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Title: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 09, 2014, 08:30:15 AM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on February 09, 2014, 08:33:43 AM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)
It should make one heck of a 1/72 supersonic cruise missile, especially under a 1/72 bomber.  Vulcan's Hammer depicts a couple different Avro designs that fit that description, the Avro 734 being one of them.
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on February 09, 2014, 10:19:49 AM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)

I want to make a 1/72 scale one  -----   >:D

I'm going to try and draw it in 3D first with the new drafting program I've got, Inventor.  I'll use the model as a guide but I also have a full set of drawings of the earlier Gyron powered version kindly provided by Geoff (thorvic on the What-If Forum) to compare it with.  From what I understand the fuselage shape is similar with the main difference being the engine pods, the FP kit is the four Avons to a pod version.  Once I've done with it, I may keep the kit and build it too, or it might get sold on.
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 09, 2014, 11:04:47 AM

I'm going to try and draw it in 3D first with the new drafting program I've got, Inventor. 

Well, while you're at it...how about a 1/48 one...that could be 3D printed...
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on February 09, 2014, 11:16:10 AM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)

I want to make a 1/72 scale one  -----   >:D

I'm going to try and draw it in 3D first with the new drafting program I've got, Inventor.  I'll use the model as a guide but I also have a full set of drawings of the earlier Gyron powered version kindly provided by Geoff (thorvic on the What-If Forum) to compare it with.  From what I understand the fuselage shape is similar with the main difference being the engine pods, the FP kit is the four Avons to a pod version.  Once I've done with it, I may keep the kit and build it too, or it might get sold on.
You really want a different-looking 730 variation, the book on the Vulcan by Fildes has drawings of an early 730 that looks very similar to the J58-powered B-58 version.
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on February 09, 2014, 06:07:04 PM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)

I want to make a 1/72 scale one  -----   >:D

Ahah, now we know.  :)

Duncan (Overkiller) over on the Whiff Forum built a 1/72 one a few years ago and it was suitably AWESOME. Quite how they'd steer the darn thing on the ground I'm not sure but it looked VERY fast indeed.
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on February 09, 2014, 07:40:38 PM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert


Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)


I want to make a 1/72 scale one  -----   >:D


Ahah, now we know.  :)

Duncan (Overkiller) over on the Whiff Forum built a 1/72 one a few years ago and it was suitably AWESOME. Quite how they'd steer the darn thing on the ground I'm not sure but it looked VERY fast indeed.


Secret Projects:  Topic: Avro 730 (Early Version) - 1/72 Scratchbuild (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=14002.0).

(http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l206/Overkiller_2006/DSCF2402.jpg)

Secret Projects: Topic: Avro 730 and other OR.330 Reconnaissance/Bomber designs (http://www.secretprojects.co.uk/forum/index.php/topic,905.0.html)

Also this Flight SIM image of other uses/schemes over at What-if:

(http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/6319/vigilants.jpg)
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on February 09, 2014, 11:34:52 PM

I'm going to try and draw it in 3D first with the new drafting program I've got, Inventor. 

Well, while you're at it...how about a 1/48 one...that could be 3D printed...

Once it's drawn in Inventor, it can be scaled to any scale.  I'm not sure that 3D printing is a viable option at the moment, the end product would/will be horrendously expensive, that's judging by the cost of a couple of things I just bought.  Also by looking at the Click2Detail website ----
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on February 09, 2014, 11:37:21 PM
Hi Carl,

PM inbound: re. Avro 730

Robert

Now what, I ask myself, is a died-in-the-wool 1/72 scale modeller going to do with a 1/144 scale Avro 730.....???  :)

I want to make a 1/72 scale one  -----   >:D

Ahah, now we know.  :)

Duncan (Overkiller) over on the Whiff Forum built a 1/72 one a few years ago and it was suitably AWESOME. Quite how they'd steer the darn thing on the ground I'm not sure but it looked VERY fast indeed.

Erm!  :-[ :-[  actually, that might have been Duncan that sent me the drawings, the photo of the model on the Secret Projects forum Carl has just posted is Duncan's and he did have a thread on the What-If forum too.  This is the first version of the Avro 730

I remember what he told me about the the second version (the version Fantastic Plastic produces). although the fuselage looks the same shape wise, it's actually quite a bit shorter.  That's the challenging bit I'll have to overcome when I draw it up.  There are some very detailed drawings in the set of the undercarriage gear, the front one could have been lifted straight off a Vulcan.
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 10, 2014, 02:13:39 AM
[I'm not sure that 3D printing is a viable option at the moment, the end product would/will be horrendously expensive, that's judging by the cost of a couple of things I just bought.  Also by looking at the Click2Detail website ----

Click2Detail is a business that needs to make a profit by selling a very specialised product…plus if one already has said 3D printer... ;)
Title: Re: AVRO 730 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on February 10, 2014, 03:09:38 AM
[I'm not sure that 3D printing is a viable option at the moment, the end product would/will be horrendously expensive, that's judging by the cost of a couple of things I just bought.  Also by looking at the Click2Detail website ----

Click2Detail is a business that needs to make a profit by selling a very specialised product…plus if one already has said 3D printer... ;)

Well if you have a 3D Printer that does make a difference doesn't it.  Out of interest, what is the material that's used for the printer to work on, and how much does it cost ?  I know I can't afford a printer at the moment, but I've got my bro' interested in one ---