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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on May 09, 2014, 10:24:08 PM

Title: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: The Big Gimper on May 09, 2014, 10:24:08 PM

A Cross-post from this Secret Projects threat  (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,304.0.html)started by Our Glorious Leader Greg in 2006.

Here is are some teasers:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel3061.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel3064.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel3065.jpg)

Reduced span XB-35 wings with B-17B/C/D fuselage?

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:41:01 AM

If anyone wants to know more about the way these designs would have worked contact Evan…who contributed to the original article.

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:42:30 AM

BTW, here are the rest of the images (since I posted them over there in the first place).

They are all variations of the same theme and come under the Model 306 designation:

First the Heavy Bomber:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel3062.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306BomberDrawing.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel3063.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:42:59 AM

Now the first fighter version - the 306B single engine variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306B.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306B2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306BDrawing.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:44:19 AM

Now the Model 306C twin engined fighter:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306C2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306C1.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306CDrawing.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:44:46 AM

Now the Model 306A Commercial Airliner:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306Airliner2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306Airliner1.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306AirlinerDrawing1.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306AirlinerDrawing3.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306AirlinerDrawing2.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 02:45:14 AM

And last, but not least, my favourite - the Commercial Flying Boat variant:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306FlyingBoats.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/BoeingModel306FlyingBoatDrawing.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: kitnut617 on May 10, 2014, 03:13:14 AM

What was the thinking with the extended ailerons ?

And the push/pull airliner looks really neat --  :)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 03:16:59 AM

Quote from: kitnut617 on May 10, 2014, 03:13:14 AM

What was the thinking with the extended ailerons ?

Evan, over to you... ;)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 05:08:41 AM

Hmmm…similar:

(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rA6Gv15S2vk/UDwks2BQwzI/AAAAAAAADWk/5OR2FP0bxXw/s1600/futura2.jpg)

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: elmayerle on May 11, 2014, 12:43:16 AM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 03:16:59 AM

Quote from: kitnut617 on May 10, 2014, 03:13:14 AM

What was the thinking with the extended ailerons ?

Evan, over to you... ;)

Well, I'd hazard a guess that they were going for increased control arm (particularly if they were intended as elevons instead of just ailerons) and possibly more effect by having them fully separate from the wing (detailed design, not aerodynamics is my forte and grad school was 30+ years ago).

Title: Re: Boeing Flying Wing concepts from the mid 1930s
Post by: Rickshaw on May 12, 2014, 11:44:33 AM

Quote from: GTX_Admin on May 10, 2014, 05:08:41 AM

Hmmm…similar:

([url]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-rA6Gv15S2vk/UDwks2BQwzI/AAAAAAAADWk/5OR2FP0bxXw/s1600/futura2.jpg[/url])

From, if I remember correctly, the movie "Things to Come" made IIRC in 1938.  Great movie, loads of interesting concepts from the 1930s.  Well worth watching, one of the Korda Brother classics.