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Offline Litvyak

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« Reply #325 on: July 09, 2012, 02:03:11 PM »


While production of the FGA.1 was getting up to speed and successfully replacing the Scimitar in the strike role, work continued on the development of a dedicated air-superiority fighter to replace the DHBC Vixen as the RBCAF's tactical fighter. Using the FGA.1 design as a starting point, Supermarine made a number of significant changes. Immediately noticeable is the single-seat cockpit and the different nose - where the FGA.1 used the  Ferranti AI.23 ("Blue Parrot") radar specifically suited for the strike role, the F.1 carried the Magnavox AN/APQ-104, which was designed for air interception. As an air-combat specialist, the F.1 could not carry the air-to-surface missiles that could be used by the FGA.1, though it could carry iron bombs. To make up for this, the air-to-air capability of the F.1 was expanded: in addition to the Firestreak and Red Top AAMs, the F.1 could also carry the Blue Dolphin AAM, a radar-guided version of the Red Top. The standard weapons load for an F.1 was two Blue Dolphin and two Red Top missiles.

The Shukopoots F.1 entered squadron service in 1971 with No. 7 (F) and No. 3 (F) Squadrons, with No. 9 (F) Squadron following in 1972. The F.1s were delivered from the factory in the last air superiority scheme to have been worn by the Vixens - upper and lower surfaces painted Sky (BCSI-59-503) with side surfaces painted French Grey (BCSI-59-604).



A third variant had also been in the projected, but this was deemed least important of the three, and so serious work began only after the FGA.1 had been delivered to squadron service. The Shukopoots FR.1 was a photo-recce variant that removed all weapon capabilities (though retaining one cannon for emergency self-defence) and replacing it with a new nose. This nose carried an array of cameras, along with a Texas Instruments AN/APQ-99 radar. A total of twenty were built, using the FGA.1 tooling. These entered service in 1973, ten aircraft going to No. 104 (PR) Squadron, and another ten to No. 111 (PR) Squadron. In 1974, however, 111 Sqn temporarily stood down in preparation for converting to a fighter squadron, and all twenty of the FR.1s were gathered at 104 Sqn.

(tbc!)
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #326 on: July 09, 2012, 02:21:39 PM »
Shukopoots F.1  ---  is right on in profile, colors, write up.   :)

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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #327 on: July 10, 2012, 12:02:26 PM »
Love the Shukopoots!!!  I'd love to see some in SEA camo (night and day) in an alternate Vietnam with Canadian involvement.  Keep 'em coming  8)
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #328 on: July 10, 2012, 12:50:22 PM »
I do have something Vietnam-related to come... though perhaps not quite what one might expect! ;)

Am curious though - what is the difference between 'day' and 'night' SEA camo? I'm only really familiar with the green+green+tan scheme like on this AltCan CF-108C:



(Note: While Canada of the AltCan-World from which the CF-108 originates did get involved in Vietnam, the Canada of the AltBC-World did not; as to whether BC got involved or not, I'll leave you in suspense until the next batch of profiles are done... ;) )
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #329 on: July 10, 2012, 01:01:31 PM »
If memory serves me correctly, "night" SEA camoflage has a black underside and possibly a darker color than the tan on the upper surfaces.  I believe the SEA-pattern B-52's were in the "night" scheme.

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« Reply #330 on: July 10, 2012, 10:20:37 PM »
Ooooh nice CF-108!

Yep, "night" SEA was simply black in lieu of white on the undersides.  The B-52s carried the black halfway up the sides and covered the vertical tail as well.

Here's some links to the scheme.  You need to darken your greens a bit.

Day:

http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/schemes/sea_e.htm

Night:

http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/schemes/sacsea_e.htm

Don't get SEA confused with the similar "Asia Minor" scheme:
http://www.jpsmodell.de/dc/schemes/asiamin_e.htm

Consider me in suspense then  ;D
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Offline Litvyak

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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #331 on: July 11, 2012, 10:17:55 AM »
More of the Supermarine Swan Song - Operation Housecat

(hopefully this is at least sorta plausible...!)

In 1970, Supermarine announced that it had received an order for 90 Shukopoots FGA.1 from the US Air Force. Given the US' unwritten "not built here" rule, this order came as something of a surprise in aviation and defence circles. The ninety aircraft - given the factory designation Shukopoots FGA.21 and the USAF designation F-112A Rattlesnake (and given serial numbers 70-0020 through 70-0109, reused from a block assigned to a cancelled F-111D order) - were delivered to Edwards AFB in between December 1970 and February 1971, where they were all assigned to the 6510th Test Wing. Over the following months, two squadrons were formed to operate the F-112s, which were successively deployed to Vietnam in 1971 and 1972. In early 1973, the last F-112A returned from Vietnam to Edwards AFB, where the aircraft were returned to the 6510th TW, where they remained until they were returned to Supermarine in the summer of 1976.

The F-112A had a significantly different weapons fit than the Shukopoots FGA.1, though it retained the Blue Parrot radar. Instead of the two AC.2 30mm cannon, the F-112A was fitted with two 20mm Pontiac M39 cannon. In terms of missile capability, it was capable of carrying the AIM-9E air-to-air missile, as well as the AGM-12 Bullpup air-to-surface missile and the AGM-78 Standard ARM anti-radiation missile. Of course, a wide array of iron bombs could be carried as well, along with Paveway I series LGBs. Further, the IFR system was replaced with a USAF-style receptacle for refuelling via boom.

Very little information was available at the time about the F-112 and its operations, and the RBCAF was perhaps understandably secretive about the formation of Shukopoots squadrons and about some extensive training deployments made by RBCAF personnel to Edwards AFB. Given the lack of concrete information, several conspiracy theories arose around the question of the Supermarine F-112 Rattlesnake.

The official story, issued by the RBCAF, the USAF, Supermarine, the BC Defence Ministry and the Pentagon, was that the USAF had purchased the aircraft simply for use in Vietnam, and after the withdrawal, the type became superfluous to needs. Initially the USAF considered using them as drones, but decided instead to return them to Supermarine, who dismantled them to sell off as parts.

The full, true story of the F-112 didn't emerge for decades. In 2004 an article was published in the Vancouver Dominion newspaper, in which a man identified only as a retired RBCAF officer described in vague terms RBCAF operations in the 1970s, mentioning Edwards AFB among other things, and hinting about operations in Vietnam. Over the following year, a few other ex-RBCAF officers came out with similar stories, some vague, others somewhat more specific. But the story remained mostly out of the public eye, restricted to the attention of those with an interest in aviation or history, until in October 2005 it came out that Flt Lt George Nikolich of the RBCAF had been awarded a posthumous Victoria Cross in 1974, confirmed by a letter leaked to the Victoria Times-Colonist by an employee of the Defence Ministry. "How could that be?" was the question on the minds of BC's public, when such great fanfare was made about Sgt Dennis Gordon in 1991, when he was awarded the VC for heroism during the Gulf War. Sgt Gordon was the first British Columbian to receive the VC since WW2! At least, that was the official story until the leak of the Defence Ministry document. The Defence Ministry's only comment was to acknowledge that yes, Flt Lt Nikolich was indeed awarded the VC in 1974, but would comment no further as the events surrounding the award were still classified. The "retired RBCAF officer" of the original Vancouver Dominion article resurfaced, still without being named, saying that he was in the same unit as Flt Lt Nikolich, at the same time, and that all of the squadron was there for the award ceremony that was attended only by squadron members, Air Vice Marshal Edwin McDougall, the Governor General, several other high-ranking BCDF officers and a USAF general. After this, the issue gradually faded from the public mind until 2009, when a book was published by the "retired RBCAF officer" under a pen-name, which told the entire story. Though neither the Defence Ministry nor the RBCAF has commented either way on the veracity of the book's claims, and the USAF's official response to inquiries from the BC media was along the lines of 'we were not aware such a book had even been published', the story is nevertheless plausible. Which story is true? We'll have to wait until the relevant files start becoming declassified in 2019...

In the long history of up-and-down relations between BC and the United States, the late 1960s was an 'up' period, at least on the governmental level; general public sentiment, however, was less favourable, especially because of the war in Vietnam.

The Dominion government, however, was broadly in agreement with the aims of the war, but due to public opinion it was unable to openly commit to the effort. So, in late 1968, secret discussions began between HMDG and the US Government which led to an agreement culminating in the USAF order for the Shukopoots.

BC made a two-year commitment to aiding the war effort, subject to re-evaluation after the two years was up. Under the terms of the agreement, the RBCAF would send two squadrons to Vietnam, one squadron at a time, for a period of 12 months each. Of this 12 months, only 8 were spent in-theatre. Two months were spent in training with the USAF prior to deployment, followed by four months in Vietnam. This was followed by a month's leave, during which squadron members could, if they wished, return to BC. The unit then returned to Vietnam for another four month combat tour, after which the unit returned to the US, where it helped train up the replacement squadron for a month before returning to BC.

Since it couldn't be openly known that BC was taking an active part in the war, a deception strategy was devised. It was part of this strategy which brought about the USAF order for the Shukopoots. Another part was the selection of the personnel who would take part in the deployments - only those who were eligible for North American Eyes Only clearance would be assigned to the operation, codenamed "Housecat". Another factor to consider was language, but more on this later...

From delivery until 3 March 1971 all the F-112A were located at Edwards North Base; on that day, No. 9 (F) Squadron (RBCAF) arrived at Edwards with brand-new Shukopoots FGA.1s in RBCAF markings, after the unit's pilots had undergone a conversion course to the Shukopoots FGA.1 in January-February 1971. The rest of the squadron's personnel arrived over the course of the next two weeks. From there, they redeployed in secret to Nellis AFB, where they spent their two months' training for operations in Vietnam. Once there, they flew only in the F-112s, and during their absence, their FGA.1s were flown by USAF pilots, mainly for appearance's sake.



9 Sqn deployed to Vietnam on 3 June 1971 as the 392nd Tactical Fighter Squadron, part of 49th Wing based at Holloman AFB, New Mexico. The choice of number - one that was not assigned to any USAF unit at the time - is significant: during WW2, 9 Sqn was an Article XV squadron operating as 392 Sqn RBCAF (this is a tidbit that was soon latched onto by the conspiracy theorists - an example of them being right sometimes!). The aircraft carried the HO tail code, and the squadron personnel wore USAF uniforms, and each member was given a fictitious personal history, complete with false papers - memorising new birthplaces, high schools, and other such details was part of the two-month training program. As mentioned earlier, language* was a factor in the selection of personnel to be assigned to Operation Housecat. They had to be fluent in English, of course, and had to have as little of the distinctive BC accent as possible. This meant that the vast majority of personnel selected were from either the Greater Vancouver area or the area around the towns of Trail, Salmo and Creston, where the accent is quite similar to that of eastern Washington state: a BCer from Victoria or Prince George, for example, would have great difficulty passing off as an American (or as a Canadian, for that matter!).

<<* Side note: yes, I *have* even worked out details of the AltBC dialect!>>

Operationally, "392nd TFS" flew Wild Weasel missions for the first seven months of their combat time, thus their aircraft were painted in the day version of the USAF's SEA camo scheme. The Shukopoots proved well-suited to this role, but at the beginning of their last month in combat, they were shifted to night strike operations and their aircraft were repainted in the dark version of the SEA camo.

After the 392nd finished their eight months of combat duty, they returned to Nellis AFB where they spent a month training up their replacements prior to returning home to BC with the FGA.1s they flew down with to RBCAF Terrace where they spent two weeks being debriefed, then picking up their new aircraft - the Shukopoots F.1. Gradually, 9 Sqn crews who had taken part in combat operations were reassigned to RBCAF strike units - 5, 10 and 101 squadrons.

The second squadron to take part in Operation Housecat was 111 Squadron. 111 Sqn had been a recce unit since it was first established before WW2, but it had stood down in 1959. Pilots and ground crews selected to take part in Housecat were gathered into the newly re-established 111 (S) Squadron, where they underwent conversion to the Shukopoots FGA.1 before heading to Nellis AFB with their new aircraft. From then on, their story was similar to 9 Sqn's. 111 (S) Sqn RBCAF became "399th TFS" of 49th Wing - night-attack specialists throughout their combat deployments to Vietnam.



It was during one of these missions in 1972 that Flt Lt George Nikolich earned his posthumous Victoria Cross. During a pre-dawn strike, Nikolich's wingman, F/o Doug Davis, took considerable damage from a SAM strike. The aircraft remained flyable, however, and Nikolich escorted Davis back towards their airbase. During the return flight, they were bounced by a pair of VPAF MiG-17s. The MiGs drove in to try to finish off Davis' damaged aircraft. Nikolich's first Sidewinder shot downed the MiG leader, but the second MiG successfully evaded the second (and last) missile. Nikolich then observed that the MiG was going after Davis again, so he attempted to distract the MiG again. In the ensuing dogfight Nikolich made a mistake that saved Davis: the MiG had managed to get onto Nikolich's six, but the spacing was closer than Nikolich had assessed with his backwards glance, and his in an attempt to get off the MiG's nose, Nikolich pulled up sharply. This brought him directly into the MiG's line of flight, and the VPAF pilot was unable to dodge. Both Nikolich's F-112 and the VPAF MiG were destroyed in the collision, but it put Davis in the clear, who was able then to nurse his damaged aircraft back to base. After the debriefing, 111 Sqn's officer commanding submitted Nikolich's name for the Victoria Cross to RBCAF command. Due to the secrecy around British Columbian involvement in the War, the Air Chief Marshal forwarded the recommendation directly to the Prime Minister and the Governor General. After the official confirmation of the award in 2005, Flt Lt George Nikolich VC was given a full state funeral in Victoria.

399th TFS/111 Sqn returned to Nellis AFB in the beginning of 1973, where it underwent the same wind-down process as did 392nd TFS/9 Sqn, dropping off their F-112As and flying home in their FGA.1s. However, 111 Sqn exchanged their FGA.1s for ten new FR.1s, becoming a recce squadron as they had previously been.

The Vietnam experience brought much new data for Supermarine to study, which directly influenced the design of FGA.1's replacement, the Shukopoots FGA.2.

The survivors from the 90 F-112A which had been "ordered" by the USAF remained in the US until 1976, after which they were crated up and returned to Supermarine by rail. Supermarine dismantled the aircraft into components and sold the entire lot to the South African Air Force to serve as a parts store in October of 1977, when it became apparent that the UN would soon impose a mandatory arms embargo against South Africa.

(tbc with F.1 exports!)
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 12:26:25 PM by Litvyak »
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #332 on: July 11, 2012, 10:30:26 AM »
Great storyline! I love the conspiracy theory angles  :D

At one point (referring to the Vancouver Dominion article) Flt Lt Nikolich becomes a Sqn Ldr? Posthumous promotion or just a glitch?
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« Reply #333 on: July 11, 2012, 10:51:03 AM »
Just a couple of nit-picks:

The Colt Mk 12 was a US Navy weapon that fired a completely different type of 20mm and would never be ordered by USAF. Instead they used the Pontiac M39 20mm.

The US air war in VietNam was not active in 1973. The North had invaded the South in 1972 (Easter Offensive) which had sparked the massive LINEBACKER I & II air campaign against the North. This lead to a cease fire in 1973. While the insurgency continued in the South there were no major US air offensives against the North or Ho Chi Minh Trail after LINEBACKER II.

But 1971-72 would be a very fruitful time for the Shuki to be involved in VietNam. You have the massive COMMONDO HUNT VII campaign against the Ho Chi Minh Trail in summer 71-72. Then you have the Easter Offensive and LINEBACKER I & II.

But apart from these minor nit-picks it’s a fantastic idea.
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« Reply #334 on: July 11, 2012, 10:53:50 AM »
Love the profiles and the story!!!!  Nice touch with the covert angle, well done.  That camo just fits the Shukopoots doesn't it? 8)
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« Reply #335 on: July 11, 2012, 10:55:17 AM »
I like AGRA's "Shuki"! I was leaning towards 'Poots but it's not very butch.
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« Reply #336 on: July 11, 2012, 11:14:34 AM »
How about "Shukos"?
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Offline Litvyak

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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #337 on: July 11, 2012, 11:53:36 AM »
Thanks everyone! *phew* Relieved you all like it! Was worried it may be a bit over the top. :P But I had fun coming up with it!

At one point (referring to the Vancouver Dominion article) Flt Lt Nikolich becomes a Sqn Ldr? Posthumous promotion or just a glitch?

Glitch - and fixed. I'd started out with him as a Sqn Ldr but then decided that's probably a bit too high a rank to be right out there on the tip of the blade.

Just a couple of nit-picks:

The Colt Mk 12 was a US Navy weapon that fired a completely different type of 20mm and would never be ordered by USAF. Instead they used the Pontiac M39 20mm.

Fixed - thanks! I wanted something American instead of the BC-made Tobin cannon, looked first at the F-4, thought no, that'd probably need too much of a redesign, then thought, hm.. F-8? Ooh, 20mm should work! Didn't even think to think the USN and USAF might use incompatible ordnance...

The US air war in VietNam was not active in 1973.
<snip>

Hmmmm, you're right, of course.

And now I've thought of a solution and will amend the text appropriately in a moment: instead of 3 years/18 months, the agreement is for 2 years/12 months. So 9 Sqn does its two month training in the US and deploys to Vietnam in July 1971 as I'd written. They're in combat for four months, then get October off, then back in for four months, then go back to the US in March to train 111 Sqn up; 111 arrives Nellis in February, does their two months training, gets to Vietnam in April, gets August off, back to Vietnam in September, and their second four months is up at the end of December 1972 - accidentally but neatly coinciding with the end of Linebacker II.

I like AGRA's "Shuki"! I was leaning towards 'Poots but it's not very butch.

Shuki is great and I think vastly better than 'poots... because the latter A, sounds too much like "putz" in English, and B, Chinook Wawa - opoots means behind, rear... Shukopoots literally is rattle-behind or rattle-rear (like the word for skunk means stink-behind). So I don't think British Columbian pilots, who speak English and are probably at least conversant in the Wawa, would call their rides a putz or an arse... :D  But Shuki, Shuker, Snake I could all see. :)
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« Reply #338 on: July 11, 2012, 11:57:16 AM »
That camo just fits the Shukopoots doesn't it? 8)

Yeah, somehow, it really does! Certain schemes just seem to fit certain airframes like if they were planned for each other, and I think this has turned out to be one such!

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« Reply #339 on: July 11, 2012, 12:12:21 PM »
Sorry for the three in a row... but I've edited the original text to reflect the changes to the deployments... and added something I forgot to add originally, regarding the personnel selection process... :)
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #340 on: July 11, 2012, 11:13:37 PM »
Definitely lookers in that camo!

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« Reply #341 on: July 12, 2012, 09:54:05 AM »
More of Supermarine Swan Song - Shukopoots F.1 exports



In the late 1960s, the Royal Canadian Air Force was engaged in a drawn-out selection process for a new fighter. Initially, the RCAF wanted the F-4 Phantom, but McDonnell's unwillingness to allow licence production in Canada proved a dealbreaker. Other types were considered, and Supermarine, via the RBCAF, kept the RCAF up to date on progress with the Shukopoots; an RCAF test pilot flew the first second prototype Shukopoots twice, and thereafter a small team of RCAF evaluators were present at the tests of the subsequent pre-production aircraft. When it became apparent that only Northrop was willing to allow Canadair to licence-build a new fighter, the RCAF finally decided in 1968 to go with the Shukopoots, considering it a far superior platform than the F-5.

Canadair undertook licence production of the aircraft for the Canadian Armed Forces Air Command (reunification happening before production could commence) starting in 1969 (thus predating the F.1), though Supermarine did give the type an internal designation - Shukopoots F.11. The CF-111 Rattlesnake was something of a hybrid of the Shukopoots FGA.1 and F.1 variants - an F.1 airframe carrying an AI.23 radar and capable of carrying the an air-to-air weapons fit equivalent to the F.1 (AIM-9 and AIM-7 for the CF-111), and an air-to-ground missile load the equivalent of the FGA.1 (AGM-62 Walleye and AGM-12 Bullpup). Canadair built 89 CF-111A single-seat and 45 CF-111D two-seat Rattlers, which in 1978 were rebuilt with Spey 205 engines. The CF-111As remained in front-line service with 433 and 434 Sqns until 1988, while the CF-111D remained operational with 419 (Tactical Fighter Training) Sqn until 1995.



The first export customer for Supermarine-built F.1s was the Iraqi Air Force, who ordered 65 F.1s along with 8 T.1s. The Iraqi F.1s were given the designation Shukopoots F.31 (the trainers were T.31) and called "rattlesnake" by the Iraqis, and were delivered in 1972. They saw extensive service in the Iran-Iraq war, putting up a satisfactory record: 14 kills for 16 losses (though in its defence, 7 of the losses were kills scored by Iranian F-14s). They remained in service until the first Gulf War as well, during which one was shot down in an intriguing irony: the kill was made by an RBCAF Shukopoots F.4! Many were destroyed on the ground, and about a dozen took refuge in Iran, but those airframes have not flown ever since. The last known flight of an Iraqi Shukopoots F.31 was in 1993, when it was shot down by an American fighter patrolling the southern no-fly zone.



The second foreign order came from the Hellenic Air Force who ordered 66 F.1s. Designated Shukopoots F.41, they were wired to carry AIM-9 and AIM-7 missiles instead of the Red Top and Blue Dolphin, but were otherwise identical to the RBCAF's F.1s. Greek pilots converted to the type in BC at RBCAF Terrace. The HAF F.41s were retired in 1984.



The Imperial Ethiopian Air Force had established a relationship with the RBCAF after WW2, when the RBCAF helped Ethiopia set up a new air force. The IEAF was also no stranger to Supermarine BC products, either, having flown the Skemcis F.92 from 1946 until 1960. In 1972, the IEAF was looking for a replacement for its F-86 Sabres, and quickly decided on the Shukopoots - in part because BC was willing to provide air-to-air missiles (though only the Red Top), whereas the Americans, who had offered the F-5A, were not. The IEAF received 44 Shukopoots F.51 in 1973, a year before the Derg overthrew the government of emperor Haile Selassie. Though the government changed later in the 1970s, the Ethiopian Air Force continued to operate the Shukopoots; they played a vital role in the Ogaden War, during which Ethiopian F.51s quickly established air superiority despite being outnumbered by Somali MiG-21s - the Red Top missiles proved a decisive factor. After Ethiopia began receiving Soviet aid, the Shukopoots fell into disuse; several can still be found rotting away at airfields in the country.
« Last Edit: July 12, 2012, 10:03:34 AM by Litvyak »
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Re: Litvyak's profiles
« Reply #342 on: July 12, 2012, 11:35:05 AM »
More Supermarine Swan Song!

The Shukopoots FGA.1 had a reasonably long career with the RBCAF, with the first aircraft entering operational service in 1968 and the last being withdrawn from front-line use in 1975. However, by the end of 1972 Supermarine was working on a new version, in large part based on feedback received from RBCAF pilots who had flown the FGA.1 in combat in Vietnam. Before the feedback started to arrive, Supermarine and the RBCAF were intending to rebuild the FGA.1s with the new Spey 203, but the lessons learned in Vietnam were significant enough that it was decided to incorporate new features into the replacement for the FGA.1.

The first difference between the new Shukopoots FGA.2 over the FGA.1 was, of course, the engine. Replacing the Spey 202 was the Spey 203, which had a modified reheat control system that allowed for a faster reheat light-up time. The wing was also redesigned. Leading edge slats were added to increase manoeuvrability at the expense of speed, and the FGA.2's wing had greater flap deflection than the wing of the FGA.1.

Weaponry was also expanded: the addition of the AGM-65 Maverick had been planned as part of the intended FGA.1 rebuild program, but based on their experiences with the missile operationally in Vietnam, 9 Sqn's pilots enthusiastically recommended adding the AGM-78 Standard ARM anti-radiation missile. Further capability additions were the AS.34 Kormoran I anti-ship missile and Canadian-made CRV-7 rockets. In the air-to-air role the FGA.2 was still limited to the Red Top and Firestreak AAMs, but in the air-to-ground role the FGA.2 became truly potent - iron bombs, CRV-7 rockets, along with AS.20 and AGM-65 air-to-ground missiles, the Kormoran anti-ship missile, the AGM-62 Walleye glide bomb and the AGM-78 anti-radar missile gave the RBCAF a very wide range of attack possibilities.



The FGA.2 entered squadron service in 1974, receiving serials ranging from BC76200 through BC76262. The first aircraft going to No. 101 (Strike) Sqn at RBCAF Cranbrook. In 1974, the RBCAF introduced new painting schemes across the board, and the new strike scheme was applied to 101 Sqn's FGA.2s at the factory. The new scheme was Forest Green (BCSI-59-403) and French Grey (BCSI-59-604) over Sky (BCSI-59-503). In 1976, 101 Sqn deployed to Osan AB, South Korea, for 9 months.



No. 5 (Maritime Strike) Sqn based at RBCAF Comox was the next to replace its FGA.1s with FGA.2s, later in 1974. Though all FGA.2s were capable of carrying the Kormoran anti-ship missile, only 5 Sqn used the Kormoran (for the same reasons, 5 Sqn did not train with or use the AGM-78 anti-radar missile). Along with everything else, the maritime strike camo scheme was modified in 1974 as well - the FGA.2s were delivered in the new scheme of Blue Grey (BCSI-59-508), Ocean Blue (BCSI-59-509) and Ocean Grey (BCSI-59-605) camo over Haze Grey (BCSI-59-603). The closest the FGA.2 came to actual combat in the maritime strike role was a training mission with live Kormorans in which 5 Sqn attacked and sank a pair of WW2-era destroyers that the RBCN had removed from its strategic reserve and donated to the air force for this purpose. British Columbians occasionally got entertainment (or a fright!) when travelling on the BC Ferries Port Hardy - Bella Coola - Prince Rupert route, when 5 Sqn aircraft would make mock attack runs against the ferries. These were done in cooperation with BC Ferries, and passengers were warned well in advance of the fighters' arrival, so that they could go to (or leave) the deck in time to see (or hide from) the spectacle. These were generally well-received by the travellers, who got to get a rare glimpse into how their Air Force operated.



No. 10 Sqn was the last of the three strike squadrons to replace its FGA.1s with FGA.2s, receiving theirs in the winter of 1974-75. Being based in the north at RBCAF Terrace, a new scheme introduced in 1975 was applicable to 10 Sqn's aircraft - the Northern scheme (though commonly referred to by civilians as the "arctic" camouflage). This scheme consisted of Snow White (BCSI-59-002), Ice Blue (BCSI-59-502) and Forest Green (BCSI-59-403) over Dawn Blue (BCSI-59-501) with lettering in Antiglare Black (BCSI-59-004). This unique scheme was rarely seen away from the airbases at Terrace and Dease Lake, so were extremely popular when they paid visits to airshows in southern BC and elsewhere.
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« Reply #343 on: July 12, 2012, 11:43:35 AM »
Love this latest batch!  The maritime strike version is my favorite  8)
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« Reply #344 on: July 13, 2012, 10:51:31 AM »


The Royal Australian Air Force leased new-build 24 FGA.2 in 1975 for a two-year period for extended evaluations, as they were considering a larger order including acquiring a licence to build the type in Australia. The RAAF FGA.2s were given the factory designation Shukopoots FGA.12. Though the RAAF was pleased with the type, the plan for acquiring and building a fleet of them had to be shelved due to budgetary constraints, and the 24 aircraft were returned to Supermarine in 1977.



The 24 ex-RAAF aircraft were overhauled by Supermarine, and were then bought by the Fuerza Aérea Peruviana (Peruvian Air Force) in late 1977. The Peruvians were also well pleased with the FGA.12, and in 1978 they purchased 40 more FGA.2s from the RBCAF after they were replaced by the FGA.3. These then formed the backbone of the FAP's strike capability, and they remained in service until 1993.



In 1973, a group of officers from the Republic of Korea Air Force visited the RBCAF to evaluate the Shukopoots FGA.1 then in service. The visitors were also shown around Supermarine, and were briefed on the development of the new FGA.2. The Koreans were suitably impressed, and the ROKAF test pilots who flew the FGA.1 were enthusiastic about the aircraft, and on returning to Korea the visiting group presented the Korean defence ministry with a glowing report and a recommendation to obtain the type. After negotiations were finished, the ROKAF ordered 40 aircraft to be delivered in a finished state from Supermarine, and kits for a further 60 that were assembled by Korean Air Lines. Korea's FGA.2s - designated KF-2 방울뱀 (Bang-ulbaem, "rattlesnake") in ROKAF service and Shukopoots FGA.22 by Supermarine, have been upgraded several times since their introduction and are in service, to be retired in the next few years.
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« Reply #345 on: July 13, 2012, 12:03:00 PM »
You are doing super profiles and schemes.
Number 10 squadron scheme really messes with my vision to make ID on aircraft and perhaps to follow it visually.   :) :) :)

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« Reply #346 on: July 14, 2012, 09:21:58 PM »


Three years after the introduction of the F.1, Supermarine rebuilt them with Spey 203 engines in 1974. These were redesignated Shukopoots F.2 in RBCAF service, keeping the original serial numbers in the BC7670 through BC76132 range. While they were at the factory, they were repainted into the new fighter scheme of overall Sky 503 introduced that year. Apart from the new engines, though, the aircraft remained identical to the F.1. No. 3 (F) Sqn was the first to receive its F.2s in 1974, followed by No. 9 (F) and No. 7 (F) Squadrons in 1975. Later in 1975, 111 Sqn converted from recce to fighters, and the F.2 fleet was split four ways instead of three.



In 1976, the BCDF introduced new roundels for RBCAF and RBCN FAA aircraft. The new RBCAF Type D roundel was based on the WW2-era RAF Type B roundel. The F.2 had the new roundel applied that year, but otherwise the scheme remained unchanged.



After the F.2 rebuild program was finished, Supermarine turned to the FR.1, rebuilding them with the new Spey 203 engine as well. Like the F.2, the Shukopoots FR.2 remained otherwise unchanged from the FR.1, but were repainted into the new recce scheme of French Grey 604 over Recce Mauve 505. The new recce scheme was specified in 1974, but the FR.1s never received the new paint, as they were already slated for rebuilding. After the rebuild, all FR.2s were gathered together at 104 (PR) Sqn, with the former 111 (PR) Sqn converting to fighters with the F.2.



Like the F.2, the FR.2 also had their roundels replaced with the RBCAF Type D roundel introduced in 1976.

The FGA.2s, however, never received the Type D roundel, as their replacement, the all-new FGA.3 was already starting production in 1976; thus, the Type C roundel could be seen on Shukopoots variants as late as 1977.
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« Reply #347 on: July 15, 2012, 02:12:24 AM »


The FGA.2 turned out to have a short career with the RBCAF - introduced in 1974, and the last one was withdrawn by 1977 and sold to Peru. The FGA.2 was replaced from 1976 by the Shukopoots FGA.3, which featured a redesigned nose housing the new Blue Fox radar, an IR seeker and a laser designator. Air-to-air capability was the same as on the FGA.2, with option to carry Firestreak or Red Top AAMs. The air-to-ground options were considerably different, too. Gone was the ability to carry the AS.20 ASM that were withdrawn in 1975; in its place, the capability to carry the AM.39 Exocet was added. Other ASM options remained the same as on the FGA.2 - AGM-65 Maverick, AGM-78 Standard ARM, AS.34 Kormoran I, AGM-62 Walleye glide bomb. Also retained were the CRV-7 rocket and iron bomb capability, but a significant addition was the on-board laser designator which allowed the use of laser-guided bombs - in the RBCAF's case, these were the Paveway II series: GBU-10 2000 lb, GBU-12 500 lb and GBU-16 1000 lb.

As with the FGA.2, the first unit to receive the FGA.3 was No. 101 (S) Squadron at RBCAF Cranbrook, who in 1978 repeated their 1976 adventure by deploying for six months to Osan AB, South Korea, in 1979.



No. 10 (S) Sqn received their FGA.3s in 1976 as well, based at RBCAF Terrace with a detachment at RBCAF Dease Lake. 10 Sqn took part in the inaugural Maple Flag exercises at CFB Cold Lake in 1978.



No. 5 (MS) Sqn of RBCAF Comox received their FGA.3s in 1977. As was the case with the Kormoran missile, only 5 Sqn trained with and used the AM.39 Exocet. After the introduction of the Exocet in 1977, the Kormoran was removed from use and the RBCAF stockpile was returned to Germany.

From 1978, all FGA.3s were rebuilt to FGA.4 standard by replacing the Spey 203 engine with the Spey 205, and adding the option to carry the AIM-9L Sidewinder AAM and the Matra Durandal anti-runway bomb.



1978 saw the introduction of the Shukopoots F.3, which included major changes from its predecessor the F.2. Immediately evident is the completely redesigned nose/cockpit area. The F.3 replaced the AN/APQ-104 radar of the F.1 and F.2 with the export version of the Hughes AN/APG-63 system. The larger diameter of the AN/APG-63 necessitated the redesign of the nose, and it was decided to modify the cockpit layout and canopy design at the same time. Along with the radar change was the installation of the new Spey 205, which featured modifications to improve reliability and service life. The armament fit was also expanded, adding capability for the AIM-9L Sidewinder and the Skyflash. With these, the F.3's AAM capability grew to Firestreak, Red Top, Sidewinder, Blue Dolphin and Skyflash. The F.3 turned out to be an excellent fighter, and remained in RBCAF service until replaced in 1988 by the F.4.

The "Salmon Wars" continue - the "Accidental War" of 1983

The reader may note the small USAF insignia under the cockpit of the illustrated F.3... this was a relic of 1983's "Accidental War".

Through 1982 and the beginning of 1983 the RBCN and BC Coast Guard became much more aggressive in patrolling BC-claimed waters, chasing off Alaskan fishing boats that were fishing in disputed areas. In early 1983, tensions spiked after an Alaskan fishing boat shot down a BCCG helicopter. The captain of the vessel later reported that the shots fired were intended only as a warning to try to chase the helicopter off, but several rounds hit the pilot's side window, killing the pilot, who slumped over onto his controls, sending the helicopter crashing into the sea. The fishing boat rescued the other two crew members, who were questioned by Alaskan police before being returned to BC on a commercial flight through Whitehorse, Canada.

The downing of the BCCG helicopter caused a massive public outcry in BC, stoking anti-US sentiment and tensions over the disputed area on the Alaska-BC border to levels not seen since 1939, when RBCN Sea Skemcis and USN Kingfisher float-fighters were deployed to the area, or 1956-1959 after the collision incident between the patrol boat HMBCS Skidegate and the cutter USCGC Dexter. In response, the RBCAF increased air patrols over land and sea claimed by BC; the patrols were undertaken by No. 9 (F) Squadron based at RBCAF Terrace, supplemented by a detachment from No. 3 (F) Sqn normally based at RBCAF Comox. In response, 21st TFW based at Elmendorf AFB sent detachments of F-4Es and F-15As to Juneau airport, where they operated similar patrols over the extent of US-claimed territories.

On 11 May 1983, the first exchange of fire took place when a USCG cutter intercepted a BC fishing boat. The fishing boat put out a distress call, which was responded to by an RBCN hydrofoil patrol boat. The fishing boat ignored the cutter's order to withdraw from the area, responding that the cutter was in BC waters and that a report had been made regarding the incursion into BC territorial waters. The cutter repeated the warning, and after the second warning was ignored, the cutter put a shot across the bow of the fishing boat. The boat sent another message, this time reporting that it was under attack. The RBCN patrol boat HMBCS Sir Matthew Baillie Begbie arrived several minutes later thanks to its high speed, and without warning opened fire on the USCG cutter with its 12.7 mm machine gun, killing one of the USCG crewmen who was on deck. The cutter returned fire, missing the patrol boat. The patrol boat called to the cutter, informing it that it was illegally in BC waters, that it had acted aggressively against a ship flying the BC civil (red) ensign, and that if the cutter did not immediately withdraw, it would be attacked with the patrol boat's MM.39 Exocet missiles. The cutter backed down and departed, and on the following day the US Navy sent a Spruance-class destroyer from Naval Station Bremerton to the area. With the retirement of the cruiser HMBCS New Westminster in 1979, the RBCN had no surface ship nearly as large as the Spruance-class ships, but it did have SSKs and the missile-armed PHMs. The E-class submarine HMBCS Excalibur was sent north, along with three more PHMs from Esquimalt to supplement the five stationed at Prince Rupert and Skidegate.

As the situation was escalating rapidly, BC and US diplomats began talking, with the first meeting between the BC Foreign Minister and the US Secretary of State happening at Calgary, Canada, attended by the Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs. This first round of talks started on 21 May and lasted six days before breaking down on 27 May after neither side was willing to compromise to a degree satisfactory to both sides. On 30 May, BC offered to submit to mediation with the UK serving as the arbiters, but the US rejected this proposal, claiming that the United Kingdom would be biased in favour of BC. The Americans made a counter-proposal on 2 June, offering Mexico as the mediator, but BC rejected this for the same reasons.

By that point, air patrols of both sides had become a daily thing, each side prodding at the other. On 24 May, four USAF F-4Es made a dash towards Prince Rupert; they were intercepted off the coast by RBCAF Lightnings of No. 1 (F) Sqn from RBCAF Terrace. After entering visual range, the F-4Es turned around and returned to base. On 26 May, three Shukopoots FGA.3 from the No. 10 (S) Sqn detachment at RBCAF Dease Lake undertook a "retaliation", in which they flew west at low level, hugging the terrain until popping up to buzz downtown Juneau at low level, causing several thousand dollars' worth of damage in broken windows; as the USAF fighters deployed to Juneau airport were up on patrol at the time, the FGA.3s managed to return to BC without being intercepted. This was the first instance of an air mission that entered airspace over undisputed land; the officer commanding the 10 Sqn detachment was chastised, but apart from the formal reprimand, no action was taken against him.

Such exchanges continued for over a week, each side testing the other. The largest of these occurred on 3 June, when four F-4Es armed for air-to-ground, escorted by four F-15As, headed for RBCAF Dease Lake. They were intercepted by Lightnings of No. 2 (F) Sqn based at Dease Lake, and after their RWRs went off when locked onto by SAMs of the Royal BC Artillery's air defence unit stationed at the base, the US aircraft withdrew.

A day earlier, the submarine Excalibur successfully closed on the USN destroyer, closing in to well within kill range off the stern of the ship; instead of torpedoes, however, the sub captain sent out a sonar ping and surfaced, making the signal "Bang, you're dead. Go home."

On 4 June, a USAF patrol of two F-15s intercepted an RBCAF patrol of Shukopoots F.3s of No. 9 (F) Sqn over the waters of Dixon Entrance north of the Queen Charlotte Islands. Not for the first time, the fighters dropped tanks, and also not unusual was the dogfight that broke out between the four aircraft. In all previous cases, the dogfighting ended after the given leader had his tail 'waxed'. In this instance, however, the furball got a bit more aggressive. The F.3 leader tangled with the F-15 leader, and eventually the American managed to get the position, locking himself onto the F.3's six. An opportunity opened up for the number two F.3, who pounced onto it, getting on the aft of the F-15 leader and sending an AIM-9L up the American's starboard tailpipe. The engine disintegrated and the pilot ejected. The F.3 leader had the presence of mind to go level, immediately radioing for a Coast Guard or Navy vessel to pick the American pilot up. The fighters all disengaged and returned to base, and the USAF pilot was quickly rescued by an RBCN patrol boat.

On 5 June, the BC Defence Ministry grounded all RBCAF activity at Dease Lake and Terrace and recalled all RBCN vessels to their home ports, though allowing BCCG boats to remain active; this action was taken in order to give a concrete signal to the US that this incident was unintentional, and that BC had no desire to escalate the situation further. The US responded by issuing a similar order on the 6th, with USAF fighters returning from Juneau to Elmendorf AFB and the USN destroyer returning to Bremerton.

On 9 June, another meeting of foreign ministers took place at Calgary, at which an agreement was made to have a meeting between the US President and the Prime Minister of BC in Manila, Philippines on 14 June. Over the next three days an agreement was hammered out. Though the question of the border remained unresolved, Dixon Entrance and the other disputed waters were declared a "fisheries total exclusion zone" (FTEZ) in which all commercial fishing was outlawed. Further, the area was declared off limits to USN and RBCN ships except with prior approval of both parties, and USCG and BCCG vessels would jointly enforce the no-fishing rule in the FTEZ. The BC government also paid for the cost of repairs of the damage in downtown Juneau caused by the buzzing by RBCAF aircraft, though both sides agreed to assume the respective losses of materiel themselves (one BCCG helicopter and one USAF fighter destroyed). Since the implementation of the FTEZ the situation has settled considerably, and no major incidents have taken place in the nearly 30 years that have since passed. This has been facilitated by the joint patrols operated by the USCG and BCCG. When a violation is noted, both BCCG and USCG vessels intercept, and once the nationality of the violating vessel has been identified, the coast guard of that country handles the eviction.

Though tensions remained fairly high for about a year, by 1986 the situation had settled itself to such a degree that BC and the US reached an agreement on border crossings, whereby passports were no longer required at land crossings between the two countries.

Footnote: F/o Frank Hamilton, the pilot who shot down the USAF F-15, was given a formal reprimand and suspended from flying for six months starting on 22 June 1983. However, the USAF roundel "kill mark" that had been applied to his aircraft remained there until the aircraft was overhauled in 1985, and was re-applied after its restoration for display at the BC Aviation Museum in 2003 (the 20th anniversary of the Accidental War). Further, the kill is officially acknowledged by the RBCAF as a combat kill, though it is generally not publicised.
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« Reply #348 on: July 15, 2012, 02:01:04 PM »
Very very nice! :D

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« Reply #349 on: July 15, 2012, 11:41:53 PM »


The Indian Air Force first expressed interest in the Shukopoots in 1975, and after extensive negotiations and planning the IAF, Supermarine and RBCAF worked out an acquisition plan in in four stages. In 1976, a group of IAF pilots arrived in BC to undertake conversion training and instructor training on the Shukopoots FGA.2, followed by a second group in early 1977. The second stage was the delivery in 1977 of 20 Shukopoots FGA.3 and 10 Shukopoots T.3 by Supermarine to the Indian Air Force. These were delivered to India and assigned to an operational conversion unit where the newly-trained instructors trained other pilots and ground crews in flying and servicing the type.

Designated दंदशूकः (Daṃdaśūkaḥ - "Viper" in Sanskrit) by the IAF and Shukopoots FGA.13 by Supermarine, the IAF's version of the FGA.3 featured some differences from the BC version in terms of weapons-carrying abilities. Instead of the Tobin AC.2, the Vipers were fitted with two ADEN 30 mm cannon, and in terms of air-to-air missiles, Red Top capability was retained, and missiles made in BC by DHBC were supplied, however after arriving in India the aircraft were modified to operate with the Soviet R-60 AAM, as well. In the air-to-ground role, iron bombs and laser-guided bombs could be carried (though in India's case the LGBs were of Soviet origin), along with the AM.39 Exocet; capability for the Soviet Kh-23 ASM and UB-30 rocket pod was added after the aircraft arrived in India.

In 1978, forty more Vipers were supplied in kit form from Supermarine while Hindustan Aeronautics Ltd. (HAL) set up production facilities to manufacture the type under licence, and from 1979 a further 100 were added to the Indian inventory. In 1988 Indian Vipers were upgraded with the Spey 207 engine. The type is still operational, though is scheduled to be withdrawn by the end of 2013.



India also expressed significant interest in the air-superiority version of the Shukopoots, and pilots evaluated the new F.3 in BC in 1978. A similar plan to the Viper was worked out, and 30 Shukopoots F.13 - designated विद्युत् (Vidyut - "Flash" in Sanskrit) by the IAF - were delivered at the beginning of 1980.

As the USA was unwilling to allow export of the AN/APG-63 radar to India, the Indian Air Force purchased thirty Cyrano IV radars from France in 1979. These were shipped to BC, where they were integrated into the Vidyuts being built for the IAF. As with the Vipers, the Vidyut also had different weapons capabilities than the F.3s made for BC, including replacement of the Tobin cannon with the ADEN. Of the F.3's AAM capability, only Red Top and Skyflash were retained (the UK having permitted the export of BC-made Skyflash missiles to India), and after arriving in India, the aircraft were modified to operate with the Soviet-made R-60 and R-23 missiles as well.

HAL began licence production of the Vidyut in 1982, building 100 more for the IAF. The Indian-made Vidyuts replaced the Cyrano radar with the Thomson-CSF RDM, which type was retrofitted to the BC-made Vidyuts in 1983. Like the Vipers, the Vidyuts also underwent an upgrade program starting in 1988 that saw the replacement of the original Spey 205 with Spey 207 engines. The Vidyuts were in service until 2003, being replaced by the Su-30MKI.
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