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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: The Big Gimper on October 17, 2012, 09:47:31 PM

Title: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 17, 2012, 09:47:31 PM
A long time ago, in a Forum far far away, I had the small spark of an idea to build a big wing P-47 to be used for weather recon.

But alas I was not able to find the right wing to meet the high standards of the BTS WHIF police.  C:-)

I was struggling to extent the wing span by at least 4-6 scale feet per wing. I tried many different wings but nothing impressed me.

Inspiration hit me last night. While surfing on Republic products, I stumbled upon two builds of the XF-84. One of the builders took the quick build Hobby Boss F-84G (which I have), removed the tip tanks and shorten the fuselage. A quick checked showed that a F-84 wing does with a bit of trimming line up the stock P-47 chord. 

So, out with the saw, chop chop and here we have a Revell P-47M with an extra 12 foot wing span. I cut the P-47 wing just outside the flaps so I could keep the landing gear and guns.

I need to add some piano wire / styrene strips to build a mini-spar to ensure I keep the dihedral constant.  I was also able to attach the existing wing tip.  :)

Here is the new left wing with the right yet to changed. :

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Ottawa-20121017-00092.jpg)

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Ottawa-20121017-00095.jpg)

Carl
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: kitnut617 on October 17, 2012, 09:55:56 PM
I've always wondered what if you replaced the P-47N wingtips with standard P-47D wingtips, how much extra wing span would you actually get ?
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 17, 2012, 11:14:15 PM
Looks like you are on the right track with the wing extensions :)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Frank3k on October 17, 2012, 11:56:52 PM
I like where this is going! The P-47 had a pretty impressive supercharger, so you probably won't need to modify the intakes in the tail much. Are you also going to increase the tail surfaces?
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on October 18, 2012, 12:16:09 AM
I like where this is going! The P-47 had a pretty impressive supercharger, so you probably won't need to modify the intakes in the tail much. Are you also going to increase the tail surfaces?

I had not considered doing that.

I have not done any wind tunnel testing yet unless you will accept me running around in the basement going varoom sufficient data collection. ;D

Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Frank3k on October 18, 2012, 01:50:46 AM
I have not done any wind tunnel testing yet unless you will accept me running around in the basement going varoom sufficient data collection. ;D

Good enough for government work!

You could always add a T-tail. That would certainly please some/most people around here...
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: raafif on October 18, 2012, 08:35:00 AM
OOOH! nice (I must be in a good mood today!)  T-tail sound good too :)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Brian da Basher on October 18, 2012, 08:43:12 AM
Wow that's an outstanding concept and backed up with some incredible kit surgery to boot!

I bet that clipped wing F-84 will be pretty hot, too.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 03, 2012, 04:11:06 AM
Update: Here are both wings primed and attached and a comparison to my Academy P-47D:

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modelling%202012/Ottawa-20121102-00107.jpg)

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modelling%202012/IMG-20121102-00108.jpg)

To make it a completely boring finish, it will be silver with markings from the new P-47 SEAC T-bolt decal sheet from Xtradecal.

Carl
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Daryl J. on November 03, 2012, 07:22:46 AM
Nice! 
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Brian da Basher on November 03, 2012, 07:45:16 AM
Wow those new wings look so right on that P-47!

What a fantastic concept! I'm green with envy.

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 03, 2012, 02:56:45 PM
Definitely looking good.
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Dr. YoKai on November 04, 2012, 09:28:24 AM
 A perfect extension of the planform! And to just stir the pot a bit, perhaps a V-tail!
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: finsrin on November 04, 2012, 01:15:12 PM
Such a find on using F-84 wing to make a model of high altitude P-47.
Looks and seems plausible.
Figuring Luftwafa is flying high altitude recon thatz been unreachable.
Could also remove 2 or 4 guns to keep weight down and altitude up.
Am impressed with your fitment of F-84 wings into structure of P-47 wings   :)  8)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on November 04, 2012, 09:40:09 PM
Given all the great ideas, I think I will build two more. I have extra P-47Ms in stash.

@Frank3k: For the tail, it looks like a Meteor tail will fit. And wouldn't you know it, the Xtrakit Meteor NF. 11 comes with an extra tail. Just need source some horiz stabilizers.

@Dr. Yokai. Y tail. yes.. Maybe from a Magister?

@Finsrin: Certainly no guns for the next two kits.
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 15, 2013, 03:51:13 AM
Is there a statute of limitations on build updates? My last post was on November 4th.

Anyways from the shelf of doom, we have an update.

@finsrin: I took your advice and removed two guns per wing.

I'm about 3/4s done. Still need to glue on a few more bits and another 1,000 itty bitty decals.

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modeling%202013/IMG_0810-1.jpg) (http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/CF-101B/media/Modeling%202013/IMG_0810-1.jpg.html)

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modeling%202013/IMG_0805.jpg) (http://s1139.photobucket.com/user/CF-101B/media/Modeling%202013/IMG_0805.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Brian da Basher on September 15, 2013, 05:15:25 AM
No statute of limitations on updating a mighty fine whiff!

I like the four guns and the checker-board on the tail feathers.

Nice work!

Brian da Basher
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on September 15, 2013, 05:30:17 AM
Nice work Carl!  Looks natural with the wing extensions.
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: FAAMAN on September 16, 2013, 01:25:33 PM
Now that is nice!! Well done so far. 8)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: kitnut617 on September 16, 2013, 09:11:35 PM
I really like that Carl !   :) :)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: taiidantomcat on September 16, 2013, 11:26:08 PM
Nice job on those wings! That was seamless. I would have never guessed there was major surgery there! I love the natural metal finish too. Great Whif All around  :-*
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Dr. YoKai on September 17, 2013, 01:23:34 AM
 That was worth the wait!
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Camthalion on September 17, 2013, 06:56:40 AM
very nice work
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: ed s on September 17, 2013, 08:06:20 AM
Nicely done.  It's difficult to blend in a wing extension like that and make it invisible.  And you made it work with a metal finish.  That's impressive.

Ed
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Empty Handed on September 17, 2013, 07:16:45 PM
Love it!!
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Tophe on September 18, 2013, 11:42:04 AM
Wow, that is a different (and nice) P-47! :-*
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Old Wombat on September 19, 2013, 07:59:16 PM
Very nice!

:)

Guy
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: apophenia on September 21, 2013, 07:01:12 AM
That is gorgeous! Excellent combo of parts  :)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: The Big Gimper on September 26, 2013, 02:23:04 AM
Now I am done. After I dropped it and broke off one of the landing gear struts.  :-X

(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modeling%202013/IMG_0841.jpg)


(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modeling%202013/IMG_0838.jpg)

Family Portrait
(http://i1139.photobucket.com/albums/n547/CF-101B/Modeling%202013/IMG_0840.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: kitnut617 on September 26, 2013, 03:43:09 AM
Yeah!   :)  very nice Carl ---  :icon_alabanza:
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: Tophe on September 26, 2013, 10:50:54 AM
Wonderful! :-*
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: FAAMAN on September 26, 2013, 01:11:11 PM
Seems to be a trend here?  ;D

All very well done indeed! Excellent work! 8)
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: ChrisF on October 01, 2013, 02:38:00 AM
Woah that popped up from nowhere... Very nice fella !!
Title: Re: 1/72 Revell P-47 Big Wing Weather Recon
Post by: mikejapan on October 02, 2013, 06:14:56 AM
Holy mother of god