Beyond The Sprues
General Category => Market Place => New Model Kit News/Reviews => Topic started by: LemonJello on January 21, 2014, 09:41:22 PM
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Just saw the announcement over on Aeroscale: new Taiwanese/Chinese company coming into the market and their planned first release is something quite interesting
1/48 X-47B US Navy UCAS
Link: http://www.freedommks.com/p/blog-page.html (http://www.freedommks.com/p/blog-page.html)
I'll be getting one (at least) of these.
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Yes! You have made my day!
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Interesting subject. Wrong scale though. I'm sure something could be done to make it useful though, in the one true scale of 1/72. ;D ;D
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Interesting subject. Wrong scale though. I'm sure something could be done to make it useful though, in the one true scale of 1/72. ;D ;D
The Platz 1/72 X-47B has been out for some time:
http://www.internetmodeler.com/scalemodels/flaviation/Platz-1-72-X-47B.php (http://www.internetmodeler.com/scalemodels/flaviation/Platz-1-72-X-47B.php)
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Depending on what fuselage is being used in a 1/72 kitbash. Wings from either 1/48 or 1/72 X-47B can be attached.
Cut wings off at black line where wing is blending into center section.
First thing that pops to mind is 1/48 wings on a 1/72 CF-100. Is also Aurora 1/67 CF-100.
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If you were going to do a scale-o-Rama build maybe you could do this or something similar:
(http://www.wired.com/images_blogs/dangerroom/2011/02/northrop_grumman_NGB_bomber_1.jpg)
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Like that suggestion. 1/48 built as 1/72 calculates to 57ft long & 93.5ft wing span.
Penetration/strike type jet.
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Reported mid-April release date for the X-47B:
As seen on Aeroscale: http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=16508 (http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=16508)
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Goodie, goodie, goodie…. :)
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Some details here too (click on image below):
(https://images-blogger-opensocial.googleusercontent.com/gadgets/proxy?url=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F-8cWuXeaJY-Y%2FU0Yu8kG03ZI%2FAAAAAAAA2aE%2FsXeTHsRAgHw%2Fs1600%2Ffd18001%2BFreedom%2BModels%2BX-47B%2B1%2B48tj%2Bscale%2B(1).jpg&container=blogger&gadget=a&rewriteMime=image%2F*) (http://www.themodellingnews.com/2014/04/what-no-pilot-figure-included-freedom.html)
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To supplement Greg's post above we now have a look at the kit contents courtesy of Michael Benolkin at CyberModeler to show us what comes in the box:
Freedom Models 1:48 Scale X-47B UCAS (kit number 18001) (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/free/kit_free_18001.shtml)
Click on html or thumbnail image to view article.
(http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/free/images/free_18001_titletn.jpg) (http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/kits/free/kit_free_18001.shtml)
When this thing actually goes into squadron service with an air wing on a bird farm will the designation be AQ-47B, MQ-47B, or AQM-47B? Or a completely different designation?
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When this thing actually goes into squadron service with an air wing on a bird farm will the designation be AQ-47B, MQ-47B, or AQM-47B? Or a completely different designation?
I could be wrong, but I think the X-47B is not intended to ever get into operational service. AFAIK, it's a pure technology demonstrator. It may be developed further to compete for a USN UCAS tender, though.
"arnobiz" on ARC called it F/A-47 for his VFA-102 build, using the 1/72 Platz kit: LINK (http://www.arcforums.com/forums/air/index.php?showtopic=273724)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7203/13646935424_4eb0c37c09_z.jpg)
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If it was to enter service I think you would see the "MQ" designator used since it would be Multi-role - conducting both Surveillance and Attack roles along possibly with EW and other roles.
In fact, NG are supposedly offering a derivative of their X-47 for the USN Unmanned Carrier-Launched Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) program. This is to develop an aircraft carrier-based unmanned aerial vehicle to provide an unmanned intelligence and strike asset to the fleet. The UCLASS will be "an autonomous aircraft capable of precision strike in a contested environment, and it is expected to grow and expand its missions so that it is capable of extended range intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, electronic warfare, tanking, and maritime domain awareness" - therefore the MQ designator would make sense.
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If it was to enter service I think you would see the "MQ" designator used since it would be Multi-role - conducting both Surveillance and Attack roles along possibly with EW and other roles.
In fact, NG are supposedly offering a derivative of their X-47 for the USN Unmanned Carrier-Launched Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) program. This is to develop an aircraft carrier-based unmanned aerial vehicle to provide an unmanned intelligence and strike asset to the fleet. The UCLASS will be "an autonomous aircraft capable of precision strike in a contested environment, and it is expected to grow and expand its missions so that it is capable of extended range intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, electronic warfare, tanking, and maritime domain awareness" - therefore the MQ designator would make sense.
Fitting that platform with AESA or similar sensors to take over the AEW mission would also be an interesting role. Putting the SENSO team back in the bowels of the CIC would certainly make for a very small and hard to spot target (save for the obvious emissions from the radar).
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A production aircraft shouldn't be a -47 anything as that number is from the X series sequence.
The current highest publicly acknowledged designation for the Q series is RQ-23A.
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Considering that the X-35 begat the F-35, I'm not sure that carries as much weight anymore; pity, that.
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Thus the use of shouldn't. ;)
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I have had some interesting communication from Bryan Chen Manager of Freedom Model Kits. Nothing confirmed yet but there might be an interesting development in the works... 8)
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Oh? Any other little tidbits that you can share?
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It will be a model..of an aircraft...
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New release announced: 1/700 FREMM Aquitaine D650:
(http://www.locmiquelic.org/files/image/rade/fremmrelook.jpg)
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If it was to enter service I think you would see the "MQ" designator used since it would be Multi-role - conducting both Surveillance and Attack roles along possibly with EW and other roles.
In fact, NG are supposedly offering a derivative of their X-47 for the USN Unmanned Carrier-Launched Surveillance and Strike (UCLASS) program. This is to develop an aircraft carrier-based unmanned aerial vehicle to provide an unmanned intelligence and strike asset to the fleet. The UCLASS will be "an autonomous aircraft capable of precision strike in a contested environment, and it is expected to grow and expand its missions so that it is capable of extended range intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance, electronic warfare, tanking, and maritime domain awareness" - therefore the MQ designator would make sense.
Fitting that platform with AESA or similar sensors to take over the AEW mission would also be an interesting role. Putting the SENSO team back in the bowels of the CIC would certainly make for a very small and hard to spot target (save for the obvious emissions from the radar).
I was re-reading this thread and I have to wonder how detectable the emissions would be? Before JSTARS came along, something equivalent to that radar was supposed to be carried behind the line of battle by a stealthed aircraft for which Tacit Blue was the concept test bed. I could see something similar for a LPI air-search radar carried by a UCLASS. It would be a specialized derivative, but I can visualize what it might look like.
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Freedom announce new 1/48 F-20:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-ttGAyZ1dBaI/VQjJxXwqZkI/AAAAAAABaMo/GVEqH64LV3E/s1600/Freedom%2BModels%2Bnorthrop%2BF-20%2Btigershark%2B(8).jpg)
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Beautiful!! It looks like they got the final nose shape down quite well. Could be a great start for crossing with a F-5F to make a F-20B or with a F-5B to make a TF-20. Or with a mix of both to produce a 3-seat rapid communications aircraft (with tip tanks and drop tanks on all hardpoints - could be interesting to see in Special Air Wing markings).
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It will be interesting to see how this compares to the relatively cheap and plentiful Monogram kit
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Oh this is very nice, very tempting, especially with my Alt ADF RAAF reserve and Army Aviation ideas.
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A couple of extra shots - no significant details at this stage yet apart from the reported release date of June/July 2015:
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-BHApsyU4VxM/VQjJxTv4YpI/AAAAAAABaMk/O9KW0q0OQQE/s1600/Freedom%2BModels%2Bnorthrop%2BF-20%2Btigershark%2B(5).jpg)
(http://1.bp.blogspot.com/--8X6d2KPq9k/VQjJxa-OuNI/AAAAAAABaMs/tOHBsr-x9iQ/s1600/Freedom%2BModels%2Bnorthrop%2BF-20%2Btigershark%2B(7).jpg)
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Almost enough to make me start building 1/48 :o
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Almost enough to make me start building 1/48 :o
Come to the dark side...
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Almost enough to make me start building 1/48 :o
Come to the dark side...
Don't do it!!! The cookies are a lie. All you get is Chloroform and probes!
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Almost enough to make me start building 1/48 :o
Come to the dark side...
I've been buying them for several years, I just haven't built any yet. Maybe I could start one for the all things floaty GB to join the three 1/700 and one 1/72 projects I have under way already.
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Box art:
(http://aeroscale.kitmaker.net/photos/news/20083/fd18002-boxart_01.jpg)
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Dribble dribble drool drool :-*
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New one that is really exciting (well, to me at least): This will be released in November 2015.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpt1/t31.0-8/12087646_1174621282553526_2582964241347319199_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/t31.0-8/12068592_1174621269220194_6147893916301289136_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xta1/t31.0-8/12029746_1174621312553523_1067926981969327016_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xta1/t31.0-8/12132528_1174621342553520_194793777874311997_o.jpg)
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And one for the shipbuilders: To be released this month.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/12029810_1172754086073579_1789195347566001230_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/12029626_1172753889406932_7250791379054351488_o.jpg)
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How is this for a cool rendition of the new F-20A:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/12119023_1174619432553711_6170628117284919642_n.jpg?oh=637a725ad10cf69617b2b3ca1aabcf4f&oe=569A4ACE&__gda__=1453274020_a98a9405b5429ecc7f61451ecf15bd2e)
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F-20N :)
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The two seater.... 8)
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That German F-20 looks niiiiiice! :-*
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Hi everyone,
I represent Freedom Model Kits. Here to answer questions and tell you about our new products.
If you're a shop or distributor wishing to stock our models then please send me a PM and I will get back to you.
Our releases so far:
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/18001%20X-47B001_zpsvgreydlv.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/MW14.jpg_zpsrpgvwgt5.png)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/MW15_zpsehwkvrw9.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/10448205_1450617821885583_2507420200131697912_n_zpsigndqpb5.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/FD18002%20Boxart_01_zpsxslati7j.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/Boxart%202_zps6rr7rupz.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/12118780_927811960632659_7237202924497086673_n_zpsn8cstk5n.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/12074544_927811817299340_446883913923632852_n_zpsf3isopsw.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/10357534_927811810632674_5119741094674437077_n_zpssuduq7vb.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/IMG_4940_zpsfttjdjgi.jpg)
(http://i197.photobucket.com/albums/aa255/koenigs_tiger/FMK/FD83001_FREMM%20D650_B01-03_zpsuw7by4kt.jpg)
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Hi Martin,
You made my day with the 1/48 X-47B and continued to make me happy with the upcoming 1/48 F-20N.
Any hints as to what else may be in the future?
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Please Martin, more 1/700 modern warships please. Love the fact Freedom is doing so many unusually topics, keep it up.
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Hi Guys,
I am so pleased that you like the models.
Is there somewhere I can market the warships series? I can't seem to find anywhere interests in them.
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1/48 X-47B sized right for kitbash as 1/72 manned.
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Is there somewhere I can market the warships series? I can't seem to find anywhere interests in them.
What do you mean Martin - to talk about the Freedom Models warships series or something else? If the former, this is the right thread.
PM me if you need to discuss further to clarify.
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Hi Guys,
I am so pleased that you like the models.
Is there somewhere I can market the warships series? I can't seem to find anywhere interests in them.
Probably start with Model Warships.com
http://www.modelshipgallery.com/index1.html (http://www.modelshipgallery.com/index1.html)
They link to a stack of manufacturers and dealers as well as having a huge gallery of members work.
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F/A-20C single seat version with a ventral side full of fireworks and a wrap around green cammo scheme due soon.
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F/A-20C single seat version with a ventral side full of fireworks and a wrap around green cammo scheme due soon.
Is that a new kit coming (They currently do a A model and a B/N model) or one of your own builds?
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Speaking of new kits, there is this (which will appear in the new Hero Models range):
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13238968_1334797003202619_3197829992790730710_n.jpg?oh=9f27480cc5b9d7949681b78cca8528e7&oe=57C3F0D1)
(https://scontent-lax3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13239120_1334797036535949_5562713611062437821_n.jpg?oh=0082618e1879997cdb63247623ebc812&oe=57D20B4C)
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New.
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Details??
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Rebox of the F-20A, likely different weapon choices, different markings. That's all I know. The link to Facebook seems to be gone.
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https://hlj.com/product/RDAFRE18004 (https://hlj.com/product/RDAFRE18004)
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Ooh, I like the look of that!
(https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/rda/rdafre18004_0_1465274089.jpg?v=1465274089)
(See Daryl J.'s post above.)
Whif in a Box (even says so on the box) & in the true One-True-Scale!
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Oh goodie!!!!
I did see reference to the F-20C in the instructions that came with their F-20B/N kit but wasn't sure if it was a definite release. This now looks likely.
I wonder if this will come with a bigger wing?
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Oh goodie!!!!
I did see reference to the F-20C in the instructions that came with their F-20B/N kit but wasn't sure if it was a definite release. This now looks likely.
I wonder if this will come with a bigger wing?
One can but hope! It looks like they are using the inflight refueling fit from the CF-5A rather than what was fitted to the "Shoski Tigers" by the USAF (different side of the aircraft). I have a 1/48 conversion kit for a CF-5A I was planning on using on a Monogram F-20A kit.
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I'm very interested to see what decals they might include with this whiff (I love their use of the "WHIF" markings on this and the F-20B/N BTW).
I think the following would be a good start:
Israel
Taiwan
West Germany
New Zealand
Saudi Arabia
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I'm very interested to see what decals they might include with this whiff
It looks like options included are RoCAF, Brazil, USAF (Hill AFB - Euro and Desert schemes) and no new wing...
(https://d2ev13g7cze5ka.cloudfront.net/rda/rdafre18004_1_1465274090.jpg)
I will also be keeping an eye on this one, having resisted thus far to grab any of the previous two releases. High chances my will... will break with this boxing :D
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F-20A, N and now C? Tough choices to be made!!!!!
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Looking at this, I think that unfortunately there is no big wing:
(http://d13z1xw8270sfc.cloudfront.net/origin/289120/reedom_1_48_f_a-20c_tighershark_fd18004_sincerehobby-1.jpg)
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Looking at this, I think that unfortunately there is no big wing:
As this is a very nice 'what-if', why not put a bigger wing on it, XF-17 or even a modified F-18 wing ---- ???
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Does someone have images comparing the F-20 normal wing vs the big wing?
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Not yet; we'll likely need to wait on Tony Chong's Northrop book for that.
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Not yet; we'll likely need to wait on Tony Chong's Northrop book for that.
Cool. My copy is enroute. Will share said images when it arrives.
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I have seen a drawing before but I can't seem to find it at the moment.
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Two new ones:
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b533/Rumormonger1/Ching%20Kuo%202_zpspewey6dc.jpg)
(http://i1290.photobucket.com/albums/b533/Rumormonger1/Ching%20Kuo%201_zpsoirdnhsz.jpg)
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Another:
(https://s12.postimg.org/ez3v0wg59/BF2_C.jpg)
(https://scontent-amt2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/14915371_1510407348974911_3448367460409955041_n.jpg?oh=ad66a1efe7f5d34c4a419bd54929b3d4&oe=58CBB5DD)
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Interesting, however the ROCAF Hawk IIIs were not the same as the USN BF2C-1.
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New 1/48 F-CK-1s:
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17621828_1349321615148356_1501199561686469329_o.jpg?oh=cd3b14358bbb6e998fd001802bb6170e&oe=595AC194)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/17632393_1349321621815022_2178346636199291954_o.jpg?oh=837e5d77c08dccf7fc22f5379a1f443e&oe=59921E08)
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In that first picture, are the F-CK-1A's going into the merge against JMSDF P-3's?
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In that first picture, are the F-CK-1A's going into the merge against JMSDF P-3's?
Interesting how the picture changed. First PLAAF Tu-16s and then later JMSDF P-3s... ;)
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That's weird....are the FAKE NEWS stations not covering some Taiwanese-Japanese conflict we don't know about?!
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More likely the PRC telling the ROC to pull its head in.
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Limited edition versions:
(https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18341806_10154460339439147_6365652576990202172_n.jpg?oh=bc0075bdc31c2da5e9339aafd92d5c99&oe=59C20D33)
(https://scontent.ftxl1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/18447010_10154460339459147_8727756574739735712_n.jpg?oh=6d216995da7c08212c2d7218947c509c&oe=59B5487A)
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That's some seriously cool boxart. I like it.
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More likely the PRC telling the ROC to pull its head in.
Freedom Models is a Taiwan company, not PRC.
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More details on this one that was mentioned a while back:
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18738827_1406829116064272_6208385932523439598_o.jpg?oh=2a2cdfc4788f56bba88c8f0be97233e8&oe=59A18FB1)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18738423_1406829119397605_45889680674443041_o.jpg?oh=725d1fe59abd8d6ed732a01369965cf1&oe=59B673A5)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18672945_1406829122730938_5931377081984443427_o.jpg?oh=efd2a5c9d4dfdc4ba002f262978459d7&oe=59A72CB7)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18672888_1406829209397596_4661403400316294348_o.jpg?oh=d1e4748e70e73ede94c5b9a9be1e844a&oe=59B38222)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18595546_1406829186064265_3865633742868191466_o.jpg?oh=7296f2a0d0ad10c1d5b78ec8f7fea4e0&oe=59B2A451)
(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/18595571_1406829222730928_7747359295811134230_o.jpg?oh=49fd02e92e18b12cf91eabac59a508bd&oe=59AB34D5)
Always liked the look of these birds. Might do one in RN FAA scheme.
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Always liked the look of these birds. Might do one in RN FAA scheme.
Me, too. That sounds inspired.
Cheers,
Logan
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(https://scontent-syd2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/26167648_10155056375029147_3127844403607040775_n.jpg?oh=013bbbad67d224b9083de3fa5585cd72&oe=5AC61E30)
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Oh, bugger! Another Tracker for the stash! :o ;)
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That I would do as a ground attack aircraft.
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(http://www.kitmaker.net/photos/news/29233/01.jpg)
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(https://www.kitmaker.net/photos/news/30142/f1.jpg)
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Some cuties:
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46492760_2067347860012391_5027648906645733376_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=b985b5b9e44ddff1d046c697dc9e6d43&oe=5CAEB904)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46488501_2067347830012394_6203848614305857536_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=ebd247fdfb0e306eac1fc9a7d9cb0fe5&oe=5C6B23D9)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46488301_2067347766679067_7514995563046109184_o.jpg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=278d2cadb0d3c0ab95a15d5d83301975&oe=5CB24B5E)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46495259_2067347760012401_6701453109924724736_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=51860b3476bcebab15b1e15afb19acea&oe=5CAFCD3D)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46503970_2067347736679070_6502540869365661696_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=17b92f31e5194a459b37be024f3c9f00&oe=5C6AE7BF)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/46147279_2058008117613032_6050602248449294336_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=b85467b559c47ba5de824828e7ad2a9d&oe=5CA94F7D)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/45672293_2051214428292401_4437120929562099712_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=0368586f3a13bd0a46a852b17d3003b9&oe=5C72B8F7)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/44197854_2014605491953295_7062950671753936896_o.jpg?_nc_cat=105&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=57413b6a77dbf218f5d98854ef9440f0&oe=5C803D52)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/41961975_1976252805788564_6502294303883132928_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=25782315b7c4d8684747a675bdf13381&oe=5C7ED3F7)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39580483_1938945689519276_7687749502857379840_o.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=7901311f3372e4b2a6f484a1bf2ed99c&oe=5C6B4720)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39134973_1929423157138196_4975949307266990080_o.jpg?_nc_cat=102&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=e6d69055dbaab519b7a267cba37e7c48&oe=5C641A09)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/39060306_1926194710794374_2138708918145122304_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=e5b5b02c7cafd390f4a2589f8d1241c2&oe=5C6E0440)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32508363_1776875872392926_8993825997891567616_o.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=b41c3ac0101d6835bdf06ca4ce7cde74&oe=5C6E3F1A)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/32588582_1776875832392930_5082836470440394752_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=ed2254cb4ceb216dae2cf755941bc2f2&oe=5C7EF5E0)
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Some others:
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42458272_1984750018272176_713634079228035072_o.jpg?_nc_cat=103&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=4ee74d51bef33c74a3ece51346b73cec&oe=5C7CC795)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/42530100_1984750011605510_7526089532291153920_o.jpg?_nc_cat=111&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=1c56b31f9b28b1eb1a1fb72981e69cf5&oe=5C66F4F3)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40579062_1959144627499382_1041915373307297792_o.jpg?_nc_cat=108&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=9b5588d32a3885ce77986d0838c1725c&oe=5C69F965)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40613452_1959144600832718_8865768373980495872_o.jpg?_nc_cat=110&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=f77654a74539cfa510569d5f97d6fadd&oe=5CB09941)
(https://scontent.fbne5-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40607158_1959154824165029_276175330664775680_o.jpg?_nc_cat=104&_nc_ht=scontent.fbne5-1.fna&oh=4841bf90e38b72723537dea9152c8de7&oe=5C6F1FC8)
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Those aircraft are hilarious! And the IFVs are very interesting.
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I'm sure I could rationalise a C-119 and a MiG-21! I love them all!
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Some serious Sci Fi whiffing shapes in those aircraft.
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Maybe tiny drones?
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For some reason, I see them with Minion crews:
(https://planetminion.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/03/81.jpg)
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It's weird but I think I have the toy that minion is sitting in in the "Things I'll find something to do with" box in the shed. :-\
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(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/FD15105_4.jpg?t=1556968670)
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Too bad it isn't in 1/72 scale. I lived in the Chicago area back in the day, and the city was surrounded by a belt of Hercules batteries until the 60s. If you know what you are looking for, you can see you can spot some of the few remaining buildings.
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Wonder if they will do an alternate marking version for Japanese usage?
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Too bad it isn't in 1/72 scale. I lived in the Chicago area back in the day, and the city was surrounded by a belt of Hercules batteries until the 60s. If you know what you are looking for, you can see you can spot some of the few remaining buildings.
Funny how you can drive by a building or property in the city or town everyday and not know it is a military base. One time when I was still in the UK, I was sent to do a job in a Quarter Master's building, I was given an address and was surprised to see it was something I pass almost everyday. All you see from the road was a very tall, continuous, red brick wall. There was no real indication that it was a military base because at the entrance you went in a gate and had to turn sharply to the right, the brick wall having a joggle right there so you couldn't see inside. Anyway, once checked in I was instructed to follow a perimeter road until I found the Quarter Master's Store and I wasn't escorted either. But the surprise was what the facility was -- a massive fuel dump --- I've never, ever seen so many jerry cans in one place in my life and around the perimeter road were helicopter landing pads, which had those large barrel shaped rubber bladder type fuel tanks that the helicopters would carry. Another amazing thing was, I was left to myself the whole week I was there --
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I guess they figured you weren’t going to fill up your vehicle with JP4!
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Well it was an Army base, I think the jerry cans were full of gasoline --- they were all stacked on the large shipping pallets you see getting loaded into C-130's and such, and then each stacked pallet was stacked on top of each other until they were about four high (IIRC but it could have been three high) And there were thousands of them --
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Well it was an Army base, I think the jerry cans were full of gasoline --- they were all stacked on the large shipping pallets you see getting loaded into C-130's and such, and then each stacked pallet was stacked on top of each other until they were about four high (IIRC but it could have been three high) And there were thousands of them --
I doubt they were full. There are special storage regulations for full Jerry Cans and bladders, in case of "cooking off". Downunder, we use natural gullies as much as possible as bunds to prevent the spread of fire if one dump catches alight.
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Well it was an Army base, I think the jerry cans were full of gasoline --- they were all stacked on the large shipping pallets you see getting loaded into C-130's and such, and then each stacked pallet was stacked on top of each other until they were about four high (IIRC but it could have been three high) And there were thousands of them --
I doubt they were full. There are special storage regulations for full Jerry Cans and bladders, in case of "cooking off". Downunder, we use natural gullies as much as possible as bunds to prevent the spread of fire if one dump catches alight.
Quite possible Brian, just remembered something else, there were large pipelines running around the helipads too, so the fuel must have been stored somewhere. Also I had heard that it was for emergencies, like when we got gasoline rationed back in the 70's. (we didn't get to use the ration cards but everyone who had a current logbook got them, I had four logbooks ;) )
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Bulk fuel storage in small containers makes no practical sense considering the shelf-life on untreated fuel would require constant change out of the container contents to maintain fuel that is "fit for consumption/combustion." Also the stacking of cans as described would indicate that these containers were empty. Also stacking containers of fuel in small containers has limitations on how high the stack can safely be stored. The further the fall, the greater the chances of breaking a can on the weld seams if full of fuel.
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Depending upon when you saw them, the jerry cans may have made sense. I understand that until the Alvis Stalwart UBRE (Unit Bulk Refuelling Equipment) was introduced in 1975 for fast combat refuelling of all vehicles but in particular the larger armoured MBT's and APC's of the British Army, the only real alternative in the field was jerry cans. I may be wrong here though.
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Depending upon when you saw them, the jerry cans may have made sense. I understand that until the Alvis Stalwart UBRE (Unit Bulk Refuelling Equipment) was introduced in 1975 for fast combat refuelling of all vehicles but in particular the larger armoured MBT's and APC's of the British Army, the only real alternative in the field was jerry cans. I may be wrong here though.
That's been my understanding, too.
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Depending upon when you saw them, the jerry cans may have made sense. I understand that until the Alvis Stalwart UBRE (Unit Bulk Refuelling Equipment) was introduced in 1975 for fast combat refuelling of all vehicles but in particular the larger armoured MBT's and APC's of the British Army, the only real alternative in the field was jerry cans. I may be wrong here though.
That's been my understanding, too.
It was around 1975 that I went to that fuel dump too ----
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Generally, most fuel would be stored in bulk for the reasons given. However, on operations, bulk fuel has considerable transport and safety problems associated with it. It is much easier to decant it into jerry cans and issue the jerry can with fuel as a single unit, receiving back empty ones in return, which are in turn, refilled.
Generally, we tended to store unfilled jerry cans on pallets, one or two levels high. Filled ones were stored on pallets only one level high. Bladders were stored on the ground, surrounded by a low bund, about two feet high, to direct leakages and to prevent the spread of burning fuel.
I've served on refuelling points where decanting occurred. We were issued with gasmasks and relieved every four hours, otherwise we became "happy" from the fuel fumes and a danger to ourselves and the fuel depot. All cigarettes/lighters/matches were confiscated at the start of a shift. Once you were off shift, you were directed to the showers and given a change of uniform, to prevent skin problems from the fuel soaking into clothing. It was not my favourite or anybody else's duty, I can assure you. Even Ammo point was preferred.
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(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/FD15102.jpg?t=1545654137)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15102 (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15102)
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(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/FD15103.jpg?t=1545651628)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15103 (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15103)
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(https://d26qn1y84zs32g.cloudfront.net/pics/FD15104.jpg?t=1545651643)
https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15104 (https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/FD15104)
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That box-art looks quite familiar.... Hmmmm....
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/03/AMX-10-RC.JPG/1024px-AMX-10-RC.JPG)
SOURCE (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AMX-10_RC)
???
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So, the guy in the yellow sweater, who's he actually signaling too ???
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So, the guy in the yellow sweater, who's he actually signaling too ???
Bloke in air ops who handles the take off?
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So, the guy in the yellow sweater, who's he actually signaling too ???
Bloke in air ops who handles the take off?
I thought that was the other way around ???
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The Rainbow Wardrobe
Yellow
Aircraft handling officers
Catapult and Arresting Gear Officers
Plane directors
https://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/carriers/rainbow.asp (https://www.navy.mil/navydata/ships/carriers/rainbow.asp)
But who is he signalling to? Skynet Junior?
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Probably the guy right behind him handling the drone.
(https://fighterjetsworld.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/gettyimages-168745230-1516913666.jpg)
Pic from THIS ARTICLE (https://fighterjetsworld.com/air/see-how-us-navy-controls-x-47b-drone-with-cyborg-robotic-arm/4814/), which also has video of an X-47 taking off, including signalling shooter.
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That would explain it :smiley:
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(https://kitmaker.net/photos/news/33651/roca.jpg)
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(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/2/5/9/1284259-14481-15-pristine.jpg)(https://www.scalemates.com/products/img/2/6/0/1284260-14481-68-pristine.jpg)
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More to the last:
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(https://i.ibb.co/7rs2Kk4/160214770-3944421598971665-7563198150524039089-o.jpg)
(https://i.ibb.co/Lnn9cP0/161599350-3944421688971656-3567437759299811171-o.jpg)
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I really like the Vietnam tribute scheme.
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I'm surprised they haven't done one more like a T-38/F-5B from the bulkhead behind the cockpit(s) forward. That does look nice, though, with some attractive schemes.
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(https://i.ibb.co/ZSWFLKt/225241363-4369294583151029-6272387750450649051-n.jpg)
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(https://i.ibb.co/kHGTQPr/234859850-4403057359774751-5628489941267127762-n.jpg)