Beyond The Sprues
Current and Finished Projects => Physical Models => Sea => Topic started by: kpnuts on December 15, 2014, 05:06:28 AM
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Hi all well now I've finished Warspite I am putting some serious thought into the corvette. I know the purists will hate this but there are hundreds of corvette model builds out there, and, if you've got to know me at all you will know I don't do usual, so, I was thinking what I could do different, I could turn it into a luxury cruiser, but I want to keep the guns and stuff, so I thought maybe turn it into some sort of futuristic fighting ship, but no I actually like the look of it as it is, and that would change it a lot, so what I thought was. War gaming is quite popular what if you could play captain of your very own corvette. Obviously she would have to have up to date radar and stuff, for legal reasons I assume. So guys what would I have to alter legally (visibly I mean)if she was to exist now and be leased out to War game parties.
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Well if may not have to be of this world.
Put it in a, for want of a better phrase "Waterworld" environment.
Do what you like where you like in a Post Apocalyptic setting. You could even have some wind or solar power fittings.
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Don't know answer to your question.
Do find this extra interesting as I have two in stash got on the cheap at swap meets.
My inclination is to modernize to at least 1960s up to now configuration for patrolling the archipelago.
Please post pics when building starts.
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Let me see if I understand your intent here...
You're thinking of some form of 1:1 war game for the ultra rich?
If so, I would add cameras to all gun positions, a few critically-placed smoke pots to represent hits/damage. Provide a modern navigation radar, comm system, cap the stack to simulate its been re-fitted as a diesel, replace the whalers with RHIBS or modern lifeboats and add some containerized lifeboats (perhaps fitted to the K-guns?).
hmmm...
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That's exactly what I'm thinking and all your suggestions are great could you just expand a bit on them ( I know practically nothing about war ships or gaming) probably sounds like a stupid idea to pick something you know nothing about, I like a challenge and am up for a bit, or a lot of scratch building.
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OK, assuming that you want your ships to engage in ship-v-ship or ship-v-aircraft combat.
You need to be able to simulate the gun aiming at something, a form of laser tag so to speak. That means that every gun you want to use in the battle has a camera mounted above the barrel so that the aimpoint can be viewed and hits calculated.
A couple of positions around the ship would need smoke grenades... if the ship gets "hit" the grenade starts smoking to add realism.
On the mast add a modern navigation radar (you can get pics from google) and a couple of whip antennas to simulate having a modern communication rig.
Replace the two square lifeboats on each side with a Rigid Hull Inflatable Boat on davits (RHIB). Again, google will get you good reference pictures.
On the hull sides, maybe the back as well, I would replace some of the depth charges with encapsulated liferafts in barrels. See the pic here for what one looks like: http://www.life-raft.com/9586/47399/Life-Rafts----Commercial/Crewsaver-US-Coast-Guard-Approved-SOLAS-Liferaft.html (http://www.life-raft.com/9586/47399/Life-Rafts----Commercial/Crewsaver-US-Coast-Guard-Approved-SOLAS-Liferaft.html)
If you google diesel tug you can see what the top of the smokestack looks like. I'm going to assume that the ships would have been converted at some point from steam to diesel for convenience sake. The big empty smokestack isn't needed, so it would probably be just empty space with the diesel exhausts inside.
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Thanks really helpful.
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Hi all ive made a start.
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The Flowers used a lengthened version of the design of the whale-catcher Southern Pride,
so I suppose you could turn a Flower back into a whale-catcher, or an anti-'whale-catcher'.
;) :icon_fsm:
Some diagrams that may be of interest (note that the GA is of an early short forecastle Flower, the Matchbox/Revell kit is of the later version with extended forecastle):
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/FLOWER_GA_01.png)
(http://i729.photobucket.com/albums/ww291/joncarrfarrelly/FLOWER_SECTIONS_01.png)
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Thanks for the info, it may well prove useful
Installed the prop shaft
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Hi all got the radio gear in the Corvette today.
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Nice pics. Interesting to see RC parts come together.
Way back when,,, put electric motor in Revell Arizona.
Boxed around prop shaft exit and packed it with Vasoline gel. Sealed OK.
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Mechanical speed control... that's old school! :)
Watching this closely, my own Flower will be going on the building slips at some point.
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Hi all done a bit to the corvette. the strengthening tie bars are a joke they bend all over the place had to add some plasticard to them to stiffen them also number 9 rib is about 1.5 mill too long when in place and you add the top deck it creates a gap all down the side so had to had a bit off that, fits ok now.
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well did some filling and glued some deck parts on corvette and added the wooden decking to the rear.
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This is really great progress, and Its neat to see a ship like this (motorized and all) come together
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Mororized or not; like how its going together.
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she goes together quite well, i used 2 of them to build a pair of 1/144 aircraft carriers.
the 4-part hull also makes it easy to build extensions 8)
im also planning on building a Belgian Navy flower-class corvette,
when revell releases theyre 1/144 version later this year.
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Hi all since my bosses husband is buying the Bentley and my boss has commissioned me to build 2 1/48 Tamiya spits and a 1/48 Tamiya Lancaster (her father was an electrical engineer on the lancaster and actually worked on the Concord too)the corvette is going to have to go on the back burner for a while but here is where I am now on her.
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Those eight holes/hatches are looking like vertical launch missile tubes.
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I have one of these in the stash and plan eventually to make the 5th Krigsmarine Flower out of it. The Germans captured 4 in France and converted them to flak ships. But they were all short fo'castle versions so I'm goint to do a what-if they captured a newer one and converted it too...sometime. its been on the drawing board in my head for about 3 years so far :)
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Man, I have been wanted to add one of these to my stash fir a while now, but never got lucky on any god deals. I'd had ideas to turn it into a fishing boat. You know, has bunch of those lobster cages in the back and long air looking cranes on both sides connected with lobster cages or nets.
Another idea I had was turn it into old civilian ship. Similar to what they had in the King Kong movie.
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I have one of these in the stash and plan eventually to make the 5th Krigsmarine Flower out of it. The Germans captured 4 in France and converted them to flak ships. But they were all short fo'castle versions so I'm goint to do a what-if they captured a newer one and converted it too...sometime. its been on the drawing board in my head for about 3 years so far :)
I figure ~99ft 8in as 1/35. Can do a lot with that.
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Man, I have been wanted to add one of these to my stash fir a while now, but never got lucky on any god deals. I'd had ideas to turn it into a fishing boat. You know, has bunch of those lobster cages in the back and long air looking cranes on both sides connected with lobster cages or nets.
Another idea I had was turn it into old civilian ship. Similar to what they had in the King Kong movie.
Either works. Fishing boat, tuna clipper. Tramp steamer is most interesting to me. A few anti-pirate guns?
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I have one of these in the stash and plan eventually to make the 5th Krigsmarine Flower out of it. The Germans captured 4 in France and converted them to flak ships. But they were all short fo'castle versions so I'm goint to do a what-if they captured a newer one and converted it too...sometime. its been on the drawing board in my head for about 3 years so far :)
I figure ~99ft 8in as 1/35. Can do a lot with that.
LOL, I'd need a bigger house, not just a bigger boat!
And just to clarify 1/35 is my preferred scale for my comfort-zone genre, modern wheeled armour, but I do dabble out side the scale from time to time. One long-term project I have on the go is a 1/350 (note extra zero) Marine landing diorama. Slowly collecting up LCACs, LCUs, LAV, Abrams, Humvees, AAAV7s, Harriers, Cobras, MV-22s & H-60s etc etc etc
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The first thing I thought of to "modernize" your Flower class
was to replace the forward deck gun with an Oto-Melara automated
76mm turret. It is pretty light in weight, and are seen on some very
small combat vessels.
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The first thing I thought of to "modernize" your Flower class
was to replace the forward deck gun with an Oto-Melara automated
76mm turret. It is pretty light in weight, and are seen on some very
small combat vessels.
Yep !
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Hi all I've had an idea to get this back on the bench, it's a bit out there but those who know me know I can be a bit weird. Anyway I was thinking of doing it as a 1960s bat boat, now first problem it's a 30 crew ship, I can reduce some of that since I have the Airfix jet engine, so I can do away with the crew for stoking the furnace, I figure that's probably 4 less laser cannon instead of the standard armament (I could add several and have them controlled by computor) so I figure 2 or 3 fewer crew there, still a long way from 2 crew or if I include the Butler 3, any suggestions how I can realistically reduce it down to 3, or excuses for why batman would risk his identity and have more crew
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OK I'm doing it here is the jet engine, I'm ditching the rc, there will be a fair amount of hacking involved but this will look nothing like a flower class corvette when done, I envisage lots of bat wings and stuff.
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http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/PROFILE/German_Flower.htm (http://www.cbrnp.com/RNP/Flower/PROFILE/German_Flower.htm)
Some reference material for anyone thinking of doing a German version.
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Loving the big engine on the back
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Hi all well here is a quick mockup of where this is going. The jet engine is very disappointing detail wise I will be adding lots more detail and since this will be sprayed gloss black I will be cutting inspection doors in the outer casing to show the detail I will be adding
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Hi all here's the first bit of alterations
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Hi all done a bit more.
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As you can see there's no real detail to the jet engine, I know it's meant to be an educational toys to teach kids how a jet engine works and to be see through but I fail to see how this teaches anything, no injectors no pipe work for fuel just some blades which spin and some lights, I think Airfix missed a trick here. And for very little work on their part.
I know nothing about jet engines but I know they need injectors to get the fuel where needed and fuel obviously but here is no indication of either here.
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And combustion chambers! ;)
Build is looking great, so far, can'r wait to see more! 8)
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One could possibly add those extra details in:
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Hi all some more progress on this.
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I've concocted a couple of laser cannons for it, I think they look quite convincing, what do you think.
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I intend to add as much detail to the jet engine i can.
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Lasers make sense . It's likely to run over its own bullets with that jet
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a bold idea !
I wouldn't have dared ;-)
thank you for showing pictures from that Airfix engine : it gives me other ideas ;D
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WOW - :o - is example of "thinking outside the box" and a kitbasher's box is darn big.
Retaining propeller for puttering around dockside ?
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it makes me think of
(http://modelsua.com/images/D/mm35010.jpg)
but then much much bigger
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I keep getting an Ian McCue (https://www.google.com.au/search?q=ian+mccue+airships&biw=1280&bih=647&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiq_Jj6tKDOAhXIpZQKHVUZBG4QsAQIMw#imgrc=b7-87ehqgaO7mM%3A) vibe from it.
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Hi all here is tonight's bit
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I must say I'm quite pleased with my lasers.
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It's looking kind of steam-/diesel-punk the further along you get. :)
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Hi all here is the next installment
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I must say I'm enjoying this very much, freedom from anyone saying "that's wrong" is so liberating and I'm loving the fact I can use my imagination to find stuff for making 60s style futuristic stuff ( I thought at the start of this build that the corvette lent itself to that era, modern stuff would be either squarer or more streamlined)
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Concept/direction of build is right-on :)
"60s style futuristic" is good description. Science fiction or James Bond type movie comes to mind.
You statement " I'm enjoying this very much, freedom from anyone saying "that's wrong" is so liberating and I'm loving the fact I can use my imagination" Since is the only one then you are building it correct.
Look forward to seeing more pictures.
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Hi all, I've started detailing the jet engine.
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Hi all, did some more detailing on the jet engine (yes I know all you jet engine enthusiasts out there it looks like no jet engine you ever saw) it's not real and doesn't exist in real life, I love this imaginary stuff, I can do anything.
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... it's not real and doesn't exist in real life, I love this imaginary stuff, I can do anything.
Just as Glod intended! ;)
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Hi all well I've finished detailing the jet engine, I was going to make an inspection panel in the casing so you could see the detailing but since it is curved in all directions I couldn't work out how to hinge it so you won't actually see any of it but, hey I know it's there.
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Hi all well thanks to a suggestion I'm going to do lift out panels instead of hinged so here's what I have so far.
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Woh! :icon_surprised:
I hope the crew all have seatbelts & safety harnesses! ;)
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Hi all here's another update on this beast.
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IMG]http://i67.tinypic.com/2me7mux.jpg[/IMG]
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Looking good!! That large engine cries out to have thrust vectoring vanes turning the exhaust to help in high-speed maneuvering.
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At first glance I thought you were building your own RPG! :o
I have to keep better track of this interesting build!
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Oh Yaa,,, hydrofoils are right move !
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Saw the hydrofoils & my brain went "Ba-na Na-na Na-na Na-na Ba-na Na-na Na-na Na-na Bat Boat!" ;D
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I been wondering --- will it belong to the bad guys or good guys ?
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Hi all I've had a go at making batman and added a bit of colour to the ship.
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:D
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Not too late to make a working jet engine for this project?
Like this guy on YouTube built from metal cans and other things: https://youtu.be/fkG3-jgi48I
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Hi all can anyone guess what this will be used for (think way out of the box)
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That jet engine looks good.
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Strictly wild ass, cut the bulb in half and use it as a pair of turrets or mounts?
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Hi all here is the next update.
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Most, that is Most interesting.
Being incandescent that means good power is needed and heat results. I'm guessing you don't light it up.
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I think it's going to be a Bat-copter!? ???
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Bat copter is correct.
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Hi all here's another update.
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Very cool! 8)
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Super clever/creative chopper :)
Actually that goes for entire build !
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Hi all another little update, I must say I'm excited to see where this goes, I have so many ideas rolling round in my head.
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Hi all I just feel like I should apologise to all the people following my other ship builds, I've not forgotten them, I'm just having so much fun with this I can't concentrate on them, is that selfish? Sorry, I will get back to them again, and to those who don't like what I'm doing to this, I blow raspberrys at you.
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Apart from the fact that I think it needs different shades & tones of black to bring out all the different structures & lines, I think it's great! 8)
I especially like that you don't know where you're going with it & just building for fun. :)
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Hi all another update, won't be many more as on hols on Friday.
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Hi all well I'm back on this (I know, you're all shaking your heads and mumbling "here goes that nutter again") hey I'm just living upto my name.
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Bat Yacht: X
Bat Signal: X
Bat Helicopter: X
Bat Sub: X
:)
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Hi all here is the next update.
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Hi all the next update
Here is the standard weapon and the bat boat laser to replace it
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Added some of the PE ( not sure whether to leave it as stainless or paint it red, just to add some interest instead of all black)
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And more of the hated PE
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Hi all here's the next instalment
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Hi all nearing completion, here is the next update.
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Hi all here is the next update, almost done now I thought I would put the bat tank with it just to make it less boring.
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You've truly found a home here sir!
Brian da Basher
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Totally batty... but in a good way! ;)
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There's more detail on there than one can fully appreciate because of the black-on-black scheme but it's a great conversion! :) :)
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Over the top excessiveness is perfect. Bat bow planes are right touch for control when jet is running :)
I know batman is pleased with your build !
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Hi all as I said before attempting to get some models finished so I can devote all my attention to the ducati. This is nearly finished now (just the rigging to go) I've decided not to put the other lifeboats on (may even remove the ones on there and add something else) I've also decided not to paint the railings to add a bit more interest, if I change my mind they will be red, anyway here are pics of where I am now.
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My next one to finish will be the Thermopylae.
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Hi all well it's finally done being completely honest I think it's ended up looking very boring, I think I should have picked a different super hero, like the incredibles or maybe the fantastic 4 I would have weathered it with differing shades of black for the different panels as someone did suggest but I don't think I've ever seen a bat vehicle that wasn't perfectly matt black or perfectly gloss black. Anyway here it is, at sometime in the future maybe I will revamp in another colour scheme.
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:o I would say "frightening" ...
Beautiful work of fantasy...
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Ba'na-na'na-na'na-na'na. Ba'na-na'na-na'na-na'na. Batship! ;D