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Offline ed s

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MiG 14 Fathead
« on: October 07, 2018, 04:39:59 AM »
Before the MiG 15 came to fame battling Messerschmitts over the Danube River, the MiG 14 was fighting pirates in the Great Mongolian Sea.
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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2018, 04:46:27 AM »
Photo of what I'm starting with. Basic model is an old Airfix bagged MiG 15.

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2018, 05:47:54 AM »
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2018, 05:50:34 AM »
Another Ed masterpiece! The Airfix Mig-15 is a good start. It bears about as much resemblance to a real Mig-15 as the Aurora "Mig 19" does to the Mig-19.
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Offline finsrin

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2018, 03:50:08 PM »
Quote from: apophenia on October 07, 2018, 05:47:54 AM
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?

Thatz a concept.  Sure Russians would have access to some P-51s by 1946 to copy its great wings.  Mig-14 as a precursor to Mig-15.
Built bright green plastic Aurora "Mig-19" back in the day. 
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #5 on: October 26, 2018, 03:33:13 AM »
Quote from: finsrin on October 25, 2018, 03:50:08 PM
Quote from: apophenia on October 07, 2018, 05:47:54 AM
Hmmm, interesting. MiG-15 with P-51 wings and tail?

Thatz a concept.  Sure Russians would have access to some P-51s by 1946 to copy its great wings.  Mig-14 as a precursor to Mig-15.
Built bright green plastic Aurora "Mig-19" back in the day.

Wish I could upvote this comment.

A straight, laminar flow wing & tail feathers on a MiG is one heckuva concept!

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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #6 on: October 26, 2018, 11:37:30 AM »
Yes, I'm still around and even found some modeling time the last few days. For those who recognized the Mustang wings, you are correct. However, they are not the same scale as the Mig. They are from a snap together toy that is about 20% larger than 1/72. But they fit the Mig fuselage perfectly.


Here is the Mig as of today. Major assembly finished and first layer of putty in place and ready to start sanding.







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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2018, 03:06:56 AM »
Looking good
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2018, 05:09:28 AM »
I like the look of that layout and bonus points for going with a T tail!

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2018, 01:25:13 AM »
Looks like the start of a fearsome pirate hunter for the defense of the Motherland.
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #10 on: October 30, 2018, 10:52:25 AM »
Great idea!  :smiley:
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Offline tankmodeler

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2018, 12:31:02 AM »
Looks not unlike a T-tail FJ1 Fury, but actually a bit prettier.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:FJ-1_(modified).jpg#/media/File:FJ-1_(modified).jpg

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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2018, 09:46:00 AM »
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.



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Offline finsrin

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #13 on: November 01, 2018, 10:15:35 AM »
Bet Russians copied much of FJ-1 then added Miggy touches with eye toward Mig-15.
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #14 on: November 01, 2018, 10:56:23 PM »
Quote from: ed s on November 01, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.

Purely from the real aerodynamics standpoint, the intersection of the wing and fuselage would not be that sharp or concave. It causes significant interference drag, especially at speed where compressibility and transonic flow are expected. That interface really needs a fillet to smooth out the airflow in that corner.

However, as Faithful Patsy once said, "It's only a model."  ;D

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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2018, 11:40:17 PM »
Quote from: tankmodeler on November 01, 2018, 10:56:23 PM
Quote from: ed s on November 01, 2018, 09:46:00 AM
Just about done with PSR stage. Here it is with a coat of primer.

Purely from the real aerodynamics standpoint, the intersection of the wing and fuselage would not be that sharp or concave. It causes significant interference drag, especially at speed where compressibility and transonic flow are expected. That interface really needs a fillet to smooth out the airflow in that corner.

However, as Faithful Patsy once said, "It's only a model."  ;D




Sometimes, I'm too lazy or in a hurry to worry about all the minor aerodynamic details.  :smiley:
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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #16 on: November 16, 2018, 08:33:58 AM »
Developed by MiG to use the newly available RR Nene engine, the Mig 14 was a significant improvement over the early Mig 9 and was put into production. Only about 500 units were produced before the new swept wing Mig 15 was ready for production. It was roughly in the same class, performance, and mission as the early USAF F-84 and the French Dassault Ouragon.









The aircraft shown was flown by the Mongolian AF and used against pirates on the Great Mongolian Sea during the late 1940's.
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #17 on: November 16, 2018, 08:57:09 AM »
Lovely Ed   :-* :-* :-*

I like the way you used the same type of weapon load as I did on my Bronco
« Last Edit: November 16, 2018, 08:58:47 AM by kitnut617 »
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #18 on: November 16, 2018, 11:31:45 AM »
Looks fantastic, Ed! The largest body of water in Mongolia is Uvs Lake at around 50 x 50 miles, so the Fathead would have had an easy time hunting pirates.
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Offline ed s

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2018, 11:48:22 AM »
Quote from: Frank3k on November 16, 2018, 11:31:45 AM
Looks fantastic, Ed! The largest body of water in Mongolia is Uvs Lake at around 50 x 50 miles, so the Fathead would have had an easy time hunting pirates.

I guess WHIFF world has some different geography.
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Offline finsrin

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2018, 02:23:12 PM »
Fine example of everything Mig-14 was or could or should have been.  :smiley:
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #21 on: November 16, 2018, 05:36:54 PM »
Wow did that ever finish up a treat!

Great stuff, Ed!

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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #22 on: November 16, 2018, 06:59:32 PM »
Beautiful paintjob!

And I always maintain that there is no aircraft which looks worse with a T-Tail.
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #23 on: November 17, 2018, 01:38:47 AM »
Love that paint scheme. :smiley:
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Re: MiG 14 Fathead
« Reply #24 on: November 17, 2018, 08:10:33 PM »
Came together really nicely
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