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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: February 28, 2015, 10:36:25 AM »
R-4360 is the way to go, the airframe was at least designed for a 5000 hp engine

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: March 02, 2015, 09:32:56 AM »
Westland Whirlwind II:




It....MUST...be...BUILT!!!!!!!!


Fuselage needs to be stretched but I agree, someone (other than me) must build it! :-*
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: March 02, 2015, 05:46:40 PM »
Fuselage was stretched for that one.
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: March 02, 2015, 06:13:33 PM »
Really? ???

Wow! :icon_surprised:

Still looks like it could do with a longer rear fuselage. ;)
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2016, 07:48:44 PM »
John Lacey posted some Wyverns in USN and Marines colours:






Source: Facebook - John's Aircraft & Armour Profile Page
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: May 22, 2016, 08:03:16 PM »
Westland Whirlwind II:




Because I'm on an F-82 kick right now, have you done one of these like an F-82 ? Think it would look really good myself. I think I would give it double wheels on each main gear and have them retract rearward into a bay between the exhausts in the fuselage.
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2016, 02:29:16 AM »
Some more US ones by some of our other artists:




And a French one:

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2016, 02:37:08 AM »
have you done one of these like an F-82 ?

Haven't done one yet, though it certainly could be done.
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2016, 10:52:14 PM »
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: May 30, 2016, 12:47:58 PM »




Looking at those two, it just struck me that the top one has the pilot sitting in the middle of the engine, but you could solve that by moving the engine behind the pilot, with the straight-through exhaust of the second one and side intakes, something like this:



Changes:

Tail unit raised and filleted to make space for jetpipe and tailwheel+hook arrangement.

Slot intakes added behind cockpit, based on original nose intake (they'd probably look like Attacker intakes).

Props moved slightly further back and new fairing added.

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: May 30, 2016, 06:46:31 PM »
The first design of the Wyvern was like that Harold, see the BSP book 'Fighters & Bombers 1835-1950', only it was using the RR Eagle engine, not the Python.  I bought one of those resin Wyvern TF.1 kits to do it ---

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: May 31, 2016, 02:49:03 AM »
I bought one of those resin Wyvern TF.1 kits to do it ---

I wish someone would do the RR Eagle engined variant in 1/48 - even just a conversion kit.
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: June 06, 2016, 01:48:11 AM »
W.36 turbojet Wyvern!

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2016, 07:24:44 PM »
 Aerodynamically cleaned up, post WWII Schneider Trophy, single centre float, float plane variant.

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: June 06, 2016, 11:48:26 PM »
Wyvern powered by:

R-3350 ------ Kit bash with Monogram-Revell / Matchbox-Revell /ESCI-Italeri / Tamiya A-1 Skyraider for the R-3350 parts

R-4360 ------ Kit bash with the Special Hobby/Accurate Miniatures F2G Corsair for the R-4360 parts

The various Skyraider kits give you some options on matching the engine cowling up with the Wyvern parts.  Not sure how the F2G parts would fare in this but hey, it is just an idea that I had to share. 
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: June 07, 2016, 12:18:37 AM »
Wyvern powered by:

R-4360 ------ Kit bash with the Special Hobby/Accurate Miniatures F2G Corsair for the R-4360 parts

The various Skyraider kits give you some options on matching the engine cowling up with the Wyvern parts.  Not sure how the F2G parts would fare in this but hey, it is just an idea that I had to share.

Funny you should mention the F2G as a donor. I have dry fitted a Wyvern Prop assembly on a F2G with a Skyraider cowling so I have a R4360 available to mount on a Wyvern.
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: June 07, 2016, 01:02:23 AM »
Nice to know I am not the only one that comes up with ideas that can consume several kits in the process of creating something different :)
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: May 06, 2017, 03:55:29 AM »
Watching PhlyDaily on YouTube flying a Wyvern in War Thunder this afternoon and really got to appreciate the performance [yeah, it is a game but it looked good] of the Wyvern maneuvering against other aircraft and blasting them out of the sky with short bursts of 20mm, quite inspiring I must admit. 

Two things about the Wyvern that always bugged me was the two finlets on the horizontal stabilizers and lack of a clear canopy behind the pilot.  While it was designed as an attack and torpedo carrying aircraft with the fighter mission sort of taking on the lowest priority for the mission it seems to me that the Wyvern would have benefited from having a full canopy with a view to the rear quarters that was not obscured as it is on the real aircraft.  The horizontal stabilizer mounted finlets might also be removed and replaced with a fillet on the vertical stabilizer, something akin to what was found on the later models of the P-47 Thunderbolt perhaps. 
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: May 06, 2017, 11:13:23 AM »
I believe the finlets were designed to catch the engine exhausts and have greater control authority for the rudder.   Many single-engined turboprop aircraft had them in the early 1950s - Gannet for example.   I like the look of them, rather British really.   "What?  Need more rudder control?  How about we add some finlets?  Hey?" 

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: May 07, 2017, 06:00:32 AM »
Not only turboprops - AEW variants of the Skyraider had them too.

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #45 on: September 21, 2017, 02:07:02 AM »
Just a cool and hopefully inspiring picture:

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #46 on: June 04, 2018, 06:29:52 PM »
Found on french forum Master194.com:



More pics here :
http://www.master194.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=100909&start=50#p1298821

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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #47 on: June 04, 2018, 09:53:28 PM »
Very different but very, very nice! 8)

I love it! :-*

Camo (& the replaced outer starboard wing) is awesome. :smiley:
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Re: Westland Wyvern Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #48 on: June 05, 2018, 02:49:16 AM »
The camo is awesome... and must have taken AGES to paint :o