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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #50 on: April 22, 2016, 02:12:04 AM »
Modern(ish) Peruvian Halftrack:


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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #51 on: April 22, 2016, 02:34:09 AM »
^ Can't be Peruvian - it's got no Saggers on it! ;D

Dare I suggest a LAV-25 variant half-track? ???


Done!

LAV-25 half-track



LAV-25 three-quarter-track ( :P)

In both cases, the tracks were lifted from an M41 and are not to scale, going for looks only.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #52 on: April 22, 2016, 02:41:56 AM »
^ Can't be Peruvian - it's got no Saggers on it! ;D


Are you going to argue with the guys in the back about it?

Love those LAV Halftracks - they need to be done in plastic!
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #53 on: April 22, 2016, 04:56:46 AM »
The Lav-25 half-track is particularly credible, given that the LAV steers on it's front two pairs of wheels. It would be even better if the drive sprocket was at the front, thereby shortening and simplifying the drivetrain.

The 4x wheels + 2x tracks paradigm gets me wondering. Imagine if the four wheels were at the corners of the vehicle and the tracks in the middle. The wheels would give you the 'lift' neccessary to get over obstacles, which in turn would mean that the tracks' front and rear sprockets wouldn't need to be raised. that would give you more track contact area on the ground. You could put the drive sprocket above the centre of the track, the latter then having a triangular shape, and that would enable you to have it pivot freely around the drive sprocket axle liek the 'walking beam' suspension on the back of ENGASA AFVs and trucks.
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #54 on: April 22, 2016, 04:59:29 AM »
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #55 on: April 23, 2016, 04:01:16 AM »
That's Ob'yekt 19, one of the developments that led to the BMP-1.  The tracks were/are retractable.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #56 on: April 23, 2016, 04:04:28 AM »
And speaking of BMP-1 developments, does Ob'yekt 911 count as a half track?  It had 4 retractable wheels for high speed road travel.



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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #57 on: April 23, 2016, 05:38:42 AM »
And speaking of BMP-1 developments, does Ob'yekt 911 count as a half track?  It had 4 retractable wheels for high speed road travel.

No, it's a 'convertible' just like a number of between the wars experiments.
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #58 on: April 23, 2016, 06:03:36 AM »
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #59 on: April 11, 2018, 02:02:40 PM »
Here's something I cobbled together recently...

Logan's Profiles - SdKfz 231 Halbkettenfahrzeug

(By the way, I'm posting it in multiple threads since you never know where someone might be looking for inspiration months from now.)

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #60 on: May 01, 2020, 02:45:39 AM »
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #61 on: May 02, 2020, 04:49:30 AM »
A different sort of 'halftrack':  the Vickers-Wolseley Wheel Track Tank.  This odd vehicle experimental was designed by Vickers in 1927 on the basis of Wolseley truck. This machine which resembles to armoured car more, tracked however, never was produced in series. It was equipped in front as with the back with a wheeled-unit to allow the vehicle, on road, to travel more quickly and to save its tracks. This vehicle had a crew of 4 men and weighed 7.5 tons. It was propelled by an engine 6 cylindes Wolseley developing 120 hp what enabled it on its wheels to reach the 40 km/h and on its tracks the 24 km/h. The armament consisted of 3 machine-guns .303 (7.7 mm) Vickers with water cooling.




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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #62 on: October 19, 2020, 03:06:55 AM »
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #63 on: October 19, 2020, 03:16:44 AM »
The farmers around here are right into half tracks --

This was at the Massey Ferguson dealership in the little town near my place.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #64 on: September 01, 2021, 01:47:16 AM »
Experimental Tank Destroyer


Turns out it's a T5/ M1 Motor Gun Carriage, 90mm


The first to get underway was the T1 3in Gun Motor Carriage. This mounted a 3in anti-tank gun on a chassis based on the Cleveland Tractor Co high speed tractor, an aircraft towing vehicle used by the USAAF. Work began at the end of 1940, and the T1 was standardized in November 1941 as the M5 3in gun motor carriage.

The M5 was powered by a 160hp Hercules diesel engine. The 3in gun was mounted at the back of the vehicle, with an open gun shield. There was no crew platform, and the crew operated the gun from the ground behind the vehicle.

The resulting vehicle was disliked by Brigadier-General Andrew Bruce, commander of the Tank Destroyer force. He refused to accept the M5 for his tank destroyer battalions, and instead wanted the M3 75mm Gun Motor Carriage, which was based on a half-track personnel carrier. Although work on this project only began in June 1941 it was standardized in October 1941 and was much more popular than the M5. As a result the M5 programme was cancelled before the start of series production.
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #65 on: September 01, 2021, 02:23:23 AM »
Looks like it's lost it's front wheels   ;)

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #66 on: September 01, 2021, 07:39:57 AM »
Based on the Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor, not a half-track.

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #67 on: September 01, 2021, 11:43:32 AM »
Looks like it belongs on the post apocalypse thread.  First time I saw an experimental vehicle loaded down with crapola. :icon_fsm:

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #68 on: September 01, 2021, 12:04:30 PM »
Based on the Cletrac M2 High Speed Tractor, not a half-track.
 

So it is.
https://theironmule.blogspot.com/2017/06/cletracs-m-2-high-speed-tractor.html

How about this - we imagine the lower half is from the M3 halftrack. That's still inspiration, isn't it?

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2021, 02:33:30 AM »
Monogram included a very simple 1/48th scale M2 in their 1/48th B-24.

The Lindbergh 1/48 Northrop Snark also has an M2, it’s far better than
the Monogram version having an actual suspension with separate road
wheels, and tracks etc. rather than the all moulded in one of the Monogram.

Resin and 3D printed versions are available in 1/72nd, 1/48th and 1/35th.
Commander does the only 1/35th in a normal resin kit. $$££€€

The T1 was standardized for production as the M5 3” Gun Motor Carriage, but
didn’t go into production or service because it had already been surpassed in
the role.
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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #70 on: November 20, 2021, 05:03:03 AM »

The Lindbergh 1/48 Northrop Snark also has an M2, it’s far better than
the Monogram version having an actual suspension with separate road
wheels, and tracks etc. rather than the all moulded in one of the Monogram.

Huh. I wonder how many of those tractors were unbuilt, and languished/tossed?
https://archive.aeroscale.net/review/15239/index.htm



I can't even find out what gun was mounted, it's that obscure. Then again, that leaves a lot of latitude for a build.

COMMANDERS models had a 1/35th kit over a decade ago
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/commander-models-1-060-m2-high-speed-tractor-cletrac--359087

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #71 on: November 20, 2021, 05:25:25 AM »
Experimental Tank Destroyer


Naaaaaaaaaaaaaah, couldn't be.... 1949, you say?


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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #72 on: November 22, 2021, 01:35:53 AM »
Anyone recall the resin (3d printed maybe?) set of "bolt on" snow tracks, designed to fit a standard 4x4?

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #73 on: November 22, 2021, 02:32:30 AM »
Anyone recall the resin (3d printed maybe?) set of "bolt on" snow tracks, designed to fit a standard 4x4?


Did you mean these 3D printed track sets?:

Image source - Shapeways > Hephaestus Design Studio > Truck Track Right Side - 1/24 scale

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Re: Halftracks
« Reply #74 on: November 22, 2021, 06:18:56 AM »
Very similar, although something made me think they were 1/35 on a Humvee