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Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: Nexus1171 on October 15, 2013, 03:14:43 PM

Title: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Nexus1171 on October 15, 2013, 03:14:43 PM
This sounds sort of silly, but one problem with (in the US) in-line engine development was the fact that fundamentally there wasn't enough demand for them so they developed slowly: I was thinking, could the USAAF have manufactured a demand by basically refitting all the B-10/-12 and so on with V-1710's?
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 15, 2013, 06:07:28 PM
I am rather tempted to do a B-10 floatplane.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dogsbody on October 15, 2013, 11:19:40 PM
I am rather tempted to do a B-10 floatplane.


Like this?

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4032/35746627615_9fe2d9e887_z.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4073/35359163970_05445f04d2_z.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4265/35359157790_61b45ecced_z.jpg)


Chris

Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on October 16, 2013, 12:35:08 AM
What the....  Had no idea there was a B-10 floatplane.
Must be one only test bird.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2013, 03:31:52 AM

Like this?


Exactly!  I knew I had seen one somewhere.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on October 16, 2013, 12:03:18 PM
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2013, 01:54:07 PM
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.


Personally I like the draggy look to my '30s era planes but were you thinking perhaps something akin to the Hall XPTBH?

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Hall_XPTBH.jpg)

Maybe even give it some inline engines with evaporative/steam cooling...with the cooling panels on the wings?
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 16, 2013, 02:02:56 PM
Speaking of B-10s...if WWII had begun a few years earlier, perhaps this would have been a sight over europe...with He51s attacking ;)

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Martin_B-10B_during_exercises.jpg)
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on October 16, 2013, 08:37:18 PM
I'd like to see a cleaned-up floatplane.  What's in the picture has a lot of built-in drag.


Personally I like the draggy look to my '30s era planes but were you thinking perhaps something akin to the Hall XPTBH?

([url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/52/Hall_XPTBH.jpg[/url])

Maybe even give it some inline engines with evaporative/steam cooling...with the cooling panels on the wings?


At least for the struts on the floats.  If I was to go with liquid-cooled in-line engines, I'd not go with the evaporative/steam cooling; much too damage susceptible for a combat aircraft.  Might try either something like the P-40's radiator installation or leading edge radiaotrs.  The latter would definitely allow a streamlined installation.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: dogsbody on October 17, 2013, 12:04:21 AM
I have more images of the Hall XPTBH if you need them.


Chris
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on October 17, 2013, 05:39:34 AM
Can anybody do a B-10 with a V-1710

I refer you once again to suggestions made by GTX to one of your other topics:
Why not start with a sketch of your own (either on paper by hand or electronically using even a basic drawing program such as MS Paint or equivalent or even through taking pits of drawings of/from existing designs) and using those as a starting point.  We certainly won't criticise someone's skill or lack thereof.

This way, you do the work your self (which gives you the satisfaction of creating it), have a better idea of what you are thinking of  and get to practise.  The more you do the better one gets.  Others may then either offer input/advice or even help you with the drawing.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Nexus1171 on October 17, 2013, 07:57:02 AM
Forget it, I withdrew the request
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on October 17, 2013, 09:15:35 AM
Being a B-10 fan there are several Williams Brothers 1/72 B-10B kits in stash.
Among my many kitbashing ambitions is building B-10 models from original (OOB) through various upgrade modernizations to at least 1990s.  Have one upgraded configuration about half figured out with some parts started.
Line up of B-10 configurations over six decades of service would make for an interesting display.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on December 20, 2013, 08:22:16 AM
Hannants has the Williams Bros 1/72 B-10 @ $40 CDN (http://www.hannants.co.uk/product/WI72510). Includes 16 decal options.
Title: Re: Martin B-10 Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 06, 2024, 09:00:58 AM
Bought Special Hobby B-10 at Skyway New Years Day sale.
Having several Williams Brothers B-10B kits good as they are find this to be step up in quality.  Is kit to use for OOB original B-10 build.  Other kits are for procession of B-10 modernizations going at least into 1990s that includes a reduced RCS version which have done basic parts cutting and fitting for.  B-10 versions of the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, and maybe more.
So many concepts, so little time.