Author Topic: Vickers Wellesley Ideas and Inspiration (Read 13741 times)

dogsbody · « **on:** October 17, 2013, 10:06:13 PM »

Wellesley's extended canopy.

Chris

Volkodav · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2013, 01:02:39 AM »

I was thinking today that the Wellesley would look great in the Coastal Commands grey & green uppers, white undersides as a patrol / general reconnaissance bomber, or even a torpedo bomber.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:27:35 AM »

Quote from: Volkodav on October 18, 2013, 01:02:39 AM

I was thinking today that the Wellesley would look great in the Coastal Commands grey & green uppers, white undersides as a patrol / general reconnaissance bomber, or even a torpedo bomber.

I am with you there!

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:41:17 AM »

I have long loved the Vickers Wellesley...especially that long wing with weapon pods:

Makes me think of doing a high altitude PR variant. some sort of turbocharger or similar for engine + cameras in pods + PRU Blue all over....

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:43:11 AM »

I also like the variant with the Bristol Hercules engine:

dogsbody · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2013, 02:46:58 AM »

More Wellesley material.

Chris

dogsbody · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2013, 03:10:34 AM »

More.

Chris

father ennis · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:20:40 AM »

WoW !!!!!!! I'm really wanting one now ...

dogsbody · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:50:05 AM »

I have a bit more material, but this is about the best of it.

Chris

Jeffry Fontaine · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:07:41 AM »

Prewar or postwar Wellesley bush plane on floats plying the back routes of the Yukon and Alaska delivering parcels and mail to lonely fur trappers :)

Volkodav · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2013, 08:38:37 AM »

Napier Sabre, dorsal turret, ventral gondola and radar in one of the under wing pods. Maybe a Molins gun in each of the pods and an under fuselage torpedo, does the torpedo run pumping 57mm HE into the AA gunners all the way in.

finsrin · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2013, 09:59:14 AM »

Confession: Over decades of being an aircraft/model enthusiast, never gave Vickers Wellesley a second look. Barely a first look and name was not in my vocabulary.

Thanks to you guys thatz changed. Now find it interesting. Is like a one engine cousin of the B-10.

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2013, 06:15:07 PM »

Thanks for the pictures. The cockpit shots are useful as I can use a P-38 control columns.

Chris · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2013, 06:46:41 PM »

Quote from: Volkodav on October 18, 2013, 01:02:39 AM

I was thinking today that the Wellesley would look great in the Coastal Commands grey & green uppers, white undersides as a patrol / general reconnaissance bomber, or even a torpedo bomber.

Just finished a FAA one circa 1938. That and a couple of Coastal Command ones are posted over on the What If Modellers site

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37728.0.html

dogsbody · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2013, 06:54:36 PM »

A Wellesley on torpedo dropping trials.

Chris

Volkodav · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:53:19 PM »

Quote from: Chris on October 18, 2013, 06:46:41 PM

Quote from: Volkodav on October 18, 2013, 01:02:39 AM
I was thinking today that the Wellesley would look great in the Coastal Commands grey & green uppers, white undersides as a patrol / general reconnaissance bomber, or even a torpedo bomber.

Just finished a FAA one circa 1938. That and a couple of Coastal Command ones are posted over on the What If Modellers site

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,37728.0.html

Just had a look, outstanding, it really suits

Volkodav · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2013, 07:55:57 PM »

Ha ha, and here I was thinking I was being original.

I used to have a Wellesley, not sure if I still do somewhere. I Build it from the box and remember being particularly proud of it although who knows what I would think of my efforts from back then if viewed today.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #17 on:** October 20, 2013, 06:01:37 AM »

I wonder...twin engined Wellesley with glass nose?

Chris · « **Reply #18 on:** October 20, 2013, 06:51:02 PM »

Twin engine Wellesley works quite well.

One of the aviation magazines has just issued a "special" on the Wellington and the first chapter deals with the Wellesley. Hopefully get it tomorrow.

Was thinking of one in desert camo scheme, was then told it actually happened the profile is in the Warpaint profile on the type which I'l hopefully get at Telford

Daryl J. · « **Reply #19 on:** October 21, 2013, 01:44:18 AM »

Conversational aside only: I'd love it if Airfix did the Wellsley in 1:48. It's so unique.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #20 on:** October 21, 2013, 01:56:55 AM »

Quote from: Daryl J. on October 21, 2013, 01:44:18 AM

Conversational aside only: I'd love it if Airfix did the Wellsley in 1:48. It's so unique.

I am with you there! I have two of the Sanger Vacuform kits in 1/48 but would adore an injection molded one.

Weaver · « **Reply #21 on:** October 21, 2013, 02:06:45 AM »

Old idea of mine which I'll get around to one day: Wellington wings on a Wellesley. Three engines and about ten feet more span....

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #22 on:** October 21, 2013, 02:17:25 AM »

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #23 on:** October 22, 2013, 02:38:08 AM »

Quote from: Chris on October 20, 2013, 06:51:02 PM

One of the aviation magazines has just issued a "special" on the Wellington and the first chapter deals with the Wellesley. Hopefully get it tomorrow.

That would be this one I presume?

I will probably buy it as well.

Chris · « **Reply #24 on:** October 22, 2013, 09:55:46 PM »

Yup that's the one Greg. Got it yesterday along with the Junkers company profile "Bookazine". Both very good

Volkodav · « **Reply #25 on:** October 23, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »

They are not a bad series I have a few but need to wait for permission before buying this one or any more......

apophenia · « **Reply #26 on:** October 24, 2013, 10:15:55 AM »

Quote from: Weaver on October 21, 2013, 02:06:45 AM

Old idea of mine which I'll get around to one day: Wellington wings on a Wellesley. Three engines and about ten feet more span....

Not a Wimpy-winged variant but a Wellesley trimotor nonetheless:
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg11593#msg11593

Twin-engined Wellesley
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg11302#msg11302

Tophe did some variations too:
http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=351.msg11478#msg11478

Volkodav · « **Reply #27 on:** October 24, 2013, 09:33:05 PM »

wow how did I miss those?

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #28 on:** October 25, 2013, 02:28:28 AM »

Deserve to be reproduced here in full!

Quote from: apophenia on March 07, 2012, 12:08:03 PM

Thanks lads. Now just a bit of silliness based on the Wellesley...

The first is the Type 294 Wellesley PR Mk III, immediately distinguished by its Rolls-Royce Merlin I engine. But the Type 294 was actually a twin-engined design. Where the observer's cockpit had been, sat a 'slave' Rolls-Royce Kestrel XVI driving a large Bentley blower to boost the Merlin's high-altitude performance.

A less successful Type 294 descendant was the Vickers Wellington (aka 'Twin Wellesley'), a twin-engined bomber. Intended as a fast bomber, the Wellington proved anything but. By the time the Wellington began reaching RAF squadrons in 1937, the type was already obsolete.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #29 on:** October 25, 2013, 02:29:20 AM »

I would have kept the wing containers for cameras. I love your twin engine one though - much better than mine!

Volkodav · « **Reply #30 on:** October 29, 2017, 05:46:34 PM »

I didn't know there were Valom Wellesely kits, maybe this thread needs another look.

arctic warrior · « **Reply #31 on:** October 29, 2017, 11:41:19 PM »

Quote from: GTX_Admin on October 25, 2013, 02:29:20 AM

I would have kept the wing containers for cameras. I love your twin engine one though - much better than mine!

Second this; would be a great colonial/MR long-range PhotoRecce A/C.

Volkodav · « **Reply #32 on:** October 30, 2017, 08:28:16 PM »

I'm imagining Vickers expanding Cockatoo Island Dockyard in Sydney, connecting it to the mainland, probably via Spectacle Island, and establishing an aircraft and engine manufacturing facility on the reclaimed land, the first type produced being the Wellesley.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #33 on:** January 02, 2024, 01:44:54 AM »

What about a civilian one almost akin to the Boeing Monomail?

upnorth · « **Reply #34 on:** January 02, 2024, 01:39:55 PM »

I'm in the midst of reading the book, "Winged Crusaders", which tell the history of RAF's 14 Squadron from its initial formation until the end of WWII:
https://www.pen-and-sword.co.uk/Winged-Crusaders-Hardback/p/3627

I'm at the point in the book where the Squadron has Wellesleys and it's quite interesting to read what that aircraft was like.

At one point, it mentions how they made a field modification to increase the defenses of the aircraft by engineering gun brackets that could fit in the frames of the fuselage windows at the navigator's station. It was quite an effective modification that increased the aircraft's survivability until the squadron was re-equiped with Blenheims.

They also removed the bomb pod doors permanently with no ill effect on the performance of the aircraft.

Putting it in Coastal Command colours, as a someone mentioned earlier, wouldn't be too far off the mark. The Wellesley had very good range and the book details how 14 Squadron trained for coastal patrol during their Wellesley period.

apophenia · « **Reply #35 on:** January 03, 2024, 05:53:14 AM »

Well, ericr's Wellesley & Reaper hybrid in 1/48 needs a mention here:

-- https://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=4100.msg214447#msg214447

ericr · « **Reply #36 on:** January 03, 2024, 04:24:35 PM »

Thanks,
I just felt it could do with longer wings ;-)


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Author Topic: Vickers Wellesley Ideas and Inspiration (Read 13741 times)