Mikoyan-Gurevich MiG-21 Fishbed

[GTX_Admin]

Random Idea:  Mexican Air Force MiG-21 instead of F-5.  In this scheme:

[Geoff]

YES!!!

[GTX_Admin]

If you want to create a Ye-8 variant but don't have a kit or a conversion, this might be a useful guide for you.

End Result:

[GTX_Admin]

Random Idea:  Mexican Air Force MiG-21

Hey, look what I found:



by Tomás Reyes on DeviantART

[The Big Gimper]

I was putzing around the Internet and found the Omega Chengdu J-7FS-2 kit:





which led me to the Grumman F-7S Sabre II proposal:







And I found this:



So to recap all the cool ideas previously posted in this topic, you could, over many long and dark Canadian winter nights, easily build 10-15 Mig-21 derivatives.  With the Mig-21 being a cheap kit to acquire (< $10).

That is all.

[Volkodav]

Wasn't Grumman involvement in the Super 7 killed off by Western shock at the Tiananmen Square massacre?

[elmayerle]

Wasn't Grumman involvement in the Super 7 killed off by Western shock at the Tiananmen Square massacre?

Yep, as was involvement of some other US companies, such as P&W who had proposed the PW1216 (afterburning late-model J52) as an engine and, IIRC, Westinghouse for the radar.

[The Big Gimper]

Wasn't Grumman involvement in the Super 7 killed off by Western shock at the Tiananmen Square massacre?

Yep, as was involvement of some other US companies, such as P&W who had proposed the PW1216 (afterburning late-model J52) as an engine and, IIRC, Westinghouse for the radar.

There is a page on Wiki-Mis-Leadia-Pedia on the Project Saber II.

[dy031101]

Top: J-7MF
Bottom: The tailless Super MiG-21 from Airforce Delta Storm

[raafif]

Mig-21-FN (Finnish Navy) with wing & tail fold :)

more pics here
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10204932006561402&set=oa.832090650221893&type=3&permPage=1










actually an airfield decoy, folds for truck transport.

[ysi_maniac]

Falcon Fishbed. What do you prefer?

[GTX_Admin]

How about a MiG-21 with wingtip AA-8 (R-60) missiles?

[ysi_maniac]

I prefer small wings version, and you?

[taiidantomcat]

Falcon Fishbed. What do you prefer?

Nice!

like a production version of this:



 

[ChernayaAkula]

^Agree!  :)  This one just BEGS to be built! 

[KiwiZac]

Seconded/thirded! I have a junker F-16 somewhere, and I know where I can get a cheap Academy Fishbed...

[taiidantomcat]

[The Big Gimper]

I like da nose but where does the air go in?

[raafif]

I like da nose but where does the air go in?

movie prop (Poland) - plenty of hot air coming out the director's mouth so you don't need more from aircraft jet-exhausts.

[elmayerle]

I like da nose but where does the air go in?

For show only, obviously produced by the same company that did, in the words of "Uncle Roger" in Flight International the "flight falsies" that were on the prototype F-104A at rollout.

[Goonie]

I like da nose but where does the air go in?

movie prop (Poland) - plenty of hot air coming out the director's mouth so you don't need more from aircraft jet-exhausts.

Maybe it was rocket propelled prototype of cheap air/space fighter

[GTX_Admin]

I wonder if the new 1/48 Trumpeter J-7GB (see below) will provide a useful basis to create a Mi-21-93 or MiG-21 Bison (also below):





MiG-21-93:



MiG-21 Bison:

[elmayerle]

It looks like the MiG-21-93 and MiG-21Bison both retain the original MiG-21 wing planform, not the modified one the Chinese have adopted for the latest J-7 variants.  'Twould be interesting to combine the Chinese wing with either of those other two, though I'd be tempted to keep the trailing edge straight and mount wingtip IRAAM rails.  I may do that for an advanced Ye-8 derivative.

[ChernayaAkula]

I wonder if the new 1/48 Trumpeter J-7GB (see below) will provide a useful basis to create a Mi-21-93 or MiG-21 Bison (also below):
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I'd have to say no. The J-7 is based on the first generation MiG-21, while the 21-93 and Bison are both based on the MiG-21bis (wider intake and wider fin and, of course, original Fishbed wings).
What you could try to do is get the windshield and canopy from the J-7 and try to fit them to an Eduard bis. Although to my eye the 21-93 and Bison canopies appear to be more bulbous than the J-7's.

[elmayerle]

Do note that you can get a reasonable accurate MiG-21-93 kit in 1/72; I say "reasonably accurate" because you'll need to add the chaff/flare dispensers at the wing roots.