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Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« on: September 12, 2013, 10:23:48 PM »
Mathias Carl has shared some images of the Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow 20130826 at Modellversium.de.

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One rather interesting what-if found so far that is based on a Leopard 2A6 with no less than three main guns :)
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Re: Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« Reply #1 on: September 13, 2013, 05:47:51 AM »
One rather interesting what-if found so far that is based on a Leopard 2A6 with no less than three main guns :)


that's based on a photoshopped photo that went the rounds many years ago (1999 I think) ;D

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Re: Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« Reply #2 on: September 13, 2013, 01:01:20 PM »
Could you imagine that turret fitted to a warship, the way the Germans (?) did when they trialed (iirc) the PzH 2000 turret? ;D

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Re: Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« Reply #3 on: September 13, 2013, 01:09:15 PM »
Could you imagine that turret fitted to a warship, the way the Germans (?) did when they trialed (iirc) the PzH 2000 turret? ;D

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Re: Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« Reply #4 on: September 13, 2013, 02:37:19 PM »
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One rather interesting what-if found so far that is based on a Leopard 2A6 with no less than three main guns :)


Looks like it also got a couple of additional roadwheels.  ;D

The Fuchs with Luchs turret and the 8x8 Fuchs with Roland tturret next to it are also pretty cool.
I'm not 100% sure the Fuchs with Luchs turret is actually a whif. :-\ I think there was at least a trials vehicle or mock-up of a Fuchs with a 20mm turret, although I'm not sure whether it was a Luchs turret.
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Re: Modellbauaustellung Marine Technik Schule Parow
« Reply #5 on: September 13, 2013, 02:52:13 PM »
From Wikipedia;

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Manufacturer    Rheinmetall
Specifications
Weight    1,190 kg (2,600 lb) Gun barrel; 3,317 kg (7,310 lb) Gun mount
Length    L/44: 5.28 m (17.3 ft); L/55: 6.6 m (22 ft)
Barrel length    44–55 calibers
Caliber    120 mm
Muzzle velocity    1,580 to 1,750 m/s (5,200 to 5,700 ft/s)
Effective range    4,000 meters (4,400 yd) with DM63[1]; 8,000 meters (8,700 yd) with LAHAT[2]

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Otobreda 127mm/54C
Calibre:    127 mm (5 inch)
Mass of the system:    37500 kg (without ammunition)
Magazine:    66 (ready to fire in three drums)
Mass of one round:    888 mm length shell: 15.44 kg; 665 mm length shell: 31.75 kg
Elevation:    Minimum -15°; Maximum +83°
Range:    ±30 km (100 km with guided VOLCANO ammunition)
Turning limitation:    ±165° from centerline
Rotation speed:    40°/s (with acceleration of 45°/s2)
Elevation speed:    30°/s (with acceleration of 40°/s2)
Cooling:    sea water - fresh water for flushing
Rate of fire:    40 rds/min

This on the old US 5"/38;
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Weight    Mk 12 Gun Assembly: 3,990 lb (1,810 kg)

& this on the old German 12.7 cm SK C/34 (& seems to be gun-&-mount-only as Type XI U-Boat version weighed 4,625 kg (10,196 lbs));
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Weight    3,645 kilograms (8,040 lb)

Unfortunately modern naval guns seem to be calculated as the entire system weight.

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