Author Topic: Modelnut53's Canard P-38  (Read 7097 times)

Offline Modelnut53

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Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« on: April 01, 2015, 07:21:09 PM »
Has anyone considered a canard layout on lengthened fuselage with shorter booms.  Some time ago I built a Lightning in this configuration using the Monogram 1/48 Kit.
I moved the radiators to the wing roots between the body and the engines (similar to the Mosquito), cut the tail plane into two equal parts and used these for the canards.  I then added a taller rudder scavenged from a 1/24 scale Mustang kit that wasn't worth building.  At present I am rebuilding this model.  I have increased the length of the engine nacelle to streamline it more and have constructed contra-props for it.  I am in the process of replacing the cockpit canopy with a Falcon P-47 canopy and am seriously thinking of giving a set of WW 2 RNZAF decals, just to be different.  Would post a picture when finished, but stuck on the file size restrictions.  Basically all my pictures are too big to post.  Any advice appreciated.

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2015, 02:36:56 AM »
We want to see pics!  Try using one of the file sharing services such as photobucket.  Failing that, email me the photos
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2015, 04:48:14 PM »
Finally got it right for size.
These are pictures of the first incarnation of this model.
Will post updated pictures when refurbishment is completed.
Many thanks for the tip.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2015, 05:38:47 PM by Modelnut53 »

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2015, 09:38:50 PM »
Love it!

Wouldn't the Lightning be perfect for the extended service life build, RR Darts instead of Allisons, radar in the nose instead of guns and a brace of Sparrows or Falcons under the wings.

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2015, 12:19:07 AM »
Wicked design!  >:D
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #5 on: April 03, 2015, 06:35:49 AM »
Love it!!!!!!  8)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #6 on: April 03, 2015, 07:35:08 AM »
Tandem wing.  Extend the body forward, add another cockpit and wing section with engines, fare in the forward cockpit nacelle to the extended body and you have a tandem P-38 with 4 engines, now to solve the problem air flow.
The wings would have to be on different levels in relation to each other, one high, one low mounted.
But you get the idea
Great for long distance escort, recon or pathfinder duties.
« Last Edit: April 03, 2015, 07:46:41 AM by Modelnut53 »

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2015, 10:21:55 AM »
^^^sorta of a bi-plane p-38 ?
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2015, 01:08:46 PM »
No, not a bi-plane but a tandem wing.
High mounted at the rear and low mounted at the front.
Boulton-Paul did a design for a tandem wing bomber during WW 2 (British Secret Projects - Bombers).

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #9 on: April 06, 2015, 02:58:11 AM »
 :)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #10 on: April 11, 2015, 09:08:29 AM »
As promised.
This is the refurbished model.
Comments welcome.
Added P-47 canopy, lengthened engine nacelles and fitted contra-props.
Plus painted in war scheme and put in RNZAF Pacific markings as a Corsair replacement, maybe.

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #11 on: April 11, 2015, 12:49:13 PM »
Way cool  8) 8) 8)

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #12 on: April 11, 2015, 01:18:04 PM »
This is wonderful  :-* I can't believe how exotic and clever this is  :)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #13 on: April 11, 2015, 03:13:33 PM »
 :)

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #14 on: April 11, 2015, 04:38:28 PM »
I love your model very much! Thanks! :-* :-*
I will check if I have not made such a drawing on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit then I may draw a whole family of dérivatives, thanks again!

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #15 on: April 12, 2015, 03:40:51 AM »
 :)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #16 on: April 14, 2015, 01:09:49 AM »
I love your model very much! Thanks! :-* :-*
I will check if I have not made such a drawing on my site http://www.kristofmeunier.fr/#Sit then I may draw a whole family of dérivatives, thanks again!
I have found one such triplex-boom canard P-38 (left below) but your one is very different (right below), and I added an intermediate (central below):

Thanks again! :-* :-* :-*

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #17 on: April 14, 2015, 02:21:11 AM »
The Zwilling department of Modelnut's Aircraft Co. proposed 3 versions:

The XMCP-38Z has been built in 3 copies, the YMCP-38Z in 38 copies, and finally the MCP-38ZA in 388 copies. Glory to Modelnut's Co.! ;)

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #18 on: April 14, 2015, 06:03:51 AM »
Wicked !

That is a great look

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2015, 02:37:07 PM »
Love it.
Looks like the start of a family tree.

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2015, 03:15:06 PM »
Thanks a lot! ;)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #21 on: April 18, 2015, 10:12:07 PM »
Love it.
Looks like the start of a family tree.
Thanks!
Uh, will you accept even the heretic asymmetric part of the family? ;) :

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #22 on: May 18, 2015, 10:30:30 PM »
In the year 2000 in France, my friend Daniel Joathon invented a Spitfire similar to your canard P-38...

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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #23 on: May 18, 2015, 11:50:26 PM »
Now that's cool!  8)
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Re: Modelnut53's Canard P-38
« Reply #24 on: May 24, 2015, 09:47:35 PM »
What a killer concept!

Adding those cool RNZAF markings really pulls this baby together for me.

Nice work!

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