Panther tank and Jagdpanther

[raafif]

the Germans were experimenting with compound armour skirts - steel-concrete-wood layers in late '44/mid '45.  A few Panthers were fitted with mounts supposedly to take these but the same mounts were also fitted to other tanks to fit pontoon floatation devices for crossing rivers to Russia.

[GTX_Admin]

What might an ERA have done for a Panther tank?

See earlier post in this thread:

and here's an upgraded version by our very own Wyrmshadow:

[raafif]

In late 1940s, the Israeli high command considered starting production of modified Panthers but it was never realized.

[ysi_maniac]

What if germans copied T-34 to produce a tank more german?

[Mig Eater]

Something on my todo list, Flakpanther II with the Krupp 5.5cm turret, extra anti-air armour & maybe some Tiger II tracks.

[Mig Eater]

Random idea:  Panther with Oscillating Turret.  Maybe even just use a turret from an AMX-13 and say that it was either a testbed vehicle or an upgrade?

Found this randomly on Reddit awhile ago, I quite like the concept & might try 3D printing it in the future.

[ysi_maniac]

What if germans copied T-34 to produce a tank more german?

2nd iteration 

[Story]

Saw this, thought "why?"
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/paper-panzer-productions-35008p-panther-mystery-brackets--939279

Found this on Reddit
This Panther A was found on a scrap yard in Eastern Europe. It has been sitting in a swamp for 40 years, and was later restored for the Littlefield Collection. When it was found, it sported six brackets on the sides of its hull. Their purpose is unknown. Suggestions are that they were attachment pointa for floatation devices similar to Allied DD tanks, or that they could take Wurfrahmen 40. There is also a picture of a Tiger 1 with those brackets.

[raafif]

These brackets were for mounting special armour skirts.  Seems the Germans did experiment with sandwich armour - concrete-sand-steel.

[Story]

These brackets were for mounting special armour skirts.  Seems the Germans did experiment with sandwich armour - concrete-sand-steel.

Source, please

[raafif]

I'll have to did it out of my old computer but I'm sure it came from a post on Missing Links some ears ago.

[raafif]

Can't find the article now as their forums have changed ISPs - attached some pics I saved from 2014.
some info here - https://www.track-link.com/forums/news_industry/44287

Pic of text below was saved in my old text files.  Sounds to me that someone is paraphrasing what the Polish worker's daughter said as HEAT projectiles etc were later than WW2.  But experiments with sandwich armour using concrete & wire-mesh makes sense.

Reliable research from Germany says that the initial purpose of Schurtzen was to defeat the Russian high-velocity anti-tank rifle.  Zimmeritt was to defeat the Russian "sticky bombs" (Bovington Museum said the zim on their tank was cancer-causing - contained asbestos etc).

Most likely these brackets were fitted to trial floating Panthers across rivers in Russia or to indeed fit wooden or composite Schurtzen against various RPG type weapons.  See pic of Pz-38t so fitted with floats below.
Panzer Art do a set for the wooden "zigzag armour" (not really believable -too modern) quite a few other German tanks (Pz-III & Pz-IV) used logs or planks.

[raafif]

This panther was rebuilt in France after the war by a junkyard owner.