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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 06:12:42 AM

Title: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 06:12:42 AM

I was pretty sure there were already a thread devoted to this plane. But I cannot find it now. ??? ::) ??? ::)

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: Daryl J. on July 11, 2016, 06:42:43 AM

Perhaps it was found to be Unconstitutional!   :icon_surprised:  :-\  :-\  :o  :icon_surprised:

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: kitnut617 on July 11, 2016, 07:16:32 AM

Maybe here Carlos

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=141.msg1859#msg1859 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=141.msg1859#msg1859)

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 07:32:07 AM

Anyway an interesting plane that just needed a more powerful engines. What if the power plant of C-130?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_R6V_Constitution

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 07:32:45 AM

Hi kitnut617, that's a very interesting thread :) , but I did not mean that.

Quote from: Daryl J. on July 11, 2016, 06:42:43 AM

Perhaps it was found to be Inconstitutional!   :icon_surprised:  :-\  :-\  :o  :icon_surprised:

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 08:36:17 AM

Quote from: ysi_maniac on July 11, 2016, 07:32:07 AM

... What if the power plant of C-130?

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/Cr6v_turbo.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/Cr6v_turbo.jpg.html)

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: elmayerle on July 11, 2016, 12:15:46 PM

I keep thinking of an alternate LAX of the 1950's with civil Constitutions and C-99s along with littler aircraft like Stratocruisers.  If the ICC had not intervened, perhaps full-cargo variants in the markings of Santa Fe Air Cargo and others (before being legally terminated, Santa Fe Air Cargo did fly some DC -4's with full "warbonnet" livery as applied to their diesel-electric locomotives).

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: jcf on July 12, 2016, 01:26:36 AM

Lockheed had offered a turbine powered development, the Model 289 with four Wright T35 Typhoon 5,500shp turboprops.
The engine never entered production so that variant died on the drawing board.
http://enginehistory.org/GasTurbines/Wright/T35/WrightT35.shtml (http://enginehistory.org/GasTurbines/Wright/T35/WrightT35.shtml)

As to power for the R-4360 powered aircraft, what if instead of the GE turbo design used on the two built aircraft, Lockheed
had instead opted for their in-house designed seven-stage axial turbo-supercharger design? Perhaps that design would have
provided a path for better power growth, perhaps even developed into something like the turbine/supercharger unit used on
the Napier Nomad II?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/78/NomadSchematic_185kBpng360kB.png/679px-NomadSchematic_185kBpng360kB.png)

Title: Re: Lockheed Constitution
Post by: ysi_maniac on July 18, 2016, 09:58:02 AM

Pan American Turbo Constitution

(http://i1080.photobucket.com/albums/j340/ysi_maniac/Drawing/Cr6v_turbo_liner.jpg) (http://s1080.photobucket.com/user/ysi_maniac/media/Drawing/Cr6v_turbo_liner.jpg.html)