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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #25 on: July 17, 2012, 05:43:26 PM »
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #26 on: November 11, 2012, 05:21:22 AM »
A couple of cool Tu-22M3 Videos for you:

Russian Tu-22M bomber


Russian TU 22M3
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2012, 05:05:40 PM »
Wow the old Backfire!
You can't but be impressed by its Soviet philosophy of brute-force to achieve it's high speed!!
Loved the videos thanks Greg!!

What about a Tu-22M4 variant GTX?
This would consist of a typical Soviet revamp of an existing design philosophy to squeeze that little bit more out of a proven design.
This would predominantly entail cleaning up the original 'boxy' aerodynamic Tu-22M ancestry = superior aerodynamics and an improved empty weight reduction to improve both fuel burn = greater range and better offensive war load! This would also contribute somewhat to reducing the Backfires RCS!
To start off what about a new twin tail fin configuration (aka MiG-31 or Su-27 style) in-place of the massive single slab design!!



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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2012, 06:10:40 PM »
I seem to recall reading that there already was a M4/M5 variant so maybe a M6 version.  I like the other ideas though.
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #29 on: November 15, 2012, 06:30:46 PM »
Tupolev Tu-22M6 it is then!!

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #30 on: March 09, 2013, 04:40:59 AM »
Further to the idea of a Delta Winged Tu-22, if one looks at this pic (below) and squints just enough, it looks like just such a creature ;):



Now if only someone did a Tu-22 in 1/48...sigh!
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #31 on: March 09, 2013, 10:50:55 AM »
^ Oh yeah!  :) Would need sizeable canards jut aft of the cockpits, of course!  ;)

Hmmm, Concordski wings on a Tu-22 fuselage, with stabilator-sized canards just behind the cockpit. Hmmmmm.

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Now if only someone did a Tu-22 in 1/481/144...sigh!

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #32 on: March 09, 2013, 11:01:47 AM »
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Now if only someone did a Tu-22 in 1/481/144...sigh!

Fixed that for you!  :)

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #33 on: March 19, 2013, 07:00:03 AM »
<...> Hmmm, Concordski wings on a Tu-22 fuselage, with stabilator-sized canards just behind the cockpit. Hmmmmm. <...>


Went ahead and did one. No clue whether the Tu-144 wings are in the same scale, though. Just went for something that looked about right.




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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #34 on: March 19, 2013, 07:22:33 AM »
My Tu-148 'Frisky' (1/144 Tu-22M scaled into a 1/72 interceptor) took a step closer to reality today as I have found a suitable cockpit to fit, a Mirage F.1.

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #35 on: March 19, 2013, 05:55:24 PM »
Damn that looks good! :)
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #36 on: March 20, 2013, 12:11:15 AM »
My Tu-148 'Frisky' (1/144 Tu-22M scaled into a 1/72 interceptor) took a step closer to reality today as I have found a suitable cockpit to fit, a Mirage F.1.
Yielding an aircraft roughly the size of the MiG-25?  Your choice of designation is interesting because Tupelov's "Aircraft 148" was a large supersonic v-g fighter to replace the Tu-28.

Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2013, 09:44:59 PM »
I have the Frisky next to a MiG-25U and a La-250 on the shelf and it is significantly smaller than both. Much more like a 'bulked up' Su-22 in terms of size. The 148 designator was definitely intentional. A later proposal for the Tu-148 in the book OKB Tupolev appears very much to be a scaled down Backfire. The nearest to it on the internet that I can find is here (toward the bottom of the page):

http://www.airvectors.net/avtu128.html

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2013, 11:31:39 PM »
I've got a nominally 1/126 display model kit of a Tu-26 "Backfire" from back in the early 80's when it was thought to have a cockpit and front section like the Blinder's.  I'm going to build it as a 1/144 Tu-26P "Firewall" long-range interceptor.

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #39 on: March 21, 2013, 05:45:08 AM »
Here is what I did with a 1/144th scale Backfire and a 1/72nd scale Flagon

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,28246.0.html
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #40 on: March 21, 2013, 07:44:49 AM »
^ Ahhhh!!! That is very similar to what I originally had in mind and it is probably your build that inspired me in the first place!

Was it just a "simple" cut and shut between the Flagon and Backfire? I have a spare Flagon and may try to replicate it if that is alright with you?

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #41 on: March 21, 2013, 11:46:02 PM »
^ Ahhhh!!! That is very similar to what I originally had in mind and it is probably your build that inspired me in the first place!

Was it just a "simple" cut and shut between the Flagon and Backfire? I have a spare Flagon and may try to replicate it if that is alright with you?
Go for it, it was a very easy piece of surgery, I used the minicraft tu-22 and a PM su-15/21. I should have bought another tu-22 when I saw one at a model show, but at the time was a bit strapped for cash, I would like to do a version with air to ground ordnance on it too, and paint it in a middle eastern colour scheme, perhaps Egyptian or Iraqi, or give it a jungle scheme and cartel markings.
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2013, 11:50:04 PM »
Up rate the engines on the Blinder.  Dedicated Recce version. 
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #43 on: March 24, 2013, 03:33:31 AM »
Maybe give the Tu-22 a makeover with an intake like the Sukhoi-Gulfstream S-21:

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #44 on: March 24, 2013, 08:10:01 AM »
From what I've read, Tupelov has studied inlets along those lines.  Say, have the final dual inlet resemble the intake from the F-107 (might be just the 1/72 inlet to use on a 1/144 Tu-22).

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #45 on: March 24, 2013, 09:17:10 AM »
3-engined Blinder:




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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #46 on: March 24, 2013, 11:24:46 AM »
Oh yeah!
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #47 on: March 24, 2013, 12:50:47 PM »
3-engined Blinder:
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Tis... tis beautiful!   :-*
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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #48 on: August 05, 2015, 04:00:38 AM »
Image of Tu-22 dropping bombs:

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Re: Tu-22/Tu-22M Blinder & Backfire Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #49 on: August 06, 2015, 01:23:19 PM »
How about refitting the Blinder with turbofans?

Given the podded nature of the blinder's engine installation, it couldn't be that hard to refit it with an afterburning version of the kolesov RD-36-51. At least I wouldn't think so.
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