Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: finsrin on November 04, 2012, 05:29:00 PM
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Started in Spring after the F-138 build. Left to languish on model table when outdoor landscaping and car activities, etc called.
Some how hobby stuff accumulated on table over the Summer until seaplane was no longer visible. After a fair effort to remove upper layers from table the seaplane parts became visible again.
So its back to building PBH-417 flying boat.
PB cuz thatz what flying boats are designated. H-4 for 1/200 Hughs H-4 core model. 17 for 1/72 B-17 2nd in content. B-17 tail and upper fuselage. Building to be 1/72.
Had a Lancaster nose turret and radome above it figured out and fitting or nearly so. Now can't find them. Hope I do.
Engines are undetermined. Likely the next step.
With masking tape help you see basics of PBH-417.
Soon to leave on 10 day or so West coast road trip. Be awhile until can do much.
Like to finish by year end.
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Watching this one intently...
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I like that! :)
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anything further on this? i like flying boats n my granpa was a radar bomber on b-17s so this has got me twitchen in alotta ways!!(allgood)
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sure looks interestin' :) :)
update please.
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Appreciate the interest.
Finally got enough clutter cleared (not that clutter is "cleared") and began work this week. Making progress now.
Many distractions from model building like: garage redo to park GT500 and GT500 modifications, kitchen flood from broken dishwasher and shopping for replacement, computer quit running (not on mine right now), more.....
Should have progress pictures next week.
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Rotten luck!
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Looks very, very promising - can't wait to see it done!
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Progress photos.
B-17 tail section is glued on and now filling-sanding.
Going with engines from 1/72 Revell Lancaster. Inside engines will have bay doors open to show two depth charges or bombs.
Radar dome mounts on front of B-17 cockpit and gun turret in nose. With AN/APS-115 or AN/APS-137 radar a Harpoon can be under each wing.
Is satisfying to be building again.
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Keep on keepin on :)
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This one looks very promising!
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Any updates?
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Any updates?
Not finished. Lot of other callings plus the builder (me) had a malfunction by grabbing wrong spray paint can :-[ resulting unintended results and exclamation of "DARN IT" :o
Build is continuing..............
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Took long enough....... Finished PBH-417. Well almost - yet to mount missiles on outer wing hardppoints.
It all started by finding 1/200 Spruce Goose at a swap meet for $5. Gee, thatz large enough to become 1/72.
After the usual rummaging around thru kits for ideas & parts it came to this.
Briefing sheet lists kits involved, but will describe it here.
B-17 > upper fuselage structure and rear 1/3 of fuselage
B-24 > cockpit canopy glass
B-29 > siting blister is searchlight cover
Lancaster > engines and front turret
PBY > Side blisters and interior bulkheads
Tip tanks found in drop tank box. Decals are random from decal box.
Bill
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If that doesn't look the part!!!!!!!!!!!!! Better late than never man 8) 8)
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Wow is that one fantastic flying boat! It's amazing how you managed to get so many diverse parts to all fit together like that and look sooo right!
Well done, fins!
Brian da Basher
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That is an incredible job! well worth the wait :)
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I have to be honest, I was really skeptical about this in the earlier images, but this really came together and showed me how little I know. It looks great! You've done a wonderful job bringing all the pieces together into something unique and impressive.
Cheers,
Logan
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Mucho Likey!
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Nice. :)
Another to view in person the next time I am down your way.
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Appreciate your comments - Thank you - good to hear you guys like it.
When I found the point where cross sections of H-4 and B-17 rear fuselages were a close match, just had to go with B-17.
Why did it take so long to build? Cuz when about 3/4 done held fuselage to tight which popped off wing and B-17 front structure.
&%@*# >:D All the sanded putty etc let go leaving an ugly scene.
Must admit it was operator malfunction on my part :-[
Set PBH-417 aside and started on gun boat and SBDJ which was pleasantly simpler. Then got into construction of HQ building + bought 1959 Lincoln Continental.
Might move kits into HQ this weekend.
Now its back to gun boat and B-10 builds as time allows.
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I really like how you got the bits to join together Bill, it looks 'just right'
The string of 'stars' dropping down from just in front of the windshield, they look like some decals from a Hobbycraft F-89 kit ---
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A truly outstanding build. :-* :-* :-*
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Bill: I have now crowned you: Sir Bill of the Royal Order of Gloss Sea Blue.
Awesome build.
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Beautiful aircraft... I've looked into the USN's manufacturer letters and I've found the following letters that were unused at the time: A, X, Z; also since this design has some boeing components B could be used
- XPBA-1: Unused
- XPB2B-1: Used for the B-29 in 1947 but not in 1945
- XPBX-1: Unused
- XPBZ-1: Unused
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Good research on designations. I always found the alphabet soup of Navy aircraft designations perplexing.
Where as Army/Air Force P-26, P-40, P-47, B-24, B-25, B-26 type designations made sense to me.
So I contrived PBH-417 this way (if you missed it)
PB > Patrol Bomber works for PBY PBM
H-4 > Hughs H-4 core model of build
17 > Lotz of B-17 content
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that's a ripper... terrific job
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Going with engines from 1/72 Revell Lancaster. Inside engines will have bay doors open to show two depth charges or bombs.
With just engines on starboard, this asymmetric flying boat is very unique. You could save the 2 extra engines for another model and keep this one as twin-engined, no?
Well, you had a serious project for inside engines, but say: one engine on port side and 2 engines on starboard remain possible... ;)
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finsrin
Good research on designations.
Thank you...
By the way, here's the link. I know wikipedia is often thought of as stupid, but the aviation section is improving in quality.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_United_States_Navy_aircraft_designation_system (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1922_United_States_Navy_aircraft_designation_system)
I always found the alphabet soup of Navy aircraft designations perplexing.
It's not as intuitive as the Army or Air Force system but there is logic to it, but it has itself some troubles
- Manufacturer letters change with time
- In some cases to avoid confusion sometimes if a manufacturer letter is done twice even by a different manufacturer you end up with something like F2A
- If a different manufacturer built the same plane as another it got a different manufacturer letter such as the F4F and FM -- same plane, different designation.
- Designations like Bomber Fighter (BF) Scout Bomber (SB), Torpedo Bomber (TB), Bomber Torpedo (BT) all have the weight of being a new letter so for example if the F11C is modified into a fighter bomber it doesn't become BF11C, it becomes BFC
So I contrived PBH-417 this way (if you missed it)
PB > Patrol Bomber works for PBY PBM
H-4 > Hughs H-4 core model of build
17 > Lotz of B-17 content
Okay...
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this is a beautifully done hybridization, congratulations!
(the hull is from the original Spruce Goose, right?)
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(the hull is from the original Spruce Goose, right?)
Right,,, approx front 2/3 of fuselage and all the wing.
Was a challenge to build with my medium skill level. Though did manage to build interior bulkheads and floor which can be seen thru side blisters. Reworking front of fuselage to accept rotating turret and fitting B-17 cockpit did result in comments to self of "now see what you got yourself into".
Increases my appreciation of effort the rest of you put into your builds.
Thanks all......
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Not only fighter are beautiful. Good!
I like your creation!!! :-* :-* :)
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I have to be honest, I was really skeptical about this in the earlier images, but this really came together and showed me how little I know. It looks great! You've done a wonderful job bringing all the pieces together into something unique and impressive.
Cheers,
Logan
Exactly what Logan said ! IMPRESSIVE kitbashing sir !!
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I've just seen this, and it's SERIOUSLY impressive! Lots of good thought and plastic engineering went into that, very impressive. :) :D
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Thank guys for the flattering words. Certainly largest kitbash to date and among most difficult.
Find it nice to switch back-n-forth between more difficult to less difficult builds.
PBH-417 and Slowy Jet were the most challenging builds.