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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Land => Topic started by: Marderman on May 22, 2024, 04:27:17 AM

Title: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and family
Post by: Marderman on May 22, 2024, 04:27:17 AM
Hello friends,
To match my Canadian collection, I've taken on my BISON. It's a Canadian APC based on the LAV Piranha. There were various models from ESCI around 1990. And I've also converted a few. I built this one in 1990 as a waterline model. I never really liked it. Years later, I was able to buy an unpainted Piranha at a model show, I wanted to use it for something else. A 5-axle vehicle was still a dream. A few days ago, I had the idea of ​​making 1 out of 2. It wasn't a problem, only half of the tailgate had to be replaced. I'll paint it later. (...write my translater)

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Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: raafif on May 22, 2024, 11:56:46 AM
Five axles sounds good :smiley:  After all, the U.S. did design a 10x10 amphibious APC.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on May 22, 2024, 03:20:00 PM
That ESCI MOWAG Piranha/LAV-25 series of models was always a good subject to study.  So many versions, so many wheel combinations. 
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 23, 2024, 01:52:47 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Gingie on May 23, 2024, 05:39:40 AM
Nice! There's supposed to be a Bison kit (I saw the CAD), but other releases are jumping ahead of it.

10x10 for the win!
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Marderman on May 25, 2024, 02:28:22 AM
I remembered that I had a picture of a BISON kit on my PC. Now I've found it. I didn't take a photo of it myself, I found it and saved it. It was around the beginning of 2008. I don't know which manufacturer it is.

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Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: apophenia on May 25, 2024, 07:47:58 AM
I remembered that I had a picture of a BISON kit on my PC. Now I've found it. I didn't take a photo of it myself, I found it and saved it. It was around the beginning of 2008. I don't know which manufacturer it is.

Interesting. But, yes, the manufacturer is a poser.

At first glance I wondered if it might be the Mouse House ASLAV APC conversion. But the kit in your photo looks like the entire upper hull was moulded in resin. Plus, the Bison add-on armour panels are in place on the nose. Hmm ...
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Gingie on May 30, 2024, 04:05:00 AM
I *think* that was Best Value Models, aka BVM. They did a Canadian M113 TLAV around 2008 as well.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Marderman on May 31, 2024, 02:55:48 PM
Hello,
I took these pictures at the "Intermodellbau, Dortmund, Germany" in 2008. Only the 3-axle vehicles were visible. And on "Scalemates" you can only find references to the 3 3-axle

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And the M 113

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Unfortunately for me, I started collecting too early

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Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Ramba on May 31, 2024, 10:18:27 PM
That Canadian M113A3 TLAV looks really good. I have been wanting to do one myself.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: apophenia on June 01, 2024, 05:15:19 AM
In Didi's Intermodellbau shots, it looks like the Husky is using its Hiab to extricate the driver from the Grizzly.

"Effective Immediately: All Timmies deliveries to boat-drivers are forbidden!"

That Canadian M113A3 TLAV looks really good. I have been wanting to do one myself.

Indeed it does. The Soucy CRT and drive sprocket look especially nice  :smiley:
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 02, 2024, 01:45:55 AM
Looking at those makes me wonder about an articulated 10 x 10 vehicle using a standard 6 x 6 version attached to a 4 x 4 constructed from the rear part.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: apophenia on June 02, 2024, 03:55:50 AM
Looking at those makes me wonder about an articulated 10 x 10 vehicle using a standard 6 x 6 version attached to a 4 x 4 constructed from the rear part.

Or reverse that arrangement for an articulated 10x10? So, the forward 4x4 component houses the vehicle crew and engine/transmission. The rear 6x6 component is effectively empty - for use by dismounts or for armament or honkin' huge radar system, etc.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Gingie on June 04, 2024, 04:09:17 AM
Definitely BVM, they were somehow affiliated with Azimut. I would guess that Trumpeters Grizzly / Cougar / Husky, early and late, probably gave them second thoughts about going on with the Bison.

Incidentally, there will be a kit of the ACSV - big brother to Bison - coming out.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: apophenia on June 04, 2024, 05:30:32 AM
Definitely BVM, they were somehow affiliated with Azimut. I would guess that Trumpeters Grizzly / Cougar / Husky, early and late, probably gave them second thoughts about going on with the Bison...

Good kit-detective work, Graeme  :smiley:

... Incidentally, there will be a kit of the ACSV - big brother to Bison - coming out.

I'm guessing that the first kit offering will be of the ACSV TCV?

For those interested, Armoured Combat Support Vehicle project summary:
- https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/procurement/armoured-combat-support-vehicle.html (https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/procurement/armoured-combat-support-vehicle.html)
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion
Post by: Gingie on June 05, 2024, 12:54:55 AM


I'm guessing that the first kit offering will be of the ACSV TCV?

For those interested, Armoured Combat Support Vehicle project summary:
- https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/procurement/armoured-combat-support-vehicle.html (https://www.canada.ca/en/department-national-defence/services/procurement/armoured-combat-support-vehicle.html)

Yes I believe it is the only one in styrene. The same company will be doing a LAV-6, though I am not sure of the release order.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and his friends
Post by: Marderman on June 06, 2024, 03:53:24 PM
Hello friends. Now it's finished. I didn't build it as high quality as I would today. I customized it in my 90s style.

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Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and family
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 07, 2024, 01:59:05 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and family
Post by: ChalkLine on June 08, 2024, 02:02:06 AM
I do love the Cadillac-Gage 1-Metre Turret. I have the Grizzly here and before I build it I'm going to carefully measure the turret so I can scratch-build more.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and family
Post by: Gingie on June 08, 2024, 02:16:14 AM
^ Careful - the Trumpeter 1m turret got some of the angles upside down. Trackjam models was working on a 3D printed replacement.
Title: Re: BISON APC, Canada, 1:35, conversion and family
Post by: ChalkLine on June 08, 2024, 02:51:18 AM
Cool, I might put it on the backburner.