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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #175 on: December 11, 2012, 05:47:52 PM »
Taking a slight backwards step, what about a RAF B-17C/Fortress I reengined with Merlins?

Shave blisters etc off and you are on way to a B-17 racer.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #176 on: January 03, 2013, 01:34:07 AM »
Taking a slight backwards step, what about a RAF B-17C/Fortress I reengined with Merlins?
Or do the same to a B-17D and then add the twin-tail and tail-gun installation boeing considered.  The result would look way different.

One question, would the Merlin re-engining keep the turbo-superchargers in addition to the Merlin's superchargers?
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #177 on: January 03, 2013, 05:07:47 AM »
add the twin-tail and tail-gun installation boeing considered.  The result would look way different.

I'm presently doing a retro-Y1B-17 profile &, among other retro-changes I've already made, thought about a twin-tail ... can you post a photo of Boeing's tail design ??  Is it similar to that on the B-10 ?

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #178 on: January 03, 2013, 05:28:19 AM »
raafif, see page two of the thread.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #179 on: January 03, 2013, 09:47:46 AM »
raafif, see page two of the thread.
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oh, I don't like the shape of Boeing's twin-tail :-p,  too rounded to match the rest of the design.

Here's my retro-B-17 ....

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #180 on: January 03, 2013, 09:55:56 AM »
Fabulous  retro :-*
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You discovered the missing link in US bombers  ;)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #181 on: January 03, 2013, 12:18:24 PM »
That almost has to be built.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #182 on: January 03, 2013, 11:50:42 PM »
Stunning!  :-*
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #183 on: January 04, 2013, 02:04:26 AM »
S'cool, personally if I was to build sech a beast I'd go for trousers of the style trialed on the first Monomail in its 221A incarnation:

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #184 on: January 05, 2013, 01:39:18 PM »
WW2 ends early, B-29 not developed.  Post-war isolationism, austerity and the only wars are those in British-controlled colonial Africa & the Mid-East.  This means that the B-17 remains the USA's main bomber till 1975.  No A-Bomb or Cold-War so jet-bombers are not needed as prop-jobs are better for small, low-intensity conflicts .....

Threats in 1968 to the West's oil supplies by more Mid-East unrest has American bombers sent as part of a League of Nations force .....


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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #185 on: January 05, 2013, 10:46:36 PM »
WW2 ends early, B-29 not developed.  Post-war isolationism, austerity and the only wars are those in British-controlled colonial Africa & the Mid-East.  This means that the B-17 remains the USA's main bomber till 1975.  No A-Bomb or Cold-War so jet-bombers are not needed as prop-jobs are better for small, low-intensity conflicts .....

Threats in 1968 to the West's oil supplies by more Mid-East unrest has American bombers sent as part of a League of Nations force .....




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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #186 on: January 08, 2013, 10:06:18 AM »
One question, would the Merlin re-engining keep the turbo-superchargers in addition to teh Merlin's superchargers?

I would imagine pure supercharged...maybe even in power- eggs
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #187 on: January 08, 2013, 10:06:41 AM »
S'cool, personally if I was to build sech a beast I'd go for trousers of the style trialed on the first Monomail in its 221A incarnation:




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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #188 on: January 15, 2013, 10:13:58 AM »
Here's something different.  Wonder if its still there?



No idea about it's history.  Anyone?
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #189 on: January 15, 2013, 11:17:11 AM »
Bomber Gas in Milwaukee, Oregon.
http://www.katu.com/news/local/95638799.html

I stopped by it a few times in the late '70s to mid '80s.

It's still there if you look on Google Maps, Google Earth etc.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #190 on: January 15, 2013, 11:30:20 AM »
The owner crashed his first one not really knowing how to fly it so this bomber is the replacement.   He trucked it in without a permit, and if you know Portland, permits mean almost everything.   

Yes, it's still there.   
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #191 on: January 17, 2013, 03:27:16 PM »
AB-17 spawns idea for GB.  Or just to do it.
Modernize plane/ship/AFV for for some kind of duty (original or otherwise) at a time 20+ years after it was retired from service.
AB-17 is one fine example of that.  :)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #192 on: April 13, 2013, 02:34:40 PM »
An idea for the Beyond '46 GB:

1:72 Academy B-17B, all turrets smoothed over.   Nose becomes a black symetrical radome.  Two canted pylons carrying 1:48 ESCI Harpoon bodies with modified fin shapes to become some early large AGM or ASM.  Convert to twin RR Dart turboprops from the Maquette Dart Hearld. Overall dark green drab with red/orange outer flying surfaces and white TEST decals on the fuselage sides.    Date it 1950s or early 60s.
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #193 on: April 13, 2013, 02:45:22 PM »
An idea for the Beyond '46 GB:

1:72 Academy B-17B, all turrets smoothed over.   Nose becomes a black symetrical radome.  Two canted pylons carrying 1:48 ESCI Harpoon bodies with modified fin shapes to become some early large AGM or ASM.  Convert to twin RR Dart turboprops from the Maquette Dart Hearld. Overall dark green drab with red/orange outer flying surfaces and white TEST decals on the fuselage sides.    Date it 1950s or early 60s.

Right on  :)

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #194 on: April 13, 2013, 02:52:05 PM »
There is no way I can build it during the GB due to professional constraints so it, like every idea of mine, is free for the taking.   :)
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #195 on: April 13, 2013, 03:02:49 PM »
Already have a 46' B-17 concept and parts for it (gotta find em).
Much as I like it or similar, is not for me to build.  Besides,,, better fit-n-finish from many others here at BTS.

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #196 on: April 14, 2013, 12:10:23 AM »
 :)
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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #198 on: August 30, 2013, 04:54:56 PM »
Someone with too much time and money.  Looks very nice but seems to sit a bit low on the ground to me.  Pity the turrets don't work (would have been worth putting some webcams in them and making them controllable from a rear cockpit). 

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Re: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #199 on: September 01, 2013, 03:45:21 AM »
Yeah, too bad he didn't invest in plastic toys. Cuz you know, that's the smartest bestest investment of time and money ever, and have always been perfections of accuracy and action.


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