Author Topic: Westland Lysander Ideas and Inspiration (Read 11454 times)

GTX_Admin · « **on:** February 01, 2014, 04:28:26 AM »

A thread dedicated to your Westland Lysander Ideas and Inspiration.

Weaver · « **Reply #1 on:** February 01, 2014, 04:38:13 AM »

On What If modellers some years ago, there was a Spat-My-Ride GB in honour of you-know-who. Someone then suggested an Unspat-My-Ride GB as a reposte to it...

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I had the idea of taking a Lizzie and unspatting it by using a P-40. The P-40's engine would go on the Lizzie, as well as enough of its centre-wing section to include the retractable undercarriage. Two Lizzie drop tanks would then go on the ends of the stub wings. For some reason I can only see it in high-speed silver with prototype P markings....

Another idea? Okay then, how about a Lizzie with two fuselage-mounted engines in the style of the Dornier Skyservant? Since I have a Do-28 with the idea of nicking it's engines for an updated Anson, the latter's period radials would be perfect for the "Twin Lizzie".

Volkodav · « **Reply #2 on:** February 01, 2014, 07:18:42 AM »

A Grumman Wildcat lower fuselage grafted in with the wheels retracting just forward of the wing braces?

kitnut617 · « **Reply #3 on:** February 01, 2014, 07:32:11 AM »

Quote from: Volkodav on February 01, 2014, 07:18:42 AM

A Grumman Wildcat lower fuselage grafted in with the wheels retracting just forward of the wing braces?

Or an F2F/F3F ---- I like that idea -- :)

Volkodav · « **Reply #4 on:** February 01, 2014, 07:33:32 AM »

I'm good for ideas, just crap of converting them to plastic

jcf · « **Reply #5 on:** February 01, 2014, 09:06:58 AM »

Quote from: Volkodav on February 01, 2014, 07:18:42 AM

A Grumman Wildcat lower fuselage grafted in with the wheels retracting just forward of the wing braces?

Only if combined with the Pregnant Perch.

20mm on the gear legs ...

and a turret.

Cliffy B · « **Reply #6 on:** February 01, 2014, 09:11:37 AM »

One word; FLOATS

elmayerle · « **Reply #7 on:** February 01, 2014, 12:28:45 PM »

Wasn't there a study for a varaint with a Delange multi-wing set-up and a large power turret in the back?

My second thought would be the main gear retracting into stub wings with the wing struts tied to the outer ends of the stub wings, much as proposed for the Cessna 185RG.

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #8 on:** February 01, 2014, 12:47:56 PM »

Quote from: elmayerle on February 01, 2014, 12:28:45 PM

Wasn't there a study for a varaint with a Delange multi-wing set-up and a large power turret in the back?

Wikipedia identifies that version/variant of the Westland Lysander as the P.12 Lysander Delanne (later renamed Westland Wendover)

jcf · « **Reply #9 on:** February 01, 2014, 02:40:27 PM »

Quote from: elmayerle on February 01, 2014, 12:28:45 PM

Wasn't there a study for a varaint with a Delange multi-wing set-up and a large power turret in the back?

My second thought would be the main gear retracting into stub wings with the wing struts tied to the outer ends of the stub wings, much as proposed for the Cessna 185RG.

As was done on the Heston Phoenix and Kreider-Reisner XC-31.

upnorth · « **Reply #10 on:** February 01, 2014, 09:15:14 PM »

Quote from: Cliffy B on February 01, 2014, 09:11:37 AM

One word; FLOATS

Beat me to it! :)

Weaver · « **Reply #11 on:** February 01, 2014, 10:00:53 PM »

Just came back from an LHS which mostly does trains, where I picked up a second hand Airfix Engine Shed model to find bits of a half-finished Lysander (and a rusty razor blade

) in it. I was severely tempted to buy it, build the world's first STOL engine shed, and claim it was "straight out of the box"....

elmayerle · « **Reply #12 on:** February 02, 2014, 01:20:46 AM »

Quote from: jcf on February 01, 2014, 02:40:27 PM

Quote from: elmayerle on February 01, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
Wasn't there a study for a varaint with a Delange multi-wing set-up and a large power turret in the back?

My second thought would be the main gear retracting into stub wings with the wing struts tied to the outer ends of the stub wings, much as proposed for the Cessna 185RG.

As was done on the Heston Phoenix and Kreider-Reisner XC-31.

the Heston aircraft is about the right size but the XC-31 comes very close to what the AD folk at Cessna proposed. I could see that being done with a Lysander.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #13 on:** February 02, 2014, 03:57:33 AM »

Finnish Antitank version with 1 or 2 Bordkanone BK 3,7...

PR19_Kit · « **Reply #14 on:** February 02, 2014, 04:40:12 AM »

I do like the idea of a Lysander with a Phoenix type undercarriage, a logical development indeed.

Daryl J. · « **Reply #15 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:01:59 AM »

Heh...makes me miss my metal plated Mark II Lysander kit Testors issued 3/4 of a lifetime ago.....

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #16 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:45:16 AM »

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #17 on:** February 02, 2014, 05:48:45 AM »

Quote from: Cliffy B on February 01, 2014, 09:11:37 AM

One word; FLOATS

You were saying...one by our very own Apophenia:

Cliffy B · « **Reply #18 on:** February 02, 2014, 06:09:29 AM »

Mmmmmmmm, me likey!!!

Weaver · « **Reply #19 on:** February 02, 2014, 11:50:42 AM »

How about a civilianised Canadian bush-plane version with either floats or the spatted wheels replaced by a pair of those oversized "bush wheels" (yes, I'm still thinking about those Piper Cubs...

)

You could extend the u/c strut to get the axle at the right height for the "naked" wheels and that would give you a wider track for landing on rough surfaces. Also maybe give it an American engine.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #20 on:** February 11, 2014, 02:39:44 AM »

The real retractable undercarriage Lizzie ideas:

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #21 on:** February 11, 2014, 02:40:04 AM »

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #22 on:** February 11, 2014, 02:46:42 AM »

uncle les · « **Reply #23 on:** February 11, 2014, 07:46:44 AM »

Meanwhile, lurking at a ModelExpo comp a few years ago..

Volkodav · « **Reply #24 on:** February 11, 2017, 12:23:53 PM »

how about a retractable fuselage mounted cannon that could be swung/aimed by the observer through say 15-20deg port and starboard and down?


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Author Topic: Westland Lysander Ideas and Inspiration (Read 11454 times)