Author Topic: The Other American Tanks (Read 11943 times)

GTX_Admin · « **on:** April 25, 2013, 06:13:50 AM »

Hi folks,

We all know of the M2, M3 and M4 but what about some of the lesser known tanks the US developed and even produced (albeit in small numbers). For instance, the M6:

jcf · « **Reply #1 on:** April 25, 2013, 06:29:30 AM »

A good start page:
http://mailer.fsu.edu/~akirk/tanks/UnitedStates/TheUnitedStates.html

arkon · « **Reply #2 on:** April 25, 2013, 07:12:08 AM »

i always liked the little mini m4= the m22 locust

Dr. YoKai · « **Reply #3 on:** April 25, 2013, 09:44:22 PM »

I like the Locust, also the odd ( and awful ) Marmon-Herrington light tanks*, which I gather saw
some service in the Aleutians. And I keep thinking that some variation of the 'Skeleton tank'
might be a fun build, as would the first US Heavy tank design, ( 2 X 75mm, 1 X 37 mm, and 1 X 20mm,
beaucoup machine guns ) for which, as far as I can tell, no drawings exist.

* Steve Zaloga did an excellent scratch build of one - I'll see if I can dig it up.

Gingie · « **Reply #4 on:** April 25, 2013, 11:02:58 PM »

I like some of the scout / light prototype tanks that came out of the 60's-70's. Stingray type things. One looks like a mini-Sheridan with a LAV-25 turret. Have to dig in to my Hunnicut to find more examples.

Cliffy B · « **Reply #5 on:** April 26, 2013, 08:43:53 AM »

I still love the T29 mainly because of its stereoscopic rangefinder in the turret. It looks like a naval turret!

finsrin · « **Reply #6 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:18:27 AM »

M6 and T-29 new to me. Have not hung out with hard core armor crowd.
Some different tanks - thanks for posting.
Question: did either fire even one round in combat ?

Cliffy B · « **Reply #7 on:** April 26, 2013, 09:53:15 AM »

Not to my knowledge Fin. The M6 was an experimental design not meant for mass production (I think) and the T29 missed the war and became an experimental tank afterwards for new stuff meant for postwar tanks. Would have been interesting to see how it handled the German heavies as it was meant to do.

dy031101 · « **Reply #8 on:** April 26, 2013, 10:40:56 AM »

My only regret with the World of Tanks is that I can't put the long 90mm gun on the M6 Heavy like the above illustration.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #9 on:** April 26, 2013, 11:07:26 AM »

I think I've posted it before, but here was my US medium tank based on the M6 Heavy Tank. Basically, it'd have been a bigger, heavier, tougher, and better armed medium tank than the Sherman, but considerably smaller and more practical than the M6 ever was.

Cheers,

Logan

Gingie · « **Reply #10 on:** April 26, 2013, 10:11:26 PM »

This is the one I really want to build in 35th, or something like it. Not sure what it is or where I found the photo (lol, probably here on BTS!)
I really like the look of these scout / recce tankettes:

PS - if anyone has a link to a walk-around of this, I'd be greatful for it.

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #11 on:** April 26, 2013, 10:39:35 PM »

Quote from: Gingie on April 26, 2013, 10:11:26 PM

PS - if anyone has a link to a walk-around of this, I'd be greatful for it.

Some more images and links at this page on the JedSite: XM800W ASRV

Gingie · « **Reply #12 on:** April 26, 2013, 11:22:32 PM »

Perfect. Now that I've got a name I'm good to go.

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #13 on:** April 26, 2013, 11:29:43 PM »

Technically, that one's the XM800T. Google that and you'll get some great images. FMC built it so it's probably safe to say there's an M113 part or two in there.

Cheers,

Logan

Dr. YoKai · « **Reply #14 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:25:45 AM »

Nice profiles, Hartke.

Here's the Zaloga build of the T-16.

http://www.militarymodelling.com/news/article/worst-us-tank-of-wwii/3434/

and here's a short overview of their odd and largely forgotten vehicles.

http://www.overvalwagen.com/tanks.html

Logan Hartke · « **Reply #15 on:** April 27, 2013, 01:35:44 AM »

Quote from: Dr. YoKai on April 27, 2013, 01:25:45 AM

Nice profiles, Hartke.

Thanks! I liked the way they came out as a nifty little hybrid. In many ways, I think they'd be almost a match for a Panther or at least a KV-1S.

Cheers,

Logan

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #16 on:** April 27, 2013, 04:00:59 AM »

Commander Models produce kits of many of these lesser known tanks (along with other rarities): http://ironshipwrights.com/armor/armor.html

ysi_maniac · « **Reply #17 on:** April 27, 2013, 08:43:18 AM »

Quote from: Gingie on April 26, 2013, 10:11:26 PM

This is the one I really want to build in 35th, or something like it. Not sure what it is or where I found the photo (lol, probably here on BTS!)
I really like the look of these scout / recce tankettes:

I love XM800T too mmmmmm...

AGRA · « **Reply #18 on:** April 27, 2013, 08:51:19 AM »

Quote from: ysi_maniac on April 27, 2013, 08:43:18 AM

I love XM800T too mmmmmm...

What if it had entered service? M800A1 with TOW launcher added to turret. M800A2 with applique armour to resist Soviet 30mm AP. M800A3 fire support version with 105mm turret.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #19 on:** April 27, 2013, 10:59:40 AM »

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Story · « **Reply #20 on:** August 10, 2017, 01:23:16 AM »

How about the Ford 3 ton M1918?
https://www.shapeways.com/product/NZXVWMA6Q/pv16e-m1918-ford-3-ton-tank-1-35?optionId=62676074
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_3-Ton_M1918

Story · « **Reply #21 on:** February 06, 2022, 07:52:27 AM »

The last Marmon-Herrington CLT-3 light tank, a Hollywood veteran now allegedly being restored.

https://preview.redd.it/augg82kj6pd81.jpg?width=960&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=d77daf2f1ad1cf632683c2c1521bd2da376aca82

I suspect this undated photo may be of the exact same tank - note the slatted grill work on the side of the hull gunner's station matches those above.

and here as a naaaaaaaaaaazi tank https://www.imcdb.org/i287237.jpg

Backstory details - it's only original from the fenders down. https://www.mapleleafup.nl/marmonherrington/ctl-3.html

Marines playing with two of their five CLT-3s

Dr. YoKai · « **Reply #22 on:** February 07, 2022, 01:10:27 AM »

When I saw the initial picture, I had a feeling it might have appeared in an episode of The Wild, Wild West. I was wrong, but I wasn't far wrong - it was actually an episode of Briscoe County Jr. Available on TUBI: https://tubitv.com/tv-shows/644158/s01-e03-no-man-s-land?start=true

Story · « **Reply #23 on:** February 07, 2022, 01:30:37 AM »

Yeah, I didn't think to include that tidbit. Glad you enjoyed it.

https://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Marmon-Herrington_model-CTL.html

Appears that it's screen debut was in the 1943 FOR WHOM THE BELL TOLLS.

Story · « **Reply #24 on:** February 07, 2022, 01:44:00 AM »

Another obscure American tank - the M7 - and a part of history that falls between the pages of the books.

Officially only 7 M7 tanks were built during the whole production phase. However, 6 other tanks were upgraded from some of the previous prototype models. These models were T7E2s, their transmissions and power plants were upgraded, and their component castings improved to bring them up to M7 standard. The 6 modified T7E2s were compiled with the other 7 M7 tanks, which brought total production to 13 vehicles. What can't be explained, however, is the image below from the Wisconsin Historical Society:

This image shows at least 40 M7s in various states of completion, with hulls and empty turrets scattered around. Currently, there is no official literature available, to us at least, to coincide with this photo.
https://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/m7-medium.php


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