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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2019, 05:43:45 AM »
Czech Omega Resin makes a whole bunch of different Hurricane variants. I've got eight different ones so far -- floatplane, trainers, some with different engines ----

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #76 on: July 06, 2019, 01:51:45 AM »
Czech Omega Resin makes a whole bunch of different Hurricane variants. I've got eight different ones so far -- floatplane, trainers, some with different engines ----

Indeed - see here:  https://omega-models.com/index.php?route=product/search&search=hurricane
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #77 on: July 06, 2019, 01:56:27 AM »
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #78 on: July 06, 2019, 04:34:35 AM »
Some pics of RP armed Hurricanes:



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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #79 on: July 06, 2019, 04:43:18 AM »
On a different tangent, I was looking at some Sea Hurricane pics:






And started to wonder:  what if the RN FAA tried fitting a Mark XII torpedo Same as used by Fairey Swordfish - "18 inch" - 450 mm diameter, 1,548 lb (702 kg) weight) to some Sea Hurricanes. Yes, it would have been arguably sluggish and overloaded but even so, its performance would still have been arguably better than the Swordfish.
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #80 on: July 06, 2019, 07:11:37 AM »
Wouldn't the radiator have to be relocated ?

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #81 on: July 06, 2019, 09:15:16 AM »
According to  Eric Browne, the Swordfish was actually quite an aerobatic machine when unloaded.  He tested one against the latest British fighters in early 1944 when the RN was preparing a task force to go into the Pacific war and the FAA was worried about their elderly machines versus the Japanese fighters. 

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #82 on: July 06, 2019, 09:18:38 AM »
Wouldn't the radiator have to be relocated ?
My thoughts, too.  Probably be something like the cooling system redesign in making the Fiat G.55S.

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #83 on: July 06, 2019, 12:15:54 PM »
"Speed" performance sure, better performance as a torpedo aircraft, not likely.
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #84 on: July 07, 2019, 02:07:15 AM »
Ok, what about a different track:  a lengthen derivative with a second seat for a observer - something akin to a Fairly Fulmar or Firefly in appearance.




Maybe it would look a bit like a Hwaker Henley (below) or perhaps it could be more elegant:

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #85 on: July 07, 2019, 03:51:12 AM »
To illustrate my idea:

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #86 on: July 07, 2019, 04:11:29 AM »
Then you'd basically have a Henley.  ;D :icon_fsm:

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #87 on: July 07, 2019, 04:19:21 AM »
Which is one of the things I already said.  I was looking at something more akin to a Fulmar/Firefly though.
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #88 on: July 07, 2019, 06:54:34 AM »
Maybe the starting point could the turretless Hotspur (as in the Dujin kit)? Just needs the upper rear decking extended to make a Fulmar analogue.
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #89 on: July 26, 2019, 02:21:46 AM »
Could be an interesting build:

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #90 on: December 30, 2019, 11:35:09 PM »
During last months of RW Spanish Civil War, some high rank socialist authoritis tried to approach UK to buy weapons. UK rejected the offer.

Here you can see Hurricane with bubble top and Griffon engine


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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #91 on: April 30, 2020, 03:11:42 AM »
It wasn't always fuel in those pods:

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #92 on: April 30, 2020, 07:45:33 PM »
Was just reading on the battle of Ceylon and was surprised how very close it came to being an earlier Midway, with elements of Cape Mattapan, though a more likely outcome would have been the annihilation of the British Eastern Fleet.  The Japanese assumed they would catch the British completely by surprise, Fleet in harbor and defenders at Sunday morning church services, while the British had pre-deployed from Ceylon and were aiming for a night engagement, assuming that:
a) they would only be facing a smaller task group not size fleet Japan actually deployed,
b) the Japanese were as inexperienced at night fighting as the Italians and USN were at the time and
c) the Japanese would attack on April 1 with the full moon.

There was a brief window confusion on the Japanese carriers as they quickly rearmed for a follow up attack on Ceylon, but then had to change back to anti shipping strike as the two British cruisers, they believed were the vanguard of the Eastern Fleet, were detected.  This was similar to the situation that caused such calamity at Midway, luckily they didn't learn from the experience.  Then that night the Japanese fleet sailed south to refuel as the British looked north and east, a night strike lead by ASV equipped Albacores could have caused significant damage had they position of the Japanese been identified.

What was interesting was the Hurricanes did not do as badly as would be expected considering they had to climb to engage the Japanese and were so badly outnumbered. I suppose the fact these were veteran squadrons from the Mediterranean Theatre made some difference, but they were also let down by poor positioning of the available radars, failure of coms, and failure of allied units to report (or even correctly identify in some cases) sighting of the attacking fleet and aircraft.  Being at altitude would have helped but considering the disparity in numbers, they couldn't have made a huge difference.


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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #93 on: May 01, 2020, 09:56:49 PM »
Interestingly, the RAF had recently deployed in late 1941 their first, medium twin engine torpedo bombers - Wellingtons - to Malta.  Now, if Bletchley Park had decoded the Japanese fleet codes earlier, those aircraft could have been flown on Ceylon for use against the Japanese Fleet.  It would have made life difficult for the Japanese, facing long range torpedo bombers.   The RAF could have struck them far out to sea, before their own strike aircraft were in range.

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #94 on: October 04, 2020, 02:56:58 AM »
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #95 on: October 05, 2020, 04:06:02 AM »
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #96 on: December 07, 2020, 10:06:44 AM »
Inspiration in as far as this is a really good BBC writeup.

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201127-the-forgotten-fighter-plane-which-won-the-battle-of-britain

Sad that the BBC (of all folk) has to caption which is a Spitfire and which a Hurricane.

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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #97 on: December 18, 2021, 11:23:19 PM »
Vintage Wings of Canada just completed the restoration of a CCF Hurricane MK.XII to represent a Hurricane I flown by Flying Officer William Lidstone “Willie” McKnight, DFC and Bar.

The Vintage Wings Hurricane XII is painted in the markings of P2961, a Hurricane I flown by Flying Officer William Lidstone “Willie” McKnight, DFC and Bar, a Canadian in the Royal Air Force, Canada's most outstanding fighter pilot of the first 18 months of the Second World War. McKnight, from Alberta, joined the RAF before the outset of the Second World War and fought in the Battle of France, Dunkirk, and the Battle of Britain. He was lost in an enemy engagement in January 1941 over the English Channel. He has no known grave. McKnight Boulevard in Calgary, Alberta is named in his honour.


McKnight is on the wing, far right.





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https://www.vintagewings.ca/hurricane-mk-xii
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #98 on: December 19, 2021, 12:30:21 AM »
You beat me to it. :smiley:
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Re: Hawker Hurricane Ideas and Inspiration
« Reply #99 on: April 01, 2023, 02:48:37 AM »

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