Beyond The Sprues
Modelling => Ideas & Inspiration => Land => Topic started by: ysi_maniac on June 16, 2014, 01:51:33 AM
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http://jedsite.info/tanks-hotel/hotel/hstvl_series/hstvl-series.html (http://jedsite.info/tanks-hotel/hotel/hstvl_series/hstvl-series.html)
https://www.google.es/search?q=hstv+l+tank&es_sm=95&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=INSdU7rWK6nM0AXRpIGYBw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=908 (https://www.google.es/search?q=hstv+l+tank&es_sm=95&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=INSdU7rWK6nM0AXRpIGYBw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1440&bih=908)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_light_tank (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stingray_light_tank)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M8_Buford (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M8_Buford)
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Found this in one of those links for something different;
(http://i55.tinypic.com/4gg3mh.jpg)
Here: http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/los-tanques-que-no-fueron.24765/page-3 (http://www.zona-militar.com/foros/threads/los-tanques-que-no-fueron.24765/page-3)
I don't speak, read, write or understand, in any way or form, Spanish - so I have no idea what they're talking about.
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One of the two alternative designs produced for the German MBT 3 project. Here is the other one:
(http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_kpz_leopard_3_vt_2_augustdorf-1315.jpg)
(http://www.panzerbaer.de/types/pix/bw_kpz_leopard_3_vt_2_augustdorf-1313.jpg)
This was an earlier development vehicle
(http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-06/1340422036_Leopard-3-4.jpg)
(http://topwar.ru/uploads/posts/2012-06/1340422074_Leopard-3-8.jpg)
Similar to the Swedish S Tank. Initially tried with 105mm and then 120mm guns, and relied on turning the tank for aiming, although, unlike the S Tank, they were elevatable, independent from the tank chassis.
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Why two guns though?
I have seen those photos before but never understood the idea of two guns verses one larger calibre or perhaps a 120mm with an auto loader and a higher rate of fire.
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They had autoloaders. As to why dual guns, doubles the rate of fire of course.
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Looks like someone took wargame miniatures up to full size!
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Still looks like a poor trade off in terms of weight and complexity verses a single gun design.
The design just doesn't make sense and I am curious as to the thinking and requirements behind it.
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Hull down and hiding to stop the invading Sov-Pac hordes. :-\
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Still looks like a poor trade off in terms of weight and complexity verses a single gun design.
The design just doesn't make sense and I am curious as to the thinking and requirements behind it.
It was a research project that went essentially no where. Tactical thinking changed and what was to become MBT 3 (aka Leopard 3) was an improved Leopard 2 with a new, higher power, smaller engine (which allowed a shorter hull and increased armour) and a 140mm gun with autoloader but that is getting ahead of the story. It wasn't built either, with the end of the Cold War. These casemented tanks were, as JCF suggested, designed to stop the hordes of Warsaw Pact tanks on the North German Plain. They were essentially the result of defensive thinking and of course, such thinking was tossed out the window when Leopard 2 came along and showed how useful a fully rotating turret was with full stabilisation. These vehicles really aren't light tanks, either, they're MBTs. The MBT 3 project was just one effort at follow on to Leopard 2 while Leopard 2 was being developed. At the time, in the mid-late-70s there was considerable interest in the S Tank concept, with the British building the Contentious tech demonstrator (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FV4401_Contentious) on a Comet chassis and the Jagdchieftain vehicle (http://arcaneafvs.com/chieftain_concept.html).
Contentious
(http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-charlie/charlie/comet_series/contentious/contentious_001.jpg)
Jadgchieftain
(http://www.jedsite.info/tanks-charlie/charlie/chieftain_series/jagdchieftain/jagdchieftain_000.jpg)