Avia B-534 Ideas and Inspiration

[GTX_Admin]

hi folks,

A thread dedicated to your Avia B-534 Ideas and Inspiration.

[GTX_Admin]

To begin with, what about a carrier version …maybe instead of the Gloster Sea Gladiator.  Maybe in this scheme:

[Old Wombat]

To begin with, what about a carrier version …maybe instead of the Gloster Sea Gladiator.  Maybe in this scheme:

Funny, I had that same idea for the RAM & RAN when trying to work out carrier-based aircraft for the 1918-1938 period.

[elmayerle]

B.534 or Bk.534 fuselage and wings mated to the cantilever and spatted main landing gear of the B.634?  This could make room for a stores rack (bomb or drop tank) on the fuselage centerline.

[upnorth]

It really screams to get the monoplane treatment in the same way Hawker used the Fury as a starting point for the Hurricane.

Perhaps marry up the fuselage of the B.534 series IV to the wings of the B.135.

The landing gears of the B.135 were far enough apart that you could put something on the centreline,

Also, if you keep the four machine guns in the fuselage as the B.534 had them, then the B.135 wing should have enough room for a higher calibre gun on each side.

[Daryl J.]

Floats.  For a Porco Rosso version.

[GTX_Admin]

Floats.  For a Porco Rosso version.

 :)

[ChernayaAkula]

Zeppelin-borne fighter! 

[jcf]

Zeppelin-borne fighter! 

Zeppelin-born is a better image.   

[Daryl J.]

Bush wheels
STOL kit

[GTX_Admin]

Radom ideas:

Latvian or Lithuanian Avias instead of Gladiators:

[GTX_Admin]

Supposedly Germany also took interest in potentially using the B-534 as a carrier-based aircraft.  There's an obscure what if to play with...

[upnorth]

Supposedly Germany also took interest in potentially using the B-534 as a carrier-based aircraft.  There's an obscure what if to play with...

They made three protoypes to test the aircraft's carrier feasibility and found it quite unsuitable.

Interestingly, the aircraft they modified for the carrier prototypes were experimental Bk.534 versions. The Bk.534 was a failed attempt to increase the hitting power of the B.534 by taking out two of the fuselage machine guns and putting in a 20mm cannon that fired through the prop spinner.

[apophenia]

Supposedly Germany also took interest in potentially using the B-534 as a carrier-based aircraft.  There's an obscure what if to play with...

They made three protoypes to test the aircraft's carrier feasibility and found it quite unsuitable.

Interestingly, the aircraft they modified for the carrier prototypes were experimental Bk.534 versions. The Bk.534 was a failed attempt to increase the hitting power of the B.534 by taking out two of the fuselage machine guns and putting in a 20mm cannon that fired through the prop spinner.

Cool! Was that the German-marked '534 we see profiled with a cut-down rear decking?

[GTX_Admin]

One can actually get kits of it:




And some more details:  http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/bk-534g.html

[kitnut617]

It's got a Gladiator look to it

[elmayerle]

Supposedly Germany also took interest in potentially using the B-534 as a carrier-based aircraft.  There's an obscure what if to play with...

They made three protoypes to test the aircraft's carrier feasibility and found it quite unsuitable.

Interestingly, the aircraft they modified for the carrier prototypes were experimental Bk.534 versions. The Bk.534 was a failed attempt to increase the hitting power of the B.534 by taking out two of the fuselage machine guns and putting in a 20mm cannon that fired through the prop spinner.

Cool! Was that the German-marked '534 we see profiled with a cut-down rear decking?

Actually, from what I've read, that was a B.534-III with a bubble canopy replacing the open cockpit.

[jcf]

Supposedly Germany also took interest in potentially using the B-534 as a carrier-based aircraft.  There's an obscure what if to play with...

They made three protoypes to test the aircraft's carrier feasibility and found it quite unsuitable.

Interestingly, the aircraft they modified for the carrier prototypes were experimental Bk.534 versions. The Bk.534 was a failed attempt to increase the hitting power of the B.534 by taking out two of the fuselage machine guns and putting in a 20mm cannon that fired through the prop spinner.

Cool! Was that the German-marked '534 we see profiled with a cut-down rear decking?

The B.534-I through III were open cockpit, IV introduced the built up spine
and full canopy. As Evan stated a closed all-round view canopy, it wasn't
a bubble, was trialed on the III but not put into full production.

[apophenia]

Jon & Evan: Thanks for the canopy explanation 

[GTX_Admin]

This the one you are presumably referring to?



One can get a kit of it (if you think 1/72 is worthy of your time...):

[Old Wombat]

Oddly, Eduard don't seem to do the full-canopy early series B.534's, except in 1/144.

They do this serie IV in 1/72;



And in 1/48;



They do, however, do it in the 1/144 Super44 Quattro Combo kit (4451) – Avia B.534 Early Series



The full-canopy low-back was a variant of the earlier serie III B.534's, before the spine was put in behind the cockpit.


Maybe word should get to Eduard that the full-canopy B.534 serie III would be popular in 1/72 & 1/48 scales?


UPDATE: Checked Eduard's site & came up with this in 1/72, which has the full low-back canopy on the transparencies sprue!


https://www.eduard.com/eduard/avia-b-534-iii-serie-1-72.html

But not on the transparency sprue for this, which has the transparencies for the serie IV's;


https://www.eduard.com/eduard/plastic-kits/profipack/avia-b-534-iii-serie-%28reedition%29-1-48.html?cur=2

[apophenia]

This the one you are presumably referring to?

Yep, that was the one. I suppose this was a simpler solution for an older airframe than building up the rear deck a la the series IV.