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Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« on: December 24, 2011, 01:19:08 PM »
Over on the Modern Canadian Vehicles Discussion Forum one of the members by the name of Graeme Davidson has been working on an interesting project based on the AFV Club Centurion kit and some donor parts from the Heller AMX-13 DCA to create the Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG

There are a number of other interesting models to look at on this forum but it might require spending a lot of time browsing each topic.  So be forewarned :^)

Since Graeme has joined us now there is no need to leave the link to the broken image in this comment.  I defer you to Graeme's comment below to see additional images of his project.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2012, 07:33:10 AM by Jeffry Fontaine »
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2011, 03:13:14 PM »
Nice as.

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2011, 03:33:10 PM »
Neat build.  Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 07:21:28 AM »
Cheers Jeff, I've re-loaded the photos here:

Grafting the AMX turret to the Cent seemed an easy enough idea on paper..


 

some .040 strip makes up the height difference:
 

big wad of apoxie sculpt to fair in the DCA front/side with the Cent profile
 

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 07:26:50 AM »
Copious amount of Tamiya putty to further blend the transition


Realized some kind of additional sight system would be required, so I added a cylindrical base (I think its a 20mm gun trunnion from an AIFV)
 

Solderd up a wire basket for the right hull side. I had originally wanted to do with Cent' bins, but they just didn't look right.
 

Thinned Tamiya putty stippled on for a cast texture.
 

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #5 on: December 24, 2012, 07:30:10 AM »
All bits in place. Scratched an aircon unit on the rear hull, and some spare fuel can holders over the front fenders. I went for the simplified radar, ie the one without the housing for it when stowed in travel mode (the radar unit does pivot back to the horiztonal). 40mm barrels are from RB, and the optical sight is a Marder 1A2 unit turned on its face.

 


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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #6 on: December 24, 2012, 07:35:16 AM »
Went with the 3-colour cam scheme used by Canada from the 60-80's. In this case, I copied the RCD's plans for a Centurion hull, and just extrapolated the hull pattern up on to the turret. Colours are Tamiya NATO Black, Field Grey, and a mix of Olive drab plus some dark yellow. This is always my favourite stage of a WHIF, as its the first time everything gets visually tied together.

 

Some decals and detail painting, I would say circa 1975.
 

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #7 on: December 24, 2012, 07:36:21 AM »
Graeme,

Thanks for updating this thread with better image links.  I was impressed the first time I saw this on the Modern Canadian Vehicles Discussion Forum. 
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #8 on: December 24, 2012, 08:10:25 AM »
I love it! Like everything else I've seen from you so far, it looks very natural!

Kinda gives me some incentive to track down the required kits to build a BC Army Tyee tank... semi-relatedly, anyone know of any decent Saracen and Saladin kits?
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #9 on: December 24, 2012, 12:34:15 PM »
Very nice, and thoroughly believable.

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #10 on: December 24, 2012, 12:55:48 PM »
Yeesh... thanks for that. Is the Tamiya kit still available? Also, what about other scales? (1/72 maybe?)
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #11 on: December 24, 2012, 01:09:48 PM »
Great to see this twin-40 Centurion build again  :)
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #12 on: December 24, 2012, 10:45:20 PM »
Thanks gang,

to add to Jeff's opening post, there are some really sharp What-if's on the MCV DG. But Network-54 can be a bit of a pain to sift through. I offer this tip - if you type "Wotif" into the search bar, you should get a number of hits going back a few years. No promises if the images are still active though.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/169232/search
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2012, 01:14:42 AM »
The turret alone is a work of art, and I love the camo!!  :)
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #14 on: December 26, 2012, 09:20:40 AM »
Thanks!

I could have sworn I uploaded the finished pics already. Must have just been using the preview instead of post button  ???







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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #15 on: December 26, 2012, 10:47:54 AM »
Gorgeous! What's the marking on the sides of the radar mount?
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #16 on: December 26, 2012, 10:50:17 AM »
Man that's nice!!!!  What's the time frame?  I know you mentioned the camo is from the 60's-80's scheme but what about your build?
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #17 on: December 26, 2012, 11:24:18 PM »
Man that's nice!!!!  What's the time frame?  I know you mentioned the camo is from the 60's-80's scheme but what about your build?

I'll say its right near the end of its service life, maybe 1975-1979. The Cent twin forty would have been scrapped along with the MBT fleet when the Leopard 1 fleet arrived in 1979. Which brings me to a future Whif - that being a AD system on a Leopard 1 Hull using mid-70's R&D. It would probably end up looking a lot like a Gepard in Canadian paint & markings. But I wonder what a triple or quad Blowpipe SAM rig would have looked like in place of one of the 35mm guns?

 
Gorgeous! What's the marking on the sides of the radar mount?


Random scibbles from a Challenger 1 decal sheet. We had a similar data plate on the ADATS radar housing.

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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #18 on: December 27, 2012, 09:10:52 AM »
Random scibbles from a Challenger 1 decal sheet. We had a similar data plate on the ADATS radar housing.

Thanks ... I can stop squinting at it now  ;D
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #19 on: January 08, 2013, 10:51:50 AM »
Outstanding build!
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #20 on: January 08, 2013, 08:34:39 PM »
Excellent effort!
Excellent result!!!

This looks like the real thing!
Pity the Australian Army never had twelve of these to support the then Centurion's


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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #21 on: January 08, 2013, 08:42:42 PM »
That looks so right - nice one Gingie!  :)



Yeesh... thanks for that. Is the Tamiya kit still available? Also, what about other scales? (1/72 maybe?)


Airfix do the ex-JB ones in 1/76th scale:

http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/military-vehicles/military-transporters/a02325-saladin-mkii-armoured-car-a02325/
http://www.airfix.com/airfix-products/military-vehicles/military-transporters/a02328-saracen-apc-mk-123-a02328/

There is a problem with the way the suspension sits on these kits, but Wee Friends do a conversion kit. Go to the following link, download the list, and it's item WBM76027:

http://eshop.friendshipmodels.org.uk/epages/BT3667.sf/en_GB/?ObjectPath=/Shops/BT3667/Categories/Wee_Friends/Braille_scale_172nd__176th_scale/List

That Wee Friends site is well worth a browse around, by the way.


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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #22 on: January 09, 2013, 04:05:54 AM »
Very nice build Gingie, I have a soft spot for SPAAG's at the moment, and this has got the bottom jaw dangling  :-*
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #23 on: January 12, 2013, 09:51:00 PM »
Sweet build, Gingie! Looks like a shoulda-been as much as a whif.
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Re: Centurion Twin Forty SPAAG from Modern Canadian Vehicles Forum
« Reply #24 on: January 13, 2013, 03:27:45 AM »
Nice! Very, very nice!  Anything to do with Centurions gets my interest and this really has that period look and feel.  Very impressive, I wish I had thought of it!!  :)
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