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Modelling => Completed GBs => Group and Themed Builds => Floaty GB => Topic started by: dy031101 on February 21, 2017, 07:36:50 AM

Title: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: dy031101 on February 21, 2017, 07:36:50 AM
Life is wonderful.

I am being sarcastic with that previous sentence.

Anyhoo, now that my life has once again attained some sort of temporary stability, I need a morale booster.  Something, in addition to finishing that existing project, that can help me deal with the embarrassment of failing to meet deadlines twice for the previous GB.

Recall my fascination with what the Russians did with the carrier-cruiser idea (or what we thought the Russians did with it (http://www.shipbucket.com/images.php?dir=Never%20Built%20Designs/Russia/CV%20Kreml.gif)).

I'm gonna declare it once again my victim.

As for how I'm going to butcher it......

For one, after having encountered some newer Shipbucket illustrations of other Soviet aircraft-carrying cruisers, I think I can bring it a bit closer to the standard of those newer drawings.

Also, I found a fan-art of a F-14 Tomcat modified with the seating arrangement of the Sea Vixen over the internet as well.  And as the attachment suggests, the Sylver VLS family is actually shorter than the launcher for the S-300F; I don't know the exact dimensions of the VLS for the P-700 Granit, but considering the Granit missile is longer (10m v.s. 7~7.5m), I'd think it safer to assume that its VLS cell is deeper than the one used by the S-300F as well...... yup, I think Sylver A70 can go in their places......

Pretty sure I can do something with that information, too.  'can't think of a backstory justification for it yet, but what the hell.

To be continued......
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: Volkodav on February 21, 2017, 07:31:08 PM
A Tomcat with a Seavixen cockpit arrangement, interesting whiff and the opposite of my aspiration, a Seavixen with a Tomcat cockpit arrangement?
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 22, 2017, 01:07:30 PM
You were saying...

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/SVT.jpg)
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: dy031101 on February 24, 2017, 11:47:13 AM
Let's see......

Updated (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7046.msg123258#msg123258)

The integrated mast houses a RAN-40L volume search radar within and a Sampson multi-function radar at the top.

I feel that the S1850M is too big to be put into that mast, and any future ABM capability of the PAAM lies with the multi-function radar anyway.

I realized that the main mast is really tall; some height could be shaved off, I suppose, if I only use the Sampson radar, but I am rather uncomfortable with using only one search radar set on a cruiser or carrier......

Not well-endowed with anti-submarine weapons (only a Bofors mortar at the bow), but then again, she does carry Rotodyne ASW......

Comments and suggestions welcomed.
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: Tophe on March 04, 2017, 02:30:01 AM
Thanks GTX for this wonderful drawing :-* :-*
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: dy031101 on March 20, 2017, 07:57:03 AM
Updated (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=7046.msg124011#msg124011)
Title: Re: Another "Proto-Kreml" Derivative
Post by: dy031101 on April 05, 2017, 02:12:41 PM
What I am doing with the extension:

(https://www.dropbox.com/s/bbby1f7qpqrbjaf/CSG_Kreml.png?raw=1)

Can I get a second opinion on the deck marking......?

Thanks in advance.