Author Topic: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration  (Read 6932 times)

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Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« on: October 15, 2013, 03:14:43 PM »
This sounds sort of silly, but one problem with (in the US) in-line engine development was the fact that fundamentally there wasn't enough demand for them so they developed slowly: I was thinking, could the USAAF have manufactured a demand by basically refitting all the B-10/-12 and so on with V-1710's?
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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2013, 06:07:28 PM »
I am rather tempted to do a B-10 floatplane.
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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2013, 11:19:40 PM »
I am rather tempted to do a B-10 floatplane.


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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2013, 12:35:08 AM »
What the....  Had no idea there was a B-10 floatplane.
Must be one only test bird.

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2013, 03:31:52 AM »

Like this?


Exactly!  I knew I had seen one somewhere.
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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2013, 12:03:18 PM »
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2013, 01:54:07 PM »
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.


Personally I like the draggy look to my '30s era planes but were you thinking perhaps something akin to the Hall XPTBH?



Maybe even give it some inline engines with evaporative/steam cooling...with the cooling panels on the wings?
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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2013, 02:02:56 PM »
Speaking of B-10s...if WWII had begun a few years earlier, perhaps this would have been a sight over europe...with He51s attacking ;)

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2013, 08:37:18 PM »
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.


Personally I like the draggy look to my '30s era planes but were you thinking perhaps something akin to the Hall XPTBH?



Maybe even give it some inline engines with evaporative/steam cooling...with the cooling panels on the wings?


At least for the struts on the floats.  If I was to go with liquid-cooled in-line engines, I'd not go with the evaporative/steam cooling; much too damage susceptible for a combat aircraft.  Might try either something like the P-40's radiator installation or leading edge radiaotrs.  The latter would definitely allow a streamlined installation.

Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2013, 12:04:21 AM »
I have more images of the Hall XPTBH if you need them.


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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2013, 05:39:34 AM »
Can anybody do a B-10 with a V-1710

I refer you once again to suggestions made by GTX to one of your other topics:
Why not start with a sketch of your own (either on paper by hand or electronically using even a basic drawing program such as MS Paint or equivalent or even through taking pits of drawings of/from existing designs) and using those as a starting point.  We certainly won't criticise someone's skill or lack thereof.

This way, you do the work your self (which gives you the satisfaction of creating it), have a better idea of what you are thinking of  and get to practise.  The more you do the better one gets.  Others may then either offer input/advice or even help you with the drawing.
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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2013, 07:57:02 AM »
Forget it, I withdrew the request

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2013, 09:15:35 AM »
Being a B-10 fan there are several Williams Brothers 1/72 B-10B kits in stash.
Among my many kitbashing ambitions is building B-10 models from original (OOB) through various upgrade modernizations to at least 1990s.  Have one upgraded configuration about half figured out with some parts started.
Line up of B-10 configurations over six decades of service would make for an interesting display.

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #13 on: December 20, 2013, 08:22:16 AM »
Hannants has the Williams Bros 1/72 B-10 @ $40 CDN. Includes 16 decal options.
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I am giving up listing them. They all end up on the shelf of procrastination anyways.

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Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2024, 09:00:58 AM »
Bought Special Hobby B-10 at Skyway New Years Day sale.
Having several Williams Brothers B-10B kits good as they are find this to be step up in quality.  Is kit to use for OOB original B-10 build.  Other kits are for procession of B-10 modernizations going at least into 1990s that includes a reduced RCS version which have done basic parts cutting and fitting for.  B-10 versions of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and maybe more.
So many concepts, so little time.