Grumman (Northrop Grumman) C-2 Greyhound

[Jeffry Fontaine]

taking home a pair (yes two) of the Kinetic 1/48th scale C-2 Greyhound kits.

And what would you be planning with those Jeff?  Maybe a C-4

With three of the Kinetic Greyhound kits now in the stash, I really have nothing that elaborate planned for any of the things.  Some ideas I thought worth sharing though are: 

I had an idea for something "speculative" and quite fictional based on the C-2.  Finding an appropriate name for the thing that would be the Navy version of the Greyhound performing a mission similar to the USAF C-141 SOLL (Special Operations Low-Level) aircraft that were used on occasion to deliver things to places where we were not always welcome.  So you could call it the MC-2 Greyhound SOLL.  Other fictional project code names such "Combat Collie" or "Combat Shepherd" come to mind but I think the MC-2 Greyhound SOLL would be the best of the bunch.  I am open to other suggestions for a project code name that has a canine themed name. 

Another possible project would be a Royal Navy Greyhound C.1 COD (Carrier On-Board Delivery) aircraft.  If the RN CV ever slides down the ways and has an actual air wing assigned there would surely be a need for such an aircraft, or not? 

The whole 8-bladed propeller got me excited about the Kinetic kit but I had not envisioned scoring three of the things so quickly. 

Another possibility might be a KC-2 Greyhound with a pair of the D-704 refueling stores mounted under the wings.  Certainly a very simple conversion and easy make.  The wing pylons could be made from plastic card stock or salvaged from another kit.  I figure the 1/72nd scale wing pylons from the C-130 Hercules will work quite well for such a project and a dash of scale-o-rama.  Another minor alteration to the basic C-2 fuselage on the tail ramp might be to consider the hose unit from the Cobra Company KA-6D conversion kit and mount that to the ramp.  That way you could have three hose/drogue units on your KC-2 Greyhound Tanker. 

***update.  Now down to just two of the Kinetic C-2 Greyhound kits after arranging a sale with another modeler located in Oregon for a kit minus the eight-bladed propeller parts.  Both parties are happy with the transaction. 


Reference link: Wikipedia - C-2 Greyhound page

[GTX_Admin]

Well there's always this old chestnut:






or perhaps something with a tiltrotor flavour?

Regards,

Greg

[Jeffry Fontaine]

Yep, that would be an interesting conversion to the C-2.  Perhaps in a smaller scale to hide the imperfections? 

I remember something similar to this that was based on the fuselage of the V-22 Osprey and the wings of the Greyhound/Hawkeye that looked quite impressive. 

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Just realized that based on your images that the D-704 aerial refueling store with stores pylons mounted on the wings might not work out very well since the wing folds almost immediately after the engine the weight and physical size of the refueling store with pylon might be a bit in the way of things if it were jutting out from the bottom of the wing.  Guess the KA-6D hose/drogue feature in the ramp would be the best solution. 

[finsrin]

Greyhound bus type markings as Greyhound expands into the airline business.......

[GTX_Admin]

Greyhound bus type markings as Greyhound expands into the airline business.......

I love it!

[phantomdriver]

surprised they haven't already thought of it, as a replacement is being sought...

[Cliffy B]

Greyhound bus type markings as Greyhound expands into the airline business.......

That's so darn obvious, I LOVE IT!!!  Somebody make one now!!!

As for another version, anyone remember the gunship version someone made profiles for back on the Whiff board? 

[Maverick]

Did a bunch of them for the usual suspects using a C-2 as the basis with different armament fits.  Also did a bunch of alternate user plain Jane C-2s.

Regards,

John

[elmayerle]

Greyhound bus type markings as Greyhound expands into the airline business.......

Highly appropriate and would good matched with a 747SP where the "SP" meant Southern Pacific as the railroads expanded into the airline business (almost happened, at least in freight haulage, just after WW II when the ATSF looked to get into it but was stopped by the ICC - there were DC-4's painted up with an adaptation of the Santa Fe's "warbonnet" paint scheme as applied to their streamlined diesel engines of the period - imagine a 747 freighter done up that way).

[finsrin]

Can one of you graphics guru's show us concepts of Greyhounds in service with Greyhound Lines when they enter the air line business?
C-2 or Greyhound 21.  Thinking fuselage shape is akin to bus shape and carries the bus finish in design and colors well.  Same look is on both bus and airplane for continuity of corporate identity to customers.
Attached pictures for review.
Bill

[Alvis 3.1]

Greyhound actually ran an airline in Western Canada back in 96-97, using 727s.

[Daryl J.]

Naval Puff the Magic Dragon.

[finsrin]

When Greyhound operates the C-2 it will be called Greyhound Greyhound.

[Maverick]

Naval Puff the Magic Dragon.

Did a swag of profiles of Gunship Greyhounds back in the day including VAH-21 & USMC machines.

Regards,

John

[GTX_Admin]

I wonder...a C-2 with RR Pegasus engines under each wing...

[elmayerle]

I wonder...a C-2 with RR Pegasus engines under each wing...

Quite plausible though you'd need a longer nacelle to properly store the main gear.   The bifurcated rear duct would make that easier to do, though, than with most turbofans.

[Jeffry Fontaine]

I wonder...a C-2 with RR Pegasus engines under each wing...

Quite plausible though you'd need a longer nacelle to properly store the main gear.   The bifurcated rear duct would make that easier to do, though, than with most turbofans.

Better yet, move the landing gear to the fuselage.  Add on a pair of sponsons to house the main landing gear assemblies and that leaves you with an uncomplicated engine nacelle. 

[kitnut617]

I wonder...a C-2 with RR Pegasus engines under each wing...

Quite plausible though you'd need a longer nacelle to properly store the main gear.   The bifurcated rear duct would make that easier to do, though, than with most turbofans.

I think that would look really neat Greg, when I was doing my STOVL Canberra I had given where the engine would go a lot of thought. I figured that when the nozzles were swiveled down the center point of the four nozzles should be about where the load cg was on the Canberra.  I was able to get a load cg chart of a Canberra B.8 which position the cg right in line with the forward wall of the main u/c wheel bay.  When I lined up the engine (using a Harrier GR.3 fuselage as a nacelle) and number of things fell into place.  One was the Canberra's main spar ended up right above where the Harrier main gear was, or right at the back of the engine, which was perfect.  So if you are able to get hold of a load cg chart for the C-2 it shouldn't be a problem, the Harrier fuselage can be used as the nacelle on this too because you could use the pitch and yaw puffers at the back of it .

[GTX_Admin]

Maybe a competitor tote Do-31?

[GTX_Admin]

I wonder...C-2 as a small regional airliner?

[Volkodav]

Replacement for the Shorts C-23 Sherpa (and the C-27J Spartan) in US Army service

[Daryl J.]

Jamming aircraft