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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on September 20, 2016, 09:53:13 PM

Title: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 20, 2016, 09:53:13 PM
This is a thread for aircraft in which the cockpit transparencies/canopy are not raised above, nor stepped down from, the fuselage upper mould line.

This would include the:
Amiot 370
B-29 Superfortress
F-12 Rainbow
He-111
He-119

There must more.

Here is a video the Amiot 370:

http://youtu.be/5l-ZSvfHstw (http://youtu.be/5l-ZSvfHstw)
(http://rmichau.pagesperso-orange.fr/AcazC2/Illustration1938/Amiot%20370%20.jpg)
(http://maquette72.free.fr/amis/GMazon/2014_214_amiot370/photos_gm_amiot370/amiot370_035.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: taiidantomcat on September 20, 2016, 10:27:34 PM
We must be on the same wavelength, I was thinking  of making a topic on this. Love the streamlined look myself

One of my personal favorites to add:

(http://static.hlj.com/images/tam/tam25115_0.jpg)

Ki-46 dinah!

Also HS-132, Fw-189/Su-12, aRado 234

Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Logan Hartke on September 20, 2016, 10:29:55 PM
The Bell Airacuda and Bristol Blenheim are early ones.

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/63/Airacuda_Bell_XFM-1_(15954491367).jpg)

(http://auto-database.com/image/pictures-of-bristol-blenheim-iii-2015-288832.jpg)

Well, "early" is relative. You have things like Sikorsky's Ilya Muromets, which has to be one of the earliest examples of this configuration in a close cockpit bomber.

(http://jn.passieux.free.fr/images/Ilya_Mourometz.jpg)

Many of the early bombers such as the Farmans had this layout. Going into the jet age, the Ar 234 is another classic example of this.

(http://www.defensemedianetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Ar-234-V9.jpg)

Many of the early Soviet jet bombers designed with the assistance of German engineers had this arrangement, too.

Cheers,

Logan
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 20, 2016, 10:40:58 PM
Me 264 Amerika Bomber

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-VONsZkirS6A/U5bXPrluTTI/AAAAAAAAJTY/AwsCw31nYak/s1600/Messerschmitt+Me+264+Amerika+bomber+,+its+objective+being+able+to+strike+continental+USA+from+Germany,+1942.jpg)

He 177/277

(http://simviation.com//pageimages/177a-3r1.jpg)
(http://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/attachments/he277-3s-jpg.59651/)

Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 20, 2016, 10:43:19 PM
We must be on the same wavelength, I was thinking  of making a topic on this. Love the streamlined look myself

Geez Lousie. How many time must I return my Tinfoil hat for a refund. It never works as advertised.   ;D
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: taiidantomcat on September 20, 2016, 11:49:52 PM
Lol

add C-97 to the list, along with the guppy and super guppy variants
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: kitnut617 on September 21, 2016, 01:13:11 AM
here's two
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Kelmola on September 21, 2016, 01:30:07 AM
Does Bell X-1 count?
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: taiidantomcat on September 21, 2016, 02:00:21 AM
Does Bell X-1 count?

Yup :)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: perttime on September 21, 2016, 03:20:01 AM
I think size and mission were not specified...
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: jcf on September 21, 2016, 04:51:25 AM
Linke-Hoffman R.I, C-46, Stearman Model X-100/XA-21, Hawks-Miller Time Flies, Comet, Caravelle   ;D

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Linke-Hofmann_R.I_cellon_fuselage.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/95/C-46-First_Nations_Transportation%2C.jpg)

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/58/Stearman_XA-21_in_flight.jpg/1024px-Stearman_XA-21_in_flight.jpg)

(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/CrupiRay/10160L.jpg)

(http://www.jitterbuzz.com/manfil/MAN_Feb_1937.jpg)

Most aircraft had/have their cockpit submerged in the fuselage.   ;)

A better description would be aircraft in which the cockpit transparencies/canopy are not raised above, nor stepped down from, the fuselage upper mould line.
 
Referring to them as streamlined is also a bit misleading as the majority of aircraft are streamlined to one extent or another.  ;D
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 21, 2016, 06:44:04 AM
Thanks everyone for the contributions so far.  I am sure there are many more designs to come.

I updated the thread description using your comments Jon.

I will now add the Republic XF-103.

(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_3YQsV3TbtB0/S9o5xU7iU3I/AAAAAAAAAS4/G6CTivnFtjg/s1600/F-103.jpg)

(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk126/generalmelchett/P1040964-1.jpg)

Source: General Melchette


Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: KiwiZac on September 21, 2016, 06:47:33 AM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bugatti_Model_100
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Weaver on September 21, 2016, 08:09:05 PM
How about when the canopy's blended into the fuselage which is blended into the wing? ;)

Northrop XP-79:

(http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Northrop-XP-79-2.jpg)
http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/2012/01/northrop-xp-79-flying-ram/ (http://www.diseno-art.com/news_content/2012/01/northrop-xp-79-flying-ram/)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Weaver on September 21, 2016, 08:13:54 PM
How about the De Schelde S.21?

(https://mir-s3-cdn-cf.behance.net/project_modules/max_1200/2c57b517407835.562b9a679b6fa.jpg)
https://www.behance.net/gallery/17407835/De-Schelde-S21 (https://www.behance.net/gallery/17407835/De-Schelde-S21)

(http://www.lextempelman.nl/images/varia_huis/s21opengewerkt480pix.jpg)
http://www.lextempelman.nl/wat/voorbeelden_2/jachtvliegtuig_de_schelde_s21/ (http://www.lextempelman.nl/wat/voorbeelden_2/jachtvliegtuig_de_schelde_s21/)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: jcf on September 22, 2016, 12:41:27 AM
here's two

B-36 prototype had a stepped flight-deck windscreen/canopy.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: taiidantomcat on September 22, 2016, 01:02:31 AM
(http://www.ju388.de/Ju388/340284s.jpg)

(http://www.super-hobby.com/zdjecia/5/3/6/1230_rd.jpg)

ju 188

http://www.luft46.com/junkers/juef132a.gif (http://www.luft46.com/junkers/juef132a.gif)]http://www.luft46.com/junkers/juef132a.gif

Junkers EF 132

(http://www.luft46.com/aoart/ao144-2.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: AXOR on September 22, 2016, 01:43:05 AM
Great examples...

Niai 1 Fanera 2  http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/fanera.html (http://www.airwar.ru/enc/cw1/fanera.html)

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/cw1/fanera/fanera-6.jpg)

(http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/cw1/fanera/fanera-7.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: elmayerle on September 22, 2016, 02:00:53 AM
Would Tacit Blue qualify?  How about the B-2?
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: kitnut617 on September 22, 2016, 02:52:05 AM
F-117 ---- 

or this little home built (read about this years ago in a home built publication)

Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: arkon on September 22, 2016, 03:16:34 AM
I believe that last one made an appearance in popular mechanics or science quite a few years ago.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: kitnut617 on September 22, 2016, 03:46:14 AM
It was designed by Barnaby Wainfan, he is/was the resident aero engineer for the home built magazine called KitPlanes. Google says he also wrote for Popular Mechanics too.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 22, 2016, 04:38:34 AM
Bisnovat SK-1

(http://1000aircraftphotos.com/Contributions/KleinBernhard/4860L-1.jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6nx_lcmDZGw/Uzo78suinQI/AAAAAAABqsQ/56yaU5dRgQo/s1600/SK1-3d.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: dogsbody on September 22, 2016, 05:23:05 AM
Supermarine's Schneider Trophy floatplanes, the S-4, S-5 and S-6

Lioré et Olivier LeO H-46:  http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww1/leoh46/leoh46-2.jpg (http://www.airwar.ru/image/idop/bww1/leoh46/leoh46-2.jpg)


Bugatti Model 100:  http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/10/12/2B3EF1A200000578-0-image-a-4_1439207943196.jpg (http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2015/08/10/12/2B3EF1A200000578-0-image-a-4_1439207943196.jpg)


Chris
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Kerick on September 22, 2016, 07:10:33 AM
That home built looked stealthy before anyone heard of stealth.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: jcf on September 22, 2016, 08:59:17 AM
Supermarine's Schneider Trophy floatplanes, the S-4, S-5 and S-6


Nope, those are all open cockpit types, whole different animal.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: jcf on September 22, 2016, 09:00:52 AM
F-117 ---- 

or this little home built (read about this years ago in a home built publication)


Facetmobile, Currell has a free-paper model of it:
http://www.currell.net/models/facet.htm (http://www.currell.net/models/facet.htm)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: jcf on September 22, 2016, 09:02:58 AM
That home built looked stealthy before anyone heard of stealth.

Not really, first flight in 1993 and stealth, in various forms, was kicked around and worked on for decades prior.
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: Vuk on September 23, 2016, 02:23:43 PM
Kingdom of Yugoslavia Ikarus Orkan (serbian for Hurricane), 1940. light recon bomber prototype

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikarus_Orkan
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 24, 2016, 05:28:36 AM
Surprisingly enough, one can actually get a kit of the Ikarus Orkan:

(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/KZ0AAOSwU-pXp4Kr/s-l1600.jpg)(http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lO8AAOSwHoFXp4K9/s-l1600.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 24, 2016, 05:32:59 AM
Another:  Tachikawa Ki-77

(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Bim10FGl404/U2TYN67vCmI/AAAAAAAAHhs/FdXrr9AaknU/s1600/0009.jpg)
(http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attachments/aircraft/625584d1389184652-captured-german-aircraft-tachikawa-ki-77-1.jpg)
(http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/attachments/aircraft/625587d1389184655-captured-german-aircraft-tachikawa-ki-77.jpg)
Title: Re: Planes with streamlined cockpits / fuselages
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 25, 2016, 05:44:25 AM
Fictional one for you:

(http://cdn.trendhunterstatic.com/thumbs/futuristic-aircraft-designs.jpeg)