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Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Aero-space => Topic started by: Kerick on April 08, 2020, 10:17:29 AM

Title: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 08, 2020, 10:17:29 AM
I recently started a kitbash on another forum for their "In The Navy" GB. I usually don't get into many group builds as I build so slowly I never finish in time. Now with this "shelter in place" stuff going on I might have a chance.

Just a few pics to show my progress so far.

Here's what the floats started out looking like.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49748047601_65236c67d7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iN4KmD)

I decided to lengthen the main float to better fit the A-10 fuselage. I used sprue to build a frame for the stretch.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49748042816_7aaf3f0ef0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iN4HW9)

I curled a piece of plastic sheet to wrap around the frame. Gaps filled with CA glue or plastic slivers.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49748365017_f47f71e179_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iN6nHk)

Much PSR at the moment.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49748374642_cc257aa7d0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iN6qzh)

Next will be trying to build the box over the fuselage the wings will attach to and hold the main gear.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on April 08, 2020, 03:52:47 PM
Fine pontoon stretch technique. :smiley:     With A-10 engines up out of way from water spray, its a natural for a float plane version.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 09, 2020, 02:27:13 AM
Keen to see this one finished.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on April 09, 2020, 04:07:59 AM
Excellent idea!  Especially with the A-10 having the engine intakes masked by the wing so that spray ingestion is reduced. 
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on April 09, 2020, 04:10:41 AM
Fine pontoon stretch technique...

I'll say! That looks amazing  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 09, 2020, 11:29:55 AM
Keen to see this one finished.

Me too!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 10, 2020, 01:07:23 PM
A little progress. The float is attached to the fuselage.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49755081878_cb0de02de3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iNFNph)

Now if my wife would go back to work I might have more progress! She's thinking up Honey do projects faster than I can get the materials for them!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 11, 2020, 02:28:57 AM
Looking good.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on April 11, 2020, 05:07:31 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 12, 2020, 02:55:53 AM
Puttied up the fuselage float joint. I glued in a strip of really thin polystyrene over the joint. I cut it from a clear cookie container. Once this is sorted out I’ll work on the wings. I think I’ll use the S-3 Viking horizontal stabs but it in a vee. I’ll have to check that as I go as it might be in the path of engine exhaust.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on April 12, 2020, 12:55:58 PM
Liking pontoon-fuselage match.  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: elmayerle on April 12, 2020, 12:59:30 PM
Puttied up the fuselage float joint. I glued in a strip of really thin polystyrene over the joint. I cut it from a clear cookie container. Once this is sorted out I’ll work on the wings. I think I’ll use the S-3 Viking horizontal stabs but it in a vee. I’ll have to check that as I go as it might be in the path of engine exhaust.
Probably need to set the angle of the vee so that they don't.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 13, 2020, 01:06:23 PM
Well, here's a look at plan B. Its the S-3 tail parts in a new arrangement. I'm glad I'm not the engineer who would have to figure out how to do this for real!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49767174513_9a654c9b4f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iPKM7Z)

It's tacked on for now so we'll see if I continue to like it or if I come up with another idea.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/49767172743_2bfa6382d7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2iPKLAt)

I might get out the saw again and shorten the whole thing a bit.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on April 13, 2020, 03:48:34 PM
 looking good ! :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on April 13, 2020, 05:25:47 PM
Best wishes sanding putty.  PSR.  I can relate.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: robunos on April 13, 2020, 06:30:46 PM
Martin Marlin, is that you ?   ;D
Looking good so far, don't think it needs shortening at all, sleek is good . . .   ;)


cheers,
Robin.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on April 14, 2020, 08:12:44 AM
Hmmmmm....
Putty on the model and retaping the drywall joints in the upstairs bedrooms. (Long story!)
PSR all around!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on May 17, 2020, 02:16:10 PM
Minor touch ups on the PSR on the fuselage. Nothing worth taking a pic of just now. Time to start working on the box that goes on the fuselage that supports the wing and holds the main gear. If I push on this I might finish by the end of the month.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on May 17, 2020, 04:19:36 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: FAAMAN on May 24, 2020, 07:57:58 AM
This'll be good ;) ;) ;)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on July 10, 2020, 02:22:44 PM
Finally finished the PSR on the fuselage and attached the tail. I found a solution to the problem of what to do with the saddle across the A-10 fuselage that holds the wings. An old Ertl/AMT Skyhawk in 1/48th donated its wings to the effort. It had been sitting in a drawer for 20 years so time to make a move on it. Anyway, here are some pics.

Blue is the clipped Skyhawk upper wing. Much chopping was required between removing from the half finished model and what you see.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096575422_5833244f37_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjS3x1)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096574592_0504c7b282_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjS3hG)

The underside. I boxed in some future wheel wells and then covered the hole thing with really thin polystyrene from a food package box.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096573587_233f619feb_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjS2Zn)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096341491_ed920e56dd_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjQQZH)

I wrapped sandpaper around a piece of 1/2 inch copper pipe to sand a trough where the A-10 fuselage will fit. The Skyhawk parts got really thin and had to be glued back together. it will be much stronger when mounted on the A-10.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096340181_0ff7eea011_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjQQB8)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50096570552_032b818ff5_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jjS263)

I added thick pieces of plastic to the outside edges so that I can round them off later.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on August 28, 2020, 12:00:46 PM
Can't believe its been July 10th since the last post on this project! Lots of things been going on here so maybe it will calm down and I can get something in now and then. Anyway, I cut some wheel wells in the middle bay and am gluing up some gear legs from the A-10 kit main gear and the leftover main legs from the afore mentioned Skyhawk. Still not long enough so adding some blocks inside the wheel bay. raising the wing and adding a float makes for a tall fuselage. I'll post pics when there is more to see. I hope that is soon.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on August 28, 2020, 02:46:17 PM
welcome back  ;)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: LemonJello on August 28, 2020, 08:51:24 PM
Always good to see a project revived.  I have several sitting in boxes waiting on me...
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 02, 2020, 10:12:59 AM
So now we have some legs!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50296477932_dd97cc4211_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jCwAA1)

A combination of A-10 legs, Skyhawk legs and some sprue.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50296317776_e30c6d7a8b_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jCvLYG)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50296316581_e0f0b812d8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jCvLC6)

Now I have to cut a hole for nose gear.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50295637728_b7705b5bc4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jCshPJ)

The whole saddle device worked very well. Attaching the wings should go well. More PSR around the saddle and a few touch ups.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on September 02, 2020, 02:51:28 PM
Enjoy photos, keep going, nice work.  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on September 02, 2020, 06:19:07 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 03, 2020, 02:08:27 AM
Looking good
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 03, 2020, 10:24:05 AM
Thanks for the kind comments gents!
Now I'll have to seriously look into a paint scheme. Definitely darker than gull grey.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ChernayaAkula on September 03, 2020, 08:48:57 PM
Famn nifty scale engimaneering!  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 17, 2020, 07:18:08 PM
We have wings! Pics hopefully later today. I’m working on engine pylons next.
I've also cut a hole for the nose gear.
I have no idea what to do about a paint scheme or even time period. Could end up anything from post WW2 to the present. Any suggestions?

Here's a couple of pics.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50353643738_0a12bed249_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jHzzZm)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50353644808_98f7028952_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jHzAiN)

At least the tail doesn't look so overly large now. Flaps were removed from the wings many years ago but will be used as intended.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on September 18, 2020, 05:31:11 PM
Nice! 8)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 19, 2020, 02:24:41 AM
So many options re markings and schemes.  Were you thinking any particular nation?

One that leaps out would be USMC obviously, though perhaps for something different, someone like Indonesia?
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Frank3k on September 19, 2020, 03:36:42 AM
The A-10 seaplane looks better than I imagined. You could have it as a companion to the Seamaster!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 19, 2020, 11:23:39 AM
US Marines might be a good idea. My idea behind the model was a conflict in the 80s or 90s descends into a South Pacific island hopping campaign. Kind of a repeat of the PBYs black cats attacking Japanese shipping during WW2. There was an interesting scheme on Marine Skyhawks that I’ll look into.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on September 19, 2020, 11:49:33 AM
US Marines might be a good idea. My idea behind the model was a conflict in the 80s or 90s descends into a South Pacific island hopping campaign. Kind of a repeat of the PBYs black cats attacking Japanese shipping during WW2. There was an interesting scheme on Marine Skyhawks that I’ll look into.

Or flip that on its head? Japanese Maritime Self-Defense Force markings for anti-shipping ops during a 1990s clash with the PRC over the Senkaku Islands?
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Robomog on September 19, 2020, 05:02:16 PM
That is looking good, you can hardly see the A10 in it anymore  :smiley: :smiley:

Mog
>^-.-^<
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on September 19, 2020, 07:19:53 PM
 :smiley:

I guess engines are not yet there
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 19, 2020, 08:58:01 PM
JMSDF is a great idea. I’ll be making some engine pylons soon.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on September 20, 2020, 12:34:26 AM
A-10 origins are barely evident.  Might be I see it only because know its there.  Looking unique  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 20, 2020, 08:30:24 AM
Once I add the engines the A-10 look might come back a little.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on September 30, 2020, 12:04:25 PM
Working with the fiddly bits right now. I’m going to place two or four Maverick missiles on top of the wings to keep them out of the spray. Need to find two more Maverick launch rails. Sidewinders and ECM pods out on the wing tips. Also some wing tip floats. Then landing gear doors all around.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on October 05, 2020, 03:37:00 AM
And now we have engines!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50419154222_bd151a603e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPnkYs)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50419151917_f0dc88881f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPnkhH)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50419149382_69f5ef4291_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jPnjx1)

The A-10 roots might be a little more apparent now. Big stuff is pretty much done so now on to all the little pieces!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 05, 2020, 03:50:01 AM
Who's your Daddy...?

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bcJo8W1EW3I/W5D3IFqi9kI/AAAAAAAAYVs/ENe9dqnR7f8tVIHO5shwEXAs_067r5RSACLcBGAs/w1200-h630-p-k-no-nu/A42Banking4oClock_1.jpg)

 ;)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on October 05, 2020, 09:36:42 AM
This just gets better and better  :smiley:

Who's your Daddy...?

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on October 05, 2020, 02:07:45 PM
a striking look !

Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on October 05, 2020, 04:10:37 PM
Nope, A-10 parentage isn't, actually, obvious at all. :smiley:

The more I see of her the more I like what I see! 8)


(Although I would have angled the engine pylons a bit; for personal aesthetic reasons which bear no relation to your build. ;))
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 06, 2020, 01:39:17 AM
Are we going to see similar landing gear?

(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/20/Be-42_rear_view_-_Fairford_96.jpg)

Click to expand.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on October 06, 2020, 11:59:22 AM
It’ll be something like that. I’m using the A-10 gear as much as possible.
Trying to make wing tip floats out of 1/48th mini gun pods. I wasn’t using them for anything else.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 07, 2020, 03:22:54 AM
Maybe just re-use but reverse the existing A-10 wing landing gear 'pods':

(https://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5185945246_3366c82b53_o.jpg)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on October 07, 2020, 03:58:31 AM
Wish I had thought of that but I’m beyond that point now. I’ll have to cut doors for everything.
I wonder if I can get away with fuel tanks under the wings? Weapons will all be above the wings.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on October 09, 2020, 11:30:10 AM
Located a spare Navy style AAR probe in another kit. This will look good. I added winglets to the wing tips for ECM pods and a Sidewinder or two. Working on the wing floats too. Nose gear doors will be made from the piece I cut out to open the gear bay. Main gear doors will have to be cut new from sheet plastic.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on October 24, 2020, 01:43:37 PM
Here are some pics showing the latest progress.
The winglets were cut from the fuselage left over from another A-10 kit.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50522011788_be8d0a2a6e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jYsvWL)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50522011538_c3f3d1e7d0_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jYsvSs)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50522733276_04f6366f33_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jYwdqd)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50522732286_2a505b320d_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jYwd89)

The wing floats are from 1/48th minigun pods, parts of the Skyhawk's tail and Aves epoxie putty.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/50522010863_37d95161e1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2jYsvEP)

I'm really going to have to choose a paint scheme soon!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on October 24, 2020, 05:32:00 PM
Winglets: Tricky! And they look very good! 8)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on November 18, 2020, 06:20:19 AM
I’ve been agonizing over a paint scheme for this build and it finally came to me. How about a Russian/Soviet scheme with lots of red stars? Story could be its working with the eckronoplanes in the Black Sea and Caspian Sea areas. I have a MiG 21 decal sheet that should work well and an SU-22 that might provide some missiles. I’ll have to look into the actual colors used by the Soviet/Russian navy or just wing it.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 19, 2020, 01:25:43 AM
There might be some ideas for schemes here (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=65.0).  That said, the YAK-38 Blue/Green would look good:

(https://i.pinimg.com/originals/f6/f7/86/f6f78639ebe87bef323ee738696bbe1a.jpg)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on November 19, 2020, 08:00:31 AM
The blue might be interesting but that green, I don’t know.....
Although, I see I will have to paint the wheels green.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on November 19, 2020, 10:57:48 AM
...The winglets were cut from the fuselage left over from another A-10 kit...

Clever! And very effective  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on May 14, 2021, 02:26:31 PM
Well a little mojo has returned to this project! I attached some fiddly bits and cockpit stuff. I made an IRST for in front of the cockpit instead of the Pave Penny pod. I managed to loose the Maverick missile rails so I'm waiting for a new Hasegawa weapons set to arrive to steal some from. I'll post some pics when there is a little more to show.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on August 04, 2021, 10:33:36 AM
Here's a couple of pics of the latest progress, such as it is.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51355883536_6bb560fdf4_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mf9jXS)

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/51355145617_08eae9be77_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2mf5xB8)

I stole/liberated an air to air refueling probe from an F-5 kit that wasn't going to need it. I'm going to have to get serious about painting now.
Probably use a paint scheme similar to present day USMC Harriers with I believe gunship gray topside with a light gray underside.

Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on August 04, 2021, 11:40:29 AM
That came out really well  :smiley:

...Probably use a paint scheme similar to present day USMC Harriers ...

Although, somehow, this A-10 has taken on a serious Beriev vibe  ;D
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on August 04, 2021, 03:29:21 PM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on August 04, 2021, 05:59:44 PM
It's taking its own sweet time but I like how this beastie is coming along! :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Buzzbomb on August 08, 2021, 07:56:25 AM
Still looking fantastic.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on August 09, 2021, 11:13:07 AM
I ordered some USMC Harrier decals so that will nail down the paint scheme. Finally! So now I will just have to apply the paint!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Gingie on August 10, 2021, 12:31:51 AM
fantastic! I had my doubts when I read the thread title, but you've really stuck the landing on this one!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on November 09, 2023, 12:21:36 PM
Whatifmodelers is having a Finish It GB so this might see some action. No promises but the GB is a year long so be patient.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: ericr on November 09, 2023, 03:10:35 PM
 :smiley: ;)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 11, 2024, 11:10:41 AM
Bought a new bottle of Dark Ghost Grey acrylic to go with the other paints I have. So at least that means I'll go with all acrylic to finish this. $7.50 for this one little bottle! What are they making this stuff out of, unicorn pee?
I have the decals chosen so ready to go there. I also entered it in my clubs Shelf Queen GB so I might get myself more motivated over this and do something with it.

The present state of affairs....

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53319827603_12d49c5222_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2peG47t)

Basic pattern will be a variation on the US Marine Harriers.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53455530217_911d419978_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2prFyLH")
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 12, 2024, 01:33:49 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on January 12, 2024, 04:04:46 AM
Pleased to see production restarted.   Is in class of its own.   What a design concept !
Does carry Dark Ghost Grey well.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Frank3k on January 12, 2024, 06:14:50 AM
What paint is that expensive? Vallejo and AK acrylics are under $4 for a 17ml bottle, which is good for a lot of models. Even the Tamiya acrylics are less than $4
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 12, 2024, 07:33:03 AM
As with most builds.. put on a base coat and the whole thing melds together.

Nice work
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on January 12, 2024, 12:44:04 PM
Reviewed build thread.  Lot of commendable plastic surgery  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Dr. YoKai on January 13, 2024, 01:00:09 AM
 It does remind me of a scaled-down Beriev Be-200. Beautiful execution os far, and the color scheme sounds good.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 13, 2024, 02:00:49 AM
It was Mission Models acrylic from a hobby store. It’s the 30 ml bottle so twice the paint.
I’ll be using this and Model Master acrylic gunship grey and light ghost grey. Problem now is what thinner to use. I have both kinds of Tamiya, alcohol and distilled water. The alcohol and water will be my last choice. I think I’ll brush paint it before I do that.
Top to bottom will be gunship grey, dark ghost grey and light ghost grey. That will match with the decals.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Frank3k on January 13, 2024, 07:49:49 AM
When in doubt, the Vallejo airbrush thinner works with most acrylics, although I haven't tried it with the Mission Model paints.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 13, 2024, 10:20:26 AM
Mission Models says it doesn’t necessarily need to be thinned so I’ll try that first.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 15, 2024, 02:14:38 PM
I actually painted something and I think it turned out well! This is a big deal as paint and I seem to have been having a feud for quite awhile. So straight to the pics.

Model Master Light Ghost Grey with no thinner on the undersides.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53464847856_0423781f2e_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2psvjzE")

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53464986418_82236c5b44_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2psw2LE")

I was considering a new whiff camo scheme but this was too weird even for me.

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53463937012_8fc83b972b_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2psqDPs")

Mission Models Dark Ghost Grey without thinner as it says on the bottle. Good thing I read the directions!

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53464985058_1a9bbfcaaa_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2psw2nd")

(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53465270265_d66c77e891_c.jpg) (http://"https://flic.kr/p/2psxu9z")

There was very little difference in color between the dry Light Ghost Grey and the wet Dark Ghost Grey. It looks like I didn't miss anything critical.
And a left over sci fi brain of silly putty. Feel free to place all comments about celebrities, Karens and politicians here.
This would hardly stick any more so I'll be getting new.

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The Model Master Gunship Grey will be tomorrow. Then gloss acrylic, decals, flat acrylic, maybe a little weathering to cover up any mistakes if I get brave enough.  The scenario was a South Pacific island hopping campaign in the 80s advancing trough the Solomons. So some wear and tear would be required.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 15, 2024, 04:06:16 PM
Put some gloss on it then watch the colours change  ;)
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 16, 2024, 06:09:44 AM
That always happens. Some paints I’ve used seem worse at that than others. If only the flat coat would turn it back but it doesn’t work that way. The Tamiya acrylics I’ve used didn’t darken as much as say model master enamels did. I wish someone would produce gloss paints.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 18, 2024, 10:03:19 AM
I took another shot at painting this beast today. Silly putty and masking tape for the gunship grey.

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Take a close look at the placement of the silly putty. I made a "worm" and placed it where I wanted the color line to be and covered other complicated surfaces with putty squeezed flat. The rest was covered with tape as you see.

Then I began to take the silly putty and tape off. Surprise!

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What the f........?
Everywhere the silly putty touched the Mission Model paint it turned to that much darker shade. Where it touched the Model Master it was fine. Both paints had dried over 24 hours.
If I were going for a crazy random camo pattern that was unseeable until I pulled the masking off this would be great. Now I get to let this dry for the whole weekend because we are going out of town and try the dark ghost grey again. I guess I won't use silly putty.
I don't know what it is about me and paint but this is ridiculous.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: raafif on January 18, 2024, 10:56:45 AM
Years ago I found that Maskol (stinky ammonia smell) did the same.  Apart from a complete respray there's no way to fix it so pretend it's all part of the cam scheme.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 18, 2024, 11:03:22 AM
I have seriously considered that! I'm going to let it sit for a few days to let everything dry/cure before doing anything. I about flipped when I started peeling the masking off.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 19, 2024, 09:54:08 AM
I started to think to myself, why not silly putty the rest of it and at least make it all the same?

Here's the result of the experiment. Looks pretty good to me.
The dark ghost grey didn't get sprayed well down around the gun area so this might become an experiment in weathering for me and collect a bunch of soot from the gun.

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This Harrier is more or less what I'm going for. The "middle" color isn't dark ghost grey here anyway. If you look closely there is another Harrier that looks more like its got dark ghost grey on it. This is a whiff so "no biggy da GI" as the ladies in Thailand used to say.

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Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on January 19, 2024, 05:17:14 PM
I think it looks better; there's a bit more contrast to the colours. :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 24, 2024, 01:56:34 PM
Started on a few fiddly bits. Landing gear doors, wheels and flaps. I need to spray the clear gloss and decal it. I might just finish this yet.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on January 26, 2024, 04:59:56 AM
Love this concept and contrast is working well.  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Buzzbomb on January 26, 2024, 07:09:03 AM
Still looking fabulous.

I wonder if that putty colour variation was due to any oils in the putty leaching out into the absorbent paint ?

I do like the colours it is in now though
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 26, 2024, 01:22:06 PM
At least where I put more silly putty on it still turned it to the same color. The witches brew that is organic chemistry!
At least the wheels and such are on now.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on January 29, 2024, 09:51:25 AM
I sprayed a coat of clear gloss acrylic to get ready for decals. It was the same can of clear I’ve used on other models with other brands of acrylic paint. It went on like a mix of oil and water. It dried very uneven. I’m tempted to strip it and start over. I bought a set of Valejo paints the might work better. Nothing to lose. I’ve put too much work into this project to have it wear a crap paint job.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on January 29, 2024, 06:32:35 PM
Might sound weird, but try washing it with warm soapy water, then rinse & let dry.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 10, 2024, 02:13:00 PM
I’m going ahead with some USMC decals, mostly from a Fujimi Skyhawk kit. It has VMFA-214 Blacksheep squadron markings which seem perfect for this build. The decals are working well and if I leave the micro sol alone its ok. If I touch it the paint itself comes loose. I’ll check in the morning if the ones I’ve put on so far are ok.  This is going to be a learning experience build. So far a list of what not to do with acrylic paint. I’m going to try weathering and adding smoke residue around the gun barrels as the paint in that area is really bad anyway. Probably not just black. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Old Wombat on February 10, 2024, 10:14:15 PM
Neutral Grey followed by a dark grey, very heavily thinned & applied in numerous light layers built up to the colour density you're looking for.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Gingie on February 12, 2024, 01:19:29 AM
You can try using theraputty instead of silly putty. Comes in various viscosities. Check out amazon for a sample size pack. I mixed the extra soft with the soft and found it good but maybe a tad too runny.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 13, 2024, 05:45:58 AM
Thanks for the advice fellas!
I’ve also noticed micro sol appears to penetrate the clear gloss and slightly messes with the Mission Models paint. I’ll check later tonight to see what it looks like. This is the last time I’ll use Mission Model.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 16, 2024, 02:17:29 PM
These decals are so tedious! At least I have one side done.
I’m thinking of doing some weathering on this one. The paint has so many issues that there’s nothing to lose. Something for a low level ocean hugging combat aircraft.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 20, 2024, 12:16:34 PM
Not finished yet but moving along. I've been putting decals on and what a chore! I don't remember it being this tedious before. That and many of them keep breaking apart. Several were so bad I just wiped them off and tried something else. They were not exactly brand new but not super old either. And some of the older ones held up better than the newer. Go figure. Sometimes I think this project has been under a jinx ever since I started trying to paint it.
On the other hand, I experimented with something new in the weathering department. I had some powdered graphite on hand so first I tried applying some with a brush around the gun muzzle area. Not much happened so I started rubbing it in with my finger. I ended up with with a pretty good smoke stained area under the cockpit and around the gun. Not perfect but not bad either. I've sprayed it down with matte acrylic and I'll see about airbrushing the area with some dark gray and black.

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VMA-214 Blacksheep decals from an Fujimi Skyhawk kit.

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So I'll let everything dry overnight then see about some more gun stain. I'm considering an overall light mist of very light gray to make it look faded and salt weathered.
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: apophenia on February 21, 2024, 08:22:59 AM
Nice!  :smiley:

But it does seem like this one is determined to fight you right to end  :o

Glad that you're still going, though. This is an awesome concept  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: finsrin on February 21, 2024, 09:33:52 AM
So unique a concept, really like it.  Many builds present their own flavor of challenges.  Keep up the good work  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 25, 2024, 02:18:13 PM
I was experimenting with some weathering on this build as the paint job has so many flaws it ridiculous. Anything would make it look better. Anyway, I sprayed some thinned flat black down the sides to simulate the smoke from the 30mm gun. It looked good going on but when it dried almost the entire side below the cockpit was black. Looks like less is more in this case. No loss. Need to add the weapons and unmask the canopy and I think this will be done!!  ;D
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: raafif on February 26, 2024, 07:41:52 AM
almost the entire side below the cockpit was black. Looks like less is more in this case.
I keep some old very worn-out wet & dry sandpaper for such events.  Carefully carefully does it  :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 26, 2024, 02:00:36 PM
It looks finished to me!
Here's some pics. Not a contest entry by any means but it turned out ok. The weathering experiment was very educational for me.

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I hope you all enjoy it!
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: GTX_Admin on February 27, 2024, 02:06:16 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Buzzbomb on February 27, 2024, 04:54:13 AM
Well, I think that came out rather well, all in all.

Very novel take on the A-10 so well done :smiley:
Title: Re: A-10 seaplane fighter
Post by: Kerick on February 27, 2024, 05:29:09 AM
My explanation is that this aircraft has seen a lot of action firing the 30mm so that explains the dirt.