Beyond The Sprues

Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Aero-space => Topic started by: GTX_Admin on June 09, 2012, 05:13:10 AM

Title: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 09, 2012, 05:13:10 AM
Hi folks,

A thread for your Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration.

(http://www.cybermodeler.com/aircraft/meteor/images/cos_meteorf3_01.jpg)
Regards,

Greg
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 09, 2012, 05:15:40 AM
Here's a few to start:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/MeteorBG.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/Meteorp.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/mvm.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/MeteorB2.jpg)

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/melbsyd/MeteorB2TP.jpg)





Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 09, 2012, 01:38:44 PM
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_F9-40_SIX-GUN_01.png)
Original six-gun design

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_F9-40M_01.png)
Metrovick F.2 engines

Variations on a theme:
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_PXXX_001.png)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_P262_P300_01.png)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_P497_01.png)

(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_P504_01.png)

Roughly 'Meteor-ish':
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/GLOSTER_P228_P231_01.png)

Also considered: an 8-gun ground attack fighter consisting of an F.8 fuselage mated to NF.11 wings.

I've got some more stuff I'll dig out later.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on June 09, 2012, 02:21:28 PM
That Mistel lower-component as a "prone-pilot" version would go nice :)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on June 09, 2012, 02:45:10 PM
Bunch of neat designs.  Can't pick one favorite.  Maybe P262 and P300.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on June 09, 2012, 10:54:42 PM
Had hoped some years back that Tamiya would release  a Meteor F.4 so I could do the P.203.    I'm saving my CA issues for other things.   
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 12:54:56 AM
I made a start on a Metro-Vick F9-40M, they were originally known as the Rampage which was one of the many code names the jets had before they got called Meteor.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:15:15 AM
Useful drawing of the Trent Meteor:

(http://rvresin.com/images/gloster_meteor_48_5.jpg)
(http://rvresin.com/images/gloster_meteor_48_8.jpg)
(http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/meteor_F1_Trent.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:21:47 AM
Anyone ever done an operational Naval Meteor?

(http://www.rovermg.ru/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/Gloster-Meteor_01.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 03:22:32 AM
That will be very useful Greg, Becaus ethe Unicraft conversion has the propellers all wrong.  I've found some Aeroclub five blade props which are just a little bigger in diameter than those shown which come of a Short Sherpa.  They're just long enough so I can re-profile the blade tips

Top pic of the Trent Meteor I've started and below a pic of the real engine and prop.  BTW, even though the blade shape looks like those found on a later mark Spitfire, you can't use a scaled down set on the Trent because the prop turns in the opposite direction
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 03:24:06 AM
I was just going to post a couple of pics of the Sea Meteor, it used a DH Hornet arrestor hook
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 03:25:57 AM
How about this radar tested version
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:26:56 AM
Glad to be of service.

Another idea:  Gloster Meteors operating over Japan in '46:

(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedkingdom/aircraft/bomber/avro-lancaster-bomber/avro-lancaster-refueling-a-meteor-1949-01.png)
(http://www.wwiivehicles.com/unitedkingdom/aircraft/bomber/avro-lancaster-bomber/avro-lancaster-refueling-a-meteor-1949-02.png)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:31:29 AM
Let's take that prone Meteor a little further:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/UAS%20etc/ProneMeteor-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 03:42:35 AM
Some more Naval Metoer photos:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/NavalMeteor2.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/NavalMeteor1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on June 10, 2012, 04:16:42 AM
Off topic, but what is the Lancaster-based gas can named?

Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 05:40:07 AM
Combine Trent Meteor with later Gloster G.44 Reaper:

(http://www.aviastar.org/gallery/012/012_8.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 05:45:04 AM
Off topic, but what is the Lancaster-based gas can named?

Um! a Lancaster --- yes - really.  Flight Refueling Ltd had it converted with the blunt nose for their 'probe-&-drogue' tests
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on June 10, 2012, 05:54:16 AM
I have three Meteor projects on my one-of-these-days list:

Reaper: as per the real Reaper, but with NF.11 outer wings as well to give 8 x guns.

Ripper: tankbuster with Trent turboprops, tip tanks, and a big centreline gun like the top profile from Greg's original post.

Raptor: night-fighter with the inaccurate longest nose option from the Matchbox kit and big, early AAMs on the wingtips (a single-seater really was used for early Red Dean trials whilst the latter was still a Folland project).

The idea is to do all three in company demonstrator-style colours with civilian reg.codes (G-REAP etc...) then put them on a tarmac base with a barrier, big name & info placards, and some suits and punters as if it's a display at an airshow. The backstory is that the RAF buy the DH.110 Vixen instead of the Javelin, thus leaving Glosters to rather desperately toute "advanced" Meteors to anyone who's interested, shortly before they go bust.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on June 10, 2012, 06:00:19 AM
Re the Trent Meteor: I'm puzzled. All the pics and drawings I can find, and that pic of the engine, suggest that the prop axis was well above the axis of the engine and the wing leading edge, yet the RV Resins drawings posted here seem to show the prop co-axial with the engine and in line with the wing leading edge.

What gives? ???
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 06:19:12 AM
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Artic/Escanear0004.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Artic/Escanear.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 06:48:16 AM
Re the Trent Meteor: I'm puzzled. All the pics and drawings I can find, and that pic of the engine, suggest that the prop axis was well above the axis of the engine and the wing leading edge, yet the RV Resins drawings posted here seem to show the prop co-axial with the engine and in line with the wing leading edge.

What gives? ???

It is quite possible the RV Resins dwg is wrong, below is a side view of the Unicraft conversion which has the prop center well above the wing leading edge.  Even though the Trent Meteor had the same extended u/c that the Metro-Vick Meteor, it still needed the prop center well above the wing to get prop clearance with the ground. The prop though was still around 7 feet in diameter
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 06:49:56 AM
Quite possibly - I have found errors in some of their drawings before...though they do produce nice drawings...
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ChernayaAkula on June 10, 2012, 06:57:52 AM
I'd be cautious with the RV drawings. I've read a  review of their F-4 drawings on a German board that stated there are some serious issues with those plans, getting rather basic variant differences wrong. USAF parts on USN/USMC variants, squashed canopy and mixed up nozzles. The review also said the Revell 1/72 F-4F fits the plans rather nicely. That's not encouraging. While it's a nice kit, it's not all that good a representation of the plane.
Their MiG-21 drawings aren't much better.
Personally, I think the cockpit area in some of their MiG-23 plans is also rather suspect, with the whole windscreen assembly sitting on top of the fuselage (as opposed to worked into it) and the angle of the windscreen wrong (too obtuse, I think).
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: raafif on June 10, 2012, 07:00:22 AM
Let's take that prone Meteor a little further:

([url]http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/UAS%20etc/ProneMeteor-1.jpg[/url])


  Gloster Gander (after the goose) but I guess, with such a long neck, they'd prefer the "Airborne Swan".
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 07:15:03 AM
Speaking of the Trent Meteor, has anyone ever seen a Keyboys 1/48 conversion:

(http://www.maroon.dti.ne.jp/akatomboworks/event/TrentF1.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 10, 2012, 07:22:06 AM
I wonder about a follow on to the Trent Meteor with twin RR Darts?
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 10:21:36 AM
I've given that some thought and as much as I like the idea, the Dart is just too big I think.  Plus if you go by what is mentioned in the Rolls Royce book on the Crecy where they say that a pound of thrust is about the equivalent of one hp, even the most powerful Dart (2900 shp) would have been underpowered compared to the later Meteor marks with Derwents.

I think an airframe bigger than the Meteor would be better though, but then not as big as a Canberra either
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Rickshaw on June 10, 2012, 04:36:12 PM
Whence is your dart sourced?  Is it the Heritage one for the Dakota?
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 10, 2012, 10:24:57 PM
Yes Brian, it's a copy of the Heritage Dakota Dart conversion. I've since hacked it around a bit, see my Sunderland project here.

Grey nacelle is the original top photo, middle photo is what I've done to the copy and it's shorter too. I also have the Cavalier Mustang conversion heritage does which might be a better base.  Even then it's quite a big lump (bottom pic)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 11, 2012, 03:30:22 AM
Re the Keyboys 1/48 Trent Meteor Conversion, I managed to get in touch with the Keyboys Manager, Hiroshi Kawashita, overnight (very fast response!).  The conversions are available for 2800 JPY + postage.  Here is another image showing the conversion.

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/Artic/trent_inst_page04.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on June 11, 2012, 03:49:23 AM
I don't know Greg, it doesn't look right.  The intake looks way to big to me but it might just be the photos. The propeller blades are all the wrong shape too, they should look like a Spitfire Mk.XIV in shape but of course the opposite pitch
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 11, 2012, 03:54:57 AM
Maybe...but if one is whiffing something, then it might not matter... ;)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on June 11, 2012, 04:28:43 AM
Definitely needs some wing tip mounted fuel tanks with that Trent conversion. 
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on June 16, 2012, 06:15:40 AM
Meteor with Me262 style seating arrangement:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/More%20Creations/Centmet.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on June 16, 2012, 07:20:41 AM
P.203 + tip tanks.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: tsrjoe on July 24, 2012, 03:23:28 AM
Hypothetical model of a 'Meteor flying boat'...

cheers, Joe
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on August 06, 2012, 12:57:27 PM
Does anyone do a conversion for the Beryl-powered prototype?  I happen to rather like the lines of that one.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 06, 2012, 03:24:50 PM
Does anyone do a conversion for the Beryl-powered prototype?  I happen to rather like the lines of that one.

What scale?
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on August 08, 2012, 10:07:51 AM
Does anyone do a conversion for the Beryl-powered prototype?  I happen to rather like the lines of that one.

What scale?
I'll go for "what's available".  I prefer 1/72 but enjoy 1/48 just as much.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 08, 2012, 05:42:21 PM
How would you go modifying some Jumo 004s from a Me262 to create an approximation of it?
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 08, 2012, 09:31:52 PM
Looking at some photos of it in Tony Buttler & Phil Butler's Aerofax book Evan, it looks like a fairly straight forward conversion. All you need is an Meteor F.4 kit and slightly modify the nacelles. The circle of the nacalles weren't equal about the wing though and were slightly bigger in diameter but the top line is about where the top of the Derwent engines were.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on August 09, 2012, 02:51:24 AM
How would you go modifying some Jumo 004s from a Me262 to create an approximation of it?

The 262 Jumo 004 'nacelles' are not even close in shape to those of the Metrovick F.2/2 powered
Meteor.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on August 09, 2012, 03:03:22 PM
Well, I did ask "How would you go...?"  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on August 09, 2012, 08:58:50 PM
The nacelles for the Beryl look to be about the same length as a Meteor Mk.4/8 nacelles only the Beryl nacelles are quite a bit bigger in diameter, the wing does not attach on the center line though, they attach further to the top and as I attempted to say previously, the top profile line of the two nacelles are at about the same level.  Although this means the nacelle hangs lower, it's not like how the Metro-Vick powered F9/40 had them, and it appears that standard u/c was used judging by where the wheel axle is to the lower edge of the u/c bay door.

Re-reading the Aerofax book (Gloster Meteor) it says the nacelles inner structure was made big enough for other engines to be installed and if you were to look at pics of the Avon and Sapphire powered prototypes you can see the nacelle looks very similar.  The differences being the air inlet and exhaust nozzles are just bigger in diameter.

Here's a pic of an F9/40 which was used for nacelle shape experiments, I'm building this from some photos that appeared in an Air-britain article (I think -- it could have been another book --  it's been a while since I started this Meteor prototype project)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on November 05, 2012, 03:48:31 AM
The Norwegians flew the PR.3 for quite some time during the Cold War.    8)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on November 05, 2012, 05:15:36 AM
Looking at some photos of it in Tony Buttler & Phil Butler's Aerofax book Evan, it looks like a fairly straight forward conversion. All you need is an Meteor F.4 kit and slightly modify the nacelles. The circle of the nacalles weren't equal about the wing though and were slightly bigger in diameter but the top line is about where the top of the Derwent engines were.
I thin we're talking about two different Meteors here.  The one I'm talking about is the prototype where the axial-flow engines are slung under the wing, not installed through it.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on November 05, 2012, 07:14:22 AM
Do you mean this one Evan, with the Metrovick F.2 engine
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on November 05, 2012, 07:20:46 AM
Because Tony Buttler/Phil Butler's Aerofax book says this is the Beryl Meteor
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on November 05, 2012, 08:29:20 AM
Do you mean this one Evan, with the Metrovick F.2 engine
Yes, that one.  I was under the impression, mistaken or not, that the Metrovick F.2 was the Beryl.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on November 05, 2012, 06:00:16 PM
Do you mean this one Evan, with the Metrovick F.2 engine
Yes, that one.  I was under the impression, mistaken or not, that the Metrovick F.2 was the Beryl.

I wasn't sure that the first engine engine had a name Evan, but reading about it the engine that's in the underslung nacelle was designated the F.2/1. It had a nine stage compressor.
The Metrovick F.2/4 was called the Beryl and it had a ten stage compressor.  It was almost twice as powerful as the F.2/1.

According to the Aerofax book, the nacelle that you see in the through-wing design was used to test the Sapphire too, and then the Avon although there's some slight differences to them.  The wing though is not set quite dead center on the round nacelle of these prototypes, it looks like the bottom edge of the chord is on the centerline with the top edge being up towards the top of the nacelle giving it a slight underslung appearance.

But to answer your question, I don't think there's any conversion on the aftermarket.  At least I haven't seen any.

Building the one I'm doing I found the shape look a little like the BAC 1-11 engine nacelle and that is what I've used as a base. I did though, use the very rear end of a Supermarine Attacker fuselage for the exhaust area of the nacelle. 

Another thing that I discovered was that this F.2/1 prototype used the same extended u/c legs that the Trent turbo-prop prototype used.  The u/c raised the aircraft up about half a main wheel rim diameter.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on November 06, 2012, 04:04:52 AM
Another difference between the F.2 series 1 engine and the F.2 series 4(Beryl) was that the former
had a two-stage turbine, the Beryl had a single stage turbine.

The flight tests of the F.2/1 in F.9/40M (DG204/G) were disappointing "... due, it was later
thought, to the use of short, underwing nacelles that caused excessive air spill at high
speeds." - Turbojet; Vol.1, Antony L. Kay, Crowood, 2007

So there's a Whif potential, build a version with lengthened nacelles.

The drawing of DG204/G that I posted on page one of this thread is the best I've ever seen
of the F.2 powered aircraft, I have a larger version of the scan if anyone wants a copy.

Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Jeffry Fontaine on January 02, 2013, 02:05:57 PM
1:48th scale. 

Classic Airframes Meteor FR Mk 9 + Tamiya Meteor F.3 = Meteor PR.10 built by Pat Earing (http://www.hyperscale.com/2013/features/meteorpr1048pe_1.htm) showing some images of his in progress work and the finished model. 
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on November 03, 2013, 06:01:33 AM
Perhaps the aircraft could not lift this but use a late NF-type Meteor to lift a couple wingtip mounted Firestreaks as a missile rail development/test aircraft.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on November 03, 2013, 06:41:32 AM
Perhaps the aircraft could not lift this but use a late NF-type Meteor to lift a couple wingtip mounted Firestreaks as a missile rail development/test aircraft.

According to Phil Butler & Tony Buttler's Aerofax book on the Meteor, three Meteor NF Mk.11's were used in Firestreak trials ----
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on November 03, 2013, 12:13:27 PM
Quote
Perhaps the aircraft could not lift this but use a late NF-type Meteor to lift a couple wingtip mounted Firestreaks as a missile rail development/test aircraft.

According to Phil Butler & Tony Buttler's Aerofax book on the Meteor, three Meteor NF Mk.11's were used in Firestreak trials ----


 :o ;D ;D :).  Oh?  I had no idea. But that doesn't take much with me.  :-[
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on November 03, 2013, 01:57:46 PM
Quote
Perhaps the aircraft could not lift this but use a late NF-type Meteor to lift a couple wingtip mounted Firestreaks as a missile rail development/test aircraft.

According to Phil Butler & Tony Buttler's Aerofax book on the Meteor, three Meteor NF Mk.11's were used in Firestreak trials ----


 :o ;D ;D :).  Oh?  I had no idea. But that doesn't take much with me.  :-[

If it's Brit fighter tech between 1945 and 1980, there was probably a Meatbox involved somewhere.  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Rickshaw on November 03, 2013, 02:55:25 PM
Quote
Perhaps the aircraft could not lift this but use a late NF-type Meteor to lift a couple wingtip mounted Firestreaks as a missile rail development/test aircraft.

According to Phil Butler & Tony Buttler's Aerofax book on the Meteor, three Meteor NF Mk.11's were used in Firestreak trials ----


 :o ;D ;D :).  Oh?  I had no idea. But that doesn't take much with me.  :-[

If it's Brit fighter tech between 1945 and 1980, there was probably a Meatbox involved somewhere.  ;D

Or a Canberra...  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 04, 2013, 04:06:18 AM
I suppose I ought to sling this into the mix............  ;)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on November 04, 2013, 03:16:45 PM
 :)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on November 07, 2013, 08:10:32 AM
Hmmm.....Airfix say their announcement this coming Saturday is ''hot''.

Perhaps, just perhaps, it is a Meteor. :) :)

But I'm merely waxing chatty.  :o 
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Empty Handed on November 08, 2013, 07:21:40 AM
Oooo I love the PR.19b!
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2013, 01:20:42 PM
Oooo I love the PR.19b!

If you're in the UK it'll be on the Whiff SIG stand at Telford this weekend.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on November 08, 2013, 01:53:01 PM
Soooo Sweeeet  :-*
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Empty Handed on November 08, 2013, 08:03:28 PM
Oooo I love the PR.19b!
If you're in the UK it'll be on the Whiff SIG stand at Telford this weekend.

I won't be able to make Telford unfortunately (ironically I'll be closer this year than I have ever been  :-\ ). Thanks for the pic though. It's a model that certainly isn't wanting for panache!
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Rickshaw on November 09, 2013, 11:46:11 AM
There was of course the somewhat less famous Australian version of the PR.19 - the PR.29! (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2602.0)

http://imageshack.us/a/img217/5618/cimg1220a.jpg (http://imageshack.us/a/img217/5618/cimg1220a.jpg)
(http://imageshack.us/a/img217/5618/cimg1220a.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 11, 2014, 05:35:10 AM
Some possible inspiration for you:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/NeneMeteor_zpse7121e3d.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/SaphireMeteor_zps64688614.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/GoblinMeteor_zps11c1935c.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/sidebysideMeteor_zps4d2d7feb.jpg)

And also these:

(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/SaphireMeteor2_zps0ba96551.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/AvonMeteor_zpsa30edd39.jpg)
(http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e68/GTwiner/RamjetMeteor_zps2b03a8a7.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 11, 2014, 06:23:04 AM
While we are on the Meteor subject.
I had to include a reminder of what Douglas built using wings of the Meteor !

http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2747.0 (http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=2747.0)

Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 11, 2014, 06:35:39 AM
I am seriously tempted to have a go at the side-by-side seating one.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: PR19_Kit on January 11, 2014, 07:51:41 AM
I am seriously tempted to have a go at the side-by-side seating one.

That does look good, doesn't it? Maybe using a Vampire T11 canopy? But it'd be a real squeeze in there unless they widened the fuselage some.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 11, 2014, 09:13:59 AM
Bigger engines and tip tanks make all aircraft look and perform better.  ;)

Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Big Gimper on January 11, 2014, 09:34:55 AM
I am seriously tempted to have a go at the side-by-side seating one.

That does look good, doesn't it? Maybe using a Vampire T11 canopy? But it'd be a real squeeze in there unless they widened the fuselage some.

A F3D Skynight canopy would work if you can find one.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on January 11, 2014, 02:19:23 PM
Odd thought - large nacelles like those for the Sapphire and Avon, but used to test a dry J79 early in the development phase, complete with GE logo on the tail, similar to what was done with the #1 F-101A.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on September 27, 2015, 05:06:57 AM
Perhaps Airfix' new Meteor will have to become some ;D bestriped bellyed pilotless test airceaft.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 09, 2016, 05:25:39 AM
RAN Sea Meteors on HMAS Sydney in Singapore on the way to Korean War... ;)

(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-new-meteor-jets-for-korea-lined-up-on-the-flight-deck-of-unicorn-at-singapore-042801.jpg)

...in reality, this shows new RAAF Meteors aboard HMS Unicorn in Singapore on the way to Korea in 1951
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on January 09, 2016, 08:58:45 AM
Something that's been on my to-do list since forever is a trio of 'advanced' Meteor prototypes as displayed at an air show where Gloster are desperately trying to flog them having lost the RAF night-fighter contract to the DH.110:

Gloster Reaper ground attack aircraft

Airfix Mk.8 with belly tank removed, tip tanks fitted, bomb pylons under fuselage, NF.11 outer wings (8 x guns!), non-British rocket pods on outer wing pylons, green/brown/gray 'European' cammo, but glossy with civilian registration G-REAP and company logos.


Gloster Raptor night fighter

Matchbox NF.14 with the incorrect very long nose, no guns, F-89-style rocket pods or 'very British' dummy missiles (square fins, conical noses) on wingtips. Gloss black with a red stripe, civilian reg. G-RAPT and company logos.


Gloster Ripper anti-tank aircraft

Special Hobby Trent Meteor wings and engines on F.8 fuselage and tail, tip tanks, no nose guns, no belly tank, big recoilless cannon in belly fairing. Sand and brown 'Middle Eastern' gloss cammo with civilian reg. G-RIPP and company logos.





Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 09, 2016, 10:32:27 AM
RAN Sea Meteors on HMAS Sydney in Singapore on the way to Korean War... ;)

...in reality, this shows new RAAF Meteors aboard HMS Unicorn in Singapore on the way to Korea in 1951

Never seen a sentence or nuttin about Meteors in Korea.  They ever score an air-to-air kill be it prop or jet ?
Must have done their share of strafing.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on January 09, 2016, 10:59:06 PM
RAN Sea Meteors on HMAS Sydney in Singapore on the way to Korean War... ;)

...in reality, this shows new RAAF Meteors aboard HMS Unicorn in Singapore on the way to Korea in 1951

Never seen a sentence or nuttin about Meteors in Korea.  They ever score an air-to-air kill be it prop or jet ?
Must have done their share of strafing.

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1297&bih=703&q=RAAF+Meteors+in+Korea&oq=RAAF+Meteors+in+Korea&gs_l=img.12...1733.9702.0.11365.21.9.0.12.12.0.185.1517.0j9.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..10.11.1515.zl_0B-_gml4 (https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1297&bih=703&q=RAAF+Meteors+in+Korea&oq=RAAF+Meteors+in+Korea&gs_l=img.12...1733.9702.0.11365.21.9.0.12.12.0.185.1517.0j9.9.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..10.11.1515.zl_0B-_gml4)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 10, 2016, 03:31:44 AM
Never seen a sentence or nuttin about Meteors in Korea.  They ever score an air-to-air kill be it prop or jet ?
Must have done their share of strafing.


RAAF 77 SQN used Gloster Meteor Mk.8 jet fighters operationally in the Korean war from July 29th, 1951.  They were initially used in an air to air role, but following contacts with MiG-15s that went against the RAAF including the loss of at least one aircraft, they were switched to a close support and ground attack role.  The squadron became very effective in this new role. The Meteor had good low-level performance and its sturdy construction meant it could withstand a lot of damage. The armament of 4 x 20mm cannons along with under wing bombs or rockets packed a suitable punch for ground attack missions too. As a mark of respect for the squadron on November 1st, 1951, the South Korean government presented them with a Presidential Citation for “exceptionally meritorious service and heroism“. Amongst the many military awards given to the pilots of the squadron for their service the most prominent were the 47 Distinguished Flying Crosses for bravery.

The Gloster Meteor remained as the RAAF’s frontline aircraft for the remainder of the war and flew the bulk of the 18,872 sorties conducted by Number 77 Squadron throughout the Korean War (3,872 sorties were flown in Mustangs and 15,000 in the Meteor). During those missions they destroyed 3,700 structures, around 1,500 vehicles enemy vehicles, 20 train engines (along with numerous carriages) and 16 bridges.  Moreover, although the Meteor was switched to close support and ground attack roles, the RAAF pilots did manage to shoot down 3 MiG-15’s for a loss of 5 Meteors in air to air combat.  Perhaps the most famous aerial engagement involving RAAF Meteors was on March 27th, 1953 when 2 Gloster Meteor Mk.8’s flown by Sergeants George Hale and David Irlam were conducting a reconnaissance mission near Sinmak in North Korea. Hale spotted and engaged what he thought was a single MiG-15. It turned out to be 3 of them! He shot one down and then 2 more MiG-15’s joined the engagement. Irlam’s Meteor was damaged and he had to leave the battle. Hale managed to damage another MiG-15 and fought it out with them until he ran out of ammunition and then disengaged and made a low-level return to the base at Kimpo (he was credited with 1 victory and 1 damaged MiG).  His aircraft “Halestorm” is seen below and is often seen modelled.  George Hale is the last Australian pilot to date to engage in air to air combat.

(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/halestorm.jpg?w=690&h=492)(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-meteor-halestorm.jpg?w=1384&h=1052)
(http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l261/SpazSinbad/GeorgeHaleHaleStormMeteorTemoraScre.jpg)

(http://media.moddb.com/images/groups/1/3/2044/RAAFMeteorHalestormB4nAfter.jpg)(http://i295.photobucket.com/albums/mm145/ryde007/IMG_3366_zps6uj3zjox.jpg)

There is actually a Meteor in Australia painted to represent Hailstorm:

(https://c2.staticflickr.com/8/7343/9694062699_720daf0a5c_b.jpg)
(http://www.thebaseleg.com/Aviation/Williamtown-2010/i-DJswhQW/0/L/007w-L.jpg)

Here are some other images of RAAF Meteors in Korea:

(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-gloster-meteor.jpg?w=1392&h=854)
(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-gloster-meteor-korea.jpg?w=1384&h=1004)
(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-meteor-korean-kid-1952-p03741_002.jpg?w=690&h=1041)
(https://acesflyinghigh.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/raaf-meteors-kimpo-korea-1jan1952-awm.jpg?w=690&h=522)
(http://no77.squadronassociation.org/gallery/images/10%20-%20NEWHAM%20&%20JONES%20-%20Korea%201953.JPG)
(http://korean-war.commemoration.gov.au/stalemate-in-korean-war-1952-1953/images/JK0351-meteor-green-77squad-520.jpg)

There's also this oil painting by Ivor Hele which I have seen:

(http://korean-war.commemoration.gov.au/stalemate-in-korean-war-1952-1953/images/ART40304-painting-meteorjets-931.jpg)
Return of the Meteor jets, Kimpo, Korea.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: CiTrus90 on January 10, 2016, 06:07:51 PM
I am seriously tempted to have a go at the side-by-side seating one.


...adding to the temptation >:D

(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4a1c/gcg3fdyhsdyz3ta4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/gcg3fdyhsdyz3ta/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_1.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cfae/l3ywcgyfedwgyaq4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/l3ywcgyfedwgyaq/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_2.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/3ce6/lc0dfico1ol917m4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/lc0dfico1ol917m/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_3.jpg)
(https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d41/5c5fsu2jdfsz2wg4g.jpg) (http://www.mediafire.com/view/5c5fsu2jdfsz2wg/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_4.jpg)

;)

Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 11, 2016, 01:55:45 AM
You're evil!!!
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: finsrin on January 11, 2016, 06:00:26 AM
Appreciate posting about Meteor action.  Thanks. :)
Reads like Meteor pilots did their fair share to make things unpleasant for the north.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: M.A.D on January 15, 2016, 09:02:12 PM
I am seriously tempted to have a go at the side-by-side seating one.


...adding to the temptation >:D

([url]https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/4a1c/gcg3fdyhsdyz3ta4g.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/view/gcg3fdyhsdyz3ta/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_1.jpg[/url])
([url]https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/cfae/l3ywcgyfedwgyaq4g.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/view/l3ywcgyfedwgyaq/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_2.jpg[/url])
([url]https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/3ce6/lc0dfico1ol917m4g.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/view/lc0dfico1ol917m/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_3.jpg[/url])
([url]https://www.mediafire.com/convkey/8d41/5c5fsu2jdfsz2wg4g.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://www.mediafire.com/view/5c5fsu2jdfsz2wg/sidebysideMeteor_RAN_-_4.jpg[/url])

;)


Very interesting and well done CiTrus90
I'm thinking the two-engine reliability of the Meteor would have been appreciated by naval aviators in the early days of jet/carrier ops. Although, I have no idea of the low-speed handling qualities of the Meteor  :-\

M.A.D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on January 15, 2016, 10:00:03 PM

I'm thinking the two-engine reliability of the Meteor would have been appreciated by naval aviators in the early days of jet/carrier ops. Although, I have no idea of the low-speed handling qualities of the Meteor  :-\

M.A.D

The low-speed handling of the Meteor with one engine out was so bad that it claimed the life of scores of RAF pilots. IIRC, this was one major reason why it was never adapted to the naval role.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 16, 2016, 04:31:55 AM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Weaver on January 16, 2016, 10:31:28 AM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.

At least one of the test pilots (can't remember which one - Bill Waterton?) was of the opinion that all Meteors should have been like that.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 17, 2016, 02:30:09 AM
Hmmm...I like that. Kind of give the Meteor a Me262 HGIII look/modification (see below).  One might even go the whole way and give it some swept wings as well:

(http://www.scalemates.com/products/img/3/6/3/113363-10941.jpg?nr=plt131&company=planet%20models&name=messerschmitt%20me%20262%20hg%20iii)
(http://crimso.msk.ru/Images6/AK/AK2002-07/32-3.gif)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on January 17, 2016, 03:25:57 AM
Yeah, but without the squished inlets that most likely wouldn't have worked.  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on January 17, 2016, 04:38:54 AM
Indeed
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: kitnut617 on January 17, 2016, 08:43:29 AM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.

There was something like that, the Gloster E.5/42 (pages 95/96 in the book British Experimental Combat Aircraft of WW.II-Tony Buttler)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on January 18, 2016, 08:44:01 AM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.

"Halestorm" retouched with raised engines. I'm thinking that this might work better with the Metrovick axial-flow engine (maybe Armstrong Siddeley continues postwar with the Metropolitan-Vickers F.3/I as a smaller brother to the Sapphire?).
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on March 20, 2016, 03:51:06 AM
CiTrus 90....yeah!  :)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Daryl J. on May 29, 2016, 10:41:35 PM
Scabbed-on cockpit armor, a belly gun, USAF SEA.   
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on October 05, 2020, 03:09:12 AM
(https://combatace.com/applications/core/interface/imageproxy/imageproxy.php?img=https://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh173/SPINNERS1961/WHAT%2520IF%25202010/WHAT%2520IF%2520ALBUM%2520B/SWISS%2520METEOR%2520F4.01_zpseitnylyl.jpg&key=c71dd1960e816b4a2d4fcd79cb804802e06167a82d3564dad9b1e217aae66ab0)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 15, 2022, 03:36:13 AM
(https://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/img00063.thumb.JPG.91e3110808fb46fe9b265157b4e32f7b.JPG)
(https://combatace.com/uploads/monthly_2017_08/img00064.thumb.JPG.d6bc1eed29577d00aed3dd3b9548fa79.JPG)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: M.A.D on April 15, 2022, 02:04:40 PM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.

"Halestorm" retouched with raised engines. I'm thinking that this might work better with the Metrovick axial-flow engine (maybe Armstrong Siddeley continues postwar with the Metropolitan-Vickers F.3/I as a smaller brother to the Sapphire?).

Nice!

MAD
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: The Rat on April 19, 2022, 04:51:41 AM
Navalised Meteor, push the engines inboard right up against
the fuselage CF-100 style to improve single engine handling.


(http://www.aircraftresourcecenter.com/Gal13/12701-12800/gal12746-Meteor-Bailey/07.jpg)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on April 20, 2022, 02:42:21 AM
 :smiley:
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on May 20, 2023, 04:58:23 AM
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/Engine_Manufacturers-Armstrong_Siddeley-1947-28192-1.jpg)
(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/e68/GTwiner/Gloster_Mamba_Meteor_A4.png)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on May 20, 2023, 06:53:25 AM

Gloster Raptor night fighter

Matchbox NF.14 with the incorrect very long nose, no guns, F-89-style rocket pods or 'very British' dummy missiles (square fins, conical noses) on wingtips. Gloss black with a red stripe, civilian reg. G-RAPT and company logos.

Take it one step further and modify the nose along the lines of the F-94C with both radar and unguided rockets/
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: M.A.D on May 21, 2023, 03:38:57 PM
Nice find GTX!
Also, great suggestion elmayerle

MAD
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Geoff on June 10, 2023, 08:44:43 PM
Something that's been on my to-do list since forever is a trio of 'advanced' Meteor prototypes as displayed at an air show where Gloster are desperately trying to flog them having lost the RAF night-fighter contract to the DH.110:

Gloster Reaper ground attack aircraft

Airfix Mk.8 with belly tank removed, tip tanks fitted, bomb pylons under fuselage, NF.11 outer wings (8 x guns!), non-British rocket pods on outer wing pylons, green/brown/gray 'European' cammo, but glossy with civilian registration G-REAP and company logos.

An old one of mine
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on June 11, 2023, 01:07:36 AM
The Mamba Meteor would need a tall undercarriage.  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: upnorth on June 12, 2023, 02:21:37 AM
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it.

I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.

Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: apophenia on June 12, 2023, 03:51:58 AM
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it...

That testing was done on behalf of the RAF. The RAF Meteors had been sent to Canada for cold weather testing. These were Meteor F.3 EE311 (Aug 1945-June 1946, crashed); Meteor F.3 EE361 (April 1946-March 1947); Meteor F.4 RA421 (Oct 1947; WEE Feb-Nov 1948); and Meteor F.4 VT196 (July 1953-June 1955).

There was never any plan to purchase the 'Meatbox' for the RCAF. The only Meteors with maple leaves were T.7s WA730 and WA740 which were RAF aircraft loaned to RCAF 421 Squadron when based in the UK during 1950 (421 was preparing to return to Canada at the end of 1951 where they would take on Canadair Sabres at RCAF Station St. Hubert).

... I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.

I guess the closest was Meteor F.4 VT196 which tested reheat systems for Avro Canada/Orenda from January 1954. For an actual Orenda-powered Meteor, the big challenge would be the length of that engine (121.5 inches versus 88.5 inches for the Derwent V). The Orenda was actually an inch smaller in diameter but sources also show it being almost twice the dry weight of the Derwent (although I suspect that the Derwent V weight is sans aux. equipment).
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 03, 2023, 02:21:47 AM
What about a Meteor fitted with pulse jets...even as a trial?
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: jcf on September 03, 2023, 03:11:42 AM
What about a Meteor fitted with pulse jets...even as a trial?

Sure, if you want a slower Meteor with a shorter range.  ;D
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: GTX_Admin on September 03, 2023, 03:32:48 AM
I was thinking more of a trials aircraft.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: elmayerle on October 10, 2023, 08:03:35 AM
I know the RCAF tested the meteor, but never took it.

I wonder how the Meteor would look with a series of Orenda engines on it.
Considering the size of the Orenda engine, you could go with an underslung engine installation like that of the MetroVic-powered prototype.
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: ysi_maniac on February 13, 2024, 07:37:10 PM
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: M.A.D on February 13, 2024, 07:45:29 PM
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Nice! Very nice!!

From what I heard and read about the weak design/construction of the real world Meteor rear fuselage-tail design, I think you could have averted a lot of Meteor losses 🤔

MAD
Title: Re: Gloster Meteor Ideas and Inspiration
Post by: Kerick on February 14, 2024, 10:58:01 AM
RAAF Meteor with a different tail (I love Canberra tail :-*)

(https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds) (https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/j340/ysi_maniac/Meteor_canberra_hZAkY7HF2BNDGvaeJ5YkhJ.jpg?width=1920&height=1080&fit=bounds)

Nice! Very nice!!

From what I heard and read about the weak design/construction of the real world Meteor tail design, I think you could have averted a lot of Neteor losses 🤔

MAD

It certainly looks better, at least to me.