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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2012, 05:48:12 AM

Title: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2012, 05:48:12 AM
Hi folks,

What if the IAI Lavi actually made it into service - what possible whiffs are possible?

SAAF machines?
Turkish?
Taiwanese?
Chinese?
Naval variant?

(http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/lavi/lavi_schem_01.gif)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2012, 05:48:55 AM
A rough Lavi with CFTs.  Would need to reposition the airbrakes though:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/LaviCFT.jpg)

Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on June 24, 2012, 06:14:50 AM
When IAI first started studying the Lavi, they went with a F404.  Northrop Aircraft did a study of F-20/Lavi hybrids to brig the overall costs down.  There's some interesting aircraft there.  Unfortunately, IAI decided against going that route.
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 24, 2012, 06:19:08 AM
They would be interesting.
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on June 24, 2012, 06:30:34 AM
They would be interesting.
have to see if I can find and scan the drawings.  The "simple" approach was the Lavi wings and tail grafted to what was essentially the F-20 fuselage (well, this was early enough they still were calling it the F-5G, but same aircraft).  The more complicated approach was essentially an all-new airframe design to the canted frame at the back of the F-5/F-20 cockpit; this would allow single-seat, twin-seat, or recce cockpits and front ends to be installed.
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Litvyak on June 24, 2012, 06:46:50 AM
Production Lavi? SAAF for sure, RoC probably... Thailand, maybe?
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 29, 2012, 05:43:08 AM
http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012/08/could-israels-lavi-project-be.html (http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/2012/08/could-israels-lavi-project-be.html)
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 29, 2012, 06:34:43 AM
Chinese one was built wasn't it Greg ?
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 29, 2012, 06:50:07 AM
Well, I don't think there is actually any proof...

(http://i56.tinypic.com/35ldyet.jpg)
(http://i51.tinypic.com/nxfv4.jpg)
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 29, 2012, 08:34:58 PM
That's an interesting comparison, so what-if the J-10 was acquired by the Israelies  -----

I notice that the plan view is of the single seaters whereas the side views are of the two seaters.

Oddly (or coincidently), I was just looking at the Trumpeter 1/72 J-10 two-seater I have on Monday night and then your post pops up yesterday.  I was comparing the differences between the J-10 and J-20 kits to see if there was any design follow-through.  There is a bit but there's other elements in the J-20 which tends to hide it.
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on August 30, 2012, 06:31:12 AM
Sri Lanka?
Chile?
Ecuador?

They've all bought Israeli hardware (not neccessarily fighters).

How about Singapore as an A-4 replacement?

Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 30, 2012, 07:05:42 AM
I do like the Singaporean idea...and I do have a Lavi kit and Singaporean decals...hmmm
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Geoff on September 01, 2012, 07:06:16 PM
I do like the Singaporean idea...and I do have a Lavi kit and Singaporean decals...hmmm

Yes, go for it!!!!!!!!!!!! :-*
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: tsrjoe on September 02, 2012, 12:00:47 AM
i think the Lavi / J.10 is more a case of convergant evolution as opposed to being a 'copy' or based upon, theres just no similarities except in basic configuration  :-\

as for a 'production' Lavi, South africa would be a probable as there was some consultations taking place at the time

cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 29, 2013, 06:15:14 AM
Maybe of use to some:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img826/3994/iailavi.jpg)
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Volkodav on September 29, 2013, 09:56:27 AM
Mmmm....India?

Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 29, 2013, 12:47:33 PM
Mmmm....India?

Oh...yes please!  Instead of the Tejas.
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Volkodav on September 29, 2013, 12:58:14 PM
 ;)
Title: Re: Israeli Aircraft Industries Lavi Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 27, 2020, 01:57:36 AM
What might an operational Lavi looked like:

(https://combatace.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://i.imgur.com/wZJC7er.jpg&key=3fd963d96bdd5b32c22edd7c67dd7f1fd61b91dc04b8006bb8840679734108a9)
(https://combatace.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://i.imgur.com/WQTiHt5.jpg&key=071b66fd26cdab106231cf1ad7738e34dab2220c8cb8a318907d2bede1a00760)
(https://combatace.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://i.imgur.com/Rrtk4Er.jpg&key=b432a033135c73a6fe7d7ce68fc858a13d69edb5a1c8cd150ec6ef656e89e025)