Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Land => Topic started by: Old Wombat on May 03, 2024, 06:04:27 PM
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Started this yesterday after pulling it out of the box to have a look at today (along with an Airfix M3 Grant tank, a Trumpeter LAV.III & a Trumpeter F9F-3 Panther).
The Mk.II* is a Hobby Boss offering & looks like a good, relatively simple build to re-start messing up the workspace after the Big Clean.
In the Real World; the Australian Army had 4 Mk.II* Specials, purchased in 1929.
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/47/Puckapunyal-Vickers-Medium-MkII-1.jpg) (https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7f/Australian_Vickers_Medium_Mark_II_Tank_%289939651929507636%29.jpg)
Video: https://youtu.be/ouSW8srfD50 (https://youtu.be/ouSW8srfD50)
This will NOT be a Mk.II* Special, but will be one of a greater number of RAM Mk.II* tanks (I'm thinking a "Paper Battalion").
Note: The following is the mental ramblings of a demented Wombat working out the structure of the inter-war Royal Australian Marines Armoured Corps, to be slotted into the over-arching story of the History of the RAMs.
My "Paper Armoured Battalion" will have an "on paper" structure roughly akin to;
5 Companies - Headquarters Coy, A Coy, B Coy, C Coy, D Coy
Bn HQ Coy = No 1 (Battle) Group [2 x tanks, 2 x light tanks, 4 x tracked carriers, 2 x armoured cars], No 2 (Support) Group [8 x Ordnance QF 18-pounder guns (including gun tractors, crews & ammunition tractors), 10 x cargo trucks & 4 x armoured cars] & No 3 (Administration) Group [4 x armoured cars, 2 x tracked carriers, 6 x 4x4 trucks]
A - D Coy = HQ Sect'n, 1st Sect'n, 2nd Sect'n, 3rd Sect'n, 4th Sect'n
HQ Sect'n = 1 x tank, 1 x light tank, 2 x tracked carriers, 1 x armoured car
1st - 4th Sect'n = 4 x tanks
Actual strength ca. 1933;
Bn HQ = No 1 (Battle) Group [2 x tanks, 2 x light tanks, 4 x tracked carriers, 2 x armoured cars], No 2 (Support) Group [8 x Ordnance QF 18-pounder guns (including gun tractors, crews & ammunition tractors), 10 x cargo trucks & 4 x armoured cars] & No 3 (Administration) Group [4 x armoured cars, 2 x tracked carriers, 6 x 4x4 trucks]
A - B Coy = HQ Sect'n, 1st Sect'n, 2nd Sect'n
HQ Sect'n = 1 x tank, 1 x light tank, 2 x tracked carriers/4x4 trucks (depending on availability), 1 x armoured car
1st - 2nd Sect'n = 4 x tanks/light tanks/tracked carriers/armoured cars (depending on availability)
This was acheived with 10 x Vickers Medium Mk.II*s (3 were generally kept off-line for major maintenance at any given time), 6 x Vickers Light tank Mk.IVs (replaced by Mk.VIs from 1937), 6 x modified 2nd-hand Vickers Medium Mk.I tanks cut down & used as cargo/troop carriers, 10 Rolls Royce 1920-Pattern armoured cars & a mix of Marmon-Herrington & Dodge 4x4 trucks (usually around 20 in number).
The PAB will be heavy in officers & NCOs, with a strong focus on command, initiative, coordination, innovation & determination. Thus setting itself up to carefully expand to full battalion strength in early 1937, & its ability to clone itself multiple times over in quick succession after war is declared in September 1939.
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I'm sticking with a standard Mk.II* in an unusual environment (Australia) ... possibly camouflaged in a Solomon scheme variant;
Mother was the first tank to be painted, on June 16. Solomon had a detachment of six men to assist him, but preferred to personally paint the machines. In his 1937 memoir, Basil Henriques, an officer of C Company, recalls him painting "..as if he were covering a canvas for the Royal Academy." A rather indistinct photo of Mother, probably taken in the winter of 1916-17, shows her in this camouflage scheme.
([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_3.jpg[/url])http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_3.jpg ([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_3.jpg[/url])
Mother in camouflage (Coventry Transport Museum)
Solomon’s diary does not describe his camouflage scheme, but Henriques recalls that "The effect was a kind of rather jolly landscape in green against a pink sunset sky." Camouflage covers for the tanks were also painted. The tank crews were instructed to copy his design, which they did "..with great care but little skill." Trevor Pidgeon has noted that a well-known photograph of a Mk.I, usually captioned as going into action at Flers- Courcellette, must have been actually taken at Elveden. If this is the case, it may be the only known photograph of camouflaged Mk.I taken before the tanks were sent to France, and shows a camouflage pattern similar to Solomon's scheme as seen on Mother..
([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_4.jpg[/url])http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_4.jpg ([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_4.jpg[/url])
A Mk.I at Elveden (IWM)
The Tanks in France
Henriques recalls with chagrin that "..no sooner had we disembarked in France than we were immediately ordered to paint over our landscape with a bold pattern of brown, broken by broad black lines." A camouflage expert with the B.E.F. had judged Solomon’s scheme to be unsuitable. In fairness to Solomon, he had made his observations of largely intact landscapes in springtime. No one could have foreseen the appearance of the Somme’s shattered wasteland in late summer. Lt. Head, of D Company, also comments that the tanks were camouflaged at Yvrench. Perry Robinson, a war correspondent for the Times, closely observed the tanks after they had been repainted, on the eve of their first engagement. Writing in 1917, he states that "The brutes were all painted in blotched reptilian colours, hues of rattlesnake and iguana, yellow and dull grey and black and mottled brown, and in the failing light, against the brown-green earth, they were strangely invisible." When comparing the photographs taken in France to that of the Elveden tank, it is evident that Solomon’s irregular, blotched pattern had been largely retained, despite the change of colour scheme. A close examination, however, reveals subtle differences in pattern from this vehicle, and between the tanks of A, C and D Company. This may be the result of each company’s arrival in France at a different time. It must be conceded, however, that a considerable overlap in camouflage style exists within the companies which fought on the Somme, and only a minority of their 85 machines seem to have been photographed. The predominant C Company pattern bears the most resemblance to the Elveden vehicle. The colour blotches are interspersed with broad bands of black , of varying thickness and irregular border. Some of the blotches appear to contain small daubs of a lighter colour, perhaps as a result of hasty over-painting, although this can also be seen on the Elveden tank.
([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_6.jpg[/url])http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_6.jpg ([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_6.jpg[/url])
C.19 (Tank Museum)
D Company seems to have favoured using more uniform black stripes to outline the patches of colour.
([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_7.jpg[/url])http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_7.jpg ([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_7.jpg[/url])
D.17 (AWM)
The Mk.II tank at Bovington, which would not have received an original Solomon paint scheme, was modified and painted to resemble a Mk.I, and was on display in Chertsey the 1940s. This vehicle seems to have been the model for the Airfix kit, and its artwork.
([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_17.jpg[/url])http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_17.jpg ([url]http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/images/Solomon_Camouflage_17.jpg[/url])
The Hatfield Park Mk.I, now at Bovington (Tank Museum)
From: http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/Solomon_Camouflage.html (http://www.landships.info/landships/tank_articles/Solomon_Camouflage.html)
### PLEASE NOTE: There are http:// links in the above text which either won't display (photo's) or won't connect from the page (link). I don't know why, it works on What If Modelers ###
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All the images appear to work for me
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All the images appear to work for me
Same for me.
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All http: images & links stopped working for me on this site some time ago.
I'm assuming that I clicked something unintentionally, somewhere along the line, but I can't figure out what so I can un-click it! :-\
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Be a speco paint job.
Did it on a Takom Mk1 build, it takes some time, but looks really good.
on the link business. You might find some browsers baulk at http because it is considered insecure (needs to be https) and perhaps the browser settings may inhibit access.
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I just wish I could work out what I need to click/change to get this site to open images from http: sites, like WiM & others do. :-\
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Progress has progressed, but slowly, & I'm currently stalled waiting for a spare moment to prime most of the sub-assemblies I've built, & various loose parts, & colour some bits before I can continue construction.
I may take some photo's, if I get time, if it's not long enough to do the painting.
:smiley:
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Colour me excited! :smiley:
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I have been working on this, just not in any significant amount (RWS getting in the way) or to any great effect (indecision & AMS slowing me down).
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It happens… :(
(https://i.imgur.com/yFJGRFG.jpg)
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First actual images of the build:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-Gp7bp8g/0/DpwxT28cXfmpx4cxGjQRjx2gXzbwT4vN569XbzGhR/X3/DSCN8594-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-bFnJFPC/0/FRh7cKmhqKQ9ZjpX3s8RQCtTgKKZgmjpqF624WhTj/X3/DSCN8591-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-tTcBWsQ/0/FJ96mmmpWnLSPMsktZKmps6vQkG5dxJDQL7QGGrFk/X3/DSCN8590-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-dbT7jCJ/0/CRZxst7x8SPGNJhxDjjf3KMxbS428cksPpwP32kQx/X3/DSCN8593-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-ptnpbfm/0/HbRLDfTwB8MHMXvD9D5WVdh9V4ZgMtLGRXPhrhfZ/X3/DSCN8592-X3.jpg)
My apologies for that last photo, it seems the camera thought the instructions & paint brushes in the background were more important than the foreground object. :rolleyes:
The green paint is SMS Premium "Dark Green G4 - British WWII AFV". It's covering the undersides of the tank, the gap between the armour over the suspension units & the track guards, & the undersides of the track guards - I've also used it inside any open spaces, like air-filter boxes, etc., with what was left in the airbrush going down as a bit of pre-shading.
I'll be moving on to the return rollers & indy-link tracks (non-functional) next, while I further contemplate how I'm going to paint the camouflage.
Thanks for looking! :smiley:
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Looking good
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Indeed :smiley: Watching with interest, Guy!
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Looking good and a fine set of paint brushes too! :smiley: ;) :smiley:
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Thanks, gents! :icon_alabanza:
The return rollers are built (still need painting) & I'm working on the tracks at a steady, careful pace.
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It looks good so far. The Mk II is a bit obscure but pretty important in terms of early AFV development.
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All in all, this build has got me interested in this kit.
Bring on the next paint bit :smiley:
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Thanks, blokes! :icon_alabanza:
BT, the kit is quite good & goes together without any issues. Very simple, really, & allows for a pre-war & early-war version. My biggest gripe is that it screams out for a full interior; there are lots of big hatches that could easily be mounted in the open position but there's nothing inside except the hull mounted Vickers guns. Having seen the interior in a video walk-around, there ain't much in there, so it's not like it would have been difficult or much more expensive to do. Yes, scratch building the interior is an option but getting to Pucka to get photo's of all the interior is a bit problematic at the moment.
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Thanks, blokes! :icon_alabanza:
BT, the kit is quite good & goes together without any issues. Very simple, really, & allows for a pre-war & early-war version. My biggest gripe is that it screams out for a full interior; there are lots of big hatches that could easily be mounted in the open position but there's nothing inside except the hull mounted Vickers guns. Having seen the interior in a video walk-around, there ain't much in there, so it's not like it would have been difficult or much more expensive to do. Yes, scratch building the interior is an option but getting to Pucka to get photo's of all the interior is a bit problematic at the moment.
You mean like this ;)
(https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/bi66akdmu1g9qua2n4g00/Vickers-interior.JPG?rlkey=rb5kuy6jmjcfgsq749rprjkdp&st=4u2c7win&raw=1)
Russel at IMACO.. might be able to help you out... next time
http://www.imaco.com.hk/cgi-bin/prod.pl/id/IMA10935 (http://www.imaco.com.hk/cgi-bin/prod.pl/id/IMA10935)
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Exactly like that! :smiley:
Although that does increase the cost by about 50%. :icon_crap:
Still, it's now tempting to buy another & order that AM kit. ;)
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Half the track links done! :smiley:
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The Vickers is looking good. I want to make one as an early APC. The interior kit looks interesting. Panzerserra Bunker built a Mk.II* for a client. (https://panzerserra.blogspot.com/search/label/Vickers%20Medium%20Mark%20II**%20%28stars%29%20tank)
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The Vickers is looking good. I want to make one as an early APC. The interior kit looks interesting. Panzerserra Bunker built a Mk.II* for a client. (https://panzerserra.blogspot.com/search/label/Vickers%20Medium%20Mark%20II**%20%28stars%29%20tank)
... and then the spare turret becomes a 1940 bunker on the Libyan border or one of those training turrets in Egypt?
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Or on the back of a quad gun tractor.
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The tropical version with *asbestos* outside lining has different look.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi4x35Yi6Bc0UU3BbwUIFO1eYX2FNc8h7WnIS9LikWpC34Gmx9ubBLVYc9ko89mvH2Auwcy9KQQlx1P0iwftGehaeieGYLSTkOl2rB0jXWdDxZ9y5SzM_jGjw8O6UGk5cwyzcvxCOZt8Wi5J_nzSWjzFWDKU80MXU25mY9wvVbOzkVtwK5Jux_12_fzww/w640-h334/Vickers%20Medium%20MkII(2%20stars)%20with%20asbestos.jpg)
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Die from German or Italian weapons, die from the heat or die a few years later from Asbestosis. But at least the tank interior was slightly cooler.
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The Vickers is looking good. I want to make one as an early APC. The interior kit looks interesting. Panzerserra Bunker built a Mk.II* for a client. (https://panzerserra.blogspot.com/search/label/Vickers%20Medium%20Mark%20II**%20%28stars%29%20tank)
Ohhh.. I so like that idea of the APC... great thinking
Keep going Guy, as I said, you have piqued my interest in this kit
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Thanks, guys! :icon_alabanza:
No stopping here, BT!
(Maybe a short pause from time to time - like tonight - but no stopping. ;) )
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The tropical version with *asbestos* outside lining has different look.
(https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi4x35Yi6Bc0UU3BbwUIFO1eYX2FNc8h7WnIS9LikWpC34Gmx9ubBLVYc9ko89mvH2Auwcy9KQQlx1P0iwftGehaeieGYLSTkOl2rB0jXWdDxZ9y5SzM_jGjw8O6UGk5cwyzcvxCOZt8Wi5J_nzSWjzFWDKU80MXU25mY9wvVbOzkVtwK5Jux_12_fzww/w640-h334/Vickers%20Medium%20MkII(2%20stars)%20with%20asbestos.jpg)
:o
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Track links are all constructed & off the sprues.
In the process of masking up for paint sessions, which will hopefully occur over the next few days.
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Track links are all constructed & off the sprues.
In the process of masking up for paint sessions, which will hopefully occur over the next few days.
:smiley:
On, on!! >:(
Looking forward to seeing this one completed. :smiley:
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On, on!! >:(
Yeth, Marthter! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
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Three colours down on the hull, two more to go.
Track guards & splash-guard(?) will be done separately, so that masking is a bit easier.
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Four colours! ;)
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So, after all the painting-masking-painting-etc., the colour scheme is done.
It requires some touch-ups & I'm not completely happy with it, but happier with how it turned out than I expected to be a couple of days ago, so I'll keep it.
I'll just use Kit's 2nd Law (Anything can be explained in the backstory) & I'll state that it's an experimental scheme which wasn't adopted due to the excessive requirements for paint colours & time required to apply it.
Anyway, photo's, so you can judge for yourselves:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-L2b9zKK/0/M4pHr8LNqVmm6zfGQ4NMg5sVVQZGsJ8X535MTgWtX/X3/DSCN8596-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-5KHrg2q/0/MjWDRgTJ2Fzr3KnZ5vR63VfVPnbb6dDKTXKDpzMjR/X3/DSCN8597-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-hqDmZ5C/0/LgHgXdXhMHJsxJs64Wg7kBtwTgnC7QZ4MHcgPCdF7/X3/DSCN8595-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-VSq6r3X/0/LS73vBq6fj35vKfscsnrt235PQXsgJCR7Gxfnr4w6/X3/DSCN8600-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-WpXQnwm/0/LX48gWZfVMNLFrjRgbZ94z7zJg94c2mVkJtCKH3fP/X3/DSCN8598-X3.jpg)
Hope that satisfies the curiousity. ;)
Now, it's on to the track guards & splash board before going over the errors & fixing them up.
But that's a task for another day, possibly even not until next week. We'll see what path Life takes me down.
PS: Do I outline the colours in black, or not?? ? ?? ???
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Striking camo pattern. It reminds me of some of the Japanese tank patterns.
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Sweet! 8) :smiley:
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I really like that. :-*
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Very interesting and different approach to the camouflage scheme on that Vickers. Erratic and Chaotic just like it should be! :smiley:
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Look right on this tank for the era. Being hard edge sells even more.
Well done :smiley: :smiley:
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Thank you all, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
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Started getting this ready for the next few shots of paint this evening ..... After checking it over thoroughly for possible damage.
My eldest daughter & both grandsons were over from Port Lincoln last week (first time seeing the newest addition), which was nice. ;D
However, about mid-week, the eldest grandson (approx. 2yrs 8mths of age) discovered my modelling room - which he was promptly told not to enter without Grandpa being there. Being a typical 2 year old, he decided that this did not apply to him if I wasn't watching. The following day I went into the modelling room to get something for something (I can't remember what) & saw the Mk.II spread across the floor in pieces.
After roaring out "WILFRED, COME HERE!", I took a few breaths & calmed down (a bit). Wilf didn't "come here", he apparently hid behind his mother on the lounge, but she brought him to my modelling room & he was admonished (possibly) appropriately, whilst I picked up the bits & gave them a cursory once-over.
Anyway, I didn't look at it again until today & confirmed that nothing was actually broken, it had just come apart into the pieces that had been dry-fitted together so I could see how it looked.
Now there are various bits awaiting various colours, & a couple of bits that need the camouflage process applied to them.
Hopefully I'll get started on that tomorrow.
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After roaring out "WILFRED, COME HERE!", I took a few breaths & calmed down (a bit). Wilf didn't "come here", he apparently hid behind his mother on the lounge, but she brought him to my modelling room & he was admonished (possibly) appropriately, whilst I picked up the bits & gave them a cursory once-over.
Is spanking still a parental tool?
Also, locked doors are a wonderful thing.
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Is spanking still a parental tool?
Also, locked doors are a wonderful thing.
Definitely a parenting tool I used but not one my daughter is (or, maybe, "was"?, as I did hear her threaten him with a smack) willing to adopt.
My modelling room is a former bedroom & doesn't have any locks on it, & I'm not keen to add any unless I really have to.
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... My modelling room is a former bedroom & doesn't have any locks on it, & I'm not keen to add any unless I really have to.
Having just had a wee bit of a fright, Wilf may have learned his lesson. Or, ... :o
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... My modelling room is a former bedroom & doesn't have any locks on it, & I'm not keen to add any unless I really have to.
Having just had a wee bit of a fright, Wilf may have learned his lesson. Or, ... :o
If necessary I do have an external door set, which is key/button locked, that I can fit to the door with minimal (if any) alterations.
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Started getting this ready for the next few shots of paint this evening ..... After checking it over thoroughly for possible damage.
My eldest daughter & both grandsons were over from Port Lincoln last week (first time seeing the newest addition), which was nice. ;D
However, about mid-week, the eldest grandson (approx. 2yrs 8mths of age) discovered my modelling room - which he was promptly told not to enter without Grandpa being there. Being a typical 2 year old, he decided that this did not apply to him if I wasn't watching. The following day I went into the modelling room to get something for something (I can't remember what) & saw the Mk.II spread across the floor in pieces.
After roaring out "WILFRED, COME HERE!", I took a few breaths & calmed down (a bit). Wilf didn't "come here", he apparently hid behind his mother on the lounge, but she brought him to my modelling room & he was admonished (possibly) appropriately, whilst I picked up the bits & gave them a cursory once-over.
Anyway, I didn't look at it again until today & confirmed that nothing was actually broken, it had just come apart into the pieces that had been dry-fitted together so I could see how it looked.
Now there are various bits awaiting various colours, & a couple of bits that need the camouflage process applied to them.
Hopefully I'll get started on that tomorrow.
(https://i.imgur.com/DSBiPht.jpg)
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^^^
;D
At least it survived! ;)
Some painting happened last night & I hope to do some more tonight. :smiley:
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Another bunch of parts painted & some bits glued on = Progress, which is nice. ;)
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(https://i.imgur.com/Jb1Bqwg.jpg)
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Couple more camo colours on the track guards & front "splash" guard, plus a couple of fix-ups of the hull paint job = more (if slow) progress! :smiley:
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I am sure there is something about slow and steady winning the race....
But dammit, getting twitchy waiting to see how this is coming out... keep going :smiley: :smiley:
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One colour left, would have been done except I stuffed up on the second-last colour (British Light Stone) & had to patch up a couple of bits, which are still drying.
Should get it done tomorrow & get the masking off (& see what needs re-touching there, too).
Hopefully, I'll be able to post a test fit photo or two tomorrow night.
After that; decals, gloss coat, washes, matt coat, weathering, & the tracks! :o
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(https://i.imgur.com/xfe4stF.gif)
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;D
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(https://media.tenor.com/SgQwBHMdCnMAAAAM/jon-cryer-moi.gif)
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So, someone mentioned photo's? ???
Well, here they are! No touch-ups or PhotoShopping, just as it came when the masking was removed (Please excuse the crappy photography);
(Click for larger images)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-HvwqkZL/0/K4bSDZQC2JR7qhHQmkF78HcMtRsLBjf336DndLCbZ/X4/DSCN8603-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-HMnSffW/0/MmVpR4DNCkt4h244qd7srsqnrPhd9M9ZJPwBKHVwC/X4/DSCN8604-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-82nbFJn/0/MRQJ9KnZGqFCpFn927c8FfS5HzdWCjKv74qHfM2dP/X4/DSCN8605-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-KZ9Zf3C/0/Kbsp7ShkDx6nQxPNHdgVZZLZFgvX8qTv5ncdCk7rX/X4/DSCN8606-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-XH848hn/0/M3VmsJNWznXvb8GsT9BSLjtQXfdZwFcgZqq4hwsdv/X4/DSCN8607-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-2zwJHRk/0/MDZn3dCZdH82vPcFCZxvFDcqCbQVpMsP9GsNzV4S5/X4/DSCN8608-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-9ggjnb8/0/KGxFGC5dvvzP8ngLHjP3KwqCP57qrkWsKtjgGhk3K/X4/DSCN8609-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-Rfh47th/0/LhQp6t86gvb5MSWfsGQ5gmS84qxBZfZKN4KSZdPnj/X4/DSCN8610-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-NkXN6RF/0/L69cXWqtwtGLWPwfdq7fKfDTKMCg7dbgx5WHZP5QW/X4/DSCN8613-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-xPR7VFT/0/NDV8KvwQVsrMxqZ2KvjbRkQsWc7DMPpJFH9GM2QXd/X4/DSCN8611-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-xtRWgjH/0/MGnxb53jH5NvL5zVZtPMGZnLBh92ghgzVw2h8HkVr/X4/DSCN8612-X4.jpg)
Painted bits waiting to be fitted (tracks excluded).
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-DXJpWX3/0/LdsFJjNJwXC8CWSFQCWN4GRFXscDkbvWVHBhKssHv/X4/DSCN8602-X4.jpg)
The headlights were one of those AMS moments, as they were originally just solid plastic but I drilled them out & put clear plastic lenses in (& still need some touch-ups around the lenses).
The Vickers guns next to them are little works of styrene art!
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Looking great and two sets of photos for the price of one! :smiley:
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Thanks, mate! :smiley:
..... and two sets of photos for the price of one! :smiley:
Oops! Fixed. :-[
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Oh yes.. that is a nice scheme.
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Coming along nicely! I am linking that camo scheme.
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Thanks, gent's! :smiley: :smiley:
I like it, but I'm still tossing up whether to outline the colours in dark grey. It has been suggested that I should, however, the more I look at it the less convinced I become for this pattern. For the more usual pattern I intend using on my 1920 Pattern Rolls-Royce armoured car, yes, on this, I don't think so (even if it would make hiding the paint bleeds easier).
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... I like it, but I'm still tossing up whether to outline the colours in dark grey...
I'm not saying that you should outline the colours ... but you should totally outline the colours! </vote>
It would look awesome. However, as you've said, outlining isn't really necessary on this scheme.
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I like the camo pattern as is. How would you outline it? By hand?
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If I was to outline it, it would be done by hand.
However, having been able to fix the bleed & over-spray spots quite easily, I've decided not to outline on this scheme. In my mind it just looks wrong.
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Did the touch-ups around he headlight lenses tonight, finished putting on the return rollers (they're actually adjustable, at the moment, which will help with fitting the tracks later), painted a piece that I missed earlier (luckily it was the same colour (brown) as the headlights) & started painting the exhaust.
Tomorrow, I'll probably finish painting the exhaust & will start putting the track links together (they're indy links but not "workable", which will make life a bit easier) into various lengths before painting them.
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Tracks made into lengths (2 per side) & painted black. Waiting for them to dry, so any further work will have to wait for the morning.
Decals/Transfers will be next, though. There aren't many to do, as I'm following the British pattern to some extent (2 x vehicle numbers & 2 x registration numbers) but, again, a job for the morning.
After that a gloss coat & a start on the weathering.
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:smiley: :smiley: :smiley:
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.. the light.. the light at the end of the tunnel.. well done Guy, this build is really hitting the mark
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.. the light.. the light at the end of the tunnel..
Let's hope it's not a freight train! ;)
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Did some weathering today & added some mud ... possibly a bit too much, but I can live with it.
Leaving the washes to dry for a few days (primarily because I'm back at work on day shifts for the next few days & I never feel like modelling after having to get up early), then I'll put a matt coat over it & take to it with various weathering powders.
After that I'll see if I think anything else needs doing.
I, also, need to purchase a TC & a driver for the Mk.II*, & commander for my RR armoured car (with rimless helmets, not berets, the RAMs were smarter than that).
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A bit more weathering done yesterday & sealed. More needs to be done. :smiley:
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Exciting stuff!!
Although, I might just bally well burst if I don’t get to see some pics soon!
(https://i.imgur.com/jE6RA3R.jpg)
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I've done it again - OD'ed on the weathering. :(
And I lost a headlight! :icon_crap:
Oh, well, life goes on. ::)
Just a bit of work on the tracks, then she should start coming together for final assembly ... We'll see what I can stuff up there. ???
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And I lost a headlight! :icon_crap:
Escaped from the small parts container ?
It will be worth it once you can start dusting your hands off and cleaning the bench for the next project
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And I lost a headlight! :icon_crap:
Escaped from the small parts container ?
It will be worth it once you can start dusting your hands off and cleaning the bench for the next project
No, it escaped from the model, when I was trying to remove some of the excess weathering powder.
I heard it bounce a couple of times & thought I had an idea of where it went but after 2 hours searching ... Nope. Nothing! :-\
I've just gone with the missing headlight & a few spots of metallic grey paint. ;)
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Coming to the end of the build! :D
Starboard tracks are on but they've given me a bit of grief. ::)
Anyway, throwing together some figures while I wait for glue to dry, then I'll have a go at the port side tracks. :smiley:
Then I'll have to re-attach all the little bits that have been knocked of in the struggle with the tracks. :-\
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Stay the course and may the force be with you! :icon_jedi: :smiley:
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Starboard tracks are on but they've given me a bit of grief. ::)
if they are anything like the Bronco individual link set for the Matilda... I hear you, loud and clear.
It will be worth it at that push the chair back time.
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And here we are, at the end of the main build! Still working on figures, though.
So, being the nice chap I am, here are some photo's for your perusal*:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-Gk3jsmh/0/NHXVBGtB7RgmgTZqTRbL8jcxQ9zpQ9S7RLFscbSW3/X4/DSCN8627-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-8rHswFV/0/MnQssGcJN5TSFp5kxHMrmWvBzBGnxNJ3pNLbxq5QR/X4/DSCN8626-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-Sw7qCkL/0/K6Vqv73qggPQvmF2sNWHVJJGKmCkJZvTRSvjVgWKW/X4/DSCN8629-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-vrprCLk/0/L4MPFFZMjP7NQHGtCp5ZZngVhTSJzLT8j4mCg7JkV/X4/DSCN8628-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-SQ77XwL/0/MNvKkQmmpHgDncQ4ksTLxWr3R2dx7qkn4gtGd4qs6/X4/DSCN8625-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-TFPNnHC/0/Kbnkc7DJNQgsRXhJ6NP8M76jrBtd4Z7WQ9wXm3R2z/X4/DSCN8623-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-J9rTMjM/0/M4WVGBBPCSCvn5gzMG3r6VLsZfbQbGXNRcX6TDZNj/X4/DSCN8624-X4.jpg)
With two of the crew (driver & TC/Coy CO), commander of my next build (RR Armoured Car - Meng), & a Staff Officer#:
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-v2VzsqR/0/LjCZ68dSrDZL4SKBDmBDWWPkrJXNVTxxzPbHNrqmG/X4/DSCN8616-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-kNMbqv5/0/L4xqdWGTxG7nSHj5CZ8LVcLtKfP8nfxGhs27rv5jd/X4/DSCN8617-X4.jpg)
Thanks for following along! :smiley:
[*: I think the photo's make her look better than when viewed directly but I haven't taken her out into natural sunlight, yet, so I could be biased by the lighting in the modelling room.]
[#: Either the GOC (Brigadier) RAM Armoured Corps or the GOC (Lt. General) RAMs. I'm leaning towards the latter, because in my History the GOC RAMs has a much more "hands-on" approach than most.]
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Yep... got there. All the excellent paintwork under the mud ;D
I like the choice of figures as well :thumbsup:
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Thanks, BT! :smiley:
Like I said, I went a bit overboard with the weathering. ... Again! ::)
The figures are a mash-up of the MiniArt British Armoured Car Crew [Special Edition] (35387) & British Tank Crew [Special Edition] (35332) sets with helmets & accessories from the extra bits that come with those "Special Edition"s.
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Wow, great work and I like the finish!
Many years ago I managed to throw a track while driving a CVR(T) Spartan on an MBT driver training course - really should not have been there but the instructor said it would be OK! Anywho, with the track firmly wedged underneath the hull, we slid down a slope onto a very large and extremely muddy pool. By the time we had extricated ourselves and the wrecker towed us home, there was so much mud everywhere that it was almost impossible to identify our ride as a Spartan let alone what colour scheme it was underneath - we weren’t exactly pristine either! ;)
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... there was so much mud everywhere that it was almost impossible to identify our ride as a Spartan let alone what colour scheme it was underneath - we weren’t exactly pristine either! ;)
Great story! :smiley:
... I went a bit overboard with the weathering. ... Again! ...
So, yeah, Guy ... no such thing as over-weathered armour ;D
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Thanks, Andrew & Stephen! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
But I still think I went overboard, certainly for the look I was trying for (I really need to learn when to STOP!).
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I think it looks good. What environment was this tank going to be active in? You could break up the weathering by making the lower half dusty/muddier.... or just leave it as is.
The figures should look good, too!
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Thanks, Frank! :icon_alabanza:
I wish my weathering worked that way, there is actually only about a third as much weathering on the upper & front hull areas as there is below the track guards, & only about half as much as there is on the rear.
The red weathering powders seem to have gripped much better that the others &, when varnished, have come out stronger, while the others faded to almost nothing ... It's annoying. ::)
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Make it an exercise in the Pilbara region.
That iron ore dust from up there really sticks. I still have a red hue in a bag I had in the army after K83 way back in 1983 from up there.
Washing the bag was a bad idea.. it just set the dust.
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Make it an exercise in the Pilbara region.
That iron ore dust from up there really sticks. I still have a red hue in a bag I had in the army after K83 way back in 1983 from up there.
Washing the bag was a bad idea.. it just set the dust.
The 'Vietnam dirt' paints really capture that well.
I have a very comprehensive vignette I want to do there set in the 1920s, some nutter drove a Guy Roadless half track across the area. I'm slowly gathering material for it but on the whole it'll be either entirety scratch-built or printed. I'm going to do it in the spinifex gullies. So it's that orange rock and spikey bastard plants gummed under the vehicle.
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MIG's "Vietnam Earth" & SMS' "Red Earth" were the two red pigments I used, & both of them tend to be really grippy.
I'm working on the four figures, at the moment.
I'll pop up some photo's when I've finished them & put the two Mk.II crewmen in their positions.
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Remember these guys? ???
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-v2VzsqR/0/KDhTwNdXJHWz44RFmfLjHLMRZkNfPrkfLbZVwDwpM/X2/DSCN8616-X2.jpg)
Well, now they look like this: :D
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-pdHMWjs/0/LXLJnjdBhqjP6sVhjTPB4DxXHw2bTrGtvFPT9jF9v/X3/DSCN8631-X3.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-frT5Vhv/0/MgLfcH7hZPzrBkXJPzmpnPbF846vTpgxdFqNqL8fX/X3/DSCN8633-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-DzMWgJg/0/M9QHQgRsLRSntgvwC8tp79kn75jxqL4Cp7S7gCNFs/X3/DSCN8634-X3.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-7kM6B4C/0/KgXHsdnk8TVBKwxfF8d6kBnbgtpSJvh2V6cDWdk5G/X3/DSCN8635-X3.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-nsrdcQs/0/K66KBGSPs3p42fZkGGRRHzfC65VjjQs5nrJL2F3WT/X4/DSCN8637-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-d5zbr7x/0/LwH5ZNVVWKwHPdqdhgVwP5g24FZqqgN9hfmG3kvWH/X4/DSCN8638-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-qtK33hj/1/MHNmxR27hJxJ5xZ8p4FHS2jdJKn3Nhj7ZX23qcqrx/X4/DSCN8640-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-vjFMknb/0/M76jVMsJNV5fGRWgD7KPG3J4m88MTj6TtnTznSPmz/X4/DSCN8641-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-BqFSSNt/0/Kqt9B7gMPCPMXFgLHZWScCvBQDbHPJ97B8Wfcb96N/X4/DSCN8644-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-67ct7hh/0/LddPGLwkLjSrLLsPZXz7FvFHXGf7K6S3CKSg2DLHK/X4/DSCN8645-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-rVXwLLh/0/McQg55kwMK8D3vwnXwgwSBj74FwzPmtC7ffWTFBNp/X4/DSCN8646-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-FJzXRWh/0/L4spW7q9WVzDJ27BPZP3xrdPWNx2LPVnCnpSv9mWS/X4/DSCN8647-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-MDVRGdj/0/MckXFR6zmLmp9W6cD8B7brCjCtpdcsB9TpsQkNgVb/X4/DSCN8651-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-prWb3K9/0/NPVrPNhTDZXSZPcQ46G6Dhqz3jXZWbZMZCHDvn3rM/X4/DSCN8652-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-NPkGT5k/0/MGJcTB628QcDZkFRPbPMJzmsrqKFXMGd3t3hsfJmF/X4/DSCN8653-X4.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-Jt5Mv7K/0/Mk7D3HkTg7JwKKWkXSnmCvSvf3FpqN6JmmsMtfwPb/X4/DSCN8654-X4.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-BNX6vtD/0/LSQDBxXWgKJhJV3QrfbWgn83JWfSww2rNpKv3fBFq/X3/DSCN8657-X3.jpg) (https://photos.smugmug.com/Vickers-MkII/i-4nj4gxM/0/LdZ4BzdsBLh7mcfBvpdPSmLNKR7gkCLjFbMr62XVd/X3/DSCN8655-X3.jpg)
Now, which smarty-pants' can tell me their ranks? ;)
Pictures aren't perfect, but, then, nor are the figures.
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Nice work on all of the figures. :smiley:
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What? Nobody pointing off to the horizon?
This looks excellent to me! Much better than I could do.
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Remember these guys? ???
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Now, which smarty-pants' can tell me their ranks? ;)
Pictures aren't perfect, but, then, nor are the figures.
Very nice job for the figures. I think you have a great technique. They are not going head to head with figure figures, if you get what I mean. Perfect for setting off a vehicle.
Oh, my take, you have a Major and a Brigadier. Red Staff band indicates staff level officer and the crown and three pips gives you a Brigadier. Coming from a guy who was the Brigadiers Operator at one stage of the Army career.
Getting the red in the crown is spectacular work.
I would hazard that the garnish on the cap brim is the Navy crossover for Marines.
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Thank you very much, gentlemen! :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza: :icon_alabanza:
Spot-on for the officers, BT! :smiley:
Now, what about the other two? (They are a bit harder to see.) ;)
I've figured out some techniques which don't really work & some that do, combined with other techniques I've tried over the years I think I'm getting a better handle on how to improve my figure painting.
I may even try to do one over the next couple of weeks to enter into the Expo at the end of the month ... We'll see. :))
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What? Nobody pointing off to the horizon?
They're Australians, not Germans!
Great work on the figures, Guy! I would try painting the driver's mustache.
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What? Nobody pointing off to the horizon?
They're Australians, not Germans!
Great work on the figures, Guy! I would try painting the driver's mustache.
Precisely! The horizon's too far away in Australia to bother pointing at it. ;)
I did paint the driver's moustache, Frank. It actually shows up better on the figure than the photo's would indicate.
And I found a brilliant technique for the goggles that has them reflective from some angles but able to see the base colour (that of the helmets) from others. :D
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Will you have the Vickers pushing a tree over?
Of course all official images of an Australian tank in testing have to at least one image of the vehicle pushing a tree over. This is an iron law that I suspect may be in the constitution. For some reason you see them from Matildas to Centurions and every vehicle in between (even Sheridans!) pushing some poor tree over. No wonder the koalas are dying out, it's the bloody ADF.
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No, I don't think so, I'd rather leave the perenties something to run up to get away from the wombats. ;)