Author Topic: Boeing B-17 Ideas and Inspiration (Read 104016 times)

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #150 on:** July 22, 2012, 03:32:31 AM »

Off on another tangent on the maritime/anti-shipping B-17 theme, what about a floatplane version ala the Cant Z.511:

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #151 on:** July 22, 2012, 01:04:12 PM »

Quote from: tigercat on July 17, 2012, 06:56:15 AM

http://www.unrealaircraft.com/hybrid/pages/b17_24_2.php

B17 nose on B24 body .

Inspired by this cut n shut aircraft I always wonder about the feasibility of a Lanc with a B17 nose

That looks a lot like a XB-41 which was the B-24 equivalent to the YB-40:

Maverick · « **Reply #152 on:** July 22, 2012, 05:45:51 PM »

Whilst the XB-41 did have that nose arrangement, that was a B-24J modified.

Regards,

John

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #153 on:** July 23, 2012, 02:01:30 AM »

I know - which is why I said "That looks a lot like a XB-41..."

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #154 on:** July 25, 2012, 10:22:53 AM »

Turboprop B-17 anyone?

Daryl J. · « **Reply #155 on:** August 23, 2012, 03:44:01 AM »

This thread is hugely thorough and I don't have time to reread it all so apologies if this has already been covered.

The idea: The Academy B-17 Sharkfin outfitted with the chin radar off the Trumpeter Coastal Command Wellington. What gun/s would fit in the nose suitable for an antishipping role? And then fly it out of the PacNW or off the east coast of Canada with the RCAF.

Thanks for the info. :)

Maverick · « **Reply #156 on:** August 23, 2012, 06:03:09 AM »

Daryl, the RAF did something similar with the B-17, throwing in a 40mm Vickers. The nose radome of a Wellington might pass for the modification, but the radar would have to go somewhere else.

Regards,

John

dogsbody · « **Reply #157 on:** August 23, 2012, 08:43:12 PM »

Quote from: dogsbodymk1 on June 25, 2012, 03:17:45 AM

A anti-ship/anti-sub version with a bit of a sting?

Are you thinking of this?

Chris

Chris

Maverick · « **Reply #158 on:** August 23, 2012, 10:59:48 PM »

That's the chap!

Daryl J. · « **Reply #159 on:** August 24, 2012, 04:15:18 AM »

Thanks, that's the one. I'd put into my memory the chin was a radar mount however.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #160 on:** August 25, 2012, 04:44:24 AM »

Quote from: Daryl J. on August 24, 2012, 04:15:18 AM

I'd put into my memory the chin was a radar mount however.

It could be in the whiffverse...

finsrin · « **Reply #161 on:** August 28, 2012, 12:26:09 AM »

Turboprop B-17 is way cool

finsrin · « **Reply #162 on:** December 05, 2012, 05:06:25 PM »

From what I see; B-17 tail wheel is retractable.
Anyone know if there are gear doors that close under tail wheel when retracted ?

dogsbody · « **Reply #163 on:** December 06, 2012, 01:00:07 AM »

Quote from: finsrin on December 05, 2012, 05:06:25 PM

From what I see; B-17 tail wheel is retractable.
Anyone know if there are gear doors that close under tail wheel when retracted ?

No doors covering the B-17's tail wheel, there's just an open slot.

Chris

Daryl J. · « **Reply #164 on:** December 06, 2012, 06:12:56 AM »

It's amazing how flexible the body of a B-17 is.
Someone was throwing one around in the skies above Forest Grove, OR in the mid 1990's. They'd pull hard up and hard right going directly away from where I was standing and was rather incredulous to see the wings at one angle and the tail plane at entirely a different one. I was wondering if they would twist that 50 year old frame in half!

Diamondback · « **Reply #165 on:** December 06, 2012, 07:12:34 AM »

One wonders what the B-40 gunships coulda done with adequate engine power added... the B-38's inlines posted some gain, but not enough data to warrant continued testing when the prototype burned. So maybe WHIF a quadruple-Merlin-powered gunship, or one repowered with whatever member of the Wasp family drove the B-29? (WWII is a little early for R-4360's...)

elmayerle · « **Reply #166 on:** December 06, 2012, 10:22:02 AM »

Quote from: Diamondback on December 06, 2012, 07:12:34 AM

One wonders what the B-40 gunships coulda done with adequate engine power added... the B-38's inlines posted some gain, but not enough data to warrant continued testing when the prototype burned. So maybe WHIF a quadruple-Merlin-powered gunship, or one repowered with whatever member of the Wasp family drove the B-29? (WWII is a little early for R-4360's...)

B-29 didn't have Wasps, or any P&W engine, it had Wright R3350s. I could see a B-40 with four R2800s. Perhaps a B-38 with Griffons and a B-40's armament?

finsrin · « **Reply #167 on:** December 06, 2012, 03:39:18 PM »

I also could see a B-40 with four R2800s.
A gunslinger.

elmayerle · « **Reply #168 on:** December 07, 2012, 09:58:21 AM »

Quote from: finsrin on December 06, 2012, 03:39:18 PM

I also could see a B-40 with four R2800s.
A gunslinger.

So what engine cowls? P-47, F6F, F4U, or ...? I could see this becoming a most interesting piece of kit.

Speaking of P-47s, how about using four IV-2220 engines as trialed on the XP-47H?

Daryl J. · « **Reply #169 on:** December 07, 2012, 01:41:06 PM »

F4U-1 cowlings on a Sharkfin.
AU-1 cowlings on a G model.
Ventura props.

kitnut617 · « **Reply #170 on:** December 07, 2012, 09:32:20 PM »

Quote from: elmayerle on December 07, 2012, 09:58:21 AM

Speaking of P-47s, how about using four IV-2220 engines as trialed on the XP-47H?

That's an idea --

We could even go here with that idea

or here

But aren't we going into the realms of B-29 nacelles for these Evan ? More to the point, could B-29 nacelles fit on a B-17 ?

The Big Gimper · « **Reply #171 on:** December 07, 2012, 10:49:17 PM »

Since it is a Boeing product, what about B-29 R-3350s with this A/C being the test bed for the future R-3350 installations?

finsrin · « **Reply #172 on:** December 11, 2012, 03:27:21 PM »

Quote from: dogsbody on December 06, 2012, 01:00:07 AM

Quote from: finsrin on December 05, 2012, 05:06:25 PM
From what I see; B-17 tail wheel is retractable.
Anyone know if there are gear doors that close under tail wheel when retracted ?

No doors covering the B-17's tail wheel, there's just an open slot.

Chris

Chris - Welcome to BTS and thanks for the info.

finsrin · « **Reply #173 on:** December 11, 2012, 03:34:25 PM »

Like the engine upgrade concepts. They are good for a Luft 46-47-? scenerio. Korean war too.
Even 1960's S.E.A. bomb toters for use in the south.

GTX_Admin · « **Reply #174 on:** December 11, 2012, 04:16:19 PM »

Taking a slight backwards step, what about a RAF B-17C/Fortress I reengined with Merlins?


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