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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Scifi and Fantasy => Topic started by: Buzzbomb on November 21, 2024, 06:57:49 PM

Title: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 21, 2024, 06:57:49 PM
I am a big fan of Rodney Matthews Art from the 70's, still having a few of the posters. WIM is having a Polar GB and so, revisiting this picture, plus a street find trashed model gets the juices going
(https://www.enworld.org/media/rodney-matthews-ice-ship-jpg.104114/full)

Previously, I have used Ice Spirit as inspiration, say 20 years back I did this based on the even older Imai Roman Warship.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/8pmyu2qfwhmc0vnfnynh7/icewolf_1.jpg?rlkey=7pfwf06le99mwtndtbfuu3qj9&st=xdolpe0p&raw=1)

So using this "street find" of the hull of a ship kit, of something, I plan to do an updated version of the Ice Rigger
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fk707fhh477hi0kxbo65u/PolarGB-idea_1.JPG?rlkey=s07behj48rkojku35fh1dcdoa&st=hqkenlr5&raw=1)
Found this in a pile of toys on the nature strip, cannot walk past a model, no matter what the condition.

So basically same sort of format (because I like it  ;D ) of a ship hull on ice skates. Lots of thinking to do around scale and layout, but the though bubble is there

A bit further into the build and some 3D design work on the Foc's'le.  I have already cobbled up a proof of concept for the Stern.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/e7c2koeim4fplrkuubt1w/IceRigger_4.JPG?rlkey=xhbo1xr9aifx1xcbf9o1n6pui&st=8efqv2xi&raw=1)

A an hour or two of printing, a test fit to see if the vibe works, and pretty much, this will probably do.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vhal8aq5cs6jnabg0gr1f/IceRigger_5.JPG?rlkey=a84oj3v5kyb9ag4dyjq7hfqjb&st=n5u6w8wp&raw=1)
Also completed a hull bottom piece a lot shallower
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/nif1gti87khhmfq8hl2r1/IceRigger_6.JPG?rlkey=p8btzvh4h2jsjhgb4reonsbqq&st=0nlooyg4&raw=1)

So, I have been working on some Shelf Queens, so finally finished the HMS Astute and a pair of Airborne Jeeps that have been 2-3years in a box.
Back to the Slider. I think we have covered off that capsizing might not be the greatest risk this vessel faces in the icy Polar wastes.

A couple of mods on the Sterncastle adding a some bits to the 3D print, but needed the heavy duty excess stuff removers to aid in getting them to sit flat(er)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/otc3c1ol27g3b60c98wu3/IceRigger_7.JPG?rlkey=q5uvscb9hd4twd8a7k3i2n206&st=q8z8h0hz&raw=1)

Now getting the riggers into a proof of concept mode, that works for me, so some more 3D design work on the supports and some initial gap filling
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/akz6jmwpsswnks8difduj/IceRigger_8.JPG?rlkey=50gx4dy7ypiq5lez2kn8kg85j&st=d3kyznv9&raw=1)
I found cutting a slot and fairing around method to be better than trying to work out the angles and slopes to cut the supports to suit the hull.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 21, 2024, 07:01:33 PM
Getting this thread up to date, so more work, using the 3D printer more on this build, getting lazy  ;D

Stern windows
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j651v8o1t78e2vyj2esud/IceRigger_9.JPG?rlkey=6b2adjwc03ykhzr8ozogulqil&st=jrrroaeo&raw=1)

New Bridge area
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ozuzholisos2ggs03maaj/IceRigger_10.JPG?rlkey=t406nonq47ksp0jgt96riukm5&st=3hxxza6j&raw=1)

Decided that I needed a Dragon Skull as a figurehead, so more 3D scaling and printing. Bit of clean up to go, PLA gets a bet furry, so needs to remove some dags.
And fix a wonky tooth.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/z2f3hzfrbg3pd124s23oh/IceRigger_11.JPG?rlkey=rq4ck5vwg9tow5g3zomshzuol&st=bs35hdoi&raw=1)

Also experimenting with using the 3D printer for railing. So far.. a bit ho hum so more on that.
I can see lots and lots of bits that need to be cleaned up and finessed as well. But not in Hammer of Thor zone yet
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Dr. YoKai on November 22, 2024, 12:12:06 AM
 Lazy, schmazy-I have been trying to motivate myself to learn 3d design for a while, but always wind up watching Drachinifel. I remember "Icerigger", though I don't think I ever read it. (Alan Dean Foster, wasn't it?) And Matthews's work is up there with Roger Dean for tapping my 70s nostalgia. This looks like a wonderful start, and the older build is pretty cool, too.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 22, 2024, 02:34:41 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Ramba on November 22, 2024, 02:38:17 AM
Cool project and great job so far.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: raafif on November 22, 2024, 05:35:29 AM
Wow !  Love this build.  I too have that poster (bought in 1977) which is now rather tatty.  Had ideas to do one of these models myself but I'm not up to the skill that you have so I'll be watching to see where this ends up.  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Old Wombat on November 22, 2024, 02:29:26 PM
Lazy, schmazy-I have been trying to motivate myself to learn 3d design for a while, but always wind up watching Drachinifel.

This is an acceptable distraction, you may continue, Good Sir! :smiley: ;)
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: apophenia on November 23, 2024, 04:54:26 AM
It may be daggy/wonky but I love your Dragon Skull figurehead  :-*

Perfect (and a must-have) for any self-respecting Ice Rigger  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on November 25, 2024, 05:35:52 AM
Turned one of the corners of the build, nearing the end of the hull stage development. This is just about it. Still lots and lots of tidy ups to do.
Sort of settled on a scale as well, I have some N Scale figures.... that will do, so somewhere in the 1/144 - 1/160 zone, depending who's figures you have. That's the figure.. the tiny dude in white near the mainmast.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/otmsqqypn3sdzc95d7sxp/IceRigger_12.JPG?rlkey=z9pm0mwxifvys1ahchgcdo6az&st=1righsnu&raw=1)
Here be Dragons. The teeth need to be replaced as one of the defurring PLA options is a quick run over with a flame, which also, incidentally, melts dragon teeth, which is quite ironic  ;D
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/vxfygs4h0tcjw1zvgr3qx/IceRigger_13.JPG?rlkey=rmr872gpfw38jv0nqhz6utqid&st=irjrw53t&raw=1)

Tried out the 3D printed railing, one of the good things is it bends nicely. For this build, to keep costs down on buying brass, this might be the go. Well at this stage anyway.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j4g4do738xnlznsdzphws/IceRigger_14.JPG?rlkey=b5l79ubwxupnahdnh1n4drgld&st=6pbavx1z&raw=1)

Slight half profile overhead shot of basic layout
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/o4pwtl2imkcpsfc4b1cw4/IceRigger_15.JPG?rlkey=om3nmazaq143mwe2a7hv7bdi9&st=4bs5boun&raw=1)

Started tinkerings with the masts to help with layout options. Moving forward on that when the mojo returns
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Old Wombat on November 25, 2024, 06:51:28 AM
Yep, coming along nicely! :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Robomog on December 08, 2024, 10:44:19 AM
I like this, Popcorn and beer on standby.

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Dr. YoKai on December 09, 2024, 01:32:33 AM
I really like the cabin architecture on the stern, and what ever apparatus the ship's wheel is attached to-this is motivating me to get back to some Science Pirate projects.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Frank3k on December 09, 2024, 03:32:09 AM
The Ice Rigger looks good! The hull looked familiar; I think it's from the ancient 1/350 Gorch Fock/Eagle training ship  (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/cc-lee-01053-eagle--278528) although it looks better in 1/144 or N scale for this build.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on December 09, 2024, 06:39:53 AM
This is looking great! Keep it up.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on December 21, 2024, 01:14:51 PM
... and we are back.  ;)

Got into the masts and yards. Using bamboo skewers for both, easy to work with and shape, so far anyway. At trial fit stage for sizing an layout. Might get more yards with slimmer sails more like the Ice Spirit inspiration image.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gfyprn3pckjc5isnclnbh/IceRigger_16.JPG?rlkey=puhxm8e6s4phrncq6tdzs58ir&st=nzn0s97c&raw=1)

Because it is a fantasy build..a BFG on a rotating table. Sort of makes it a Monitor. Got some swivel guns ex the Airfix Revenge, that may fit out around the vessel as well
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5fm024krf4xnu1drvuw4s/IceRigger_17.JPG?rlkey=5kb3swsjhglly3eaghv6b271n&st=nyrs633o&raw=1)

More detail for the Dragons Skull, bit of maybe flame work.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fkam320j58a1odwfu3kkj/IceRigger_18.JPG?rlkey=v1v90w6p7boj1sun9dm6azvg9&st=kf2yrxg6&raw=1)

Now trying to work out how the Sails might work. Not going this shape, but interesting to experiment on how it might be done using paper. Much more work in this space.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ae3zxwtjz0jjn8io0prgv/IceRigger_19.JPG?rlkey=voeg63f31df6yxv9e8dvn54qe&st=8yad1aey&raw=1)




The Ice Rigger looks good! The hull looked familiar; I think it's from the ancient 1/350 Gorch Fock/Eagle training ship  (https://www.scalemates.com/kits/cc-lee-01053-eagle--278528) although it looks better in 1/144 or N scale for this build.

Nailed it.. that is what it is now I see the source kit.. Well done that man.

Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: finsrin on December 21, 2024, 03:17:55 PM
Gad Zooks did a great job  :o  I like it.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: raafif on December 22, 2024, 07:36:32 AM
 :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: apophenia on December 22, 2024, 09:06:26 AM
:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

Like he said. This. Is. Epic!  :-*
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on December 22, 2024, 01:42:26 PM
Great idea with the paper!
You are on a great road here!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on December 28, 2024, 06:22:58 AM
Bit of minor work on the BFG, this is now a breech loading smoothbore, with semi automated loading mechanism. Yes, yes.. lots of reasons why this will not work. Except in this universe  ;D
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/g2m85d9vs98t4sztgmnnz/IceRigger_20.JPG?rlkey=knq8ivyq7ivqzo4kkqy62a0kr&st=5zgqwgkc&raw=1)

Steps, rails
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/fq02v4bmag7kwaci98ji7/IceRigger_21.JPG?rlkey=l8nmaf5mgzi3mblfb7j5p4620&st=tsgr0bjq&raw=1)

Some more substantial work around the building up the sails. Next will be fitting these off, plus lots and lots of ropes which may or may not actually look like they do what they are supposed to do.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/wqugy1kgumui7dd43h7rt/IceRigger_22.JPG?rlkey=cqe4pq9821yt4nmashoaax1ol&st=5y6vafkx&raw=1)
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on December 28, 2024, 10:27:57 AM
That’s crazy good!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on December 29, 2024, 06:08:38 AM
Thanks Team.. not quite how I saw it in the minds eye.

Short session on the Railing, using the 3D version that is convenient and easy to produce,  over the PE stuff, that I do not have and would need to buy.
Bit chunkier, but I will live with it
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/57ukt97kzci3dhwjl9owv/IceRigger_23.JPG?rlkey=op18vgruy5ojkzvjxvhs2yffu&st=vbm8i80q&raw=1)


Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Frank3k on December 29, 2024, 06:28:37 AM
It's looking good! The sails look great, and the railing is fine - maybe it's thicker because it's heated to keep ice from forming on it and sailors from sticking to it.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: apophenia on December 29, 2024, 09:48:10 AM
... the railing is fine - maybe it's thicker because it's heated to keep ice from forming on it and sailors from sticking to it.

Oooo, I like that backstory  :smiley:  I was thinking that maybe the railings were sized to match Arctic-scale paulueet ... but Franks' explanation is way better  :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on December 29, 2024, 11:18:11 AM
It's looking good! The sails look great, and the railing is fine - maybe it's thicker because it's heated to keep ice from forming on it and sailors from sticking to it.

(https://i.makeagif.com/save/U8t_Rd)
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 14, 2025, 02:18:29 PM
Thanks guys.

So a bit of paint shop work, before tackling the sails and rigging

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/j41w1fuk03snjx5lqv1bg/IceRigger_25.JPG?rlkey=cbzpmdhelq75mkvmpquxyvppl&st=0p6us2sh&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/yn7tamdwqoojjruouf8es/IceRigger_26.JPG?rlkey=eqpo3zsqtuk8fjglv7pqpzkv7&st=fhl5xzf4&raw=1)

There is a bit of painting outside of the lines, that needs some attention, so I see.
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/26byi0o4ldrlxfucc4rt0/IceRigger_27.JPG?rlkey=9bnvghvrdr45u2ih18khfb06i&st=fricepq6&raw=1)
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: finsrin on January 14, 2025, 02:25:53 PM
Charming paint scheme  :-*
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 14, 2025, 08:07:02 PM
BZ BB!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Ramba on January 15, 2025, 12:06:19 AM
The colors look great!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Frank3k on January 15, 2025, 01:20:02 AM
I love all of this - the color, the decks and the details!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 25, 2025, 05:34:43 AM
Final bits in hand, a couple of teasers

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/hzta74s8iaum52r4iseo1/IceRigger_28.JPG?rlkey=i91m5i84p7f8idoh4cj3ho9by&st=8dyc6jfv&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/xwmmxsvibnwa4ai32tanm/IceRigger_29.JPG?rlkey=4ow3w25n1v94zvfqe65wg0foi&st=b68af996&raw=1)
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: raafif on January 25, 2025, 06:59:30 AM
Can't wait for the finished model !! :o
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Old Wombat on January 25, 2025, 11:04:46 PM
Looking like she 'll be good! :smiley:
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Dr. YoKai on January 26, 2025, 03:17:02 AM
The sails (what I can see of them ;) ) look terrific, and the figures are a great touch.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on January 26, 2025, 04:47:37 AM
The paint is really pulling this together! Fantastic!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 26, 2025, 12:33:29 PM
This will do.

So a bit of lets pretend on some stuff

Like, there is a lot more rigging than there is presented and there is some sort of deadeyes, blocks and sheaves. I have a bundle of 1/72 ish deadeyes but at this scale they looked absurd, so better to leave them out.
And yes I know the Ratlines do not go further up, really about getting the impression not faithful reproduction of any sailing vessel.

(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/3ffbd8fp89vtfzk7y7trv/IceRigger_30.JPG?rlkey=atrptgwewwyhnmqo5861gcj8d&st=awxzsbff&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/c8etjqvf53yonuj7g6d2w/IceRigger_31.JPG?rlkey=9y2fwpyxbkr0yvxrosilxjynw&st=lzavgfjl&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/h5736sqarcw3ty1rlgqct/IceRigger_32.JPG?rlkey=02tsw22hqrikewy5rokabaqwg&st=74l3gnf3&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/9sdo58b8swyx723m5e4du/IceRigger_33.JPG?rlkey=bnilm1rejqa6obe9rmpg6xpwa&st=i6622tb4&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/m1u4eddtercg96j6flanr/IceRigger_34.JPG?rlkey=hee25dfmrtrsyg3f88qt163h2&st=kv59te67&raw=1)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/ge212rtp1p5jm5sb71ft1/IceRigger_35.JPG?rlkey=e95pqxbg4n2ysag7nw2jhmxy9&st=glbqp9f7&raw=1)

The BFG is on a turntable and doctrinally should be operated as a broadside to clear sails and rigging. At this scale it is absurdly large calibre so not really feasible anyway.

Next project already on the bench and this is now awaiting the breakers yard  ;) as I have no room in the cabinet.


Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: finsrin on January 26, 2025, 01:35:04 PM
The skis, ship, and oh the sails everything from concept to completion is right  :smiley:  8)  :-*   WOW

Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Frank3k on January 27, 2025, 04:53:18 AM
Absolutely beautiful! The sails and the colors are just great.
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Ramba on January 27, 2025, 05:19:25 AM
Terrific job! Beautiful work!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Robomog on February 03, 2025, 08:53:03 PM
Truly excellent work.  :-* :-* :-* :-*

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Kerick on February 03, 2025, 11:29:17 PM
You should donate that to an art museum or something rather than take it apart!
Title: Re: Ice Rigger
Post by: Dr. YoKai on February 20, 2025, 11:40:33 PM
 A splendid interpretation of the painting-dunno if Matthews is still around, but you should send some pics to his website.
 https://www.rodneymatthewsstudios.com/en-us?srsltid=AfmBOoov2dTBFJ8Z1CoStHuUmuybfjuY8zr9dpphmWPpzdvrUW3BzXgZ (https://www.rodneymatthewsstudios.com/en-us?srsltid=AfmBOoov2dTBFJ8Z1CoStHuUmuybfjuY8zr9dpphmWPpzdvrUW3BzXgZ)

 Wonderful, wonderful work.