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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #75 on: September 23, 2017, 12:35:02 PM »
Wow! Great! :-*

But I think this may be different from my example: the advertisement was speaking of a future "liner", which does not mean "toy" but airliner at reduced scale, so referring to a future wonder transporting passengers... ;)

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #76 on: October 09, 2017, 04:04:05 AM »
"Super car" (also named "Superbus") Pathé Marconi.
It was a mobile recording studio, audio equipement exhibition, lounge, and there was even a stage on the roof for musical performance. France 1952 (retired in 1959)
It takes place now in Mulhouse train museum (because of it size).

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #77 on: October 09, 2017, 05:24:44 AM »
I could see the basic concept being used to make the ultimate RV (Ford Esplanade, Cadillac Estate DeVille, Peterbilt Plantation, et al.)

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #78 on: October 09, 2017, 01:55:13 PM »
They've been looking at similar designs over the last 30 years in an attempt to make semi's (semi-trailers/articulated trucks/etc.) more fuel efficient, especially on long hauls, but don't seem to have gotten anywhere.
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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #79 on: October 09, 2017, 08:57:00 PM »
They've been looking at similar designs over the last 30 years in an attempt to make semi's (semi-trailers/articulated trucks/etc.) more fuel efficient, especially on long hauls, but don't seem to have gotten anywhere.
About the only approaches I've seen on the road, here, are streamlined front ends, efforts to reduce turbulence and drag under the trailer, and efforts to reduce the trailer base drag.  Of course, these last two have the advantage of being retrofitable to existing trailers.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #80 on: October 10, 2017, 12:02:17 AM »
They've been looking at similar designs over the last 30 years in an attempt to make semi's (semi-trailers/articulated trucks/etc.) more fuel efficient, especially on long hauls, but don't seem to have gotten anywhere.
About the only approaches I've seen on the road, here, are streamlined front ends, efforts to reduce turbulence and drag under the trailer, and efforts to reduce the trailer base drag.  Of course, these last two have the advantage of being retrofitable to existing trailers.

Most of the research from the prototype concept vehicles hasn't made it to the road as product, as far as I can tell.
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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #81 on: October 10, 2017, 12:28:07 AM »
Elon Musk / Tesla will on November 16 introduce the all-electric Semi-Tractor.  Nice streamline design as there is no requirement for engine air or cooling infrastructure.

https://electrek.co/2017/10/03/is-this-our-first-glimpse-of-the-tesla-semi-truck/

May look like this:



Prototype was spotted a few day ago:


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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #82 on: October 10, 2017, 06:57:54 AM »
Electric engines (and sometimes, batteries) do need cooling - its usually passive cooling or if active liquid cooling is required, the radiators are much smaller.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #83 on: October 11, 2017, 12:53:24 AM »
Electric engines (and sometimes, batteries) do need cooling - its usually passive cooling or if active liquid cooling is required, the radiators are much smaller.

Very often nowadays.  In fact, the Tesla batteries are cooled, as can be seen here.
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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #84 on: October 11, 2017, 01:37:53 AM »
I've always like Luigi Colani's various takes on the subject:
http://wonderfulthingsdaily.blogspot.com/2006/12/concept-trucks-by-luigi-colani.html

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #85 on: October 11, 2017, 02:00:04 AM »
You don't want lithium batteries to get hot.They don't react nicely to heat.


I haven't seen that view of the Luigi Colani Truck before  :-*

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #86 on: October 11, 2017, 02:51:11 AM »
I remember a futuristic tractor-trailer combo that appeared in Car Model back in the late 1960's, the tractor was a much reworked Silouette trailer with the turbine engine from Revell's parts packs and the trailer was scratchbuilt.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #87 on: October 11, 2017, 11:47:48 PM »
Then there's the Labatt's Streamliner beer truck from 1947:




That's dead sexy.



Still exists, too.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #88 on: October 12, 2017, 02:47:50 AM »
Or the International Harvest Jungle Yacht from 1937...
Jungle Yacht by cacree, on Flickr

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #89 on: October 14, 2017, 02:06:59 AM »
What's happening between the tractor and trailer on that Yacht? Looks like smooth metal, but I'm sure it's just an over enthusiastic illustrator. It has to be something like the accordion bellows you see on some long busses or trolley cars.

Paul

Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #90 on: October 14, 2017, 02:43:52 AM »
In fact it's just a gap. But the end of the trailer is rounded and can turn. The end piece of the truck is empty space where the rounded front of the trailer moves.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #91 on: October 14, 2017, 03:34:18 AM »
What's happening between the tractor and trailer on that Yacht? Looks like smooth metal, but I'm sure it's just an over enthusiastic illustrator. It has to be something like the accordion bellows you see on some long busses or trolley cars.
Or the bellows sections between vestibules of railway passenger cars.  Orange County,  CA had some trailer buses hauled by tractors and I always thought that a cab with camper connected to the trailer by such a bellows would make the basis for a great super-sized RV.

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Re: Inspiration for yesterday's tomorrow
« Reply #92 on: October 18, 2017, 03:41:45 AM »
In fact it's just a gap. But the end of the trailer is rounded and can turn. The end piece of the truck is empty space where the rounded front of the trailer moves.
Yves,

I think you've got it. I took a look at other photos after I asked the question and that was the other possibility that occurred to me. Bit of a waste of space, if ya ask me, but they didn't! :-)

Thanks!

Paul