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Modelling => Group and Themed Builds => Kitbash / Frankenstein GB => Topic started by: robunos on January 15, 2025, 03:03:44 AM

Title: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on January 15, 2025, 03:03:44 AM
Welcome to the Kitbash / Frankenstein GB Chat Thread. Use this thread for any general comments, questions, and / or chat you may wish to air.


cheers,
Robin.

Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: PFJN on January 29, 2025, 02:32:27 AM
Hi,
I've been thinking about trying to do something for this GB but was having trouble coming up with a good idea.  Then last nite after watching a video that included a discussion of the Fisher Eagle, which was designed to use parts from other aircraft (or at least parts based on parts from other aircraft) I got the idea of maybe trying to take the folding wings from one design and fit them to the fuselage,engine and tail from another design as a means of trying to help make an existing design more "carrier capable".

Along these lines in looking at Wikipedia I see that the Vultee Vengeance and Grumman Hellcat appearto have wings of similar area,although the Vengeance had a longer wing span than the span of the Hellcat.  And they also appear to have a similar (though likely not identical) wing/fuselage connection configuration.  As such I think I might try and do a Franken Bulld of a Vengeance with Hellcat Wings, Main (wing mounted) Landing Gear, and Tail Hook.  I will likely need to try and transfer over the dive flaps from the Vengeance to the new wings, but they appear to be "fence type" fittings mounted to the top and bottom of the wing so hopefully that might not be too hard.

Here are a couple quick rough sketches to give an idea of what I'm thinking (with the Franken Build shown in between the base Vengeance and Hellcat).

Pat

(https://www.mnvdet.com/Other/Misc/FrankenPlane1.jpg)
(https://www.mnvdet.com/Other/Misc/FrankenPlane2.jpg)

Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on January 29, 2025, 04:05:19 AM
I’ve always liked the wing layout on the vengeance. Now you have to use the Vengeance wings on something else!
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: PFJN on January 29, 2025, 04:27:48 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 30, 2025, 12:29:30 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Dr. YoKai on February 02, 2025, 12:04:51 AM
 I should probably get a ruling before I start on this one. It will use components from three kits, but...they are all the same kit, the old Frog MC 202 Folgore. I have wanted to build the IMAM Ro. 67 trimotor heavy fighter for ages. Figured the engines of the Folgore were a good place to start, and thought I could fake up the fuselage and wings along the way. I will probably use the canopy from another old Frog kit, the Ju 87 G, maybe cut down a little, and maybe as a vac master if I get ambitious enough. I started on the fuselage and some cutting awhile ago, but got distracted. If it isn't considered to be too far along to qualify, I'd like to start with this project. (And the walking FT-17s depending on hoe quickly work proceeds.)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/54300216541_e2ef9a77b9_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2qJjNA2)DSCF1115 (https://flic.kr/p/2qJjNA2) by VileDr.Yo (https://www.flickr.com/photos/46965833@N07/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on February 02, 2025, 03:20:35 AM
I'm happy with this . . .  :smiley:
I'm all for participation, and the finished model will be of a different type to the donor kits, so away you go . . .


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: finsrin on February 02, 2025, 06:21:25 AM
Do like this.  Neato  :smiley:
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: apophenia on February 03, 2025, 06:25:43 AM
Oh yeah! Looking forward to the FT-17 walkers ((blindées à marcher?), Doc.

But, a model IMAM Ro.67 fighter would be chockers full of weird Regia Aeronautica goodness! Love it  :-*
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Frank3k on February 03, 2025, 09:03:16 AM
Oh yeah! Looking forward to the FT-17 walkers ((blindées à marcher?), Doc

Maybe véhicule blindé quadrupède or blindé marchant? I have a crappy old FT-17 hull. Hmmmm...
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: apophenia on February 04, 2025, 05:39:33 AM
Maybe véhicule blindé quadrupède ...

Love it!  ;D
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on February 15, 2025, 02:22:39 AM
And we're back . . .
 I've been In Communicado for a few days owing to a computer problem, but that's been sorted, so normal service is now resumed . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 15, 2025, 02:36:48 AM
Oh shit...he's back...scatter everyone. :o
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on February 15, 2025, 06:18:08 AM
What about a lower tank chassis combined with a 1/24th truck cab to make a super snowcat? I’ve got a Heller Leopard kit where the lower hull is only usable for whiffing while the upper hull and turret is not too bad. Anybody want the upper parts?
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 15, 2025, 07:41:32 AM
What about a lower tank chassis combined with a 1/24th truck cab to make a super snowcat? I’ve got a Heller Leopard kit where the lower hull is only usable for whiffing while the upper hull and turret is not too bad. Anybody want the upper parts?
It could become an overland delivery service vehicle for out of the way locations.  Tracked UPS/FedEx/USPS? 
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on February 15, 2025, 10:29:17 AM
What about a lower tank chassis combined with a 1/24th truck cab to make a super snowcat? I’ve got a Heller Leopard kit where the lower hull is only usable for whiffing while the upper hull and turret is not too bad. Anybody want the upper parts?
It could become an overland delivery service vehicle for out of the way locations.  Tracked UPS/FedEx/USPS?

Interesting idea! Decals?
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 15, 2025, 01:18:05 PM
What about a lower tank chassis combined with a 1/24th truck cab to make a super snowcat? I’ve got a Heller Leopard kit where the lower hull is only usable for whiffing while the upper hull and turret is not too bad. Anybody want the upper parts?
It could become an overland delivery service vehicle for out of the way locations.  Tracked UPS/FedEx/USPS?
Interesting idea! Decals?

If there are no decals available then it would be up to you making your own.  Or making a stencil as a last resort. 
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on February 15, 2025, 01:42:20 PM
What about a lower tank chassis combined with a 1/24th truck cab to make a super snowcat? I’ve got a Heller Leopard kit where the lower hull is only usable for whiffing while the upper hull and turret is not too bad. Anybody want the upper parts?
It could become an overland delivery service vehicle for out of the way locations.  Tracked UPS/FedEx/USPS?
Interesting idea! Decals?

If there are no decals available then it would be up to you making your own.  Or making a stencil as a last resort.

I’m sure I could make something.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on February 15, 2025, 02:43:31 PM
This might be a good start though the logos are a bit  dated: HobbyLink > Gofer Racing > 1/25th scale Delivery Van Decals (https://www.hobbylinc.com/gofer-racing-delivery-van-decals--fedex,-ups-and-more-plastic-model-vehicle-decal-1:24-1:25-scale-11066)

Something a bit more current at this link: Fusion Decals > HO Scale FedEx Decals (https://fsdecals.com/collections/fedex)
Go to the home/main page at this link to look at the other decals available: Fusion Decals (https://fsdecals.com/)

Google search results for the above links (https://www.google.com/search?q=1/24%20scale%20FedEx%20decals)
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on February 17, 2025, 12:17:34 PM
Between this GB and the one on Whatifmodelers I need to kitbash a bad idea.......
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Buzzbomb on February 17, 2025, 01:23:06 PM
Between this GB and the one on Whatifmodelers I need to kitbash a bad idea.......

Like a Lancaster with Bristol Perseus engines   ;D
it is nice to able to do a two for one.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on February 18, 2025, 10:43:20 AM
Between this GB and the one on Whatifmodelers I need to kitbash a bad idea.......

Like a Lancaster with Bristol Perseus engines   ;D
it is nice to able to do a two for one.

Using the lower hull of the Heller Leopard kit is a bad idea. Not in the intention of the GB however.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Buzzbomb on March 09, 2025, 09:10:58 AM
Hi Robin and Mod Team.

Been struggling for inspiration for this so a stare at the stash highlighted a BMP.
The other part is a already build BS-3 100mm Anti Tank gun.
The thought bubble is to mount the gun on a BMP ? Is using the built kit that will have nearly a full demolition job to get it wedged onto the BMP allowable.

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/doe7ijqeu09ybfwuj14ox/BMP_SP_1.JPG?rlkey=y9hilmz7murvuoxa4d1nux6qv&st=3uk3i1a6&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xo2vgnokq90xsjhvxixa7/BMP_SP_2.JPG?rlkey=cwybsajynnwyjfvg0p9munyt8&st=1xyfiffs&raw=1)
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on March 09, 2025, 10:42:20 AM
A suggestion that may help or not.  Study the various WW2 German self-propelled gun to get a better understanding of how they mounted the weapon sans carriage to the various vehicles so equipped.  Examples such as the Marder Panzer Jäger series (I, II, III) vehicles all shared a similar gun mount on a pedestal which might be what you need to have for your BMP SPG.   
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on March 10, 2025, 02:10:44 AM
@BB; Go For It ! . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on March 10, 2025, 02:16:01 AM
Once again, apologies for my absence, SWMBOs been in hospital for surgery, she's out now, but still needs looking after, and also can't drive for five or six weeks, so ATM I'm Head Looker After, and Driver-in-Chief . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Buzzbomb on March 10, 2025, 04:44:47 AM
Once again, apologies for my absence, SWMBOs been in hospital for surgery, she's out now, but still needs looking after, and also can't drive for five or six weeks, so ATM I'm Head Looker After, and Driver-in-Chief . . .

cheers,
Robin.


You do what you gotta do, most important thing on the list at the moment.
We will just tinker along
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on March 10, 2025, 05:10:05 AM
Take good care of the better half!
We’ll be here.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on March 10, 2025, 05:44:20 AM
Thanks, much appreciated . . .
cheers,Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Robomog on March 10, 2025, 06:29:03 AM
Once again, apologies for my absence, SWMBOs been in hospital for surgery, she's out now, but still needs looking after, and also can't drive for five or six weeks, so ATM I'm Head Looker After, and Driver-in-Chief . . .

cheers,
Robin.

Family has to come First,  even before workbench timev ;)

Wishing her a speedy recovery from the Mog household.

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Dr. YoKai on March 10, 2025, 08:25:37 AM
 I've been in that boat-take care of the Partner, and hopes from here for a speedy recovery. We'll keep making dust and shavings. ;)
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Old Wombat on March 10, 2025, 09:42:56 PM
Wishes for a speedy & complete recovery for Mrs robunus, Robin! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:

But don't forget to look after yourself, too! :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: apophenia on March 11, 2025, 02:58:09 AM
What he said! That "Head Looker After" role is top priority now, Robin. Best wishes.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on March 11, 2025, 05:53:28 AM
Thanks, all . . .She's a survivor, this is just the latest in a long list of various medical issues over the years. Seems we get one thing sorted, then another one appears . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Old Wombat on March 11, 2025, 11:26:05 AM
Thanks, all . . .She's a survivor, this is just the latest in a long list of various medical issues over the years. Seems we get one thing sorted, then another one appears . . .

cheers,
Robin.

Know that feeling! ::)
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Dr. YoKai on March 13, 2025, 07:53:38 AM
Of less import, but a limiter nonetheless, my home computer has crashed, and will need servicing. Updates as I am able-this is from a computer at the library.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: apophenia on March 13, 2025, 08:33:19 AM
Of less import, but a limiter nonetheless, my home computer has crashed, and will need servicing. Updates as I am able-this is from a computer at the library.

Camarad! Been there myself. I was so glad that the public library computers were available. But, let's face, that situation still sucks!
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on April 02, 2025, 02:16:11 AM
Okay . . .
So, today is / was the !st April, which means we have ONE MONTH LEFT in this Group Build . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on April 02, 2025, 04:00:13 AM
How’s the lady of the house doing? Getting back to normal I hope?
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on April 02, 2025, 04:40:21 AM
Thanks . . .Still in some pain and discomfort, from where the drain was, but otherwise much improved. We will be seeing the consultant surgeon in clinic next monday, so we'll know more then.
cheers,Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Kerick on April 02, 2025, 06:47:49 AM
On the path to recovery. Good news!
Keep up the good work.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: robunos on April 14, 2025, 10:34:12 PM
A reminder that there is just TWO WEEKS left, until the end of this Group Build . . .

cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: Kitbash / Frankenstein GB - Chat Thread
Post by: Mig Eater on April 15, 2025, 05:34:11 PM
There is no way I'm going to be able to finish my build in time, I'd probably need another month to finish the masking and painting on my build :-X