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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #25 on: August 18, 2013, 05:47:10 AM »
B-49 with a V bomber nose in RAF markings.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #26 on: August 18, 2013, 05:51:57 AM »
Correct scale but in RAF markings.  Basically a subtle Whiff.
No challenge with that unless you come up with a nice camouflage scheme that would give it a very RAF look.  Perhaps a modified [very much so] RAF Intruder Scheme consisting of  Dark Green,
Medium Sea Grey and Underside Night.  An example of the colors at this link to Don Color: ------> RAF Intruder Scheme

While it would not be as subtle as you would hope it to be, it would certainly scream "Not American/Not USAF" :)
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #27 on: August 18, 2013, 06:02:21 AM »
I'd be quite happy with standard low viz type scheme with low viz roundels:



Or maybe something akin to the RAF C-17s:

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #28 on: August 18, 2013, 06:14:21 AM »
B-49 with a V bomber nose in RAF markings.

Damn!  I've been playing with something along those lines Bill, I've got a spare Vulcan nose left over from my Avro Atlantic build.  My idea was that Jack Northrop got very frustrated with having his design stalled over and over again, he sold the whole thing to Miles for the proverbial dollar when he visited Miles during a trip to the UK.  Miles then went with Metro-Vick engines, added the nose and also wing tip fins ----

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #29 on: August 18, 2013, 04:01:01 PM »
For a Luft 46' build.
Perhaps He-111 nose on a B-35.  Doable in 1/72.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #30 on: August 18, 2013, 04:25:37 PM »
For a Luft 46' build.
Perhaps He-111 nose on a B-35.  Doable in 1/72.


That would almost be a E.555:

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #31 on: August 18, 2013, 05:59:01 PM »
Yes - zactly what made me think of He-111/B-35.
While on this subject:
> E.555 with moderate engine upgrade to J85-GE-17A (used on AT-37) in each jet housing.
Revell says BMW 003A which has 1760 lbf while J85 has 2850 lbf.  Thatz 6540 lbf increase.  Modify housing(shorten rear) to indicate change.  Therez also J85-GE-21 of 3500 lbf dry.  Other choices are 1/72 B-47, B-52, B-66 jet housings (you pick how many).  Ending up with 50s 60s SAC or TAC version.  With B-57, B-66, B-58 or F-111 nose it could have transonic low supersonic speeds.
> Lot of possibilities with Northrop wings and E.555.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #32 on: August 18, 2013, 11:59:37 PM »
B-49 with a V bomber nose in RAF markings.


Damn!  I've been playing with something along those lines Bill, I've got a spare Vulcan nose left over from my Avro Atlantic build.  My idea was that Jack Northrop got very frustrated with having his design stalled over and over again, he sold the whole thing to Miles for the proverbial dollar when he visited Miles during a trip to the UK.  Miles then went with Metro-Vick engines, added the nose and also wing tip fins ----


Thinking along AW 52 lines are we?  ;D



Interesting scenario, however, I don't think it would be Miles as they didn't have the facilities,
or experience, to build an all-metal airframe on the scale of the B-49. They really were a
very small firm.
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #33 on: August 19, 2013, 01:20:05 AM »

Thinking along AW 52 lines are we?  ;D
Interesting scenario, however, I don't think it would be Miles as they didn't have the facilities,
or experience, to build an all-metal airframe on the scale of the B-49. They really were a
very small firm.

Yes, pretty much Jon -- Miles was into all sorts of stuff though.  I've got one of those AW.52's in the stash, I was surprised it was so big so I guess the story could be switch to AW instead.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #34 on: August 19, 2013, 02:26:52 AM »
I've got one of those AW.52's in the stash

What brand/scale?
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #35 on: August 19, 2013, 10:55:47 PM »
I've got one of those AW.52's in the stash

What brand/scale?

A&V Models, 1/72 scale Greg, quite a heavy chunk of resin too ---- clear vac' canopy and metal u/c IIRC, I haven't looked at if for a few years

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #36 on: September 08, 2013, 12:15:22 PM »
I think this would work very well on the 1:144th scale B-2:
   
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Paint the thing up and install that lighting kit to turn it into a "Cylon" raider :)
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #37 on: October 22, 2013, 06:59:36 AM »
ARC Forums - Scratch built 1:48th scale B-2 Steath Bomber WIP images
The guy still has a long way to go before it is finished but his WIP images show how he is putting it together and it is quite impressive.
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #38 on: October 22, 2013, 06:54:50 PM »
That is outstanding!  It also replicates somewhat a project I want to do one day, namely scratch build up a UCAV in much the same way as a real world aircraft is built with internal dram, systems and boxes as well as cable runs etc and the outer skin...
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #39 on: March 22, 2014, 02:26:08 PM »
Something not seen very much.  Found while surfing:


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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #40 on: March 22, 2014, 04:34:45 PM »
Something not seen very much.  Found while surfing:




IIRC that's an illustration from a recently published US 'Project Cancelled' type book, but I can't remember the exact title now, even though I have the book somewhere. The author himself did most of the illustrations too, super work.
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #41 on: March 23, 2014, 04:00:39 AM »
Cool pic
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #42 on: March 23, 2014, 04:15:49 AM »
That ably demonstrates that silver/grey would be better cammo for the Wing than the green-brown.  ;D

The pseudo-SEA cammo actually reveals the shape rather than disguising it. Too funny.  ;D


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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #43 on: March 23, 2014, 09:38:29 PM »
Most camouflages like SEAC work best at low altitude.  At higher altitude, then the problem of flying above clouds becomes an issue and thats when the greys and silvers become an advantage.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #44 on: March 23, 2014, 10:27:16 PM »
And it looks like it's an YRB-49A too, which would have operated at high altitude

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #45 on: March 25, 2014, 12:53:01 AM »
Most camouflages like SEAC work best at low altitude.  At higher altitude, then the problem of flying above clouds becomes an issue and thats when the greys and silvers become an advantage.

Low-level, high-level is irrelevant where the Northrop wing is concerned, even at low altitude
the edges of the shape would still be very evident with a multi-colour cammo. A single colour
would be far more effective in losing the 'shape'. What works for a B-52 wouldn't work for
a B-49. The old notion of 'paint it to look like the terrain' was disproved a long time ago when
it comes to large aircraft, particularly fast moving large aircraft.

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #46 on: March 25, 2014, 07:57:20 AM »
All that may well be true, but it looks GREAT.  :) ;) ;D
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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #47 on: March 25, 2014, 08:18:26 AM »
All that may well be true, but it looks GREAT.  :) ;) ;D

It sure does :)

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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #48 on: June 16, 2014, 12:41:00 AM »




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Re: Northrop's Flying Wings
« Reply #49 on: June 16, 2014, 12:56:26 AM »
Apparently, there's a couple of B-2's in the UK right now, with one being flown there by an exchange Brit pilot (an ex-Tornado flyer)