time i forget to put my transparency all the way back to zero. Don't want to get sloppy.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: raafif on June 22, 2014, 08:48:35 AM
now that it's been pointed out, I see it too :D
For the un-initiated, roundels were usually painted over the base colour then cam added after the roundel.

How about trying some heavy weathering, oil-staining etc, Lauhof ?
(remember that P-51B in Burma with rain-run white stripes on the fuselage ?)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 23, 2014, 02:44:26 AM
now that it's been pointed out, I see it too :D
For the un-initiated, roundels were usually painted over the base colour then cam added after the roundel.

How about trying some heavy weathering, oil-staining etc, Lauhof ?
(remember that P-51B in Burma with rain-run white stripes on the fuselage ?)

Hi raafif,

That's the part i still are reluctant to begin with. I know with my state of making drawings i am at the edge of going to do some weathering. My draw-program doesn't have a good weathering-texture. I have to use some other filters to experience with. But you are right. It's the time to go on experiencing. So we'll see.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 03, 2014, 12:08:40 AM
now that it's been pointed out, I see it too :D
For the un-initiated, roundels were usually painted over the base colour then cam added after the roundel.

How about trying some heavy weathering, oil-staining etc, Lauhof ?
(remember that P-51B in Burma with rain-run white stripes on the fuselage ?)


Hi raafif,

That's the part i still are reluctant to begin with. I know with my state of making drawings i am at the edge of going to do some weathering. My draw-program doesn't have a good weathering-texture. I have to use some other filters to experience with. But you are right. It's the time to go on experiencing. So we'll see.

regards
Lauhof


In need of more torpedo-bombers the Royal navy also bought several Devastators to support their fleet. here is one from 818 Sqn HMS Ark Royal in 1940:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTBD-1L7678818SqnFAA1940_zps6b3a8857.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasTBD-1L7678818SqnFAA1940_zps6b3a8857.jpg.html)

Following the actions of the Royal Navy, the Dutch Government in London bought several TBD-1's to strengthen their airforce in the Dutch Indies. They were used as scout-bombers with the ML-KNIL. Several TBD-1's escaped after the occupation by the Japanese to Australia and fought further more under the command of the RAAF. Here is one from 120 Sqn in 1944:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasTBD-1ML-KNIL120sqn1944_zpsae2f48c6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasTBD-1ML-KNIL120sqn1944_zpsae2f48c6.jpg.html)

..and watch my weathering attempts

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 03, 2014, 02:22:14 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 05, 2014, 03:10:16 PM
Thanks!

Just before the outbreak of WWII Poland ordered several SFBD's for naval training purposes. When Germany invaded Poland they were used as bomber-planes against German naval attacks. Here is one of them:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BPoland7021939Puck_zps2b8e6ecf.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BPoland7021939Puck_zps2b8e6ecf.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on July 05, 2014, 04:26:49 PM
I particularly love the biplane float plane versions, they just look so realistic and believable.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 06, 2014, 08:33:07 PM
Thank you!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 06, 2014, 11:43:04 PM
Also the RAAF bought several SFBD-1B's for supporting the fightersquadrons with scouting duties. Here is one from No 84 Squadron at Merauke:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BNo84SquadronRAAF1943_zpse4146495.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BNo84SquadronRAAF1943_zpse4146495.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 07, 2014, 12:29:38 AM
I love this one without machine-guns... :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 07, 2014, 02:42:07 AM
How about an Air-Sea Rescue one?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 07, 2014, 06:26:16 PM
Thanks Guys!!

The ASR-version will be on my drawing table!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on July 07, 2014, 07:07:57 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on July 09, 2014, 04:04:52 AM
Thanks!

Just before the outbreak of WWII Poland ordered several SFBD's for naval training purposes. When Germany invaded Poland they were used as bomber-planes against German naval attacks. Here is one of them:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BPoland7021939Puck_zps2b8e6ecf.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1BPoland7021939Puck_zps2b8e6ecf.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof


Nice one! Could we please see a Finnish version?

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 09, 2014, 09:19:34 PM
How about an Air-Sea Rescue one?


At the end of WW2 the Royal navy used several SFBD-1B's floatplanes as air-sea rescue planes. They were modified as SFBD-1C/ASR. Some of them were still active at he end of the fourties. Here is one from HMS Vengeance in 1948:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg.html)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 09, 2014, 09:21:32 PM
Thanks!


Nice one! Could we please see a Finnish version?

Regards,

CPT Mike

Hi Mike,

I'll give it a try!!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on July 09, 2014, 10:54:25 PM
PLEASE keep making these!!!!!!!  Love bi-plane floatplanes  8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on July 09, 2014, 10:56:47 PM
Great work, lauhof! I'm glad I proposed the biplane on floats variant, you're doing fine work with it!

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 10, 2014, 03:04:22 AM
How about an Air-Sea Rescue one?


At the end of WW2 the Royal navy used several SFBD-1B's floatplanes as air-sea rescue planes. They were modified as SFBD-1C/ASR. Some of them were still active at he end of the fourties. Here is one from HMS Vengeance in 1948:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg.html[/url])

regards
lauhof


 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 10, 2014, 03:20:32 PM
Great work, lauhof! I'm glad I proposed the biplane on floats variant, you're doing fine work with it!

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks Logan! You were right about that proposal. It brought me new creative possibilities.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 10, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
How about an Air-Sea Rescue one?


At the end of WW2 the Royal navy used several SFBD-1B's floatplanes as air-sea rescue planes. They were modified as SFBD-1C/ASR. Some of them were still active at he end of the fourties. Here is one from HMS Vengeance in 1948:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1C-ASRNo814sqnFAA1948_zps07001550.jpg.html[/url])

regards
lauhof


 :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*


Thanks!!!!! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 13, 2014, 03:45:44 PM
Thanks!



Nice one! Could we please see a Finnish version?

Regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

I'll give it a try!!

regards
lauhof


The Finnish Government bought several SFBD's for training and scouting purposes. Here is one from Lelv 6:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfinlandlelv-6_zpsd88b8021.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfinlandlelv-6_zpsd88b8021.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: tsrjoe on July 14, 2014, 04:50:38 PM
oooh now that I like, def suits the scheme too, brilliant :)

cheers, Joe

ps. hmm, now in the winter with a whitewash breaking up the camouflage yet further ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 14, 2014, 11:18:32 PM
oooh now that I like, def suits the scheme too, brilliant :)

cheers, Joe

ps. hmm, now in the winter with a whitewash breaking up the camouflage yet further ;)

thanks Joe! Wintercamouflage looks to me as a good idea!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on July 15, 2014, 03:59:26 AM
Thanks!



Nice one! Could we please see a Finnish version?

Regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

I'll give it a try!!

regards
lauhof


The Finnish Government bought several SFBD's for training and scouting purposes. Here is one from Lelv 6:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfinlandlelv-6_zpsd88b8021.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfinlandlelv-6_zpsd88b8021.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof


Wow!  8) Beautiful job  :D  As usual, you captured the idea exactly and brought it to life  :) 

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on July 16, 2014, 08:59:46 AM
Love the Ilmavoimat version :)  A Ripon replacement?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 17, 2014, 03:59:00 AM
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Love the Ilmavoimat version :)  A Ripon replacement?

Thanks! Good be a good replacement for the blackburn ripon! ;)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 19, 2014, 10:04:48 PM
oooh now that I like, def suits the scheme too, brilliant :)

cheers, Joe

ps. hmm, now in the winter with a whitewash breaking up the camouflage yet further ;)


Here is one from the same Finnish squadron in winter colouring!

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfin3a_zps51b31ec6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/DouglasSBFD-1Bfin3a_zps51b31ec6.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 19, 2014, 10:18:32 PM
The Naval aircraft Factory complained to the Bureau of Aeronautics that they didn't subscribe a contest when they gave Grumman a contract to develop the F2F. When the USN wanted a successor for the F2F, they asked Grumman to develop the F3F and gave NAF the opportunity to compete with it.
the NAF started to work on the XFN-1 but weren't able to match a sufficient engine to their full-metal design and asked for support with the Seversky company.
So together they delivered the XFN-1 to NAS Anacostia. The plane was able to compete with the F3F but what the Navy didn't like was the fixed landing-gear. So they asked NAF to change the model with a retractable gear.
And so it happened that both NAF and Grumman were contracted to deliver a fighter to the Navy. The NAF-Seversky FN-1 was delivered to the carriers as a fighter/bomber.
In this way a new line was developed which ended with the navy variant from the P-35 (the F2N). More to come...

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/01NAF-SeverskyXFN-11934Anacostia_zpsa19e55c6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/01NAF-SeverskyXFN-11934Anacostia_zpsa19e55c6.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/02NAF-SeverskyFN-11935USN_zps4c4d6d10.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/02NAF-SeverskyFN-11935USN_zps4c4d6d10.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 23, 2014, 11:19:29 PM
In 1935 a heavy contest was held for the USN and the USAAC with the first all-metal monoplane. Curtiss came with the P-36 and Grumman was still testing the F4F-prototype, while NAF-Seversky came with the FN-2, a predecessor of the later P-35. The USN, who had already the FN-1 on their carrier-deck's, was fond of the FN-2, so it was the first monoplane all metal fighter who came on board their carriers, here are two examples, which were still flying in 1941:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-21941VF-3_zpsf1532c7c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-21941VF-3_zpsf1532c7c.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-21937VF-42_zps9bbe2b52.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-21937VF-42_zps9bbe2b52.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on July 24, 2014, 05:56:59 AM
Love the FN-2  >:D   Hope we see some exports and later developments!  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 24, 2014, 03:21:58 PM
Love the FN-2  >:D   Hope we see some exports and later developments!  :)

Thank you! Yes there will be more to come...

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 27, 2014, 06:48:23 PM
More to come, but first we take a sidestep. The Vought Company rebuilt the Northrop A-3 on their on account as the Vought V-141 and slightly changed it in the V-143. They joined the contest with the FN-fighter but lost it. There were problems with the engine and the possibility of spinning. But the plane had a good handling in ground-attack missions and so the Marines preferred the V-143 than the FN-1. So they asked Vought to make some changes to the machine. Vought sought help with the Naval aircraft factory, which just won the contest. NAF adjusted the fuselage and upgraded the engine, so the FNU-1 was born and was accepted by the Bureau of Aeronautics. Here are two examples from the Marines:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/NAF-VoughtFNU-1VMF-111Samoa_zps8c02ac19.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/NAF-VoughtFNU-1VMF-111Samoa_zps8c02ac19.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vought/NAF-VoughtFNU-1VMF-121_zps5fc34f6c.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vought/NAF-VoughtFNU-1VMF-121_zps5fc34f6c.jpg.html)

The FNU with the tailhook had a slightly longer cockpit for better carrier-landings.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 28, 2014, 02:09:59 AM
I like!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 28, 2014, 03:01:03 PM
Thank you!

In 1938 NAF-Seversky came with the FN-3 with an upgraded engine and a slightly smaller fuselage. It was good to handle England tested the FN-3 at Martlesham and ordered 40 fighters for their Navy. Also several FN-3's were delivered to the USN.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-3804SqnFAA_zps55a4902f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-3804SqnFAA_zps55a4902f.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-3VF-721942_zpsaf1798f2.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyFN-3VF-721942_zpsaf1798f2.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 28, 2014, 07:13:26 PM
Also the USAAC was interested in the FN-3. It appeared to be a solid ground-attack aircraft. So they tested at Wright Field and ordered 35 FN-3, they were renamed PGA-3 (Pursuit-ground-attack).
Here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-355thPS_zps79e27664.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-355thPS_zps79e27664.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-347thPS1941_zps164c4f36.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-347thPS1941_zps164c4f36.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on July 31, 2014, 11:52:32 PM
Also the USAAC was interested in the FN-3. It appeared to be a solid ground-attack aircraft. So they tested at Wright Field and ordered 35 FN-3, they were renamed PGA-3 (Pursuit-ground-attack).
Here are two examples:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-355thPS_zps79e27664.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-355thPS_zps79e27664.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-347thPS1941_zps164c4f36.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-347thPS1941_zps164c4f36.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

Love your latest work here; is it possible some of these made their way down to Mexico?

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 01, 2014, 12:43:25 AM
Thanks - maybe Mike! First I have to do some early birds from the USAAC with their silver fuselage and colourful scheme!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 01, 2014, 01:30:25 AM
Thanks - maybe Mike! First I have to do some early birds from the USAAC with their silver fuselage and colourful scheme!

regards
Lauhof

Sorry about that earlier typo!  :o  Got in corrected.... :)

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on August 01, 2014, 09:33:04 AM
Very interesting.  So, will the design evolve along P-35-->P-43-->P-47 lines or more along the lines of the very similar Reggiane fighters (though likely with the naval ones sticking with air-cooled engines)?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 01, 2014, 11:58:51 PM
Thanks - maybe Mike! First I have to do some early birds from the USAAC with their silver fuselage and colourful scheme!

regards
Lauhof

Maybe the USAAC had a few of these at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41???  ;D
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2014, 08:04:08 PM
Very interesting.  So, will the design evolve along P-35-->P-43-->P-47 lines or more along the lines of the very similar Reggiane fighters (though likely with the naval ones sticking with air-cooled engines)?

Thanks! About the evolving. I don't know yet. I have still some P-35 changes in mind and thought of the P-41 an 43 but also of the Reggiane. We'll see

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 02, 2014, 08:04:40 PM
Thanks - maybe Mike! First I have to do some early birds from the USAAC with their silver fuselage and colourful scheme!

regards
Lauhof

Maybe the USAAC had a few of these at Pearl Harbor on 12/7/41???  ;D

I think so Mike!

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 07, 2014, 02:48:39 AM
The PGA-3 were delivered to the USAAC in 1938. here are some silverfinish pre-war models:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-321thPS_zps57fa685f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-321thPS_zps57fa685f.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-377thPS_zps457a0cdc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-377thPS_zps457a0cdc.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-315thPG_zps641d95be.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-315thPG_zps641d95be.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 09, 2014, 11:42:51 PM
Several PGA-3's were bought by Sweden to protect their neutral state. here is one from 3erd Squadron F8 Flottilj:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3F8sweden_zpsc04fc6ea.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3F8sweden_zpsc04fc6ea.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 09, 2014, 11:45:29 PM
End of 1939 NAF-Seversky came with an Scout-edition of the FN-fighter It was also capable to use as a bomber-plane. Several were send to the Navy squadrons:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1VB-161943_zps57336005.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1VB-161943_zps57336005.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1VB-305_zps60fc9347.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1VB-305_zps60fc9347.jpg.html)

also came NAF-seversky with a floatversion the SFB-1B. It was used on board several cruisers and carriers as scoutplane and for reconnaissance-duties.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1BBuNo05541sept1943_zps1482c645.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskySFN-1BBuNo05541sept1943_zps1482c645.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 10, 2014, 01:21:38 AM
Great colour work on the Swedish one, congratulations! And I love the shape of the floatplane derivative!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 10, 2014, 04:00:52 AM
Great colour work on the Swedish one, congratulations! And I love the shape of the floatplane derivative!

Ditto!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on August 10, 2014, 05:43:11 AM
Beautiful!  The floatplane/amphibious version (I see the retracted wheels) looks nicely evolved from known RL designs.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: dy031101 on August 11, 2014, 11:21:25 AM
Those NAF-Severskies are so adorable  ;D
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 11, 2014, 04:53:33 PM
Thank you, Guys!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 11, 2014, 04:56:39 PM
Hello Lauhof,

Love your latest work here; is it possible some of these made their way down to Mexico?

Regards,

CPT Mike
[/quote]

Hi Mike,

When Mexico declared war upon Germany and Japan, the US trained Mexican Pilots and send them with the PGA-3's to the Philippines for strafing and reconaissance actions. The PGA's were still flying at the end of the Fifties. here are some examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-358thFG_zps75401c27.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-358thFG_zps75401c27.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3210sqn1020_zpsdb17a737.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3210sqn1020_zpsdb17a737.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3201SqnMexico1955_zps8f67bcd0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3201SqnMexico1955_zps8f67bcd0.jpg.html)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on August 11, 2014, 11:56:52 PM
Hello Lauhof,

Love your latest work here; is it possible some of these made their way down to Mexico?

Regards,

CPT Mike


Hi Mike,

When Mexico declared war upon Germany and Japan, the US trained Mexican Pilots and send them with the PGA-3's to the Philippines for strafing and reconaissance actions. The PGA's were still flying at the end of the Fifties. here are some examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-358thFG_zps75401c27.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-358thFG_zps75401c27.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3210sqn1020_zpsdb17a737.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3210sqn1020_zpsdb17a737.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3201SqnMexico1955_zps8f67bcd0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NAF/NAF-SeverskyPGA-3201SqnMexico1955_zps8f67bcd0.jpg.html)

regards
lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

Very nice set of FAM PGA-3's  8)  I especially like the last one; that one comes closest to what I was thinking  :)

Thanks,

CPT Mike

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on August 15, 2014, 07:06:50 AM
Very nice! Your SFN-1B floatfighter is still my fav, though  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 14, 2014, 11:04:36 PM
Thank you, Guys!

At the end of the Thirties the USN was experimenting together with their suppliers in which way their fighters would be develop. Some engineers stayed with their biplane concept and others were changing from biplane to monoplane. The only monoplane fighter at that time was the F2A Buffalo, but the Navy was not fond of the plane and their competitor , the XF4F-2 monoplane, was although faster but less maneuverable. So Grumman fell back to their F3F and made an monoplane version - the F3F-2M -, at the same time they changed the fuselage of the XF4F-1 with its biplane wing and came with a faster and maneuverable F4F-1.
Both planes were delivered to the USN. Here are the two examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F3F-1BuNo0991VF-3USSLexington1942_zpsd88925dd.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F3F-1BuNo0991VF-3USSLexington1942_zpsd88925dd.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Grumman/F4F-1BuNo1933VF-7USSwasp1940_zps5412d5a1.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Grumman/F4F-1BuNo1933VF-7USSwasp1940_zps5412d5a1.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 15, 2014, 01:24:01 AM
I love the F3F, most of all :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 17, 2014, 03:15:28 PM
Thank you Tophe!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 09, 2014, 06:43:58 PM
Koolhoven, a Dutch Aircraft manufacturer, learned his skills at Deperdussin and Armstrong-Whirtworth. He was actually the first Dutch designer, although Fokker got the credits. Koolhoven couldn't cope with success Fokker had during WWI and later on as a civil aircraft designer. Koolhoven developed in 1936 the scout-twoseater F.K.52 and sold several to the Dutch Airforce (Lva) but Finland was the biggest purchaser. Koolhoven was eager to build a fighter aircraft because several attempts in the past weren't really successful. The Finnish airforce suggested to modify the F.K.52 model in a single-seat fighter. They delivered the engine from a captured Polikarpov I-190.
In 1937 Koolhoven succeeded in his new fighter-biplane: The F.K.52C-1. The Dutch Airforce wasn't interested but the ML-KNIL wanted the plane in the Indies. Finland ordered several planes with a new engine the F.K.52C-2. it was at that moment the fastest biplane-fighter and it obtained a lot of success in the war against the soviet Union. here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-12-VLG-IVML-KNIL_zps858844ff.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-12-VLG-IVML-KNIL_zps858844ff.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-24-Lelv24Suomi1941_zps8cbdc261.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-24-Lelv24Suomi1941_zps8cbdc261.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on December 09, 2014, 11:08:45 PM
THOSE are absolutely lovely, Lauhof. Fine job.

Thanks,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 10, 2014, 12:16:29 AM
Thank you, Logan! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on December 10, 2014, 04:23:54 AM
Koolhoven, a Dutch Aircraft manufacturer, learned his skills at Deperdussin and Armstrong-Whirtworth. He was actually the first Dutch designer, although Fokker got the credits. Koolhoven couldn't cope with success Fokker had during WWI and later on as a civil aircraft designer. Koolhoven developed in 1936 the scout-twoseater F.K.52 and sold several to the Dutch Airforce (Lva) but Finland was the biggest purchaser. Koolhoven was eager to build a fighter aircraft because several attempts in the past weren't really successful. The Finnish airforce suggested to modify the F.K.52 model in a single-seat fighter. They delivered the engine from a captured Polikarpov I-190.
In 1937 Koolhoven succeeded in his new fighter-biplane: The F.K.52C-1. The Dutch Airforce wasn't interested but the ML-KNIL wanted the plane in the Indies. Finland ordered several planes with a new engine the F.K.52C-2. it was at that moment the fastest biplane-fighter and it obtained a lot of success in the war against the soviet Union. here are two examples:

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-12-VLG-IVML-KNIL_zps858844ff.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-12-VLG-IVML-KNIL_zps858844ff.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-24-Lelv24Suomi1941_zps8cbdc261.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/KoolhovenFK52C-24-Lelv24Suomi1941_zps8cbdc261.jpg.html[/url])

regards
Lauhof


Hello Lauhof,

Outstanding work on these profiles.

Perhaps a French and/or an Italian version?  I don't know what the backstories might be, but the visuals would be very interesting....

Thanks,

CPT Mike



MOD edit: Quote fixed!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 13, 2014, 05:32:30 PM
Hi Mike,

Maybe a Frech version. ;)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 14, 2014, 11:47:30 PM
Koolhoven made contact in 1936 with his former aircraft designer Deperdussin in France to inform if the French Armee de l'Air could be interested in buying the F.K.52C. The French government agreed under the condition that the planes were licensed built. So Deperdussin started their own development of the F.K.52 and came with the F.K.52B-1 for the French Airforce. here is won from the 1st Eskadre.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DeperdussinFK52B-11ereEskadreArmeedeair1938_zps9d08a757.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DeperdussinFK52B-11ereEskadreArmeedeair1938_zps9d08a757.jpg.html)

With the possibility of war in Europe Koolhoven arranged in 1938 a joint-venture with Dessouter in England to further built the F.K.52. Several parts of FK.52 were shipped to England and assembled by Dessouter. The RAF wasn't interested, because they had the Gladiator and the spitfire and Hurricane were developing. But the FAA bought several aircraft. Here is one from Malta in 1940

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-2FighterFlightMaltaHal-FarMaltaMayJuly19040_zpsf4e2f2d0.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-2FighterFlightMaltaHal-FarMaltaMayJuly19040_zpsf4e2f2d0.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on December 17, 2014, 01:24:29 AM
Hello Lauhof,

Very nice work on the French version!  Thanks.  Do you think some of these might have been exported to Asia?  I think China would have been a buyer for this aircraft...

Thanks again for the French version...

Regards,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 18, 2014, 04:46:56 AM
Nice work with the last ones
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on December 20, 2014, 11:03:05 PM
Thanks Guys!! ;)

When WWII arrived Koolhoven managed to transfer his company to England just before the invasion of Holland. FAA was very pleased with the FK.52C-2 as a supplement to the Fairey Swordfish. With the treat of German encounters the Irish Air Corps (IAC) obtained several F.K.52's. Here is one from the first fighter squadron.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-21stFighterSquadronIAC1939_zps97a7a87d.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-21stFighterSquadronIAC1939_zps97a7a87d.jpg.html)

The Dutch government in London ordered more FK.52's for their airforce in the Indies and the planes were shipped to the US but never reached the Indies. They were sold to the US Marines and the reserve squadron VMF-111 was equipped with them. Here is one based on Samoa.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-2VMF-111Samoa1942_zpsf0c03ac5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Koolhoven/Koolhoven-DessouterFK52C-2VMF-111Samoa1942_zpsf0c03ac5.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on December 21, 2014, 02:17:11 AM
I like the idea of the Irish one. :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on March 31, 2015, 04:10:47 PM
In 1936, Hawks had approached Howell W. "Pete" Miller, chief engineer for the Granville Brothers and responsible for their famous Gee Bee racers, to create a racing aircraft from his own design, the Hawks Miller HM-1. Miller rebuild the aircraft in 1938 as a two-seater for military purposes. The aircraft was first renamed the Miller HM-2, but when company was reorganized as the Miller Aircraft Co., it was called the MAC-1 and Military Aircraft HM-1.
The Usaac was interested in the monoplane and after tests a contract was signed for six aircraft, used as a fighter-bomber. They were send to the 17th PS. But after several training missions the Usaac wasn’t satisfied and cancelled the contract for more.
The USN, busy to obtain monoplanes for fighter and bomber duties, was also interested and Miller and Hawks upgraded the HM-1 with a different  canopy and an all metal fuselage, called the MH-1A.
The MH-1A fighter-bomber was ment to use on board carriers, but the USN was also testing the SBD from Douglas as a replacement for the BT-1. So the first MH-1A’s were delivered to the Marines. Before the SBD dauntless was delivered several MH-1A’s were also delivered to squadrons on board the carriers, and there was in 1939 an MH-1B torpedo-version.

Here are the examples:

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1%2017th%20PS%20Usaac%201938_zpsexhujqwc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1%2017th%20PS%20Usaac%201938_zpsexhujqwc.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1A%20VMB-1%20USMC%201939_zpskb7qbk7h.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1A%20VMB-1%20USMC%201939_zpskb7qbk7h.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1B%20VT8%20USS%20Hornet%20USN%201942_zpsfd9d5oo6.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1B%20VT8%20USS%20Hornet%20USN%201942_zpsfd9d5oo6.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Volkodav on March 31, 2015, 08:16:54 PM
I would love to see an isometric of the TB
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on March 31, 2015, 10:10:22 PM
Weird, but neat. Definitely a compact little platform for a carrier.

I'm actually surprised you didn't take more elements from the Gee Bee Q.E.D.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 01, 2015, 02:33:49 AM
I would love to see an isometric of the TB

Hi Volkodav

That would be nice, but i can't draw it. A Pity, but thanks for the compliment

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 01, 2015, 02:35:44 AM
Weird, but neat. Definitely a compact little platform for a carrier.

I'm actually surprised you didn't take more elements from the Gee Bee Q.E.D.

Cheers,

Logan

Thanks for the compliment. I already thought about the Gee-Bee bird, but as a fighter plane for later on, but you gave me a new idea about it. Thanks!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 03, 2015, 11:09:24 PM
With the arrival of the SBD Dauntless Hawks-Miller were anxious to loose their contract with the USN. Miller had already contacted the Granville Company for un upgrade version of the torpedo-bomber MH-1b. End 1939 they came with the MH-2A Bomberversion, a larger and heavier upgrade of the MH-1B. Here is one example from VT-2.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-2A%20VT-2_zps40z8sewr.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-2A%20VT-2_zps40z8sewr.jpg.html)

Begin 1940 Granville managed to develop an faster smaller version, the MH-3 as a fighter. The USN contracted them for 60 fighters. here is one from VF-16.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-3%20VF-16%201943_zpscaf8mvxb.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-3%20VF-16%201943_zpscaf8mvxb.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on April 06, 2015, 02:40:04 AM
Better and better... :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Senji on April 07, 2015, 04:56:04 AM
Nice Koolhoven biplane
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: cptmike2012 on April 07, 2015, 11:58:06 PM
In 1936, Hawks had approached Howell W. "Pete" Miller, chief engineer for the Granville Brothers and responsible for their famous Gee Bee racers, to create a racing aircraft from his own design, the Hawks Miller HM-1. Miller rebuild the aircraft in 1938 as a two-seater for military purposes. The aircraft was first renamed the Miller HM-2, but when company was reorganized as the Miller Aircraft Co., it was called the MAC-1 and Military Aircraft HM-1.
The Usaac was interested in the monoplane and after tests a contract was signed for six aircraft, used as a fighter-bomber. They were send to the 17th PS. But after several training missions the Usaac wasn’t satisfied and cancelled the contract for more.
The USN, busy to obtain monoplanes for fighter and bomber duties, was also interested and Miller and Hawks upgraded the HM-1 with a different  canopy and an all metal fuselage, called the MH-1A.
The MH-1A fighter-bomber was ment to use on board carriers, but the USN was also testing the SBD from Douglas as a replacement for the BT-1. So the first MH-1A’s were delivered to the Marines. Before the SBD dauntless was delivered several MH-1A’s were also delivered to squadrons on board the carriers, and there was in 1939 an MH-1B torpedo-version.

Here are the examples:

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1%2017th%20PS%20Usaac%201938_zpsexhujqwc.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1%2017th%20PS%20Usaac%201938_zpsexhujqwc.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1A%20VMB-1%20USMC%201939_zpskb7qbk7h.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1A%20VMB-1%20USMC%201939_zpskb7qbk7h.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1B%20VT8%20USS%20Hornet%20USN%201942_zpsfd9d5oo6.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Hawks-Miller%20MH-1/Hawks%20Howell%20W%20Miller%20MH-1B%20VT8%20USS%20Hornet%20USN%201942_zpsfd9d5oo6.jpg.html[/url])



Hi Lauhof,

The canopy lines of the HM-1 remind me of a Yak-18.  Could you possibly make a Soviet version of the HM-1?

Thanks,

CPT Mike
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 11, 2015, 03:00:45 PM
In 1936, Hawks had approached Howell W. "Pete" Miller, chief engineer for the Granville Brothers and responsible for their famous Gee Bee racers, to create a racing aircraft from his own design, the Hawks Miller HM-1. Miller rebuild the aircraft in 1938 as a two-seater for military purposes. The aircraft was first renamed the Miller HM-2, but when company was reorganized as the Miller Aircraft Co., it was called the MAC-1 and Military Aircraft HM-1.
The Usaac was interested in the monoplane and after tests a contract was signed for six aircraft, used as a fighter-bomber. They were send to the 17th PS. But after several training missions the Usaac wasn’t satisfied and cancelled the contract for more.
The USN, busy to obtain monoplanes for fighter and bomber duties, was also interested and Miller and Hawks upgraded the HM-1 with a different  canopy and an all metal fuselage, called the MH-1A.
The MH-1A fighter-bomber was ment to use on board carriers, but the USN was also testing the SBD from Douglas as a replacement for the BT-1. So the first MH-1A’s were delivered to the Marines. Before the SBD dauntless was delivered several MH-1A’s were also delivered to squadrons on board the carriers, and there was in 1939 an MH-1B torpedo-version.

Here are the examples:

regards
Lauhof



Hi Lauhof,

The canopy lines of the HM-1 remind me of a Yak-18.  Could you possibly make a Soviet version of the HM-1?

Thanks,

CPT Mike

A fighter-bomber could be a possibility for USSR.

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: DaveyBoy on May 05, 2015, 03:12:30 AM
Lauhof, I've recent joined the forum and I'm playing catch-up with the different threads.

I just want to say I really Love your profiles and the history you have given them. I really do not know what to say, besides .............Excellent!!.

Dave.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 05, 2015, 02:34:51 PM
Thanks Dave for the compliment en welcome to the forum!! 8)

friendly regards

Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 10, 2015, 05:52:27 PM
With the War at hand in Dec 1941 the US Navy was desperately searching for new aircraft. At that moment only the Brewster F2A and Grumman F4F were available. Several aircraft factories were asked to compete in new models. Vultee, among them, had already built the P-66 but this plane was rejected by the USAAC. But the USN was interested. Vultee approached Grumman to help and they delivered the Canopy/cockpit, which was later used on the F6F. the new aircraft: FV-1 was ready in 1942 and delivered first to the USMC. here is one from VMF-221:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-1%20VMF-221_zpscuo7b3ao.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-1%20VMF-221_zpscuo7b3ao.jpg.html)

With the competition still going on Grumman stopped the collaboration with Vultee and so the engineers of Vultee came in 1943 with the F2V-1 and came with an modern canopy which was later used also on the Corsair.
Here is one from VF-5:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vultee%20FV-1/F2V-1%20VF-5_zps3bukvpv9.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vultee%20FV-1/F2V-1%20VF-5_zps3bukvpv9.jpg.html)

At the end of 1943 Vultee came with another concept of the F2V with a different engine: The XF3V-1, which was tested at NAS Patuxent in 1944.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vultee%20FV-1/XF3V-1%201944_zpsrrfsb7gx.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vultee%20FV-1/XF3V-1%201944_zpsrrfsb7gx.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 11, 2015, 02:40:56 AM
Interesting
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on June 11, 2015, 11:55:13 AM
Most interesting and looking quite do-able.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 12, 2015, 08:05:30 PM
Thank you, guys!!

The Vultee FV-2 was especially designed for the Royal Navy. Delivering started end 1942/beginning 1943. At sometime during 1943 also the USN got interested in the plane as a transition to the F6F which was being manufactured by Grumman. But in the battle in the Pacific the FV-2 proofed to be equal to the F6F in the dogfights with Japan.
Here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-2%20VC-84_zpsg2i0mheg.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-2%20VC-84_zpsg2i0mheg.jpg.html)

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-2%20UK%20522%20NAS_zpsxh03txyj.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Vultee%20FV-1/FV-2%20UK%20522%20NAS_zpsxh03txyj.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on June 12, 2015, 10:22:50 PM
Has an element of Vought V-143 to it, as well. Very nice. I like it.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 13, 2015, 01:14:11 AM
Thanks Logan! It looks indeed Voughtish. ;)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2015, 10:21:28 AM
 :-* The XF3V1 is very lovely, for a radial-engined fighter: a million times more pretty than a P-47D (or Navy's F6F). You would have won the Beauty contest! Congratulations!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 14, 2015, 07:07:24 PM
Thanks Tophe! :))
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2015, 11:38:07 PM
Thanks to YOU!
And I love even more the half-bubble Twin (Zwilling, 2-seat twin-engine) of this family, thanks again!
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/XF3V-1Z.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 14, 2015, 11:50:49 PM
Thanks to YOU!
And I love even more the half-bubble Twin (Zwilling, 2-seat twin-engine) of this family, thanks again!
The single-seat version, with additional fuel tanks had an even bigger range, but the pilot needed double coffee to stay awake...
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/XF3V-1Z1.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 15, 2015, 01:25:39 AM
Great work! 8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 27, 2015, 04:42:07 PM
Not only Vultee was asked to assist on building navy airplanes for the USN during the outbreak of WW2 but also the North American Aircraft Company. They had already built the NA-50 and were delivering it to Peru and Thailand (as NA-68), but the shipment to Thailand was cancelled and returned to the US. The Navy asked to upgrade these returning NA-68. So the FJ-1 was born. An small but fast and highly maneuverable plane.
They were delivered in autumn 1941 to several navy squadrons.
NA kept working on the model and came in the beginning of 1943 with the F2J-1.
Here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/FJ-1%20BuAer%200781%20VF-2%201942_zps9wim8foa.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/FJ-1%20BuAer%200781%20VF-2%201942_zps9wim8foa.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/F2J-1%20BuNo.66068%20No27%20flown%20by%20Ens%20Robert%20Black%20of%20VF-5%20USS%20Yorktown%2030%20March%201944_zpsqzoaf0ai.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/F2J-1%20BuNo.66068%20No27%20flown%20by%20Ens%20Robert%20Black%20of%20VF-5%20USS%20Yorktown%2030%20March%201944_zpsqzoaf0ai.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 28, 2015, 03:04:57 AM
I like the underwing gun pods
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 28, 2015, 03:23:42 PM
Thank you!

The F2J-1 was also exported to the UK and 3 squadrons from the Royal Navy were equipped. The 803 Sqn was manned by Canadian pilots and  after the war the Squadron became a Canadian Squadron. Here is one from 803 Sqn on board the HMCS Warrior in 1946.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/F2J-1%20803%20Sqn%20RCN%201946_zpsk0w4qlao.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/F2J-1%20803%20Sqn%20RCN%201946_zpsk0w4qlao.jpg.html)

NA came with a slight variant of the FJ-1 in 1943, the FJ-1A, before it was upgraded to the F2J-1. Here is one from VC-84

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/FJ-1A%20VC-84_zps6bsilrih.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/FJ-1A%20VC-84_zps6bsilrih.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 01, 2015, 05:21:29 PM
Grumman , following the example of the NA, fitted several F4F-2's with the Malcolm Hood. They were largely send to the Marines.
Here is one from VMF-221

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/F4F-2%20VMF-221%201943_zpsxibnuduh.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/F4F-2%20VMF-221%201943_zpsxibnuduh.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 02, 2015, 02:49:46 AM
I like
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Cliffy B on July 02, 2015, 06:43:40 AM
Subtle and effective; nice!!  8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on July 02, 2015, 07:41:48 AM
Excellent!  Wildcat with Malcom hood is a splendid yet subtle modification that makes the Wildcat look so much better. 

Wonder if the blown canopy of the Corsair might work on the Wildcat to see this through as a model?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 02, 2015, 04:31:47 PM
Subtle and effective; nice!!  8)


I like


Thanks!

Excellent!  Wildcat with Malcom hood is a splendid yet subtle modification that makes the Wildcat look so much better. 

Wonder if the blown canopy of the Corsair might work on the Wildcat to see this through as a model?


The Corsair Canopy was tested on a trainings F4F in 1943.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/F4F-2%20trainer_zpswhnrrclg.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/F4F-2%20trainer_zpswhnrrclg.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof

PS The Malcolm Hood looks better to me.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 06, 2015, 12:39:46 PM
Like YF-16 vs. YF-17, like YF-22 vs. YF-23, it is better to have the choice and enjoy the different ways, so: double thanks to you (no matter which one officials did/would order)... ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 06, 2015, 02:31:54 PM
Like YF-16 vs. YF-17, like YF-22 vs. YF-23, it is better to have the choice and enjoy the different ways, so: double thanks to you (no matter which one officials did/would order)... ;)

Thanks Tophe for the support!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on July 07, 2015, 06:37:46 AM
I do like those FJ-1s ... although I'd vote for Seahorse as their name  ;)  Love the US Malcolm Hood adaptations too  :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 15, 2015, 11:01:00 PM
Thanks Apophenia,

Used your suggestion on the name.

At the end of 1942 the NA company came with the FJ-2 with an in-line engine (they were already testing the P-51), but the Navy tested the plane but rejected at last. So NA approached again the USAAF with this upgraded P-64 as the P-64C and the USAAF were satisfied and ordered 100 P-64C's. Here is one from the Aleutians:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/P-64C%20FJ-2%2043-589_zpsmtgb5rq7.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/P-64C%20FJ-2%2043-589_zpsmtgb5rq7.jpg.html)

NA tried again to satisfy the Navy and send the F3J-1, an upgraded F2J-1 with an in-line engine. It was tested and the pilots were really fond of the machine. Here is one from VF-51.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/F3J-1%20VF-51%201944_zpsxie5ced5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/F3J-1%20VF-51%201944_zpsxie5ced5.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 18, 2015, 06:54:21 AM
Thanks a lot for these very lovely P-64C :-* and F3J1 :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 18, 2015, 07:46:54 PM
Thanks Tophe, you're welcome. :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 09, 2015, 03:16:17 PM
In 1946 there was a political pressure to bring together USAF and US Navy, could you illustrate this by the symbol of this new joint service, the P64J-1? (profile of twin-fuselage airplane with distant razor-back P-64C and front bubble F3J-1)... ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on August 10, 2015, 03:09:09 PM
Hi Tophe, I certainly could give it a try..

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on August 11, 2015, 01:56:46 AM
Wonderful!
(Maybe the distant fuselage could have a nose of slightly increased length, to have no intermeshing propellers and short distance between propellers (not much asymmetry if one engine is in a jam).
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 06, 2015, 10:35:52 PM
Wonderful!
(Maybe the distant fuselage could have a nose of slightly increased length, to have no intermeshing propellers and short distance between propellers (not much asymmetry if one engine is in a jam).


Hi Tophe!

It took a while! Had a long holiday in Greece and spend some days last week in Kopenhagen, so work on the profile delayed.
The Navy and Army experimented with aircraft construction with a double fuselage. So lockheed was building the P-38 and North American was busy with the P-82. Navy and Army asked NA to combine the P-64C and the F3J as a twin-fuselage machine with one cockpit. After several trials they managed to not only stabilize the plane but also upgrading speed and manoeuvrability by shortening the F3J fuselage.
At the end only the Marines were interested and here is one from their night-squadrons VMF(N)_531:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/NA%20F2J-2T%20BuNo%2052030%20VMFN-531%20USMC%201944_zps6k2mbs4j.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/NA%20F2J-2T%20BuNo%2052030%20VMFN-531%20USMC%201944_zps6k2mbs4j.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/NA%20FJ-1/NA%20F3J-2T%20BuNo%2052030%20VMFN-531%20USMC%201944%20top_zpsj1rqdtrh.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/NA%20FJ-1/NA%20F3J-2T%20BuNo%2052030%20VMFN-531%20USMC%201944%20top_zpsj1rqdtrh.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 07, 2015, 12:33:57 AM
WON-DER-FUL!!! :-* :-*
 :-* :-*
 :-* :-*

At the end only the Marines were interested
No, no: I am interested also, and all my armies will buy thousand copies (the armies in my mind love this double-plane)... ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 07, 2015, 05:37:55 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on November 07, 2015, 10:19:41 PM
The F3J-2T was not just a dream on blueprint, see the prototype photographed in flight:
(http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/F3J-2T_c.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on November 07, 2015, 10:28:08 PM
Tophe, that's a very nice job you did with the F3J-2T!! Magnificent!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 31, 2016, 02:46:35 AM
It’s a ‘Gotspe’ (Jiddisch for ‘Not Done’) for USAF-fans to say that the U.S.Navy negotiated with the Republic Company to make a version of the P-47 for Fighter-Bomber targets. They did. There was a great possibility that the US needed to invade Japan and the Navy wanted a Fighter-Bomber bigger and faster than the SB2C Helldiver. The last one, which was called ‘the Beast’ wasn’t liked by most of the Navy pilots. That was needed for ground attacks on Japanese territory and also to have the ability for fighter actions.  Seversky had already with the XFN-1 an early possibility in getting a foothold  on the Navy market. It didn’t work at that time.

Republic started with a fighter version, the F2N-1 at the end of 1943 (maybe I draw it sometime) but the Navy was already busy with turning off the corsair. So it came to develop a fighter-bomber. Begin 1944 they upgraded a  P-47D to fighter-bomber. It was the FB2N-1 Thundershark. Because it was heavy and fast only the new build long-bow carriers could be used to test the new FB2N-1 if it was possible to use them on board carriers. They made squared off wingtips, who were a little bigger than the usual P-47 wings and two carriers were equipped with new heavy catapults. The USS Ticonderoga and the USS Randolph. There was also a safety net to catch any problems with the cable landing. After several attempts the Thundershark was able to do carrier landings and takeoffs.
VB-15 on board USS Randolph was the first bomber-squad to get the Thundershark. Also at the end of 1944 several Thundersharks were delivered tot he RAAF and RAF. They had still their tailhooks on but were only used from airstrips and bases. Here are two examples. One from VB-15 and one from No. 258 Sqn.

Best regards
Lauhof

Best regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20FB2N-1%20Thundershark%20White%209%20BuNo.18895%20VB-15%20USS%20Randolph%20CV-15%20April%201945_zpsmmvxo7v5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20FB2N-1%20Thundershark%20White%209%20BuNo.18895%20VB-15%20USS%20Randolph%20CV-15%20April%201945_zpsmmvxo7v5.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20Thundershark%20MK.I%20HD133%20White%20ZT-Y%20P.O%20Peter%20Stead%20No.258%20Squadron%20RAAF%20New%20Guinee%20Autumn%201944_zpsad0fiqft.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20Thundershark%20MK.I%20HD133%20White%20ZT-Y%20P.O%20Peter%20Stead%20No.258%20Squadron%20RAAF%20New%20Guinee%20Autumn%201944_zpsad0fiqft.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 31, 2016, 03:23:29 AM
WOW!!!  :-* :-*

Could I ask you to overlay / map it to a regular P-47. I'd like to understand what is involved to build one of these bad boys.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on January 31, 2016, 03:36:40 PM
Your FB2N nicely enrich the P-47 family, thanks! (If "Real" designers don't dare, yes, we can!) ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 31, 2016, 06:30:07 PM
WOW!!!  :-* :-*

Could I ask you to overlay / map it to a regular P-47. I'd like to understand what is involved to build one of these bad boys.


Thanks Big Gimper. Here is the line-drawing compared with the P-47.

regards
Lauhof

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-P47_zpshswzqm59.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-P47_zpshswzqm59.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on January 31, 2016, 06:32:06 PM
Your FB2N nicely enrich the P-47 family, thanks! (If "Real" designers don't dare, yes, we can!) ;)

HI Tophe, Thanks as Always.

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 31, 2016, 08:12:02 PM
WOW!!!  :-* :-*

Could I ask you to overlay / map it to a regular P-47. I'd like to understand what is involved to build one of these bad boys.


Thanks Big Gimper. Here is the line-drawing compared with the P-47.

regards
Lauhof

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-P47_zpshswzqm59.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-P47_zpshswzqm59.jpg.html[/url])


Thank you Lauhof. Now to dig out and allocate the potential donor kits.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 01, 2016, 02:28:01 AM
You might wish to ensure the turbo's ducting etc don't get in the way:

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/johnhowlingmouse/P-47%20Super%20Bolt/P-47supercharger.jpg)

Maybe the solution is to keep the fuselage stretched but to move the turret forward.  This could then place the turbo etc behind the crew.

That said, I like yours more than the crude thing I drew years ago:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/4d903118.jpg)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 01, 2016, 02:30:29 AM
If you can find the conversion, the canopy forward of the turret looks to be from a TP-47G "Doublebolt" trainer.  At a guess, I'd start with P-47N wings.  I wonder if you'd get a FB2N-2 by replacing the four .50 machine guns in each wing with two 20mm. cannon?

A quick check shows that Kora makes a 1/72 TP-47G conversion for Academy's 1/72 P-47D.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 01, 2016, 02:36:39 AM
You might wish to ensure the turbo's ducting etc don't get in the way:

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/johnhowlingmouse/P-47%20Super%20Bolt/P-47supercharger.jpg[/url])

Maybe the solution is to keep the fuselage stretched but to move the turret forward.  This could then place the turbo etc behind the crew.

Well, the only problem seems to be interference between turret and turbosupercharger.  A stretched fuselage would work (note that Lauhof's initial fuselage does not appear to be stretched, it appears to use the TP-47G as a point of departure), but it would need to be done in such a way as to keep the c.g. from moving to a location where the aircraft would be uncontrollable.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 02, 2016, 03:45:24 AM
You might wish to ensure the turbo's ducting etc don't get in the way:

([url]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v727/johnhowlingmouse/P-47%20Super%20Bolt/P-47supercharger.jpg[/url])

Maybe the solution is to keep the fuselage stretched but to move the turret forward.  This could then place the turbo etc behind the crew.

Well, the only problem seems to be interference between turret and turbosupercharger.  A stretched fuselage would work (note that Lauhof's initial fuselage does not appear to be stretched, it appears to use the TP-47G as a point of departure), but it would need to be done in such a way as to keep the c.g. from moving to a location where the aircraft would be uncontrollable.


Hello Guys,

A real issue which was solved by Republic in the FB2N-2, the turret moved forward and the supercharger was installed a little further away.
Here is the line-drawing from the FB2N-2. The Marines flew with it. Profile is coming later one.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-2%20Thundershark%20line-drawing_zpswuazd911.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-2%20Thundershark%20line-drawing_zpswuazd911.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on February 02, 2016, 10:32:04 AM
I like it! Although ... just to confuse matters ... I'd move the cockpit further back from the firewall  ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: kerick on February 02, 2016, 10:35:27 AM
That deserves to be built!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 03, 2016, 02:40:03 AM
That deserves to be built!

Indeed
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 03, 2016, 08:32:40 PM
The FB2N-2 came in service with the US Marines beginning of 1945. Here is one from VMF-222:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-2%20White%20A-86%20VMF-222%20August%201945_zpsmaz4ps7k.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-2%20White%20A-86%20VMF-222%20August%201945_zpsmaz4ps7k.jpg.html)

Spring 1945 Republic came with the FB2N-3 with a different canopy and turret. here is one from VBF-87 in June 1945.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-3%20White%2076%20VBF-87%20June%201945_zps4gaj4kow.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Republic%20F2N/FB2N-3%20White%2076%20VBF-87%20June%201945_zps4gaj4kow.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on February 04, 2016, 11:40:48 AM
So, are the wings similar to those of the P-47N in plan view?  I'm trying to figure the best modeling approach for this.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on February 04, 2016, 04:20:29 PM
So, are the wings similar to those of the P-47N in plan view?  I'm trying to figure the best modeling approach for this.

Yes they are similar to the blunt wingtips of the P-47N.

lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 10, 2016, 06:12:28 PM
In the 1930's Consolidated came with the P-30 (PB-2A) as a high-altitude two-seat fighter. It didn't fulfill the expectations of the USAAC due to temperature-problems of the gunner at heights. Consolidated started working on a new design of the PB-2A. It adjusted the fuselage and came with a different engine. The result was the scoutfighter SFY-1. It was delivered to the USN beginning of 1940. Tests were made during the whole year and the results were satisfied. So the USN asked for a fighter version. This became the FY-1. The SFY-1 was delivered to Navy-carrier squadrons June 1941 and the FY-1 with a shorter fuselage came in 1942. Here are to examples.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Consolidated%20FY/Consolidated%20FY%20-1%20VF-22%201943_zpszuckbs1w.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Consolidated%20FY/Consolidated%20FY%20-1%20VF-22%201943_zpszuckbs1w.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Consolidated%20FY/Consolidated%20SFY-1%20VS-5%201942_zpsp2yrqgaz.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Consolidated%20FY/Consolidated%20SFY-1%20VS-5%201942_zpsp2yrqgaz.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on April 10, 2016, 11:34:12 PM
Unreal but good! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on April 11, 2016, 12:21:48 AM
FB2N-2 & FB2N-3  :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on April 11, 2016, 01:36:36 AM
Would Consolidated have pursued a single-seat development of the P-30, but built on Bell's experience converting the A-11 to the XA-11A testbed for the Allison, to replace the increasingly obsolete Curtiss Conqueror?  Given the relationship between the two companies (Bell took over much of Consolidated's plant in Buffalo, and the people who stayed behind, when Rueben Fleet moved Consolidated to San Diego) and that Larry Bell was Consolidated COO before the move, I could see them exchanging information.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: ptdockyard on April 18, 2016, 12:38:42 AM
 :) :) :) :) ;)

Now I have to find a 1/72 P-30/PB-2 model

Dave G
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 19, 2016, 02:18:15 PM
Thanks and welcome! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on April 28, 2016, 03:17:21 AM
Back to the development of the Decimator and Demolisher variants from Douglas. After the SFBD-2 Douglas came at the beginning of 1945 with the SFB2D. It had already parts of the still not completed Skyraider. here is one from VB-16, an SFB2D-2E.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas%20A2D/Douglas%20SFB2D-2E%20VB-16%20USS%20randolph%201945_zps8edq14ff.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas%20A2D/Douglas%20SFB2D-2E%20VB-16%20USS%20randolph%201945_zps8edq14ff.jpg.html)

Together with Curtiss Douglas came at the same time with an variant of the SB2C helldiver. Douglas was at that moment working at a successor for the SBD, the SB2D, but with Curtiss it came with the SB3D Hellhound.
Here is one from VB-85 in June 945

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB3D-1%20hellhound%20levo4kopie_zps856fuwdq.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB3D-1%20hellhound%20levo4kopie_zps856fuwdq.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on April 28, 2016, 12:18:58 PM
Nice!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 05, 2016, 07:52:58 PM
Thanks Tophe!

Curtiss took advantage of the developments at Douglas and upgraded his own Helldiver. This SB2C-6 was delivered to the FAA and to the Australian Navy. The last one finally didn't want the upgraded Helldiver and a few were delivered to the RAAF. here are two examples:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/SB2C-6%201820%20Sqn%20FAA%201945_zpsmdcf1qkc.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/SB2C-6%201820%20Sqn%20FAA%201945_zpsmdcf1qkc.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas/SB2C-6%201%20APU%20RAAF%201944_zpsfwgj4ffq.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas/SB2C-6%201%20APU%20RAAF%201944_zpsfwgj4ffq.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on May 05, 2016, 08:48:37 PM
This is still greatly enriching the Real World families, thanks!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Logan Hartke on May 05, 2016, 10:17:51 PM
Aesthetically, those are big improvements on the largely unattractive Helldiver. Great job!

Thanks,

Logan
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 06, 2016, 02:07:27 AM
Aesthetically, those are big improvements on the largely unattractive Helldiver. Great job!

Thanks,

Logan

Thank you, Logan for the compliment!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 07, 2016, 07:41:47 PM
Curtiss did a good job with his upgrading of the Helldiver. The US Marines were interested and ordered several SB2C-6's. Here is one from VMSB-244:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB2C-6%20VMSB-244%20USMC%201945_zpsmj5uisfo.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB2C-6%20VMSB-244%20USMC%201945_zpsmj5uisfo.jpg.html)

Later on followed the US NAVY. They choose the SB2C-7 with the Skyraider engine.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB2C-7%20Helldiver%20White%20201%20VB-84%20USS%20Bunker%20Hill%20CV-17%20Tokyo%20Raids%2016-23%20Februari%201945_zps79114z9p.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB2C-7%20Helldiver%20White%20201%20VB-84%20USS%20Bunker%20Hill%20CV-17%20Tokyo%20Raids%2016-23%20Februari%201945_zps79114z9p.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on May 07, 2016, 11:01:32 PM
Nice new ones, with various windscreens and spinners... :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 08, 2016, 01:56:37 AM
Nice new ones, with various windscreens and spinners... :-*

As Always thank you, Tophe!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 09, 2016, 02:38:26 AM
Ooo, that is quite an improvement! Very nice  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on May 10, 2016, 01:17:23 AM
Thank you, Apophenia!

After WOII Several upgraded Helldivers found their way to allied countries. Electronic versions went to Dutch Navy and the Aeronavale. here are two from 1954:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB2C-7E%20White%203.F.8%20Flotille%203%20Ganga%20Arromanches%20R95%20Gulf%20of%20Tonkin%201953%20Aeronavale_zpsqx6jd1e5.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB2C-7E%20White%203.F.8%20Flotille%203%20Ganga%20Arromanches%20R95%20Gulf%20of%20Tonkin%201953%20Aeronavale_zpsqx6jd1e5.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB3C-1E%20serial%20D-056%20VSQ-1%20Karel%20Doorman%201954_zpsdcqglo6v.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB3C-1E%20serial%20D-056%20VSQ-1%20Karel%20Doorman%201954_zpsdcqglo6v.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on May 12, 2016, 01:40:02 PM
Those look so right!  :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: finsrin on May 12, 2016, 01:55:48 PM
They do look right. :)
Plausible progression of design using R-3350 and the other changes.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: CiTrus90 on May 14, 2016, 05:11:54 PM
Nice ones indeed :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 03, 2016, 08:47:45 PM
Thank you Guys.

Both sides in WO II were working to develop jet engines for their planes. The British and the Germans were ahead. Britain delevered prototypes tot the US for further development, but Germany came with the Me 262 as the first jet fighter in production. The allies laid their hands on a Me-262 who had to made a forced landing after engine failure in August 1944 in France. The plane was send to the US and Bell and Lockheed started working on a new jet-engine prototype. Lockheed succeeded in transforming a P-38 in a Jet-variant. The construction was alike the Me-262, with two engines at the twin-fuselage. They had to extend the landing gear and enlarge the wing-section. After succesfull try-outs the plane was delivered to the USAAF. But the airforce was reluctant to use the plane in Europe. They just made training-flights in Italy simultaneously with the P-80. The Navy was interested and equipped nightfighter squadron VF(N)-90 with the P-38T. The Marines equipped VMF(N)-533 also with the jet P-38. They were used for strafing and defending sorties on Okinawa and Le Shima.

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Lockheed%20P-38/P-38T%20VMFN-533%20le%20shima_zpsivxjml3u.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Lockheed%20P-38/P-38T%20VMFN-533%20le%20shima_zpsivxjml3u.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Lockheed%20P-38/P-38T%20VFN-90%20Okinawa_zpsemjwnwzl.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Lockheed%20P-38/P-38T%20VFN-90%20Okinawa_zpsemjwnwzl.jpg.html)

regards
Lauhof

The idea came up when I saw the P-48 Pelican from Paolo Parente's DUST, the game and got inspired.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 03, 2016, 10:22:45 PM
Wonderful! :-*
I plan to draw a slanting view of it... Are the air intakes round or rounded squares?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 03, 2016, 11:12:11 PM
Wonderful! :-*
I plan to draw a slanting view of it... Are the air intakes round or rounded squares?

More rounded squares


regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 03, 2016, 11:17:55 PM
Thanks, this seem better, and more distant from the Pelican inspiration (that I discovered thanks to you).
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: elmayerle on July 04, 2016, 03:16:40 AM
I suspect the engine pods could be scaled from the booster pods fitted to P2V-7's.
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 05, 2016, 10:52:49 AM
Wonderful! :-*
I plan to draw a slanting view of it...
Here is the slanting view of her (thanks again!):
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 05, 2016, 09:35:57 PM
Hi Tophe,

Excellent work!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 06, 2016, 12:18:46 AM
Thank YOU, Master Inventor!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on October 23, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
Took me a while but I still had to finish the SB2C-line. After  WWII several E-variants were sold to allied nations. New Zealand bought the SB3C-3E for patrol-duties. here is one from the 4th Squadron :
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB3C-3E%204th%20Sqn%20Otago%201957_zps0v6mkuwv.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/Curtiss%20SB3C-3E%204th%20Sqn%20Otago%201957_zps0v6mkuwv.jpg.html)

Several SB3D's were also used in the Korean-war. here is one from VC-12:
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB3C-2E%20VC-12%20USS%20Boxer%201951_zpsefuvte1f.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Douglas-Curtiss%20SB3D-1/SB3C-2E%20VC-12%20USS%20Boxer%201951_zpsefuvte1f.jpg.html)

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on October 24, 2016, 12:35:05 AM
Interesting new versions, thanks! :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 05, 2017, 04:09:16 AM
Thank you Tophe. Been away awhile

Bell lost the competition with his Airabonita to the Vought F4U-1. One of the reasons was that the US Navy didn't want liquid-cooled engines, but this appeared to be an unfounded speculation. the Allison engine had only a single-speed supercharger. Consequently, its altitude performance was much inferior to other naval fighters of the period. Lastly, the Airabonita had to compete against the considerably faster and quicker Vought F4U Corsair, the first U.S. Navy fighter to exceed 400 mph (644 km/h) in level flight. But Bell didn't give up and with the war at hand needing more plants to build planes for the Pacific Theatre, they hired engineers from Republic to rebuild the XFL-1 with the R-2600 cyclone engine. It became the F2L-1. They did widen the fuselage and gave the cowling an elliptical shape, same as the P-47. By the tests they had to shorten the fuselage a bit to overcome some balancing-problems. But by then the prototype was fit to do some carrier-operation tests and succeeded. Bell was given the contract for building the F2L. End of 1943 and beginning of 1944 they were delivered to carrier-squadrons in the pacific.
Here are two of them:

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Bell%20F2L/Bell%20F2L-1%20White%2019%20VF-6%20Vacriu_zpsbhc3haoh.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Bell%20F2L/Bell%20F2L-1%20White%2019%20VF-6%20Vacriu_zpsbhc3haoh.jpg.html)
(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x410/Lauhof52/Bell%20F2L/Bell%20F2L-1%20White%2071%20VF-20%20McCudden_zpswmodqdut.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/Lauhof52/media/Bell%20F2L/Bell%20F2L-1%20White%2071%20VF-20%20McCudden_zpswmodqdut.jpg.html)



friendly regards
Lauhof

Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on June 05, 2017, 06:38:54 PM
That look nice ! (http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 06, 2017, 12:23:12 AM
Good!  :-*  Could you show us the in-line source to compare? (centering and all)
The best would be a twin-Airabonita profile: radial front, in-line rear... as an Airabonita Zwilling, asymmetric!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 06, 2017, 03:20:11 AM
That look nice ! ([url]http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/113.gif[/url])


Thank you!!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 06, 2017, 03:21:25 AM
Good!  :-*  Could you show us the in-line source to compare? (centering and all)
The best would be a twin-Airabonita profile: radial front, in-line rear... as an Airabonita Zwilling, asymmetric!

Hi Tophe,

Something like this: The F3L twin

friendly regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on June 06, 2017, 05:59:37 AM
Oooo ... your F2L-1 is really nice  :)  Now I'm wondering about an F3L with the Airacobra's tricycle landing gear ...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 06, 2017, 10:39:50 AM
Something like this: The F3L twin
Very lovely, thanks a lot! :-* :-*
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 06, 2017, 08:27:48 PM
Thank you Guys!... and Apophenia maybe an F3L...
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 24, 2017, 03:30:35 AM
Boeing wanted a successor for the P-26 and came with the YP-29 for testing. A slightly different version was send as the XF7B-1 to the US Navy, because Boeing was the dominant deliverer of fighter and bombing aircraft for the navy carriers before Grumman took over. Because of the fact that the Grumman designs were biplane versions and the P-26 and YP-29 were monoplanes, the US Navy was very interested. But due to high speed, instability and visibility problems the Navy decided the XF7B-1 was unfit for carrier duties and cancelled the collaboration end of 1934.

In the summer of 1935 Boeing came back with a modified XF7B-1, different canopy, longer fuselage. At the same time they brought a two seated scout-fighter version from the YP-29 as the XSF7B-1. Although there were still problems with the speed handling, Boeing was contracted for 30 F7B-1, mostly delivered to ground stationed squadrons in 1936 (the navy wanted badly to have a monoplane) . In 1938 several were send to carrier squadrons after satisfied trials. More fond were the pilots of the SF7B-1 and it was send to carrier scout-squadrons. An SF7B-2 version as scout bomber monoplane was delivered in 1938 but was already redundant for the arrival of the SB2U vindicator and Douglas TBD-1 devastator. Only one squadron was equipped with the SF7B-2 at Pearl Harbour. Several pilots were still flying F7B-1’s when in 1941 war broke out due to the attack on PH. In the beginning of 1942 all F7B-1’s were exchanged for F4F wildcats. Several SF7B-1 scoutplanes were used for training

Here are the three different types of the originated YP-29

Regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on June 24, 2017, 08:57:23 PM
My favorite :-* is the single seater, even if the whole family is pleasant! ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on June 25, 2017, 01:15:55 AM
My favorite :-* is the single seater, even if the whole family is pleasant! ;)

Thanks Tophe!
Project was lying on the shelf for more than two years. Love the SF2B-1 myself.

regrads
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on June 25, 2017, 06:36:37 AM
Yes,F7 B1 is on my taste .
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 07, 2017, 08:00:46 PM
Thanks Alex!

On to another old subject: The story is based on the idea and story from Dizzyfugu who built a model of the FK60.
N.V. Koolhoven was an aircraft manufacturer based in Rotterdam, Netherlands. In May 1940, Koolhoven’s engineers escaped and remained active in England. Together with the Desoutter-company they built the biplane fighter FK-52C . Which I exposed early in one of my threads.
At the moment of the invasion of German forces in 1940 Koolhoven’s FK-58 single-seat monoplane was at the front in France en Holland. The successor FK-60, which had been on the drawingboard was built in England by Koolhoven and Desoutter in Croydon, Surrey.
The FK-60 had been designed with a more powerful armament, but needed a more powerful engine for duty-tasks in the Netherlands East Indies. So it was powered with the Wright-Cyclone R.1820 engine.
Flight tests with the modified prototype, started in November 1941 proved to be promising. Speed and handling at low altitude was very good.
The new Dutch fighter came just in time: On 1 January 1942 the Dutch forces joined the American-British-Dutch-Australian Command, but at the onset of the Japanese assault the ML-KNIL was not up to full combat strength. Production of the FK-60 was immediately taken up and the airframes transported by ship to the Dutch New-Guinea theatre.
In 1943, 120 (NEI) Squadron was established. Equipped with Kittyhawk fighters and the newly arrived FK-60 fighters, it flew many missions under Australian command, including the recapturing of Dutch New Guinea.
Here are two examples. One ML-KNIL version and one RAAF one.

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Old Wombat on July 07, 2017, 10:28:41 PM
I like this one! :) 8)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 07, 2017, 11:35:55 PM
Thank you!
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: GTX_Admin on July 08, 2017, 03:58:57 AM
 :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: Tophe on July 08, 2017, 10:40:50 AM
I love your FK-60 :-* so harmonious silhouettes...
They remind me the Curtiss XP-60C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-60#/media/File:Curtiss_XP-60C_in_flight,_modified_from_second_XP-60A._061024-F-1234P-018.jpg
but better ;)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 08, 2017, 03:10:04 PM
:)

Thank you!

I love your FK-60 :-* so harmonious silhouettes...
They remind me the Curtiss XP-60C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-60#/media/File:Curtiss_XP-60C_in_flight,_modified_from_second_XP-60A._061024-F-1234P-018.jpg
but better ;)

Thanks Tophe! Better than the XP-60... 8)

regards
lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: AXOR on July 08, 2017, 06:32:08 PM
:)

Thank you!

I love your FK-60 :-* so harmonious silhouettes...
They remind me the Curtiss XP-60C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-60#/media/File:Curtiss_XP-60C_in_flight,_modified_from_second_XP-60A._061024-F-1234P-018.jpg
but better ;)

Thanks Tophe! Better than the XP-60... 8)

regards
lauhof

Certainly...great job ! :)
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 09, 2017, 03:06:38 AM
:)

Thank you!

I love your FK-60 :-* so harmonious silhouettes...
They remind me the Curtiss XP-60C
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Curtiss_P-60#/media/File:Curtiss_XP-60C_in_flight,_modified_from_second_XP-60A._061024-F-1234P-018.jpg
but better ;)

Thanks Tophe! Better than the XP-60... 8)

regards
lauhof

Certainly...great job ! :)

Thanks Alex!

regards
Lauhof
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: apophenia on July 11, 2017, 02:48:06 AM
Excellent stuff! And I love the Desoutter tie-in. I guess that makes the F.K.60 the Desoutter III ?

BTW, does anyone know when Desoutter Tools moved to France?
Title: Re: Lauhof's profiles
Post by: lauhof52 on July 13, 2017, 10:27:47 PM
Excellent stuff! And I love the Desoutter tie-in. I guess that makes the F.K.60 the Desoutter III ?

BTW, does anyone know when Desoutter Tools moved to France?

Thanks Apophenia!
Desoutter Tools was founded in 1914 in England as Desoutter Bros Ltd. The Desoutter aircraft company, who manufactured the Desoutter II was founded in England, Croydon in 1928 by Marcel one of the brothers. Desoutter Tools went to Hendon in 1924. Already George Renault was making the same tools in France. In 1989 George Renault joines Desoutter. So it could be around that time the company moved to France with their headquarter.

regards
Lauhof