Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Group and Themed Builds => Canadian GB => Topic started by: MAT on August 03, 2026, 07:30:09 PM
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I will build the danish F-104G i the grey paint, the planes carried before the SM67 green.
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Very nice!
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Excellent! Book-end twins ;D
This is going to be cool :smiley: :smiley:
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At last some progress. Real-world can be very disturbing
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Looking good :smiley:
At last some progress. Real-world can be very disturbing
Agreed ... both disruptive and very disturbing :o
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I forgot to write, that the kit is FineMold's F-104J
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Time for painting
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Time for painting
Looking appropriately slick :smiley:
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Now putting some paint on the Starfighter
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The CF-104 is now painted, the Martin-Baker seats installed and its time for putting on the decals
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Very nice!
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Very nice!
Indeed. And a very dramatic scheme :smiley:
Looking forward to the decals!
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IIRC the reason the Starfighter used to have the wings painted white was because the testing was done in the southern California desert. The intense sunlight was causing components in the wings, hydraulics I believe, to overheat so the solution was to paint the wings white. This got written into the regs and Starfighters were painted that way no matter where they were based. This seems to have gotten changed in European service. It’s a good story anyway.
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Interesting ... I'd never heard that story about the origin of white-winged Starfighters before.
At any rate the RCAF originally followed suit on bare-metal airframes - gloss white uppers with grey undersides. Then they all got resprayed in dark camouflage uppers ... go figure!
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I read up on it a little and it was hydraulic o rings and seals that would leak from getting too hot. But that was really only a problem in southern areas. So places like Canada and Europe were naturally cool enough for it to not be a problem. It just took some time to change the T. O.s to allow different colors. Perhaps someone thought of getting seals from another supplier that could stand the heat!
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Another thing about the colours of the danish F-104s. According to a mechanic, who worked on the planes, the light grey was the same colour, that was used on CAF CF-101 Voodoos.
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I read up on it a little and it was hydraulic o rings and seals that would leak from getting too hot. But that was really only a problem in southern areas. So places like Canada and Europe were naturally cool enough for it to not be a problem. It just took some time to change the T. O.s to allow different colors. Perhaps someone thought of getting seals from another supplier that could stand the heat!
That makes sense, Ken. CFTOs have also been a bit on the conservative side (and followed USAF TOs quite carefully).
Another thing about the colours of the danish F-104s. According to a mechanic, who worked on the planes, the light grey was the same colour, that was used on CAF CF-101 Voodoos.
Interesting, MAT. That is an odd one. As Carl (The Big Gimper) has noted elsewhere:
"When [Voodoos] went through Depot Level Inspection and Repair (DLIR) at Bristol Aerospace in Winnipeg, they were repainted with Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 gloss light grey."
So ... a minor mystery as to why those RDAF Starfighters ever ended up in 'Voodoo Grey' 8)
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I read up on it a little and it was hydraulic o rings and seals that would leak from getting too hot. But that was really only a problem in southern areas. So places like Canada and Europe were naturally cool enough for it to not be a problem. It just took some time to change the T. O.s to allow different colors. Perhaps someone thought of getting seals from another supplier that could stand the heat!
That makes sense, Ken. CFTOs have also been a bit on the conservative side (and followed USAF TOs quite carefully).
Another thing about the colours of the danish F-104s. According to a mechanic, who worked on the planes, the light grey was the same colour, that was used on CAF CF-101 Voodoos.
Interesting, MAT. That is an odd one. As Carl (The Big Gimper) has noted elsewhere:
"When [Voodoos] went through Depot Level Inspection and Repair (DLIR) at Bristol Aerospace in Winnipeg, they were repainted with Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 gloss light grey."
So ... a minor mystery as to why those RDAF Starfighters ever ended up in 'Voodoo Grey' 8)
The mechanic gave the colour as FS26515. Could that be Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 gloss light grey?
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I read up on it a little and it was hydraulic o rings and seals that would leak from getting too hot. But that was really only a problem in southern areas. So places like Canada and Europe were naturally cool enough for it to not be a problem. It just took some time to change the T. O.s to allow different colors. Perhaps someone thought of getting seals from another supplier that could stand the heat!
That makes sense, Ken. CFTOs have also been a bit on the conservative side (and followed USAF TOs quite carefully).
Another thing about the colours of the danish F-104s. According to a mechanic, who worked on the planes, the light grey was the same colour, that was used on CAF CF-101 Voodoos.
Interesting, MAT. That is an odd one. As Carl (The Big Gimper) has noted elsewhere:
"When [Voodoos] went through Depot Level Inspection and Repair (DLIR) at Bristol Aerospace in Winnipeg, they were repainted with Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 gloss light grey."
So ... a minor mystery as to why those RDAF Starfighters ever ended up in 'Voodoo Grey' 8)
The mechanic gave the colour as FS26515. Could that be Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 gloss light grey?
I was that mechanic. ;D
One light gloss grey paint aka Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 to rule them all!
(https://www.scalehobbyist.com/images/products/TES/TES00002039/TES00002039_0_l.jpg)
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IIRC the reason the Starfighter used to have the wings painted white was because the testing was done in the southern California desert. The intense sunlight was causing components in the wings, hydraulics I believe, to overheat so the solution was to paint the wings white. This got written into the regs and Starfighters were painted that way no matter where they were based. This seems to have gotten changed in European service. It’s a good story anyway.
I did not know this! ???
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I was that mechanic. ;D
One light gloss grey paint aka Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 to rule them all!
My source was a mechanic in RDAF
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I was that mechanic. ;D
One light gloss grey paint aka Alumigrip AA 92-A-312 to rule them all!
My source was a mechanic in RDAF
Please tell him I like his choice of paints.
My background is I was an armorer in the CAF. I worked on the Voodoo when I was with 409 SQN. I loaded both the AIM-4D and AIR-2A.
So Voodoo grey is my favourite colour.
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Paint and decals done - Finished!
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Paint and decals done - Finished!
Very nice :smiley: And almost nothing left here of that SM67 green! (Love how the wing roundels got masked off as squares - makes for a very interesting look.)
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Paint and decals done - Finished!
Very nice :smiley: And almost nothing left here of that SM67 green! (Love how the wing roundels got masked off as squares - makes for a very interesting look.)
The plane is painted as it looked in 1965, while serving with ESK 726 at Aalborg Air Base. The SM/67 paint was introduced in 1967, though it took some years before every plane had been repainted, as you can see in this picture. The plane in front is in the old paint scheme, while two of the planes behind it, had been repainted
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Paint and decals done - Finished!
Sweet! The two colors plus the NMF really work.
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The plane is painted as it looked in 1965, while serving with ESK 726 at Aalborg Air Base. The SM/67 paint was introduced in 1967, though it took some years before every plane had been repainted, as you can see in this picture. The plane in front is in the old paint scheme, while two of the planes behind it, had been repainted
Oh, okay. So, what I am (mis)reading as green is actually a darker-toned unpainted metal?
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The plane is painted as it looked in 1965, while serving with ESK 726 at Aalborg Air Base. The SM/67 paint was introduced in 1967, though it took some years before every plane had been repainted, as you can see in this picture. The plane in front is in the old paint scheme, while two of the planes behind it, had been repainted
Oh, okay. So, what I am (mis)reading as green is actually a darker-toned unpainted metal?
Could be because of the lighting in my improvised desktop photo studio ;D
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Another beautiful job - a veritable bouquet of F-104s. :-*