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Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« on: May 05, 2020, 11:39:11 PM »
Been building this over the last few weeks on the What-If forum and I've almost finished it. Just needs a few little bits put on and the decals.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2020, 01:52:02 AM »
Wow! Wonderful job on the P.10 Robert!  Makes a nice companion to the Eagle-powered Wyvern TF.Mk.I   :smiley:
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2020, 03:00:23 AM »
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2020, 03:54:02 AM »
Made a nice job of that dude  ;) :smiley: :smiley:

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2020, 05:24:13 AM »
Thanks guys, the idea is this was the version that was chosen to be the Wyvern. The starting point was a CMR TF.1

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2020, 05:25:49 AM »
This shows what modifications I did to the fuselage, otherwise it was built as a TF.1 would be.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #6 on: May 06, 2020, 05:30:41 AM »
This drawing appeared in the Wyvern thread over on SPF yesterday/today. I had used the 3-View in the BSP book, Fighters & Bombers 1939-1950 as a reference and use Mk.1 eyeball to make the adjustments, but after seeing this drawing I measured the length of the model and found I had nailed it just about right for length (I am 1/128th of an inch out)

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #7 on: May 06, 2020, 06:17:15 AM »
Very cool!  8)
Extra " :smiley: " for the in-flight pose.
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #8 on: May 06, 2020, 07:12:35 AM »
BZ Robert. Nice looking build.  Suez campaign stripes are a favorite of mine.
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2020, 07:35:34 AM »
That came out great - if anything, it looks more aggressive than the original. Is that a resin kit? Even more impressive surgery.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2020, 07:58:04 AM »
Thanks guys ---

Frank, Yep! it's the resin CMR kit.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2020, 09:13:03 AM »
Very nicely done and beautifully finished.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2020, 12:15:34 PM »
This is brilliantly done, love the Suez stripes, any Wyvern is a good Wyvern  8) 8) 8) 8) 8) 8)
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #13 on: May 06, 2020, 03:30:14 PM »
Masterful transition to mid-engine forward cockpit.   Blue with stripes and gear up display are perfect.  :smiley:  8)

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #14 on: May 06, 2020, 04:26:37 PM »


Beautiful. Wyvern a top-fave of mine and this concept does not damage the looks in any way.

I made the Trumpy 1/48 kit many moons ago and with supplied gears etc the contra-prop works. The look on my son's face when I showed it to him is etched in my memory..."Does not compute!!"
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #15 on: May 06, 2020, 08:59:53 PM »
Thanks very much everyone.

Ever since I saw the pictures and 3-Views in Tony Butler's BSP, Fighters and Bombers 1935-1950 I've wanted to build a model of it. CMR certainly helped out on that score when they released the TF.1 kit, I bought three of them on the spot. One of the leftover kits will be made OOB, and one will be made into the RR Clyde powered version, they all had the same tail group.

This has just been the right time to build the first one. I followed this 3-View of it.
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #16 on: May 06, 2020, 09:08:09 PM »

I made the Trumpy 1/48 kit many moons ago and with supplied gears etc the contra-prop works.


I've got the Trumpeter 1/48 kit too, not my usual scale so you can blame Jeff for that (Mr Fontaine) as I had borrowed the nose cowling from his kit because I wanted some handed propellers, I ended up buying the kit after I gave back Jeff's bit & pieces.  And just a couple of days ago I got the 1/72 kit too (waiting for it to arrive now), mainly for the props but it will depend if the kit is as good as the 1/48 kit.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #17 on: May 08, 2020, 12:15:00 AM »
I was able to use 'all' of the cockpit tub that comes with the kit, all I had to do was angle up the deck behind seat to match the top slope of the forward fuselage, and apart from making the new cockpit opening, I had to do quite a bit of thinning of the very thick resin in said forward fuselage.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #18 on: May 08, 2020, 12:17:54 AM »
I had removed the original cockpit opening and the hump it's in, I then found that about half a Supermarine Attacker rear fuselage practically fit right in the space without much sanding to blend it in.

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2020, 07:53:05 AM »
Today I thought I would have a go at making a very large FFAR type RP in 1/72 to mount on the Wyvern. The reference books say it's code name was Red Angel and was tested on a Wyvern. It was a 11.25" diameter, 1000lb monster. I scanned and scaled a drawing of it which is in the BSP, Hypersonics, Ramjets & Missiles book.

Here's how it turned out, all I have to do now is make another one.
« Last Edit: May 10, 2020, 07:56:09 AM by kitnut617 »

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2020, 05:36:19 PM »
You've certainly got a big rocket for your Wyvern :smiley:
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2020, 08:07:33 AM »
I had removed the original cockpit opening and the hump it's in, I then found that about half a Supermarine Attacker rear fuselage practically fit right in the space without much sanding to blend it in.

You've gotta love those little patches of serendipity  :smiley:
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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2020, 09:39:44 PM »
Thanks FAAMAN

Yup! you're right Stephen, it's like when I was building my Alternative Harrier Replacement model, I found that a Harrier cockpit and surrounding fuselage, fits perfectly into a F-18 gun bay (if it's cut right  ;) ) This needed practically no sanding at all, or filler.
« Last Edit: May 11, 2020, 09:41:39 PM by kitnut617 »

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2020, 09:43:33 PM »
I painted the Red Angel

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Re: Westland Wyvern - The Mid-Engined P10 Concept
« Reply #24 on: May 20, 2020, 12:05:07 AM »
This is progressing --- s-l-o-w-l-y -------