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Modelling => Group and Themed Builds => Fabulous '50s GB => Topic started by: Robomog on June 29, 2025, 04:38:49 AM

Title: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on June 29, 2025, 04:38:49 AM
Hi all

Couldn't resist a 50's GB

I'm weighing in with this......

(https://i.imgur.com/W4vYV7R.jpeg)

Not that many parts

(https://i.imgur.com/Yq1o4hj.jpeg)

A Whiff in a box  ;D

I'm drawn towards the Japanese version but I do like the Royal Navy colours also.

Mind you I have a vision  of the Pogo castoring across a rolling deck like so many shopping trollies  ;D.

My other idea is a shiny silver finish akin to the later EE Lightnings complete with cannons and sidewinder missiles.

 I'll have to give it some more thought, its the usual half arsed under researched project you would expect from me ;) ;)

More when it happens.........


Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: robunos on June 29, 2025, 04:47:13 AM
If you're going to use the kit decals, check them before you use them. I've not built this kit, but I have built quite a few of these Kozavody / AZ models kits. When they're good, the decals are excellent, but they can sometime be poor quality, poor register, visible dot patterns, incorrect colours, etc. Also they are very thin, which is good when they're on the model, but they tear easily, and also they can take longer than expected to release from the paper, so don't rush to slide them off . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on June 29, 2025, 06:29:02 AM
Thanks for the heads up  :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: robunos on June 29, 2025, 10:01:25 PM
No worries . . . and, you've provided me with some inspiration, Stay Tuned . . .     ;D   ;)

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 30, 2025, 12:50:41 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on June 30, 2025, 11:07:18 AM
Got to love a Pogo!
Those markings are nuts! I think I might go with the JASDF as that’s the least sane choice.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: perttime on June 30, 2025, 11:43:20 PM
JASDF would be less sane.
I just think that things tend to look good in "silver" and in Royal Navy greys.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 14, 2025, 10:10:34 PM
Hi all.

Finally made some decisions on the how the Pogo is going to be finished.

It's going to be an interceptor in RAF 74 (tiger) squadron markings, the main colour will be glossy silver with gloss black tail fins, I'm not sure if that massive spinner will be black or another colour.

The markings will come from this sheet....

(https://i.imgur.com/Gn2MbLm.jpeg)

The tiger heads are definitely going to make an appearance and I might work in some tiger teeth  decoration as well.

It's going to need some armament so I'm enlarging the wing pods to allow for the gun mechanism, further armament will be Sidewinder missiles on the wing tips.

Here's the bits.....

(https://i.imgur.com/CdtTvFL.jpeg)

A messy mock up of the wing tip layout

(https://i.imgur.com/LbfSFUZ.jpeg)

And the PSR has started

(https://i.imgur.com/ZXg483p.jpeg)

Internal fuel is probably a bit limited, so I'm going to add a couple of external tanks, Voodoo style, to give it more range

Thanks for looking.....

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: perttime on July 15, 2025, 01:58:47 AM
A tiger coloured spinner?

Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 15, 2025, 02:45:39 AM
Maybe, it's big enough !!!   ;D ;D

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Buzzbomb on July 15, 2025, 06:09:52 AM
Moving along well, interested to see how this scheme looks on this model
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Dr. YoKai on July 15, 2025, 06:38:08 AM
Well, I was sort of hoping to see the FAA scheme, but I'm sure it'll look terrific when finished.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 15, 2025, 07:41:21 AM
Apologies, it was in the running but I was  lured by shiny silver   ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 20, 2025, 09:00:59 PM
Hi all

A bit more progress, as is expected from KP it looks good but the fit leaves a little to be desired and the instructions  are inaccurate.

One part (19) does not appear on the instructions it is actually the valance behind the control panel and part 16 is shown as the valance is actually the rear bulkhead.  Fit of the cockpit parts is poor and it is difficult to reproduce the real thing. I've done my best but now the cockpit is the RAF fit    ::)

(https://i.imgur.com/LLIRcC6.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/rm1Xqjo.jpeg)

Considering this is a short run kit with no locating pins the fuselage went together pretty well with only a minimum of filling and sanding. Some of the detail didn't line up too well

(https://i.imgur.com/YSDWSbC.jpeg)

 I had something similar on the wings.  but that got lost in the alterations  ;D

Thanks for looking.......

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 27, 2025, 01:40:10 AM
Hi all

The wings are on plus the air intakes and tail exhaust, fit was better than expected but still needed filler, especially around the intakes.

(https://i.imgur.com/rrDzK4h.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/crQ9oCf.jpeg)

A little bit of fettling and we will be ready for primer

More when it happens.........

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on July 27, 2025, 11:51:58 AM
Is that Perfect Plastic Putty? Looking very good!
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Claymore on July 27, 2025, 10:38:19 PM
Coming along nicely!  :smiley:
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Old Wombat on July 27, 2025, 11:10:40 PM
 :smiley: :smiley: 8)
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on July 28, 2025, 02:09:03 AM
Thanks chaps

Kerick :-  yes that is perfect plastic putty, not too good for bulk filling , but absolutely brilliant for join lines and crack filling

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 05, 2025, 02:17:17 AM
Hi all

Got through the primer/PSR/primer/PSR stage fairly easily and it's now ready for painting,

I've found some very shiny silver paint courtesy of MTN by Montana Colours (made in Spain), it's probably the brightest I've seen in a rattle can but has a down side in that it us difficult to mask and some of the metallic surface pulls off with the tape, maybe you have to leave it a few days to fully dry.

To get around this i am going to spray the black sections first and then the silver.

(https://i.imgur.com/BFPjT8V.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/Rdbrmd2.jpeg)

I've just placed the prop in position here,  the blades are very thin and flimsy, they will be the last pice of the kit to be assembled.

More when it happens......

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Old Wombat on August 05, 2025, 10:55:44 AM
'Mog, with the masking issue, either;
1: remove the masking while the paint is still wet (this will mean the paint on the tape hasn't bonded to the paint on the model), or
2: get a sharp hobby knife & cut along the edges of the masking tape before removal.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on August 05, 2025, 11:53:54 AM
I frequently paint the radome first as it’s easy to wrap tape around the top of the “cone” shape rather than the base of it.
Doesn’t silver or metallic paint work better with a black base coat anyway?
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 09, 2025, 06:08:36 PM
Thanks for the advice chaps

Kerrick :-  I think you are right re undercoat for silver when spraying, but I'll be using a rattlecan, they push out so much paint the primer colour us irrelevant   ;D ;D

Had a small set back, the original missile system design is flawed, if I fired a sidewinder with my current setup the rear fins would catch the wing pod. To fix this I've turned them into seperate rails  and mounted them above and below the wing pods.

(https://i.imgur.com/zH3pKtf.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/aD96t2k.jpeg)

Problem solved and to my eyes it looks better aesthetically

Thanks for looking....

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 17, 2025, 06:51:55 PM
Hi all

Well I said it was going to be shiny, but it's come out of the paint shop VERY shiny  ;D

(https://i.imgur.com/nsxax7i.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/zNyVXED.jpeg)

I'm going let it dry properly for a couple of days( it's been 12 hours and it's still tacky) and then handle it very carefully when i finish it off so I don't loose the shine,  some cotton gloves may be required methinks  ;D

More when it happens .......

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Old Wombat on August 17, 2025, 07:58:49 PM
Who needs guns when you can permanently blind your enemy?  8) ;)
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 17, 2025, 09:18:43 PM
Oh yea !

It's reverse stealth technology

"Hey look at me !"

"I see you........  aaaargh blinded !!!!! "

 ;D ;D ;D ;D

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: perttime on August 18, 2025, 01:31:07 AM
Who needs guns when you can permanently blind your enemy?  8) ;)
If you do have guns, it is enough to be bright enough that the enemy cannot look at you.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: robunos on August 18, 2025, 01:42:16 AM
SHINY !!   ;D   ;D

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 18, 2025, 11:41:07 AM
Like it. No drag or weight on that due to paint.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on August 19, 2025, 03:31:46 AM
It would look good overflying a certain head of state in Alaska……..
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 20, 2025, 08:36:52 AM
Hi all

Well it looks like the shiny option has come around and bitten me on the bum. I was removing the masking and a few minutes later found my finger prints embedded all over the aircraft,  the paint has not set even after waiting over two days.

I've managed to smooth most of it out but it has left it with dull, tarnished patches, I'm going to have to give it another coat and wait probably a week for the damned stuff to set.

I tried over spraying the test aircraft with gloss and matt varnish but that made it look more patchy and took the shine off it. I might have to go from pristine to a well weathered finish.

Not sure if I'm going to meet the dead line now, let's hope so.

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 22, 2025, 09:28:39 AM
Hi all

Sadly the shiny finish has gone using copious amounts of white spirit and lots of paper kitchen towels. Unfortunately the white spirit also attacked some of the joints and bits started falling off.

(https://i.imgur.com/UqheM7w.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/idY5gBs.jpeg)

It's looking rather forlorn now but at least I've got a stable base again.

Going to need some prep before priming again.

For the new colour scheme I'm leaning towards a light gray with black fins and yellow wingtips not sure weather to go for standard or low res roundels probably the former.

Thanks for looking

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on August 22, 2025, 10:41:09 AM
Silver paint can be an incredible PITA! And it was looking really good!
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on August 22, 2025, 01:04:12 PM
Sad to see the painting effort go pear-shaped but hopefully the next attempt will result in success. 

I recall a similar experience with a model car when I was in middle school.  I used some spray paint intended for automotive purposes (like painting metal) on the model car and the end result was a mass of chemically melted plastic.  Hard lesson to learn but one I have never repeated again.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: apophenia on August 23, 2025, 04:51:49 AM
I feel your pain, 'Mog. Still, I can't help but note the cooling weathering effect on the starboard side of that fin!  :smiley:
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 23, 2025, 07:24:57 AM
Well, on the brighter side.. you get to build it twice  ;)
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 23, 2025, 08:17:08 AM
Oh. Ha ha  ;D ;D ;D

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Frank3k on August 23, 2025, 08:52:23 AM
That's too bad - it looks like it's been in a boneyard for a few years.

Two options - Vallejo Metal Color acrylics. they're designed for airbrushing, but they will brush paint well. They look like metal when dry. The other option is Rub N' Buff metallic wax. It can be messy to apply (and remove!) but it looks like metal when it's polished/rubbed off.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 23, 2025, 06:31:14 PM
Thanks for the advice, I'll keep it in mind for future builds, but I've had it with metallics for the moment.

I'm going for a light gray finish now hopefully without any hiccups,  time is getting short.

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: robunos on August 23, 2025, 09:00:20 PM
For what it's worth, my technique for metallic finished is to first spray with Humbrol 56 Aluminium from a rattle can, then brush paint whichever Vallejo Model Color metallic colour is suitable for the finish i require . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 23, 2025, 10:53:16 PM
Thanks Robin

I've never used  Vallejo metallics but your method looks sound, like Frank's advice, I'll keep it in mind for later. :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 27, 2025, 09:40:53 PM
Hi all

On the road to recovery, joints re filled and sanded, lumps and bumps in the paint remaining sanded, cockpit remasked. Coat of primer applied.

(https://i.imgur.com/C3fxzHk.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/RqsMxWp.jpeg)

Once that had dried sprayed a coat of Light Aircraft Gray, then brush painted the tails black and the wing tips yellow.

(https://i.imgur.com/8QsNSEM.jpeg)

(https://i.imgur.com/L3SXS8F.jpeg)

Needs a little tidying up where the colours meet (my hands are not as steady as they used to be) then a coat of matt varnish and it's time for decals.

It's not as spectacular as it was, but I'm back on track :D :D :D

More when it happens

Mog
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Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: apophenia on August 28, 2025, 05:28:32 AM
Now that is a 'fresh start'!  Nice save, 'Mog  :smiley:
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Kerick on August 28, 2025, 10:00:40 AM
Looking very good! Nice recovery!
I might have chucked that out myself.
Title: Re: YF-1 Pogo
Post by: Robomog on August 28, 2025, 02:25:19 PM
Thanks guys

Kerick - it got very close to the box of doom but I've never missed a GB deadline in the eight years I've been on sprues, so I had to give it one more go  ;)

Mog
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