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ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« on: January 27, 2014, 02:12:05 AM »
Merging Bismarck and Wisconsin. I particularly love germanized turrets  :)

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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2014, 05:14:04 PM »
Dunno how you do it, each one is "right".
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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2014, 07:46:30 AM »
Thank you!

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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2014, 09:17:59 PM »
This is, more or less, my idea about a post WWII Battleship, equipped with guns and missiles. Perhaps with nuclear capability.


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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2014, 02:44:25 AM »
 :)
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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2014, 07:57:53 AM »
Really really cool stuff!! Hope to see more!
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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #6 on: January 29, 2014, 11:18:20 AM »
Yes, cool stuff  8)
What would those 18 circle things on each side of superstructure be ?
Vertical launch for ?

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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2014, 12:34:38 PM »
^^^^
I do not know. It is in Moskva's drawing. Deep charges, maybe ???
My drawing is mainly based on Scharnhost and Moskva, at same scale.
« Last Edit: January 29, 2014, 09:33:21 PM by ysi_maniac »

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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2014, 09:35:52 AM »
Properly, the Bismarck should be merged with the North Dakota class, not Wisconsin. ;D

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Re: ysimaniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #9 on: February 04, 2014, 04:06:27 AM »
Two studies about alternative WWI, based on evolved Iron Duke.


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #10 on: February 04, 2014, 04:09:24 AM »
Upgunned Hood


Based upon an original image by Thomas Schmid

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2014, 02:12:00 PM »
Toying with Hood and Nelson


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 04:37:25 AM »
Studies for WWI GB


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2014, 04:40:45 AM »
Hipper class was bigger and heavier than Graf Spee class...
Why not 11inch guns? >:(
Why not like Scharnhorst? 8)


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 05:03:37 AM »
What if HMS Belfast were a Battlecruiser?



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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2014, 05:41:29 AM »
Hipper class was bigger and heavier than Graf Spee class...
Why not 11inch guns? >:(

Hell yeah.  :)
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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2014, 12:52:52 PM »
USS North Scharnhorst :) compared with USS North Carolina

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2014, 08:11:06 PM »
Or an 8" heavy cruiser with four twin turrets or two twins and two triples or even three triples.  Multiple 4.5" UD DP mounts in place of 4" is a must.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2014, 01:58:40 AM »
^^^^^^
Which are you speaking about?

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2014, 07:54:02 AM »
Belfast

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #20 on: January 25, 2015, 03:40:47 PM »
Some more inspiration for the new Floaty GB

HMS Repulse with new bow


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #21 on: January 25, 2015, 03:43:18 PM »
Moskva + Long Beach


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #22 on: January 25, 2015, 04:31:15 PM »
Moskva + Long Beach     Heck of a combo :)

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #23 on: January 26, 2015, 11:59:26 AM »
Moskva + Long Beach     Heck of a combo :)

I agree  :)

But the field of fire for amidship SAM launchers......  :-\
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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #24 on: February 02, 2015, 04:19:45 AM »
Land Sovremenny


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #25 on: February 03, 2015, 02:16:34 AM »
I love it! :)
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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #26 on: February 03, 2015, 05:49:06 AM »
Land Nagato


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2015, 01:49:07 AM »
dear ysi_maniac, usually I don't visit naval topics (I like only aircraft) but the current Floaty GB made me come here and see. And what a great surprise! :-* Your mix of ship and tank(s) made me dream of a similar Lightning flying boat! Thanks a lot! And congratulations again for this idea of yours! ;)

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2015, 02:41:36 AM »
^^^^^
anxious to see your ideas. ::) ???

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2015, 01:37:43 PM »
Fortunately, I found in my collection a P-38 already with caterpillar landing gear, so it has been easy to draw the one with a flying boat hull you made me dream of. Thanks again!

Do you think tandem wings would improve the weight centering?
And how many thousands would have been ordered by the US Marines in 1943? ;)

EDIT: I continue on my Floaty topic http://beyondthesprues.com/Forum/index.php?topic=5139.0
Here is special for your own wonderful creations. Thanks again!
« Last Edit: February 05, 2015, 01:56:14 AM by Tophe »

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2015, 06:18:24 AM »
 :) :) :) :) ;)

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2015, 06:46:36 AM »
Land Sovremenny




it recalls me this one (who is the author again?) : I have a plan of trying to make something like it, sometimes ...
and please note the floaty things on top of it ...




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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2015, 11:11:03 AM »
That's clearly Stan Mott's work; I'd recognize it anywhere.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2015, 11:52:54 AM »
What a wonder! :-*

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #34 on: April 26, 2016, 02:26:56 PM »
What if HMS Warspite were updated to continue working for years, and years, and ...


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #35 on: April 30, 2016, 03:51:54 PM »
What if HMS Royal Sovereign was never returned from Soviet Union but upgraded there.



New bits come from Sverdlov cruiser.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #36 on: May 04, 2016, 05:18:14 PM »
Moskva + Long Beach     Heck of a combo :)

I agree  :)

But the field of fire for amidship SAM launchers......  :-\

They can turn sideways. :D

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #37 on: May 04, 2016, 05:22:48 PM »
What if USS Arizona with USS New Mexico's clipper bow?


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #38 on: May 21, 2016, 04:41:09 AM »
What if HMS Vanguard had the RIGHT turrets (in the HMS Lion way)?


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #39 on: May 21, 2016, 04:54:26 AM »
Some years ago I got a junk Trumpeter 1/350 Sovremenny soviet destroyer. She had not hull, but the other parts look very nice: superstructure, turrets, missiles ... So I am thinking in buying one of those old Frog/Novo/... 1/415 HMS Tiger to combine pieces. I like result of my study. And you?



Later I would consider a more 'soviet' bow.


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #40 on: May 22, 2016, 01:53:38 AM »
Idem with Revell USS Long Beach's hull


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #41 on: May 27, 2016, 04:46:04 AM »
Up gunned County class


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #42 on: May 27, 2016, 05:05:13 AM »
That is very pretty.

Cheers,

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #43 on: May 27, 2016, 12:03:34 PM »
A few days ago I read something about a 180 mm soviet naval gun project. Does any of know anything?

In Sovremenny and Kirov.



In a shortened KIrov


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #44 on: May 27, 2016, 09:14:56 PM »
Agreed the up gunned County looks very nice.

Been thinking what may look ok and be a bit of a play on actual events, would be a British cruiser front with a pair of Mk26 6", Tiger superstructure, topped off by a Type 984 radar and a Long Beach aft and mid section, including Talos, the nuclear propulsion system and provision for Polaris.  Same concept that saw Dreadnought being built with basically a Skipjack rear and the R class with their US missile sections. 

These ships could have started out planned as the UKs nuclear deterrent instead of the Polaris submarines and evolved into flag and fleet air defence ships with the Polaris spaces used for Tartar.  thinking of doing something along this line with a Revell Tiger, Shapeways  backdate conversion and a Dragon Long Beach

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #45 on: May 28, 2016, 03:28:06 AM »
A few days ago I read something about a 180 mm soviet naval gun project. Does any of know anything?



What era?  Possible naval version of S-23?
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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #46 on: January 23, 2018, 06:49:12 PM »
What if HMS Iron Duke received same treatement as Ise/Hyuga?


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #47 on: February 21, 2018, 03:29:23 AM »
Icebreaker Warspite and Arkhangelsk



Armed Arktika class

« Last Edit: February 21, 2018, 03:31:29 AM by ysi_maniac »

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #48 on: February 21, 2018, 01:59:43 PM »
:smiley:

GReat work, as always!

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #49 on: March 02, 2018, 08:57:53 AM »
^^^^ Thanks!

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #50 on: March 02, 2018, 08:59:16 AM »
A RW project: Scharnhorst/Gneisenau with 15 inch guns. Original and upgunned.


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« Reply #51 on: March 03, 2018, 01:42:33 AM »
 :smiley:

What about a post war version updated with helicopter deck and missiles?
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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #52 on: March 03, 2018, 04:59:21 PM »
Always thought the Yamato would suit an American style weapons upgrade given that it already had a hanger deck at the rear.  Would make a great whif.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2018, 03:40:48 AM »
With this drawing I try to figure out how to trasform a Pola class cruiser into a design of an italian compact battleship that appears in page 237 of 'The Complete Encyclopedia of Battleships and Battlecruisers' by Tony Gibbons.
https://www.amazon.es/Complete-Encyclopedia-Battleships-Technical-Directory/dp/B000N385OW/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1520365194&sr=8-2-fkmr0&keywords=encycopedia+battleships+gibbons

Displacement: 27,000 tons
Length: 190 m
Main armament: 6 x 15in


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #54 on: March 11, 2018, 09:13:52 PM »
I found first profile in the internet marked as HMS Barham. I think that its bow is fictional. Am I right? Anyway I like mentioned bow and grafted it in HMS Warspite and HMS Royal Sovereign.

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« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2018, 01:08:50 AM »
US FlyingBattleship 1st iteration

USS Massachusetts 1/720 + P-38 1/72

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« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2018, 05:37:17 PM »
oh la la !   :smiley: :smiley: :smiley:

I once tried something alike (in 3D) with a B-24 and an aircraft carrier (but imgur seems to refuse my attempts at loading an image ...)




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« Reply #57 on: March 22, 2018, 11:16:21 AM »
US FlyingBattleship 2nd iteration. The definitive WEAPON

USS Massachusetts 1/720 + P-38 1/72 + M10 1/72 (tracked modules must be considered as bogies)


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« Reply #58 on: March 23, 2018, 05:56:16 AM »

absolutely grand

and the twin-boom P-38 should appeal strongly to Tophe


might make use of an air escort




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« Reply #59 on: March 25, 2018, 04:13:54 AM »
Love your concept

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« Reply #60 on: March 25, 2018, 06:50:13 AM »

thanks, I was inspired by this :




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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #61 on: March 25, 2018, 05:49:11 PM »
Must try to build that some day
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« Reply #62 on: March 25, 2018, 08:54:39 PM »
Must try to build that some day

I have  a 1/400 Gharles De Gaulle in my stash ... and quite a few seaplanes ...

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« Reply #63 on: March 25, 2018, 09:57:59 PM »

thanks, I was inspired by this :



You have to love Stan Mott's work.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #64 on: May 13, 2018, 12:11:31 AM »
Reaching the limits of submarine.

Submarine Battleship. in a certain way it could be like a 'BIG' Surcouf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_submarine_Surcouf

Submarine Aircraft Carrier.


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #65 on: May 13, 2018, 12:12:33 AM »
First approach to Submarine Aircraft Carrier and Battleship. These are based on 2 bottom KGV hulls (remain of waterline cutting) glued together.




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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #66 on: May 29, 2018, 04:29:38 AM »
Two approaches to super Graf Spee


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #67 on: June 17, 2018, 06:30:54 PM »
Alternative main artillery for Bismarck.

Insert: What I considered turrets could look with all big guns german designers considered during WWII, they also considered 2 gun turrets only.

In this line, I envisaged posibilities to intall them on a Bismarck hull. 15 inch is included for comparison purposes.


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #68 on: March 04, 2020, 01:05:23 PM »
What if HMS Hood à la Richelieu (top), alternatively a more british option with bits taken from KGV


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« Reply #69 on: March 04, 2020, 02:14:27 PM »
Interesting profiles.   What would be two medium looking turrets to stern of à la Richelieu style ?

Suggestion:  How about a 80s-ish modernization like on Iowa class ?
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« Reply #70 on: March 04, 2020, 08:34:25 PM »
Nice work!

Been planning a build like that for several years, a Nelson with to quad 14" from a KGV forward and either 6" or 4.5" secondaries.  Superstructure would be moved forward to provide space for significantly enlarged machinery, rear facing hangar and stern mounted catapult.  The idea is a mid 30s battlecruiser to counter the Deutschlands.

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #71 on: April 19, 2020, 01:35:02 PM »
What if a HMS Belfast equipped with 2x2 14 inch torrets (KGV's narrow turret). A kind of British pocket/compact Battleship


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« Reply #72 on: April 19, 2020, 01:44:26 PM »
Two alternatives to install 2 quadruple 14 inch turrets (from kgv class) in HMS Hood. Old secubdary artillery is deleted and main turrets of HMS Belfast are intalled instead.


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« Reply #73 on: July 04, 2022, 03:35:04 AM »
In these ideas I am mating Airfix 1/600 Moskva and Heller 1/400 Lenin. So a kind of scaleorama.

As what I like the most in Moskva is funnel, resulting projects must be powered by conventional means.

1. Civil icebreaker powered by steam turbine
2. Militar icebreaker equipped with anti-aircraf weapons
3. Militar icebreaker equipped with anti-aircraf and anti-submarine weapons

There are probably errors in armament ... never mind! My aim is aesthetics and coolness  :thumbsup:


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #74 on: July 05, 2022, 09:53:27 PM »
Sovietized Victorious



Perhaps you can help me: Would it have any meaning, such weird conbination of radars, antenae, sensors, etc...?

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« Reply #75 on: July 05, 2022, 10:22:58 PM »
What if a Scharnhorst equipped with a pair of "germanized" version of british 4x14in turret (from KGV)?

A kind of german Strasbourg. :smiley:


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #76 on: July 15, 2022, 01:13:09 AM »
Sovietized Victorious



Perhaps you can help me: Would it have any meaning, such weird conbination of radars, antenae, sensors, etc...?

The British/Soviet combo is a VERY common thing with the Indian Navy. Maybe they buy the Victorious after the British have just upgraded, then decommissioned it. Then a later refit can add the Moskva style island.

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« Reply #77 on: July 15, 2022, 03:07:13 AM »
^^^^
 :smiley: Good alternative history.

Thanks

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #78 on: July 15, 2022, 03:07:53 AM »
Kind of soviet Scharnhorst. Continuing obssesion with 14in quad turrets.

This study is for a project that includes 3 models in diferent scales

1. Revell 1/570 Scharnhorst
2. Airfix 1/600 Moskva
3. Zhengdefu 30 cm Sovremenny. Resulting scale is 1/520

All four drawings have the same armament approx: 2 quadruple tuurets and a newly designed turret equipped with 3 SSN missiles. You see here possible conbinations accoding 2 indepent issues: superstructure coming from Sovremenny / Moskva and chase / balanced  config. Chase config means gun turrets on A and B location and missiles turret in Z position and  balanced config is gun turrets on A and Z positions and missiles in B location,



What do you prefer?

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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #79 on: July 19, 2022, 12:33:32 PM »
Clemenceau/Foch with superstructure from fregate Suffren (I love that bulb :wub:)

First is scaloramed to equal length. Suitable to be built with the models Hellet produced under label "Cadet'

Second in constant scale


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #80 on: July 21, 2022, 02:29:14 PM »
Sovietized Victorious



Just to give you an idea :thumbsup:


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Re: ysi_maniac's Naval drawings
« Reply #81 on: July 22, 2022, 10:53:01 PM »
Two ways of soviet HMS Tiger/Blake